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if you are a 'genuine' american writer who helps students with essays, you are a fraud


queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 03, 2012 | #1
i love the way pheelyks and his gang try to vainly justify their 'careers' by claiming that they are a) honest about their location and b) honest about their 'qualifications'. The greatest deception in the essay industry lies at the very core of the purpose behind helping students with their assignments-----helping them to defeat the system.

It doesn't require an Albert Einstein to discover that most writers are willing accessories in helping perpetuate the deceptions that are the hallmark of modern education systems. Students buy essays to defeat the system even though WB and her conniving stooge pheelyks would want everyone to believe otherwise.

That a person like pheelyks would rather sit in his dungeon and perpetuate a cyclic fraud is deafening especially keeping in mind that if he is qualified, it wouldn't be hard for him to get a real career that is shaped by ethical principles.

I long for the day when US corporate scene will be littered with semi illiterate managers who will play a crucial role in totally destroying the US economic system.
pheelyks  
Feb 03, 2012 | #2
I love how you misinterpret the simplest of things in an attempt to make yourself seem honorable when you lie about the very things you mock us for.

I long for the day when US corporate scene

The vast majority of my customers are foreigners, sorry.
WritersBeware  
Feb 03, 2012 | #3
The vast majority of my customers are foreigners, sorry.

LMAO! So much for your little rant, Queen Sheep.
OP queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 03, 2012 | #4
Sure. Because you know perfectly well once you screw them up, they have little chance of getting a refund.
pheelyks  
Feb 03, 2012 | #5
Actually, it's because they are admitted to English-language universities and then don't have the skills demanded of them. The system's broken; that's why I have a job.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 03, 2012 | #6
I'd also like to point out another very important aspect of essay writing industry. My experience tells me that getting every single student to write does not really work. This is one of the most frequent reasons students look out to others.

My observation tells me that not everyone is a writer, the same way as not everyone is a singer or an artist.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 03, 2012 | #7
Writing EditorI'd agree with this. The main reason that this industry even exists, (besides colleges admitting students who have no business in college in the first place just to collect their tuition fees), is that writing assignments are forced on students who have no interest in ever writing anything more than an email. Writing more than that is a great skill to have but you can't force someone to learn to write if he doesn't want to.

The ability to express yourself in writing is important, which is why I think Composition classes make a lot more sense than assigned substantive academic "research" at the college level. As a matter of fact, a recent study of professional scientific journal submissions determined that even they plagiarize more often than not. (They identified particular mistakes in the actual citations that appeared over and over in different peer-reviewed journals and determined that professional researchers often just copy their supposed "sources" from the references in other published articles because they all contained the exact same mistake, like a specific comma or semicolon out of place in multiple papers which is statistically impossible for multiple independent researchers to make unless they're just copying the mistake in that citation from other articles.) In my opinion, fudged writing in professional scientific journals is a much more serious matter than in undergraduate academic writing.

We get tons of Nursing papers, precisely because nursing is about knowing what drugs and procedures to administer and how to follow doctors' orders and nothing to do with writing essays about the history of modern nursing or the discovery of penicillin. Same goes for what makes a good teacher and we get tons of Education papers too. Dental students seem to order a lot of essays and even if they breach our contract and actually submit them for credit, I really doubt that any patient has ever suffered any worse dental care by virtue of dentists' not writing their own papers on root canals. By definition, to the extent you allow students to choose their own essay topics in the first place, the actual subject matter of their papers is arbitrary and not "necessary" knowledge.

In my opinion, even when students write their own essays from scratch, they don't represent anything approaching academic "research"; they're little more than chores that force them to struggle with paraphrasing a bunch of other peoples' ideas until they have enough to satisfy a page requirement. People who have any real need to learn how to write more than emails don't need to be forced to do it through mandatory assignments and people who hate writing or can't write don't usually pick majors like Journalism that require a lot of writing after graduation. Just let nurses and engineers study nursing and engineering science and there won't be such a demand for professional writers to help with academic essays.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 03, 2012 | #8
You've built up this argument really well. This is ONE major reason that writers like us make a living - 100% honest. We're giving our best to our clients just because they expect us to deliver what they ask us for. However, people like Queen Sheba seem downright jealous since they can't write.

Let me dare to say that perhaps writing is one of the most difficult things to do in the world. This is why we have only a few good writers in every country; whereas, we have countless professionals in every field.
OP queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 03, 2012 | #9
However, people like Queen Sheba seem downright jealous since they can't write.

wow!!!!!!..............................nice try. You think i am envious of your little business????
look, MeowCon: i earn well over $20,000p.m (teaching 3 universities) without the need of resorting to slaving for students and getting paid peanuts. But wait: i am ready to slay every single principle that guide my life and become a writer. But i wouldn't touch a paper if i am not getting paid $200 per page.

why the ****** hell would i be jealous of your 'success= $300 per month', meowcon?????
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 04, 2012 | #10
Haha, why are you so irritated? I believe every single thing you tell me about your earnings, etc. in quite impressive. I am sure it should make you so happy. So, I am sure you don't need to mention any such thing again.

But wait: i am ready to slay every single principle that guide my life and become a writer.

Nice.

EVERYONE, please note that Queen Sheba, the research scholar, is ready to become a writer for the price she has quoted above. Please get to her asap so that you have great honor in hiring her as your academic writer.

why the ****** hell would i be jealous of your 'success= $300 per month', meowcon?????

You know NOTHING about me or anyone here. You're so full of shallow arrogance. I feel pity for you.

Still, you're so obviously jealous. This is a surprise for me as well. You have the answer to it.
boutin21  - | 3   Student
Apr 11, 2012 | #11
I agree with the notion that making someone write, who's not a good writer, is like making someone compose a musical without being a good musician or a musician at all.
OP queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Mar 28, 2013 | #12

Exposed : Writers2beware unusual idiocy.



Why does he assume that people out there are so desperate that they can only earn a living through assisting students cheat the system?

Before I can earn money as an academic slave, I'd have already sold my two eyes.
It is just a matter of common sense. The most hardworking writer there can , at most, earn $3000 per week(and that's a hard feat). This translates to $12,000 per month or $144k.

Making $10k a month through other avenues is much cheaper, less strenuous and more ethical.
Personally, I own a niche web directory marketing VERY specific products/vendors (not those google ads nonsense) and I do charge $180 per month for premium ads that prove very popular with the visitors. Every month, I do get a minimum of about 70 premium accounts, translating into about $12,600 a month.

Here is where it gets better: I only spend 8 hours with the directory every week and operational costs are roughly $2,500 a month. Then an idiot here can think I can scavenge for some horrible orders from broke students??? I spend my time slaving for a lazy, idiotic student? Great

My point is: there are many unspoken but very rewarding internet opportunities that one can get without slaving for dirty students.
WB, you must be an idiot to think that the essay industry is lucrative; it is not. I know literally tens of people who make good money working from their bedrooms. And no, they don't engage in academic writing.

FYI, the essay industry is being left to losers and those who cannot see anything beyond helping students cheat.
Where do you think I get all the time to torment you (WB)?
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
Mar 29, 2013 | #13
WB, you must be an idiot to think that the essay industry is lucrative; it is not.

LMAO! There's no money in it for YOU, because you're an incompetent hack.

Where do you think I get all the time to torment you (WB)?

The word that you were searching for is "entertain."
topwriter22  - | 1  
Mar 29, 2013 | #14
Hi Sheeba,

I will give you a quality paper if you email me: @gmail (FREE essay plan included)
99Essays  3 | 243   Freelance Writer
Mar 29, 2013 | #15
Not everyone in the essay industry is a writer. As in other industries, there are layers of producers, brokers, owners, etc.
OP queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Mar 29, 2013 | #16
I will give you a quality paper if you email me:(FREE essay plan included)

Yes, i have already sent my order to you. My essay question is ' spammers like topwriter22 are starving idiots that can never make a single $. discuss'.

I will pay you $500 pp and i will need the paper within the next 15 years. You can use your own hallucinations as references.
ProfessorVerb  35 | 829   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 29, 2013 | #17
In his book, On Writing, Stephen King says there are at least one million talented writers in the United States and only about 5 percent of them are able to support themselves and their families writing. I may not be writing Cujo (King was drunk when he wrote that), but I am among the 5 percent...
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 29, 2013 | #18
only about 5 percent of them are able to support themselves and their families writing..

Ditto. Same deal in the entertainment industry. If every working actor in Hollywood suddenly dropped dead and had to be replaced by the best actors currently waiting tables or checking coats for a living, the quality of films wouldn't change one bit; it might even improve.
OP queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Mar 30, 2013 | #19
LMAO! There's no money in it for YOU, because you're an incompetent hack.

So, how much do you earn shilling for your masters?
No, i don't want to students' money. They are too cheap, nagging, immature, and clueless.

incompetent hack.

Sure, i am clueless/incompetent once it comes to hiding criminals, shilling for companies, and destroying other people's careers.
I salute your shilling tactics, your abilities to conceal criminals(WRT comes to mind) and threatening genuine writers.
Nutcase, why are you still concealing WRT's latest outfits, knowing very well she will execute another round of scam? Is it a coincidence that you both returned to the forum around the same time?
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
Mar 30, 2013 | #20
So, how much do you earn shilling for your masters?

Why you can't quote a SINGLE post in which I have ever "shilled" for any site?

I salute your shilling tactics

Quote, please.

your abilities to conceal criminals(WRT comes to mind)

Proof, please.

threatening genuine writers

Oh, you mean the ones who start s-i* with me first and then cry like babies after I finally retaliate? Yeah, that's true.
ProfessorVerb  35 | 829   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 31, 2013 | #21
incompetent hack

I continue to strive for competent hack.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Apr 15, 2013 | #22
With about $1.8 million in my account, i can never dream of writing papers for students.

You have money in Cyprus bank?
eminenzmedia  - | 1   Company Representative
Apr 25, 2013 | #23
writers2beware
Are you the moral police out here regulating the whole industry. Just concentrate on your job boss, dont get cheap popularity by putting others name down. It is surprising that the forum is still accepting your ****. How can a member just put in personal details of a person on forum. Its surprising.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Feb 03, 2021 | #24
I guess the OP was just trying to let his frustrations out for some reason. There was really no point to his post other than to try to harm other writers at this forum, which is not what this forum was meant to do. ES is supposed to help students avoid being scammed. However, if students opt to be scammed, that is another issue. Everyone is entitled to make a living. How they make their living is their business. In this case, the writers in question may or may not be delivering on their client orders. That is none of our business anymore.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 06, 2021 | #25
The only kinds of fraud that students who read this forum care about are the types of fraud that are perpetrated against them. If they're comfortable with the idea of outsourcing their essays in the first place, they're not the least bit concerned about how or why their writers became academic essay writers or about the ethics of being a professional academic writer. They read this forum to help them avoid getting ripped off by scam companies and simply to find a legitimate and reliable source of academic writing who will provide exactly what they promise to provide in return for payment. A perfect analogy would be the relationship between marijuana smokers and their dealers: pot buyers really couldn't care less about how or why their dealers became pot dealers, or about how criminal law applies to pot dealing. To buyers, a legit dealer is someone who gives them a good product and exactly as much of it as was paid for; and a "fraud" is a dealer who gives them a lousy product or less of a good product than they paid for, or who takes their money and gives them a bag of oregano instead of pot. Whether it's in the realm of academic essays or pot, satisfied customers who use the same provider many times and for many years obviously don't consider their providers "frauds."
noted  8 | 2042 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jan 13, 2023 | #26
If you are an academic writer of any sort who does not care about how students use the paper, you are definitely a fraud. If you claim to be an academic writer who has a degree in law, but does not care that you are breaking the law in at least 17 states in the U.S., as well as anti-essay mill laws in several countries then, you are definitely a fraudster who should eventually be brought up on relevant charges, at least in the U.S. The fact that a law school graduate would do this sickens me no end.

No ifs or but's about it. The laws of several countries, including several specific/ individual states of America, are very clear about this. Yes, I have been doing my due diligence regarding this topic. I know what I am talking about.
The opinions are that of the author's alone based on an individual capacity. Opinions are provided "as is" and are not error-free.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 17, 2023 | #27
It's hardly that I "don't care" about my clients or about how they choose to use my work. My clients tend to be extremely appreciative of my work and I've often reciprocated by going quite far above and beyond what I'm "obligated" to do for them. Some of them have been with me from the time of their college application essays through graduate school, (especially my Nursing clients). In general, I merely write every project to the very best of my abilities and trust my (adult) clients to use my work in the manner that they consider to be in their best interests and that provides them the greatest value for their hard-earned money. Unlike most large essay companies whose TOS specifically do NOT transfer copyright and/or even joint co-ownership of any project that they deliver, I always transfer copyright and exclusive ownership of every project to every customer, because I think it's the right thing to do. When you pay good money for writing that you commission, in the first place, you deserve to own that work 100%, not just receive a license limiting you to "reading," "studying," and/or "citing" the work as a "source" in your writing.

Just out of curiosity, when was it, exactly, that you made your radical 180-degree reversal from your previous position about "clearing plates," academic integrity, and the huge difference between "printing fake diplomas or certificates of completion for them" and doing them "a great service" by just writing their essays?

https://essayscam.org/forum/gt/compromizing-academic-honesty-2164/2/

Ever since the formalization of the educational system, students have had help from advanced learners, or people simply willing to help them through one form or another. Be it their parents, siblings, paid tutors, or hired writers,

Does that compromise academic integrity? I do not think so, specially not in today's highly competitive academic world.

There are just too many papers to complete, projects to submit, lectures to attend, and real life problems to deal with for them to not have any academic writing help.

If we can help clear their plate while they try to accomplish other tasks, then we have done them a great service. It isn't like we are printing fake diplomas or certificates of completion for them. That would be a clear compromising of academic integrity.





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