Sites that hire non-native English writers?

I've recently started writing. So far, I've concentrated on constant-content and hubpages. They are wonderful sites. Constant-content has a detailed writers' guideline that is a big help to those who wish to improve their writing. I've had two articles accepted and listed in their catalogue-only one of them has been sold so far. Those two sites do not, for the moment, provide an income that I can rely on. I also tried bidding sites, but I could not hack it-the competition is fierce and new writers can only get work by pricing their services at incredibly low figures. All that work for a dollar? No way. Many wonderful sites (per the reviews I've seen on the net) hire only Americans, or writers from the UK and Canada. I'm looking for sites that would hire a writer such as myself. I've spoken and written in the English language from the age of five and all the way through University. I'm pretty confident about my abilities to write, not so much about my marketing skills.

Q1: Which are some of these sites that would hire me?
Q2: How would I go about the application process?

Thank you in advance to anyone who responds.

Based on the level of English in the post, you should be competitive anywhere you apply. You write like a native.

@ srandrews,

Thanks a lot for responding. Do you have some pointers as far as sites that would hire me, a non-native, if I could prove my writing abilities? From what I gather, textbrokers and others like it restrict their workforce to the U.S, UK an Canada. I was in the process of applying to demand-studios when I discovered through a review that it has the same restrictions-they probably wouldn't even look at my application or any links and samples that I may send them to prove my skills.

If you've written in English since the age of 5, I don't know that it's fair to consider yourself ESL, since that's the same age that all of us native speakers start writing. In any case, this is a rare example of an ESL whose writing is not very obviously and immediately recognizeable as ESL. Almost all the other ESLs on this forum who've ever argued that being ESL "doesn't matter" or "shouldn't matter" to American clients write in English that just screams "I was written by a non-native English speaker" to anybody who isn't ESL.

I now study British English to perfect it totaly. American is too ez. Try British.

I agree - I don't think not being born in an English speaking country or having multiple languages makes you a non-native if you have been reading and writing English since the age of five. I'd just carry on and conduct your business as a native would - you are really anyway.

Hi Writers,

My country is a former British colony, so our written English is in fact British English. However, most computers here are configured to use American English and I've had to acquaint myself with the differences in spelling between the two for more than five years now (ever since I started university and had to type my essays). Thankfully, the structure of the language is pretty much the same.

I think the most important thing to note is some differences in spelling. For example, how we typically spell words that end with the letters 'our' like labour, honour, favour would be improper to an American-so I leave out the letter 'u'. In fact, as I write this, those three words have already been red-lined to indicate a spelling error (lol!) I know that Americans would also leave out the 'ue' at the end of 'catalogue' so that it would be 'catalog'. I can't think of other words that vary in spelling between the two, but there are more.

In any case, just remember that the structure of the language does not vary (Thank God!). Otherwise, we'd be forced to study American English from scratch. As it is, we only have to learn the few words or categories of words whose spelling (but not use) varies. The computers are a big help.

I love the Constant-content writers' guidelines because they retrain me to write English properly and to avoid common mistakes that people make in their day-to-day use of the language. I had forgotten some basic rules that I was taught back in primary school. I think they would be great for anyone to use, whether you write using American or British English.

I totally agree that your work would not look out of place on any English speaking website.

I'd love to work with you! Email me at @gmail and we can get you started right away!

Best,

Peter

ChinaEssays, how much are you guys paying?

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What exactly is the full email address? I'm very green. I'm not sure how this would work or how I might protect myself, but I want to learn. I need to make an income.

Dont work with anon fraudster. If they have @gmail, @yahoo, @hotmail or other anon email - they fraud and they scam you. After they scam you, they get new anon email.

Sorry , my email was blocked. peter dot vincer is the first part of my email...if that doesn't work, I'm not sure how we can get into contact. Also, this is NOT an anon email address, it is my personal address using my personal name. I only own one gmail and one yahoo email. Ugh. I don' t think this message board offers private messages, does it?

I think the most important criteria while writing any essay is your language skill and your ability to answer the questions correctly.

I think customers are more concerned about the quality of work.

Customers of any industry want honesty more than anything else. If you're ESL and you do good work, just tell them exactly that. What most American customers want is simply good work that also sounds like American English.

unless the customer asks where you're from, it's none of their business. the bottom line is the quality of the product.

Clearly, your written English cannot be differentiated from that of a native. Sometimes, I wonder why all the hullabaloo about ESL writers.

It's because the vast, vast majority of them write like **** in English. It's likely that they get a bad rap by being painted with the same brush as the Ukrainian, Pakistani and Kenyan websites we see popping up under various guises and pseudonyms.

I agree with this, but I think people misrepresenting where they're from is a big problem in this industry, don't you? Before they order, customers don't know what the quality of the product will be, and they use ESL/native status as a means of trying to differentiate prior to payment.

this is equally true, no matter where the company is based.

my point above was to point this out as a faulty yardstick. I'm not denying its popularity.

It isn't a "faulty yardstick," though. If a company is actually based in the US/UK and actually hires US/UK writers, the customer is much more likely to get a decent paper than if the company is based in Ukraine/Pakistan/India and hires foreign writers for four dollars a page. There is no guarantee that a native writer will complete a stellar paper just as there is no guarantee that a non-native writer will produce something less than desirable, but the odds are definitely different.

Also, there's the legal aspect. A US customer hiring a US-based company has much greater legal recourse should things turn sour (same for a UK customer/UK company), making the question of country of origin even more relevant.

So true. However, I should add that stories of scams, even on this forum, involving either the US/UK based companies or the clients, are quite numerous. Just take the very recent example of a battle that turned violent here: you know what I mean...!

So which way do you think the wheel turns?

I'm new to the forum (but not to the business), and I don't know what you're referring to.

Is Ukraine English speaking? India is. If the Indian writer is well educated, I would think he could put together a decent paper, seeing as the schools over there use English- I've never been to India, though. I'm just guessing.

I would think that the best way to weed out poor writers is to look at samples of previous work, customer feedback and to require your writers to pass tests before signing them up on writing sites. In addition, the best sites have each paper pass through the sharp eye of an editor before the customer can see it. If the work is not up to standard, it's sent back to the writer for corrections. Some will punish writers whose papers are constantly sent back for such rewrites by giving them a very low grade on a grading system that determines the kind of jobs available to them (Lower paying jobs for the lower-graded writers) or by limiting the number of times a writer can have papers sent back to him/her for rewrites (A 'three strikes and you're out' kinda thing). A writer's grade improves as the positive feedback adds up over time.

Such a system will naturally provide customers with the best writers, regardless of the circumstances in which they learnt the language. But simply categorizing writers based on whether they're native or not will not. All it does is eliminate all the good (and bad) writers from the pool of potential hires.

India really isn't. I mean, the majority of people might be able to converse in English, but anyone who has spoken to a few Indians in call centers (I don't mean to sound racist, but the fact is a lot of companies outsource call centers there precisely because there is a large population of English "speakers") knows that this doesn't translate to real fluency and certainly not to the ability to write at a college level (or what should be a college level).

Also, I think a lot of sites promise more than they actually perform, and there's no way for a customer to verify the claims you say are important. Customer feedback is faked all the time, work samples are stolen, and editors might not exist at all or might not be as qualified as claimed.

Again, I don't think being a native English speakers makes you a qualified writer, and I don't think learning English as a second/foreign language makes you unqualified. For customers without a real way to make a determination about a writer before receiving any work form that writer, though, claims of nativehood can be very persuasive and are often used as lies to attract customers to scam sites. It can also be used as effective and honest advertising for native writers.

I meant to say:

''All it does is eliminate all the good (and bad) non-native writers from the pool of potential hires.''

All valid points, Johnsmom.


Poorly run sites-I think this is what these concerns amount to. Yet no site can control reviews that are published beyond its pages, can they? I would hope not. The nature of business is that reputation makes or breaks you and you simply cannot fake it for very long on the internet. The quality of service spreads fast among writers and users of that service on the internet. I've actually discovered (so far) that reviews by users tend to be accurate. I guess I'm saying that sites that claim to have those measures in place when they do not will soon be known to users to be liars and scammers.

Also, gutting non-natives will not protect the customer from bad writers. If those sites are so poorly managed, then it's just as likely that the non-natives will slip through whatever measures are in place (or claimed to be) to lock them out. That criteria will still not protect those customers who use it. This is the internet, after all. If you will not trust any site to do what it promises, then there's no way to know that many of your demands are met in reality. All you can do is judge the quality of paper you have in your hands at the end.

They are so many of them, such as Uvocorp, Academia-research.........the list is endless, they have a self explanatory procedure, all you need do is get to their homepage. All the best, it is not easy though.

The application process is relatively easy. Just take a grammar test, pass that, then take a research test, pass that, wait for a phone call that serves as your interview, create your writer profile and that's it. From the sounds of it, you should not have any difficulty in passing any of the tests and whichever company hires you will be lucky to have you. Word of advice though, keep track of the scam sites as reported in various threads in this forum and steer clear of them. Those are the companies that are run by scam artists from the Ukraine, Pakistan, India, the Philippines, Africa, etc. They will give you a nightmare work experience will most likely have you rethinking your desire to continue as a company connected academic writer. You could try applying at the companies listed in EssayDirectory though. They are mostly on the level and have solid credentials in terms of their work quality and their treatment of their writers.

Even if an academic writing site claims that they hire only American of UK based writers, you will not lose anything if you ask regarding their hiring process and if they would consider hiring an ESL who is of native speaking level. Some of them require that the writer take a test to prove his English proficiency. If you manage to pass the test, then you can be sure that they will hire you. The only way that you won't get hired by those sites is if you do not even try to apply. Never take no for an answer. Ask for the chance to prove yourself. Don't talk to the staff, ask to have a few moments of time with the HRD supervisor. Depending upon how you negotiate, you may or may not get the chance to at least take a test for hiring considerations. You only lose in the hiring game if you choose to remain silent rather than ask if you can at least try.

Clearly, this is someone who has never seen typical ESL academic writing. It's atrocious and incredibly obvious that it was written by someone who speaks English only as a second language.

This is often overlooked by a lot of ESL writers. While there isn't really any certainty that you can match up to ENL writers, there's still a sliver of a chance to be able to prove that you're still a reliable writer who's willing to work on their own mistakes. Also, I wish ESL writers wouldn't just limit themselves to these type of writing opportunities, especially when there are numerous other types of freelance writing opportunities that are out there that can be more appropriate. Using immensely technical language is required when dealing with academic writing, so perhaps trying to venture into simpler forms of writing prior to attempting to infiltrate this particular field can be beneficial for them to diversify their own writing portfolio.

Academic writing really isn't all that difficult or "technical"; after all, every assignment is something that students are expected to be able to produce on their own. An ESL writer looking to break into this industry should simply start off writing undergraduate projects for ESL clients. Just don't take projects from NES clients, especially without fully disclosing to them, in advance, that English isn't your primary language. Your NES clients will realize that for themselves as soon as they read your work; so just avoid problems and accusations by being honest about your language skills up front.

It is best to not work for writing companies to avoid fines and other forms of penalty per order. When anybody asks me how to get started with paid writing. I tell them follow the simplest way. Sign up for a free blogsite, write about what you know. promote the heck out of it (paying for the advertising if needed at first), then post a link for donations to Paypal.You'd be surprised at how fast that generates income once the blog is well promoted. Sites like Blogspot and Wordpress make it a bit difficult to accomplish that though. Patreon is the best way to go, if you really have the talent for writing and aren't afraid to step out of your academic writing comfort zone.