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The Path to Academic Salvation is Through Freelance Writers Alone!


Randall  1 | -   Freelance Writer
Mar 03, 2012 | #1
Hello Everyone,

Writers PathI am a Canadian freelance academic writer with many, many years of writing experience. I have an undergraduate degree in Mathematics, an MA in Philosophy from a highly reputable university, and have been working as a private tutor and academic writer for the past several years.

Let me preface my remarks by saying that I have never worked for an essay writing sweatshop or as part of a team of any kind. I have always been completely independent and have acquired my clients through my own initiative. I'm a true lone wolf: a freelance, academic consultant.

The best piece of advice I can give any of you is to stay away from essay writing sites completely. You are much better off looking for a freelance academic writer on Craigslist or somewhere else. This forum attests to the fact that most essay sites are either outright scams or are run by shady dealers who outsource the work to third-world countries and don't give a damn about presenting you with something that's thoughtfully crafted, grammatically perfect, and written to your exact specifications.

You should also be aware of the fact that you get what you pay for. I never work for any less than $20 an hour and I often earn much more, but I can command that kind of price because the service I provide is exceptional and I consistently write first class papers.

Best of luck with your studies.
WritersBeware  
Mar 03, 2012 | #2
The best piece of advice I can give any of you is to stay away from essay writing sites completely.

The exact opposite is true, but you already know that.

Gee, let me guess-you advertise on craigslist? Your disingenuous, self-promoting tripe is neither unique nor clever.
hiremypen  - | 1   Freelance Writer
Mar 03, 2012 | #3
I am a former high school English teacher and returning writer after a ten year hiatus and am trying to get all the dust off my pen (computer keyboard).

The online world of writing jobs does appear to pay so cheaply that I don't understand one thing. How is anyone supporting themselves, including the originating company?

One excellent commenter here, pheelyks, mentioned that he or she can research/write four pages per hour, or 1200 words. I am not sure if that means all citations are also done and are correct in the bibliography. That would be $40 per hour on the average.

At that rate, pheelyks says he or she can earn $1000 per week in the busy times, which is about six months out of the year. I believe the average rate is $10 per page for a new writer on certain sites, and each page must have 300 words. So is this writer working five hours per day, five days per week, at $10 per page?

Do you agree or disagree with the ability to produce four quality, ready to submit, pages of noted research content within one hour? I am a pretty fast typist, reader and note-taker and can organize in my head on the run, but that production rate seems a bit of a push if quality is an issue.

Thank you for your response.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Mar 03, 2012 | #4
Thumbs up!
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Mar 03, 2012 | #5
99%-100% of contractors in this business work and are paid on per-project basis. The client doesn't care how much time you may spend on the project and never will. Each project is completely different. Sometimes it's required to read a 200-page book to write a 5-page project.

It's like asking a genre painter to paint 4 paintings an hour. Makes little sense if you have any quality expectations.
pheelyks  
Mar 03, 2012 | #6
pheelyks, mentioned that he or she can research/write four pages per hour, or 1200 words

Yep.

I am not sure if that means all citations are also done and are correct in the bibliography

Yep.

That would be $40 per hour on the average.

Nope.

earn $1000 per week in the busy times

At a minimum, sure.

So is this writer working five hours per day, five days per week, at $10 per page?

Nope.

but that production rate seems a bit of a push if quality is an issue.

Then I guess this business isn't right for you.
squonk  1 | 8   Freelance Writer
Mar 06, 2012 | #7
I'd love to work as an independent writer and not have to involve any website as a middleman that will take a fifty percent cut of what my client is paying. I'm pretty wary of advertising independently on the internet, though. It seems like it's way too easy to get ripped off by your client, or vice versa, depending on how the specific setup works. If I had the client pay the full amount after sending him, say, a fifth of the paper, that could be one solution, but that still leaves the possibility of doing hours of unpaid research. I don't see any solution to that problem.
writersneed  3 | 9  
Mar 10, 2012 | #8
I think you are right. What customers need are quality papers.
ProfessorVerb  35 | 829   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 21, 2012 | #9
I never work for any less than $20 an hour

I'd starve to death at those rates.
srandrews  11 | 138   Freelance Writer
Oct 21, 2012 | #10
I think it's best to find your own clients and then fill in any holes in your schedule with work for companies. Of course, finding the clients is often the difficult part. There are some good methods, but I don't think the vast majority of writers know how to go about it. And the ones who do, don't say much about it.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Mar 07, 2021 | #11
Wow! The title of this thread makes the academic writers appear to be Gods who can mete out punishments and rewards as we deem fit. In truth, the only academic salvation for a student, relies on the student himself. That is because the student is the one who has to accomplish the academic requirements to pass their courses. The writers are a mere footnote in this consideration. The work we do does not spell the academic future of the student. We are mere helpers in that quest. It is the student who must do the actual work, that a writer has nothing to do with, in order to gain the academic benefits of his actions.
noted  10 | 2064 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Oct 14, 2022 | #12
There are verified writing companies and freelancers here took an oath known as OAR. One of the specifications of this oath is that the freelancer will not outsource the work because he is not qualified to work on it. I think one of the members of this forum is in direct violation of this oath that he took. Since he admits that he tells his clients he cannot work on the paper and then refers them to another writer or, tells them he will have to outsource parts of the paper. This oath violation should be dealt with by the owners of this forum. Why create such an oath if the freelancers here can openly violate that oath and get away with it? In that case, I would think twice about saying that academic salvation can only be found through freelancers.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 14, 2022 | #13
One of the specifications of this oath is that the freelancer will not outsource the work ...

In your desperation to disparage me, you're saying more and more foolish things. What is obviously meant by "not outsourcing the work" is outsourcing work without a client's permission.

I think one of the members of this forum is in direct violation of this oath

Since he admits that he tells his clients he cannot work on the paper and then refers them to another writer or, tells them he will have to outsource parts of the paper.

1. Nobody (including you) actually believes anything as foolish as the proposition that honestly disclosing to clients that I do not have the confidence to handle a particular project is a "violation" of anything, on this forum or elsewhere; in fact, it's exactly what a writer is supposed to do anytime he lacks high confidence about a project, and clients appreciate that honesty, quite obviously.

2. Referring clients to other writers means helping clients get their projects completed by someone trustworthy. Nobody (including you) actually believes anything as foolish as the proposition that responding to a client's request for a referral to someone else trustworthy is a "violation" of anything, on this forum or elsewhere. The only alternative would be leaving them twisting in the wind to scramble to start trying to find someone else trustworthy on their own, from scratch.

3. Please at least exhibit some integrity by avoiding twisting my words completely out of context and ignoring my previous specific responses to the same exact accusation. In Post #13 of this thread about statistics-based projects linked below, I said:

For projects that are heavy on stats, I always let my clients know that I just pay someone who is a stats expert for that rather than struggling through it myself, and probably doing it much less well.

(Emphasis added.) https://essayscam.org/forum/wc/statistics-papers-orders-writing-jobs-3626/

Ever since then, you have repeatedly misrepresented what I said and twisted my words to support your disingenuous and deliberately dishonest misrepresentation of what I did say and what I never said. First, statistics work is the only type of work that I don't do myself in any project for any client of mine. Second, and much more importantly, I don't even do that without my client's explicit permission. You already know all of this, of course, because you can read English and I've responded directly to your previous identical accusations several times. Your recent reversal of your opinion of me and your continual unprovoked defamatory comments since you posted this below is all because you were, quite apparently, so incredibly insulted that I recently mentioned that your ESL writing is very good, but still recognizable as ESL, which it is. That wasn't intended as an insult; but you obviously took it for a declaration of war. Post # 3 in this thread is what you (really) thought about me.

A seasoned writer like FLW will be able to help you solve this problem. He can take the current work and turn it into something usable that you can submit fora grade or, he can write up something from scratch...

Trust him. He is fully capable of helping you out. He may charge you a premium price but, it will be worth it. You will see that for yourself.

https://essayscam.org/forum/es/dissertation-writing-services-days-rewrite-6644/#msg85109

Interestingly, particularly considering your brand new opinion that I've "violated" something that should be "dealt with" by the forum by sometimes providing referrals to other writers when I can't take on a project with confidence, this is what you used to think about that:

... Just work with him and he will work wonders for you. If he can't then he will put you in touch with someone from his team / network .... When in a bind, he is one of those from here whom you can trust.

(Emphasis added.)
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Oct 15, 2022 | #14
disclosing to clients that I do not have the confidence to handle a particular project

If you had a degree in the topic you were being asked to write about you should have the confidence and ability to write on every aspect of that topic. The fact that you have to humiliate yourself by admitting you're not up to the job says everything about you.

You hold yourself out as being a competent writer in a wide spectre of topics when the truth is that you are incompetent and out of your depth by having to admit you can't take on the work. Why waste students valuable time? We only have your dubious word that you have any qualifications anyway.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 15, 2022 | #15
You hold yourself out as being a competent writer in a wide spectre of topics when the truth is that you are incompetent and out of your depth by having to admit you can't take on the work.

I'm competent enough to know that "spectre" means a ghost or apparition or aura, and that word you're looking for there is spectrum, Chief.

If you had a degree in the topic you were being asked to write about you should have the confidence and ability to write on every aspect of that topic.

The topics in which I have lower confidence obviously tend to be subjects that I never studied and in which I never had any interest, not topics in my own degree areas. In any case, that's still a very silly proposition. Someone with a general undergraduate History degree or in American History (for just one example) might be something of an expert in American History but still know relatively little about Russian History and, therefore, have much lower confidence writing about Russian History than writing about American History. I never took a single Tax course in law school and have never had any interest in Tax law; so I avoid the vast majority of Tax law topics.

The fact that you have to humiliate yourself by admitting you're not up to the job says everything about you.

I don't consider being completely honest with my clients and always erring on the safe side in sharing my relative confidence level with them to be "humiliating" at all.
noted  10 | 2064 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Oct 15, 2022 | #16
@FreelanceWriter The more that I learn about your dishonest ways, lies, and other things in relation to how you do business, the more I am sorry that I agreed with certain parties to help you and defend you at the start. The last thing I want to do is to continue to assist you in promoting yourself when you have a strong tendency to constantly put your foot in your mouth just to make yourself appear like a Diamond among the Cubic Zirconia's of the freelance writing field. I for one never pretended to be anything but a participant at this forum and I do my best to adhere to the policies and guidelines for proper self representation. You on the other hand misrepresent yourself whenever possible and lie about your actual skills and academic training as it suits you.
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a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Oct 15, 2022 | #17
@FreelanceWriter
quote 'The topics in which I have lower confidence obviously tend to be subjects that I never studied and in which I never had any interest,' quote. Students note, this dishonest prankster advertises his expert writing service in subjects he has never studied. Red flags everywhere.

quote 'I never took a single Tax course' quote. I know that such grammar is reserved for sloppy, incompetent, writers. Where did you take the tax course? To the movies, to the Empire State Building to the imaginary law school? The word you are looking for is 'studied'. The sort of mistake an ESL hack makes.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 17, 2022 | #18
The more that I learn about your dishonest ways, lies, and other things in relation to how you do business

Please explain exactly what I have ever said that was "dishonest," what I've ever "lied" about, and exactly what it is about how I "do business" that you consider problematic. You're just furious and, I suppose, horribly insulted that I recently indicated that your ESL writing is very good, but still recognizable as ESL, which wasn't even intended as an insult, nor was I trying to "discredit" you, as you suggested. It was in response to a post of yours in which I thought that you were referring to the fact that you're an ESL speaker. Since then, you've purposely twisted my words and repeatedly announced, completely falsely, that I "outsource" projects because I volunteered the fact that for statistics-based projects ONLY, I use a stats specialist to do SPSS, and ONLY after first fully disclosing that to my clients.

Your other main excuse for continually defaming me here is that I said that I believed approximately half of my clients are UK-based and then chose to upload a file documenting that approximately one-third of my clients from that particular month were UK-based. The point was simply that I have a LOT of UK-based clients and that the vast majority of my clients are repeat customers, in response to the nonsensical argument that an American writer can't provide high-quality UK projects. Since then, you've repeatedly claimed that this is evidence of some kind of "lie." Likewise, and for the same reason, I once posted a screenshot of my emails to document that a particular UK Law client who found me here in 2011 ended up using me many times in between 2011 and 2015 and then again in 2020. (Incidentally, that client left public feedback about me and specifically confirmed that I originally declined his first project, precisely because I don't take on any projects unless I have high confidence about being able to do them very well.) You promptly accused me of "disregarding" that client's privacy and of "violating" international online privacy laws, even though that screenshot was heavily redacted, precisely to avoid disclosing anything that could possibly be used to identify him, other than by his public forum S/N. That thread also illustrates what you really think about my abilities and about how I "do business" before you recently reversed yourself based on nothing besides personal animus:

https://essayscam.org/forum/wc/legitimate-writing-sites-work-347/2/#msg86173

Your main motivation for all of this dishonest vitriol is personal, rather than anything remotely related to any objective "principle." Even you don't believe there's anything "wrong" with a writer disclosing to his clients what his confidence level is with their projects before taking them on or about using a stats specialist for SPSS work with the full knowledge and permission of clients.

You on the other hand misrepresent yourself whenever possible and lie about your actual skills and academic training as it suits you.

Please explain exactly what I have ever "misrepresented" about myself and on exactly what evidentiary or factual basis you have the nerve to claim that I've ever "lied" about my skills or my academic training. I've never "misrepresented" or "lied" about my skills or training and, instead, I've repeatedly said that I always disclosed to my clients exactly what my confidence level is with every project before taking it on, especially in areas outside of my own degree areas.




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