a fine of $579 imposed on me for just one order by essaywriters.net

hello everyone,
I am a senior writer at essaywriters.net

I just need to inform my fellow writers that i was working on an order for essaywriters.net...the customer was too demanding and unfair.

After revising the paper for about 10 times according to his needs, he got what he wanted.

somehow, he did not want to pay for the order as it was a huge amount so, he canceled it.

Now, essaywriters.net has imposed a fine of $579 on me which is complete fraud and cheating against the writers.

I hope someone from essaywriters.net reads this thread. please remove the fine.

No offense intended, but even though this post is much better than is seen by certain other ew.net writers, you have no business writing professionally in the English language to begin with. Yes, the fine the company is imposing is unfair and incredibly shady, but you should have known the company was shady when they hired you in the first place.

can you please be a bit more clear regarding the message you want to convey here?

I thought I was pretty clear, but here goes:

Your level of fluency with English is obviously good enough to allow you to communicate with native speakers, but it is NOT good enough for you to be writing academic papers at the college level, especially for other people who pay you money to do so.

The fact that essaywriters.net hires writers like you--that is, writers who aren't good enough to do the job--is evidence that they are a bad company that does bad things. Therefore, you should have guessed that they would do bad things to you (like fine you almost $600).

I'm not saying that what the company is doing is right, in fact I think it is evil and greedy. But maybe you should take it as a wake-up call and get out of this business, because no legitimate company will hire you.

better mind your own business

it is so silly on your part to comment on someone else without even knowing him

keep your judgment to yourself, you moron

i have already written hundreds of papers and have mostly received extremely positive feedbacks

but it is useless to even speak to idiots like you

i have already made thousands of dollars working with many freelance essay writing sites, so, do you mean to say all of the companies are bad?

It does not even look that you are capable enough to point out or judge others fluency in English.

Firstly, have a look at your grammar and your fluency. Just to point out-
when you said "they are a bad company that does bad things", it perfectly reflects your command over the language.

I do not claim to be a genius but obviously better than stupid people like you professionally and personally.

It became his business when you chose to post your message in an open forum.

You can't take his truthful comments personally. Sure, I am an excellent writer in the English language, but could I write a professional paper in German? Hell no! Would I take offense if a German guy were to tell me that my writing skills in the German language are not nearly good enough to justify me taking German customers' money to write "professional papers in the German language"? No, and deep down inside my gut, I'd know that he's right.


Einstein was a genius. Could/would he write a professional, grammatically sound, culturally relevant, PhD-level paper on a literature, health, history, anthropology, etc. topic and pass it off-or worse yet, try to sell it under false pretenses-as the work of a "professional, native English-speaker"? No.


FYI, native English-speakers do not pluralize "feedback." This is one of the most common mistakes that I see in the work of ESL writers in this industry.


You must place the comma inside of the quotation mark.

no bad errors-- articles are correct-- a few minor preposition misuses-- I don't see why the scathing accusations. for a living, I used to grade international evaluations for companies with multinational employee bases. of course, I can't hear this person's accent, but as a written presentation, it gets a penultimate score. I swear to god, some of you see a faint tint of ESL, and it's like you get rabies.

anyway, essaywriters.net will do this to even their most articulate, successful writers. their ultimate MO is to completely **** their employees, and unfortunately, there is nothing you can do about it, but quit. and, of course, advocate alliances with their local mafia rivals. of course, we are all still waiting for the spy photos and street addresses.

anyway, yoge, good luck-- maybe you can reason with them. but this sounds like exactly what they did to me at EW-- kept me on for a few years as a big deal "Premium" writer, and then completely **** my account with outrageous 200% fines.

they don't understand that it's not about ******* their writers; it's about ******* their customers. this is why EW will never be anything but a mockery of a professional capitalist organization; it is constantly handicapping itself for short-term gains and relying too much on the discretion and loyalty of a customer base that is dumber than they are (which is to say, dumber than rocks).

Knowledge is beyond boundaries.

Let me tell you that we, educated Indians and Pakistanis are more grammatically correct than you, so called native English speakers

So, it would be better if you keep your mouth shut and mind your own business, Mr. WritersBeware.

The purpose of starting this thread was just to inform the fellow writers to be more careful with essaywriters.net and not to prove my credibility.

Even deep down inside, I am confident enough to produce quality papers at least in my subject area.

I do not intend to start an argument with morons like you who are so obsessed with themselves that they fail to recognize and respect others potential.

Pheelyks did state that yogeshmittal's writing skills are well above average in the ranks of essaywriters.net, and I certainly concur. However, should yogeshmittal market himself as a "professional, native English-speaking writer"? No.

I think that pheelyks' main point is that when you accept employment from a verifiably fraudulent and illegal company, don't be surprised when you become a victim.


In no way did I attack you. You're a joke.


:)

You don't even have the ability to recognize the errors in your own posts, and I won't do you the favor of highlighting them.

WritersBeware
who the hell is asking you to do it?

Here is where I would need your advice. Is there any specific way to tackle with this penalty problem at essaywriters.net?

They have started canceling my completed orders and imposing huge fines on me.

After all, they owed me $2000 before the penalty was imposed.

Nobody has to "ask" me to do what's right or to highlight the key problems in the industry.


google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22essaywriters.net%22+scam

Thank you for the all comprehensive link but the question still remains unanswered.

The answer to your question is available in multiple threads throughout this forum.

Start by reading the new article by CNN:

amfix.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/04/cheating-on-papers-is-a-booming-web-business /

Interesting comment from a reader:
The issue is not outsourcing. The issue is the proliferation of essay writing websites with false US addresses being run in Ukraine by a person who allegedly was deported by the government for criminal violations and is now accepting your credit card details when you order your essay.

like I said, yoge, good luck. you work for them, so you already know how random and impossible it is to communicate with administration. sometimes, it is like talking to a brick wall. if it is any assurance, EW never robbed me of any money that was not included in their ridiculous fines.

I am from an advanced capitalist nation, and am unfamiliar with EW's primitive market capitalism. from my experience, arguing them out of a fine was near impossible if a customer cancelled the order. for me,it was easier to avoid the headache of this happening in the future, and cut my losses.

as for you other jackals attacking this newbie, pls. stop this insane drama. I will not be associated with total ******* with rabies who attack newbies.

good luck, yoge!

Are you referring to me?

That was purposefully simplistic because you didn't understand my post the first time. Although I think we've moved on at this point...


I hadn't intended my accusation to be "scathing." As I said in both of my original posts, his English is much better than most ESL posters here. But it is still noticeably ESL--his sentence construction is simplistic and his word choice is just a little off. I was trying to make a general point about the company, who obviously doesn't test their writers thoroughly.

Hi Yoge,

I don't know if this will help.

The other day, purely by accident, I discovered EW's office here in the Philippines. I am not sure if they own it or if they are just outsourcing their customer service or writer service work here. At any rate, I'll try to find out what I can and see if we can make them pay.

They've screwed me over too; but I never got $600 in penalties. They ripped you off, buddy! I'm glad I no longer work for them.

Boom

OK, you guys want the scoop on EssayWriters.net's (Universal Research) outsourcing to the Philippines in the guise of "Uniwork Inc"?



[Mod, can you please blow-up the pic?]

WritersBeware posted: "OK, you guys want the scoop on EssayWriters.net's (Universal Research) outsourcing to the Philippines in the guise of "Uniwork Inc"?"

Hey WB!

Yes! That's the company. I was in Pacific Star Building the other day and overheard two people in the Starbucks coffee shop, located in the building itself, talking about the complaints they got while answering calls for EW. I started a conversation with them, pretending that I was looking for a job, and they pointed me to Uniwork.

Hmmm... I'm thinking it's payback time!

Boom

Very interesting. Perhaps, you can become our proverbial "fly on the wall" and post whatever information that you discover?


I'm sure that hundreds-if not thousands-of other writers share your sentiments.

Now I get why you wanted out. :p You know, I also felt like this over a year ago when EW took over $200 from my pay. The excuse that they gave was that the system made an error and one of the orders I took was not priced correctly. I was furious and I also did consider quitting. I mean, even if what they claimed was the truth, it's still their system's fault and they still should pay up because I took the order under false pretenses. I took another look at the order in question (a 20-page editing job priced at $20/page) and went to the site where they supposedly get their clients. I saw that the price that they gave me for the order was almost equal to what they would have charged the client had the client used the site that I went to (bestessays). After a whole lot of thinking, I finally decided to let it pass and just charge the mishap to experience.

Looking back at it now, I still think that ew was wrong and that they should have taken the hit from their own mistake. However, I don't think what they did was fraudulent, just very, very selfish and unprofessional. With how much I'm earning from them, I simply reasoned (both logically and mathematically) that that one incident was not enough for me to stop. But hey, I'm not trying to convince you to go back nor am I trying to convince you not to "pay back" the company in your home country. Please do by all means. ^_^ Maybe the lesson would teach them to start treating their writers as well as the American companies supposedly treat theirs. :)

On the issue of yogeshmittal's writing and penalty, I agree with rusty that there was no cause to berate the newbie for his writing skills. However I do believe that yoge should give us more details about the order that cost him $579 before anyone can judge whether or not he was "scammed' by essaywriters. I think ew makes it a point to check the credit card details of anyone who orders from them and even puts orders on hold when the details become suspicious so it seems shady to me that they would let a $579 order slip away.

if you hit them in the Philippines they will just reappear elsewhere.

you have to get to their home mafia territory, where they live. this is also where their rivals live. no offense but I'm not sure taking out a raft of their admin staff and various managerial ********** in the Philippines will do anything but be entertaining short-term.

this is why we need to organize and get like a team going, we need forklift drivers and hackers, we need to get people on the ground, and we need to infiltrate their local mafia rivals. this is just the first step. let's get it together and get on to it.

Molotov cocktails, hand grenades, chainsaws, and tattoos (we've gotta get tattoos). I can see the film version of our heroics now...something like a cross between Good Will Hunting and Rambo. "The E Team," maybe, or "Mission Unpassable."

Okay... Here's what I've got...

Apparently, their operations over here are bigger than I had expected. Uniwork does more that service writing sites and writers. They employ nearly 300 Filipinos as call center agents or for other BPO functions. Uniwork only allocates 30 to 40 agents to service their "paper mills". They have other "legitimate" clients and they operate from 2 offices (as far as I know). In fact, they actually occupy an entire floor in Burgundy Building.

Even if I prove that their "paper mill" activities are illegal (which will take some doing), the local government unit won't lift a finger to stop them. Why? Because they are providing jobs for Filipinos. Yuri's crimes mean nothing here. For as long as he gives jobs and (possibly) bribes government officials, then we can't touch him. He has found a "safe haven" in my country. Damn it!

I'll keep digging; but I'm not too optimistic. I mean, even if I could shut them down, I'd feel guilty about causing 300 of my countrymen to lose their jobs. I don't think I could stomach that. I know what it's like having to eat only one meal a day; and if these people lose their jobs, I could be condemning them to this ordeal again... or worse.

I hate to say it; but it looks bleak on my end.

Hi EW_writer,

My gripe with EW isn't about fines. Actually, I've never been fined. It's really my guilt that has driven me to leave them. I really don't like the way they do their business. I don't like the way they "casually" lie to everyone. Add this to the numerous times they have delayed my payments, and it was simply inevitable.

One time, I had to bring my son to the hospital because he was hit by a van while crossing the street. It was a hit and run. I asked EW for my money during a regularly scheduled pay-out period. They had already delayed my previous pay at that time, so I was expecting them to pay me a sizable amount this particular pay-out period. They paid me nothing! I practically begged them to pay me for my son's sake, but they gave all kinds of excuses.

They really didn't care whether my son would live or die. I mean, it would've been understandable if I was asking for an advance; but no. I was simply asking what was due! It is this attitude that tells me that Yuri is a callous-hearted individual who will have no regrets committing a crime (maybe even murder) to get his way. I cannot, in conscience, work a person like him.

I hope this explains things.

All the best!

Boom

I am very sorry to read that. It's simply appalling. There are no words to adequately describe my contempt, but I'm sure that EW_writer will come up with some slimy way to defend essaywriters.net (perhaps by claiming, as he has in the past, that you actually deserved that treatment, for one reason or another). After all, EW_writer has stated on numerous occasions that essaywriters.net only mistreats and defrauds plagiarizers and unqualified writers. I don't believe that you fall into either category. Do you?

Hi WB,

I don't know if I am a qualified ESL writer; but I'd like to think I am. If I'm not, I hope someone will tell me so that I don't waste my clients' time and money anymore. However, I'm 100% sure that I do not plagiarize! Even EW would admit as much.

But... If anybody calls me a "dmb-as", I'll... uhh... I may have to think about that. ;)

Boom

Can you tell us what crimes you are referring to exactly?


Is it the same guilt that's making you think that a union for us homework writers would be a good idea? I'm sorry if this seems to be an attack but hey, hypocrisy is a pet peeve of mine. XD This reaction is directed entirely at your two posts and not at you (or your other posts for that matter).


Hmm... but did they pay you all that you were owed eventually? I agree that ew doesn't care. However, I fail to see how this situation makes them fraudulent or any different from the cold-hearted but legitimate capitalists in the first world. You can call them unprofessional, cruel, and unfair based on your story (I actually agree that they are all these things), but I don't think you can say that they scammed you out of your hard earned cash, can you?


That's a lie. I did however claim that the people who come here crying over getting booted/fined by ew usually deserved it.


Oh go suck on an egg. If a similar story was told by someone who didn't agree with you, you'd simply ask for proof and call the person a liar when he doesn't post the authenticated medical records.

Hey, boom, see what I mean?


Given your employer's track record of ongoing fraud and illegal activity, boom deserves the benefit of the doubt. Plus, I wouldn't expect anyone to post medical records. Are you calling her a liar?

back to the order of business! someone find the newbie WB scared away.


I totally agree! what an abysmal attitude EW has to its own staff-- treated like slaves working on their pyramid, and shaken down regularly.

EW-writer admits they shook him down; they shook me down twice at least; here they are again... the pattern may differ with individual methods, but the end result is basically outright theft.

well, as everyone always says, who looks for virtue in this industry anyway. who can change an early market capitalist mill baron into an investment-garde, employee centric motivational manager?

my favorite was when EW went "under new management--" everyone knows by now how hated and reviled Yuri is. it's just a matter of time before someone breaks on through to the other side.

Hi EW_writer,

I didn't say "scammed". I said "screwed". There is a difference. And you have to admit that they did "screw me over". If someone screws you over, is that considered "rape"? LOL!

Boom

Nope, I'm calling you one, egg-sucker.


Hey so let me get this straight. Were you paid every dollar that you were owed? So by "screwed" what precisely are you complaining about?

Calm down Uber genius, the man has a point to make, you may receive a backhanded bit of wisdom from his post.
Truthfully, it is possible that you have a narrow grouping of clients to work with that absolutely praise your body of work.
Best Wishes.

Hey so let me get this straight. Were you paid every dollar that you were owed? So by "screwed" what precisely are you complaining about?

Hi EW_writer,

Why so serious? Have the years of doing battle in this forum affected you? Lighten up a bit.

By "screwed", I was referring to my story. My gripe is both personal and moral; and since my values differ from yours, I don't think there is any point in "butting heads" over this. Besides, butting heads hurts. Ow!

And.. yes, they still owe me. I'm not holding my breath, dear.

LOL! What's your justification for making such a claim (besides personal, monetary gain), over and over again? Any proof?


You're a clueless troublemaker. I'm the one who helped boom, and she has openly stated such. The one who is attacking her is your buddy, EW_writer.

ROFLMAO! How many times have you criticized the writing abilities of those who came here claiming to have been fired/fined by essaywriters.net? :p You're actually all the proof I need.


Like I said, I'm sorry if my reaction towards your hypocrisy offended you in any way. I really do not have any interest in exchanging subtle insults with you (really) and hope that you can understand that I just had to say what I had to say. ^_^


Darn.. there goes your hypocrisy again. >.< But hey, I'm fine with it now. Still, are the values that you are talking about the same ones that made you say that perhaps us homework writers should think about establishing a union? ^_^


That's the thing. Based on what you've revealed so far, it seems that the worst things that ew's done to you were delay your payments and not believe your story about your child. Honestly, is this it? You say they still owe you money. Do you mean payments that have yet to be paid but are scheduled for payment?

To my knowledge, once, and that was only a few days ago because the guy is a completely dimwit. The fact that EssayWriters.net hired him in the first place is the real issue.

LOL! You must have a very poor memory then. :D Why don't you share with us what you think about yogeshmittal's English writing skills again? :) Here's a sample from your previous posts.


Who's yogeshmittal? :P Haha.. the thread starter that rusty said you scared away. Where in this forum did you criticize his English writing skills after he complained about getting fined by ew? On the first page of this very thread! :D

Um, what's your point, exactly? That I fairly critique people, regardless if they are employed by EssayWriters.net? You're right, I do. Good job.

Wow.. you really are thick when it comes to logical argumentation. >.<

I said:

I did however claim that the people who come here crying over getting booted/fined by ew usually deserved it.

Then you asked:


To which I responded:


and then you tried to rebut by stating that:


Does everything make sense now, or do I have to explain how I humiliated you all over again? :)