a fine of $579 imposed on me for just one order by essaywriters.net

Ah, now I get what you are trying to prove. (It's difficult for me to relate to your deceptive mindset.) I fairly and lightly critique one person who came here to complain about EssayWriters.net, and you think that that proves your baseless claim that "the [dozens] of people who [have] come here crying over getting booted/fined by ew usually deserved it." Um, no.

Not at all. I'm saying that it's silly for you to try to counter my argument when your actions actually show that you agree with me. And hey let's not lose count (why do you keep forgetting things?), within the past week you criticized all the writers who have come to this message board compalining about getting fined/fired by ew. This is contrary to your feeble rebuttal that you remember doing so only once in your lifetime. :p I'm sure that if I put some more effort in to find the threads of other posters in previous months who have come here compalining about getting fined/fired by ew I'd see you right there criticizing them but hey, why bother? The incidents with yoge and that other guy prove just about the same thing.

So, are you claiming that I've bashed EW victims more than supported them? Are you also claiming that the number of wrongfully abused, QUALIFIED writers is insignificant?


Again, you fail to see the bigger picture here. Regarding the UNQUALIFIED writers who come here to complain about abuse at the hands of EssayWriters.net, Yuri has absolutely no business* hiring them in the first place! Get it?

* Well, his business is actually predicated on such hiring practices.

Darn, you're thick. It's not about whether or not you've "bashed EW victims more than supported them" but that by bashing many of those who come here claiming "I are got fined" or "I is fired, ew is a scamming," you're proving my point that in general, those who come here complaining about getting booted/fined by ew deserved it.

I gotta go now so I won't be able to 'splain this to you again. Here's wishing your ol' noggin' the the best. ^_^

You're hilarious.

Hmmm, I wonder why you intentionally ignored the other part of my post.

Because it's irrelevant to my argument that people who come here complaining about getting fired/excessively fined by ew usually deserve it... duh.. :D

To EW_writer,

Dear, thank you for your inputs. I really appreciate them. Your wisdom is truly amazing. ^_^ (I'm sorry. I forgot that that "symbolic smile" was patented to you... Ha-ha-ha)

As far as payment goes, dear... I was talking about money I will never get from EW. They sent me a message stating that they will no longer be giving me my pay because I terminated my account with them. I told you that I wasn't holding my breath (It's quite difficult holding your breath when you have asthma).

Thank you so much for your words of wisdom. I will always cherish them. ^_^ (Oops! Did it again!)

Boom

Oh, boom, come on . . . you know that you deserved it. Stop fooling yourself. Essay Writers would never steal money from a qualified writer, especially not one with an ill child.

Tell her like it is, EW_writer! Set her straight!


LOL! It's "irrelevant" that-as a calculated part of its business plan-essaywriters.net knowingly hires unqualified writers who eventually come here to complain, and then you justify how essaywriters.net steals money from them because they "deserve" it? Nice try.


Fines sure do help to increase that profit margin, don't they?

So does not paying.

But alas, WB... I'm afraid I deserve it... Sigh! ;)

Well, that'll learn ya!

Hey! I'm learning to use this "quote" thing! Cool! ;)

I see. I actually wasn't aware that writers who terminate their accounts don't get paid anymore. Thanks for the tip though. >.< Were you aware of it at the time that you terminated yours? Hey rusty, did you terminate your account when you quit ew? Were you left unpaid any amount aside from the fines that you received?


Dude again, I don't mean to offend you in my replies. I have virtually no contempt for any other poster here aside from WB. So what do you intend to do now? Quit writing homework for students entirely or attempt to get yourself hired by *********? Hey, please do. If you get in, tell me how you did it so that I can give it a shot as well, if only to find out if the grass truly is greener on the other side (something I'm beginning to doubt based on the posts of those claiming to be American writers on this message board). ^_^

Bring in the cleanup crew!


Thank you.

So, what's your answer, EW_liar?

Doesn't this imply that I would gladly try out ********* if I was offered to do so? :P You must be sucking your egg the wrong way again or something. :)

What does that even mean? What does the termination of a writer's account have to do with any company's paying the writer his/her dues? To withhold pay is a direct violation of the most basic employment/service provider contract in the UK and all across the EU. I am pretty certain that it is not legal in the US either. Considering, however, that writers simply put up with this sort of treatment, I really cannot blame EW or any other company for taking this route. Why shouldn't they deny writers their due when they are never called to account and have never had to pay the piper? Boom, I am sorry but I really do believe that you and other writers are to blame. Some of you are horrendously passive about all of this. Take a look at Rusty or E-W ... they repeatedly stated that they stood up for their rights whenever they were violated and, by doing so, rectified the situation.

Correct.


OR, I'm sure you know that it's strictly a numbers game for EW. How many out of every 10 of EW's ever-revolving supply of offshore, ESL writers do you think have the time, legal knowledge, resources, and wherewithal to "stand up"?

WB - what I really do not understand is why the writers put up with it? Some of them are ideal victims and their continued passivity keeps Yuri and Alexey very very rich, indeed.

What are they supposed to do after being given the boot-or threatened with even more fines-after complaining? Remember, there is a huge supply of unqualified writers. For every 1 who complains, there are probably 100 others ready to unwittingly take his/her seat in the "victim's chair." If you are EW, why would you want to fill your ranks with US citizens who have the resources and knowledge to take appropriate legal action in the US?

UK law treats neither unpaid wages nor salary deductions lightly. An employer (including part time), can only deduct wages with the statutory power or agreement of the service contractor/employee or part timer.

Should an employer act unilaterally and deduct wages/refuse to pay wages without the consent of the employee, the employee may 1) take the employer to the small claims court or 2) apply to an employment tribunal. Both the small claims court and the tribunal have, more often than not, found in favour of employees and ordered employers to pay up all sums owed/deducted as well as costs (and any other compensations) for unlawful and unreasonable deduction of wages or denial of fair, and agreed upon, compensation.

I would imagine that the US has something similar - or laws which safeguard employers?

The point is - something can be done and it should be done. If one or two writers were to stand up to this type of unlawful behaviour, companies in this industry would think twice before engaging in such blatant and completely illegal violations of fair employment law.


Scratch the above post ... you are right.

Hi OB,

I agree. Some writers are quite passive. It is usually inherent in Asians. But, I am making my move. Those guys operate in my country. I don't have to deal with them online now.

I consulted my lawyer yesterday and he told me that I have a shot at getting my money back if we can prove that EW and Uniwork are one and the same. I copied all the evidences I could from this forum (thank you to all that have provided such info) and gave them to my lawyer. I may get a recommendation from him on Tuesday.

That's about all I can share about this since I have a feeling EW monitors this forum. I mean, I would too if I was EW. There are other more damaging angles we can approach but that'll be my secret for now. I hope you guys understand.

Boom


Honey, I am in no way offended by your replies. I simply choose not to engage in an endless tirade of replies to try to defend my position. It is my position and that's all it is. If you think that I am being a hypocrite, then you have every right to your opinion. I will not ask you why nor will I try to defend myself. :)

By the way, I'm not a "dude"; I'm a "dudette". But that's okay. Some say that I could pass for a man. LOL!

I'm sure they don't mean it.


Ok, we're good then. I only said you were a hypocrite because you were suggesting that homework writers form some sort of union in another thread. I hope you got where I was coming from with my comment.


Good luck with that, really. I agree that they do monitor this forum but do inform us once you're able to make ew pay for what you're still owed (and much more if possible). Frankly, I believe that withholding your payments just because you quit is downright crappy.

dude is gender neutral. I have heard girls calling each other dude. no one says "dudette."

to all EW agents monitoring this thread, may I recommend stealing $200 or so from some random writer's account, and treating the office staff to an impromptu vodka party? you've spent all day being obtuse and confrontational, and it's hard barely speaking English... you deserve a break.

PS-- AR agents, aren't you jealous now?

Oops! I stand corrected. :)

I think I've heard Michelangelo from the old TMNT cartoon use the term. >.<


You're not with them anymore? >.<

Ah... Now I see your point. But, you may have misread my post. I was simply thinking out loud. It was more like question, really. I wasn't trying to make a call to action. If it came out that way, I am sorry.

Ok. So you're really out of the homework writing business? If so then I take it back.

Yes dear. I am out of the homework writing business. I write articles (like trivia and cooking), speeches, web content (Sigh! It's a living.) and I even do some (emotionless) technical writing now. I admit that I miss the challenge of writing dissertations; but, I don't want to find out that my children hired someone like me for their college term papers. It's a "mommy" thing.

Cool. I take it back then. You are definitely not a hypocrite. I'm sorry I called you one.

What a string of horror stories. I'm just thankful I work with a reputable company that bends over backwards to accommodate its writers. There are no fines (good grief!) and the company generally supports its writers in controversies with clients.

Well, we never did find out whether the original poster was able to get any of the remaining salary that he was owed. I am wondering as to what the full cost of the order was on the writer's part which resulted in the enormous fine that he received. I cannot say that sympathize with the OP though since he did have to revise the paper 10 times, Which tells me that he wasn't exactly on the same page as the client in terms of instructions and content. Since the client refused to pay for the paper, the company, would definitely want to blame someone for income loss. It is just sad that it is always the writers that get the blame. In this instance, I would like to have known if the client was an ESL as well since the ESL students have the worst reputation when it comes to placing orders. They are the ones who cannot understand instructions and need to be hand held in understanding the requirements of the paper after it has been submitted to them. I can say that I was unduly fined more than 12 times because these ESL students would rather file a revision request when all they wanted to do was ask a question. Doing this every time they had a question for me definitely resulted in my being penalized for "low quality work" when no revision requests were being ordered in the first place. No, the company did not listen to reason and they still implemented the fine even though they could see within the system that questions, not revision instructions were being sent my way as a writer.

Owing to the fact that writing companies now have their QAD run by fellow writers who have been promoted to "non-writing positions" where his only task is to review the writer's work, I can understand how unjust fines can be applied to an order. You see, when the writer reaches the QAD position in a company, his only source of income will be "fines" applied to the writer's work. Therefore, he must uncover mistakes and errors, or trumped up claims of seriously bad quality on the work of the writer so that he can earn an income for himself. When this person does these penalty assessments on the submitted work of his writers pool, he ha sonly one thing in mind, how much money do I need to make this month or this pay schedule. Then he will proceed to deduct the same amount from all his writers. Therefore, I commiserate with this guy. It is bad enough that he is most likely an illegitimate ESL writer, but then to be penalized for it to this extent, means that he was targeted by his team leader for some reason.

From what I've seen in other posts, this has become a serious issue that legitimate companies need to address. There has to be fair quality control processes that not only ensure customers get what they order but that ensures writers are treated fairly. I detest companies that rely on automated system, too. There are simply some tasks that require getting of your butt and checking the paper or details before assuming a writer erred. Most freelancers here (serious, professional, long-term writers) know that the majority of customer complaints are related to something minor that a customer has misunderstood or left out of their original instructions. Sadly, a large number of customers react badly versus approaching their writer kindly noting what they perceive and allowing the writer to reply and/or correct if a correction is warranted. :)

As a company writer, I was never fined. I don't know whether any of my fellow writers got fined; but I'd have left the company after the first time.

Even through an automated system, anytime an unjustified rewrite request came in, all we had to do was respond with an explanation of why the request was unjustified and then re-upload the original file to clear the request from our accounts. My responses usually included a note suggesting that they contact Customer Service if they disagreed. Anytime it was a legitimate request, I'd handle it ASAP and the company knew that; so they didn't usually bother me with any requests that I rejected. They just explained to the customers why whatever additional work they were requesting had to be paid for as extra work.

The problem, is that the company doesn't tell these writers what they did wrong. Just that the order is "under dispute" so the amount paid is going to be held until the situation is "resolved". The resolution usually being a "refund" to the client and a "fine" on the writer's part. That is scenario 1.

Scenario 2, is that the writer is about to exceed the "writer payment allowance" the company has preset for each writer, based on his company ranking. When such a situation occurs, the company makes up a "dispute" and then "fines" the writer to keep him from overshooting the budget meant for him. Depending upon how close he is to overshooting, he will either receive hundreds of dollars worth of fines, or a specific fine for "poor writing quality" without any evidence presented, or a minimal amount, reflecting the "degree of plagiarism" found in the paper. Either way, the company always gets to prevent going over-budget.

That's obviously a ridiculous racket. If they want to impose an earning limit for some writers, their system should simply prevent writers from taking projects that would result in exceeding any such limits in the first place; that's how legitimate companies enforce limitations. When I first started out as a writer, my main company limited me to taking a maximum of 3 projects per day; after I proved my ability to handle as many projects as I could take, they increased that to 10 projects per day, and, eventually, to 15 projects per day. To allow writers to take projects without restriction and actually do the work only to "fine" them after the fact based on those limits amounts to a ridiculous fraud. The only legitimate justification for "fines" would be some failure of writers to complete projects properly. If it's a matter of earning limits, the most they could possibly do without amounting to fraud against their writers would be to withhold excess payments for that month (temporarily) and indicate that any earnings in excess of those limits are "pending" because they're automatically pushed into the earnings for the following month.

I think essaywriters.net.DND is on its way to going out of business. The domain now directs to a writer's login page, but does not really function as it should. It won't even direct you towards a reset password or username page. Maybe, just maybe, they will be out of business by the new year. The site carries all of the red flags of a company going out of business.