EssayScam ForumEssayScam.org
Unanswered      
  
Forum / Writing Careers   % width   18 posts

Should a Freelance Writer complain/be angry if the clients submit the works as their own?


ariados26  1 | 26   Freelance Writer
Oct 25, 2012 | #1
As a freelance writer myself, I would like to ask for the opinion of those who are like me, on this matter. Would you be upset if your paper was submitted by your client under their name?
andywoods57  1 | 86   Freelance Writer
Oct 25, 2012 | #2
Everyone submits the work in their name only and a freelance writer knows this...Why would anyone get angry or complain ?
OP ariados26  1 | 26   Freelance Writer
Oct 25, 2012 | #3
Not all freelance writers share the same sentiment. Personally I don't mind. Once they get the paper and I am paid, like hell I care what they do with it. Thing is, a friend of mine was infuriated when the essay she wrote, made upon request, was used as the speech of the president of a certain school, where she herself actually works. So I'd like to find out if there are others who shared the same view as her.
ProfessorVerb  35 | 829   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 25, 2012 | #4
Would you be upset if your paper was submitted by your client under their name?

This wouldn't upset me personally (who the hell cares?) but the terms of service I use require the client to use the work product as a guide only. Therefore, this would strictly be a terms of service issue.
FSR  - | 47   Freelance Writer
Oct 25, 2012 | #5
No - I take it for granted that a client is going to pass off my work as their own despite the game we all play. If they really wanted a "sample" they could just get something from an essay bank at a fraction of the cost. I write for the money, if I get that then there's nothing to be upset about from my perspective.
JohnsMom  - | 266  
Oct 25, 2012 | #6
a friend of mine was infuriated when the essay she wrote, made upon request, was used as the speech of the president of a certain school, where she herself actually works.

If she wrote it to someone else's specifications and got paid for it, I don't think she has a reason to be upset. A blurb I wrote about an art exhibit, which I wrote under my own name and not as a piece of paid work, once ended up in a newspaper with someone else's name on it, and that got me pretty miffed. This doesn't sound like the same situation, though.
th63  - | 400  
Oct 25, 2012 | #7
I would not be upset at all because I just assumed all along that's exactly what they were doing. Of course, if they get caught then it's their lookout.
OP ariados26  1 | 26   Freelance Writer
Oct 29, 2012 | #8
According to my friend, the specifications of the "client" was that "it was to be an essay submitted in class by a high schooler, not a speech of a dumb school president who cannot even speak fluent English" (These are her exact words). She was actually shocked as to who her client turned out to be.
JohnsMom  - | 266  
Oct 29, 2012 | #9
She sold the work to be turned in by a high school student and was surprised and upset to find out that her client was a high school student who also read the work aloud?
OP ariados26  1 | 26   Freelance Writer
Oct 29, 2012 | #10
The speech was read by the president of a university. :) Apparently the client is the president/someone who works for the president who used the "I'm a high school student" online identity.
Innovator  2 | 24   Freelance Writer
Oct 29, 2012 | #11
As long as I get my cash, who cares?
Diamata  - | 3   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2012 | #12
It is well known that most, if not all, submit the works as their own.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Nov 02, 2012 | #13
it's what the writer intuitively takes for granted in terms of what the client will do vs. the phony legalese of the contract requiring the client to view the paper as a "model essay" or some such ****
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Sep 26, 2017 | #14
Angry FreelancerI would not be upset about that.

I fully expect them to do that since the company transfers the overall rights to the paper to the client upon completion and submission.

I know that they will be submitting the paper in their name and since they paid me for that privilege, I definitely don't have any problems with them doing that.

I would however, be quite upset if they revised the paper I created for them, submitted it, messed it up, got a lousy grade, then the student would come back to me complaining that I wrote a lousy paper.

I prefer that they don't revise the paper themselves since they have no idea how the paper is supposed to flow. If I get mad at the fact that they submitted the paper I created in their name, then that would defeat the purpose of academic outsourcing.

While we are conscious of the fact that what is created for the student is only a "model" paper, our eyes are also open to the fact that the student submits the essay to the teacher in its entirety anyway. Some of them won't even read the essay before submission.

So, provided the student doesn't complain and ask for revisions for mistakes in editing that I did not make, I have no problem with them submitting the paper in their own name.
Write Review  1 | 546 ☆☆  
Feb 09, 2019 | #15
I don't see why a writer would be upset at having a writer submit an original paper, written for and paid for by the client, to a class, in his name. That is the sort of business that I am in. I provide original papers to client's who don't have the time or ability to write the papers themselves. It is understood that the service I provide will be submitted for a grade. That is why there is a guarantee of an original paper being written for the client. The Terms of Service of my company clearly indicate that all rights and authority to use the original paper transfers to the client upon it's submission by the writer for the client's use. If any one should be angry, it is the client should he discover that the paper has been plagiarized and cannot be submitted in his own name for grading.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2019 | #16
It's none of my business what my customers do with the work they commission from me, because it belongs to them. However, that's not necessarily the case with all service providers, as many essay companies expressly prohibit this in their TOS. In fact, many of them expressly limit the rights of their customers to reading or studying the work and require them to cite the essay company as a source if the essay they provide is used in students' work in any way at all. That's why you should always ask first and/or read their TOS very carefully.

mtcitdhcaamamtosamn
Study Review  - | 254  
Oct 31, 2019 | #17
Agreed with others in this thread. I do not think that a writer ever has to be mad about clients trying to submit these documents as their own. After all, this is the very purpose of the work itself - to provide clients with academic researches to alleviate them of the hassle of writing it on their own. I found it odd that I had clients before who asked me multiple times if they were permitted to submit the files. After much reassurance, I still needed to explain to them why it is alright. While the ethical angle of it is debatable, this portion shouldn't even be made into a conversation in the first place.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Feb 01, 2020 | #18
The agreement that I made with the client when I accepted his order was that he would gain the intellectual rights to the paper that he paid me to write. That was clear from the very beginning. I am to develop a fresh paper for the client for his use. Whatever method that use may be. It's none of my business. As long as I got paid for my work, all was good. We wereboth conscious of the fact that he may decide to use the paper as is and submit it under his name. Why should have I minded? It's the unwritten end result of the job. If I did my job well, the client got academic points for it. That's part of the bonus I got for the work I did. So no, I would never get mad at clients who may submit my work as their own.




Forum / Writing Careers / Should a Freelance Writer complain/be angry if the clients submit the works as their own?