4writers.net scam or not ?

No, we don't. We follow the rules. You appear quite unaware of their existence.


No, I am considering the customer; the person whose money the company took and whose grade is on the line.


Please check the meaning of humanism.


Please look up this word.


Possessive of what?

I did not argue with your assessment of the company as I've no first-hand experience (thanking my lucky stars). What I said was: if this company hired you as a writer, they cannot be good. They hired you to write papers in English - a language which you have a very troubling relationship with.

Is this English?

How about this:


I realise it was your `word of the day' but ...

Please allow me to clarify my position: if your English is not better than that of the average native speaker, you should not work as a writer. This holds true for all nationalities, whether British or Pakistani. If not better than the average - stay out.

I realise that you have to make a living/supplement your income and you have every right to do so. But, why not work as something other than a writer? There are numerous other opportunities ...

Referring to WB's quote - pls explain how `soft, interpersonal, technical skills' are supposed to help the poor sod who paid for a well-researched paper.

by saying that 4writers.net is a legitimate company, you must be day dreaming or out of your senses. I could not have proceeded and filed a case against them to IC3. 4writers.net is a scam site and nothing better than that.

There is probability roverofrage is part of them hired to spam with his posts that are good for nothing. If there is nothing to say just keep off this space.

4WRITERS.NET IS A SCAM SITE.

4writers is screwing writers,i found that almost all writers based in kenya have not been paid their january salary,they were promised to receive their pay 19-22 of january,i would like to know any individual who is getting orders from this firm. i suspect this company could end up being a fraund,they are milking writers,it should be investigated including its associate firms.is there any one who can stand and say 4writers are genuine guys.tell them to pay writers.

kiteboy, its not January salary, but December salary. They are not going away with it, i will amke sure they are out of business, i have gathered all the information about their websites, their hosting company, owners information as well as their merchants service providers. I have forwarded all these to IC3 and the investigation is underway. I have an uncle working with cyber crime investigation firm in the US.

They have sent a message claiming they sent my money yesterday and told me to contact Paul who never responds to emails. They will learn a lesson. They have sent the following message to me;

contact

Anthony,

I was sure you'll get you money yesterday. contact Paul.

Admin
They have to learn a lesson and pay all their writers. Am fighting for all writers.
I count on your support to bring down all scam websites.

why is 4writers taking writers for granted...is this not we can call neo-slavery....,the owners of this website should be sued at the international criminal court,why should they keep on misusing other people. in principal,there acts can only be classified as slavery....work...work and no payment......i am of opinion that this guy Paul should be sued.how many innocent lives is he subjecting to pain and poverty while others are wallowing in jail due to the debts they incurred while writing for 4writers.....it is sad,this is intellectual terrorism and he should be subjected to face justice.....rest he forgets.. can he pay the writers or we mobilize the masses and see where he will take refuge...

a cohort of Paul(4writers),stop white washing...

Tonny - whomever you are, keep it up! Good work, honestly. There is absolutely no reason why any should just `take it.' Writers denied their rightful wages should take a stand.

Thanks WRT. I have already mobilized a group of writers who have been scammed. I have forwarded their invoices to IC3. The promised to do their best and collaborate with Ukrainian government to halt these exam mills websites. Kucheruk (Paul) thinks he is smart, but unfortunately, he is getting screwed soon. I have also given the list of websites associated to him and i will write blogs against these sites, in case any student want to buy essay from them before they are brought down.

I will not rest till they are down to zero. I want to see how much he can do about it.
We need to take action against these scam sites, and am paving the way. I have written to google and asked them to investigate the issue and am waiting for their response. I hope it will be a handsome lesson to other companies.

Exactly! Some type of regulation/oversight is imperative. The industry has earned a horrid reputation because of their activities. They lie about their location, about their writers' qualifications and about who they are. They refuse customer refunds, even if the work is plagiarised, and do not pay their writers the peanuts they were promised.

I realise that some of them excuse their refusal to pay their writers by (often correctly) claiming that the work submitted was horrid. From my point of view, these companies hired writers who are neither academically qualified nor capable of writing a coherent sentence in English. They even assigned them orders and did so knowing that the writers would probably produce low-quality work. Hence, they have no right to refuse payment.

one of their website is on sieve now 'gogetessay' and they will shocked to realize how much am capable of doing, i have a support of my sister, and some other writers who have been scammed, i never knew there some students complaining of paying they never got their papers or did not meet all requirements. They have forwarded their complains and am using all these as evidence to IC3. Pevlo Kucheruk thinks scamming is getting rich quick, he is wrong and he days in business are counted.

I will make sure his 6 websites are down to earth. I have advised a student to file a complain to IC3 for having paid for a paper he never received. Pure scam, pure judgment and best consequence.

Excellent!

i was able to send 821 emails advising students not to order from these websites. I will be broadcasting more tomorrow. If Kucheruk thinks he can beat us, lets see!!. He better pay us before he is messed more. I wont stop till justice is found.

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Certainly a noble cause

"Anthony," stop your trolling act. It's tired, and we've all seen it a million times.

better mind your own business

I would never want to enter into conversation with you (now assume I do not dare to)
You are barely a human who cannot respect the fellow beings.

sometimes it beats logic to think of a fellow being behaving like sadist,while milking defenseless students and powerless writers of their sweat. This essay insanity should be brought to a halt. For instance,4writers.net is one of such outfits under a guy by name Paul who are exploiting writers. it should be known that writers are human too,and this guy whoever he is should be treated like a terrorist,he is a merchant of intellectual terrorism. is there no international body that can handle the cases of intellectual exploitation?....am disgusted due to the fact that,4writers are destroying innocent lives...can you imagine your son or daughter being expelled from university due to acts of plagiarism or substandard work...what of writers who are crying day in day out due to THIS FIRMS ACTS of academic gambling...who ever is willing join me and we sacrifice ourselves and save the universe from from the likes of the Paul the exploiter. As am writing this a friend of mine is facing imprisonment after he failed to pay his debts and he was writing for 4writers.net,they promised to release his funds on time and he made a promise to others who thinks that he was paid and declined to clear his debts....its a shame.......Paul...you will hide but you will never run away from the truth a day you shall stand before me....and the sad thing is.....will you manage to swindle the law.....law is an ass boy...

Take a hike, spammer.

You do not even deserve my comments, dear

Some buglers always remain buglers. They work for themselves and promote their business concerns!!!!! I think this forum is not for promoting a specific agenda. This is for open discussion which should be authentic, however, its stigma!!!!

Rover - Your post makes no sense at all. This is not English; it has nothing to do with English.

Is someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to act stupid?

Indeed, I do not deserve the textual equivalent of Chinese water torture.

that was indeed funny

I'll be here all week . . . .

My posts need sense which is actually not possessed by many!!!! Sentence is not only about words or English its about sense. Please understand the sense in everyone's way of expression. However, it needs sense which is not possessed by many!!!!!!

i never thought as a writer i could be exploited and be exposed as undisciplined harlot and that is what 4writers have done to me,it is important to realize that,stealing is an art and 4writers have mastered this art to their advantage.....watch out before you join their bandwagon of slaves

A tip to most of the writers in this thread (if you're not sure whether or not I mean you, I do): Companies that hire you to write papers in English for English-speaking students at English-speaking universities are guaranteed to be scams. None of you can write in a way that clearly expresses your intent or meaning in the English language. This means the company is already willing to cheat their customers; why would they care about cheating you?

Love it! :)

An advice to you I mean you my dear friend! Without realistic justification never state anything. If I say that customer is happy, I am happy and my company is happy. Would you believe or not. I am sure that you defiantly don't believe because you're working on a defined agenda. You are on job guys. No problem at all do your job after all its your bread and butter!!!! But, I am happy with my company, my customers are happy with my work and my company is paying me on time. Then who are you to question and why I listen to you!!!!!

mmmmmm, the same way as usual

Is that Klingon?

I thought it was Mandalorian:

rover, if your customers are happy with you then they are probably also ESL students who don't realize the number of mistakes and comprehension difficulties your writing contains. Or maybe you're honest with your customers, and tell them that you aren't fully fluent in English and will write them a paper full of errors and meaningless phrases, and they decide to hire you anyway. i don't know.

What I DO know is that a legitimate company that offers university quality academic papers written in English to its customers would never hire you, because your skills are not up to par. I'm not "on job" when I say this, it's a simple fact. I am absolutely positive you speak your native language better than I do, but I'm not offering anybody papers in any other languages.

Bravo! I, too, am quite positive that I could not hold a candle to rover if I ever attempted to write, professionally, in his/her native language. Alas, that would never happen, as my moral compass would never allow me to attempt such a dishonest, deceptive practice.

4writers.net is definitely not a scam. I've been looking for a well paid job for a long time and this company has provided me with one. The secret of being a successful employee is pretty simple. Do your job diligently and there is no doubt that you will be treated according to your merits!

I've been working for them for a year, and had no problems with the payment. Of course, 4writers penalize their employees for submitting plagiarized papers written in poor English. I've experienced it, too. However, now I go for quality of my papers rather than quantity, and I do receive my salary. Empty complaints, no matter how bitter, will not do you any good. Remember you must work hard to make decent money.

Probably not "employees"; rather, contractual writers. And penalizing writers sucks.

I've been working for this company for a long period of time and I don't agree with you. I think sometimes we deserve penalizing as it stimulates us work harder and improve our knowledge. I got penalties from them a few times but that was only fair. And now I strive to make every effort to receive full salary without any penalties by submitting top-notch papers.

Dare to dream, I say.

haha, "Vanessa." I remember this company from "Vanessa's" tone. welcome to getting robbed by your employer.