CNN doing a good job, bestessays.com got an "F"

Yeah, EW sure is winning the argument-NOT!


I couldn't have typed it better myself, although I have typed the exact same message, in different words, countless times.


Tada! Guys, let's not hit EW with too many facts at once.


Wrong. Deceit is at the core of the majority of FOREIGN companies that have infested the American research industry since 2003. EW_writer and his cronies have, for years, been unable to provide any evidence whatsoever that certain, American companies engage in any sort of fraud, yet the tricksters continue to make the same, tired, long-disproved claims that "all" sites are fraudulent in order to level the moral playing field.


Hey, EW_writer, please:

1. quote a post in which I have typed the blanket statement that "foreign writers are criminals";

2. quote a post in which I have typed the blanket statement that "all offshore sites are fraudulent."

If you fail to do so, you will prove to everyone, once and for all, that you are a lying, spinning scumbag whose only purpose is to protect the crooked interests of Yuri at all costs, with utter disregard for truth.

Learn to read, a**hole.


You call me and every other writer who admits working for essaywriters.net a criminal, and THAT shows everyone here how desperate you are in taking down competition that has acquired a significant share of the market.

Oh, and how you cling on to other people's words reminds me of a National Geographic episode I watched on leeches. ^_^

Wrong, as usual. Every writer who knowingly takes part in EssayWriters.net's calculated fraud campaign is a criminal. In legal terminology, a person like you is an accessory to the crimes of EssayWriters.net. That is a FACT, not a biased assertion. (One's personal circumstances do not justify one's involvement in crime, so please don't hit us with that lame excuse again.)

F?*k you. Writing for essaywriters.net DOES NOT make us criminals even if we know that they're lying about where they are located. We're not criminals, we're just really good competition. :D

Anyone else here wanna call people who work for foreign sites that advertise as American sites criminals? C'mon, let's hear it.

<---professional accessory

listen, I've done a lot worse... for American companies, too.

The truth hurts. You're a liar, fraudfeasor, and criminal.


LOL, I love how you try to gain support against me by deceptively trying to make it seem as though I'm just picking on poor, innocent writers like you because, after all, falsely advertising as "American" is your employer's only crime. Nice try. Would you like me to post a partial list of the extensive, ongoing crimes of EssayWriters.net (Universal Research) for everyone's reference?

Lies hurt too so again, fu*- you. You call us criminals as a cheap way to ward off customers. While I don't think that works (since I actually get more direct clients from just talking to you and proving that I'm your better), I also don't think that any person would appreciate being called a criminal when he or she isn't one.


Hahaha:




Who's trying to gain support again? :) You're just so pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

Again, I extend the question to all other members of this board, especially the ones who I often disagree with. Are the people who write for foreign sites that advertise as American sites criminals?

I don't know how often we disagree, though we certainly disagree with the key issue in this thread (or what has become the key issue, at least). That being said, I do not think I would label you as criminal for this fact alone. Of course, I don't have a law degree, and I'm too tired right now to look up the relevant laws (which might be irrelevant in your country, anyway), so WB could be right in saying that you are technically an accessory to fraud. If that is the case, then you are criminal just as you implied American writers are criminal earlier in this thread (by the very fact that several states have made essay writing illegal). But if I were in your situation (i.e. a good writer who can't get hired by legitimate sites because of your country of origin/residence), I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing.

HOWEVER, this does not justify the actions of the companies you right for. As I said before, I don;t seen any extra ethical issues in your writing English essays simply because English is your second language, but these companies generally provide an inferior product (your own efforts excluded, of course), and the fact remains that they LIE in order to attract customers--about where they are located, who they hire, how long they've been in business, etc. This is plain wrong.

On a side not, I beg everyone t ignore any typos. I had three hours of sleep last night and just spent fourteen straight hours (no exaggeration) helping my mother-in-law move. I fixed the ones I found, but I can;t say that I looked very hard.

What does it say about me that this is where I come to unwind?

Nice use of selective quoting, as usual. You always manage to ignore everything of substance in order to distract with meaningless, personal commentary. For the record, here's the entire quote:



EW, why do you keep asking people that intentionally skewed, grossly oversimplified question when I have already clarified, multiple times, EXACTLY what I do and do not mean? Oh, that's right-you have to maintain the inflammatory, race-baiting smokescreen because without it, you're screwed.


Pheelyks, that is actually a falsehood that CNN perpetuated (albeit accidentally, I'm sure) and EW_writer is now ignorantly championing because he thinks that it benefits his argument that ALL owners of ALL sites are criminals. I have offered to prove him wrong by actually quoting the laws, but he won't accept my challenge, as usual. He doesn't have the balls to say, "I stand by my legal claims." Why? Because he knows that I will absolutely bury him. Have you noticed that he never commits? At least I stick by my guns and PROVE my claims. More importantly, I don't make claims unless I know, in advance, that I can prove them.

Oh sure.. when things don't go your way, they're "falsehoods." :) As for the rest of your "legal claims," put a sock in them. It's the same stuff over and over again, all meant to convince clients against patronizing foreign sites. The CNN report clearly shows that all such efforts are futile. Like it or not, we have infiltrated the American market and we're here to stay. :p

I don't have a law degree as well but I'm reasonably confident that my being a writer for ew does not make me an accessory to any fraud. If people would care to point out existing laws to the contrary, I invite them to go right ahead.


Actually, my statement implied that all essay mills (not just American ones) are liable to the laws against selling homework that do exist in many states (one actual law has been referenced by humble somewhere in this message board).


Thanks.


I'm actually cool with all that. If I could get them to change their highly oppressive and unfair business model, I would. Heck, I've tried so many times before already. One time I even brought up that it may be a good move for them to take out the "All-American" guarantees from their feeder sites to make them look more transparent. They simply denied to me that their feeder sites had any such "All-American" guarantees. Aside from that, I'm actually doing a lot less work for them nowadays than I used to in previous years because I've found other foreign sites that also pay well. My only point here really is that people shouldn't shoot their mouths off at foreign writers and call them criminals just because they work for sites like ew. While such a cretin exists in this board, I won't stop making life a living hell for it. ^__^


I know what you mean. >.<

Don't go my way? This argument is headed in one direction, and you're in the rear view mirror. The fact that you actually think you're winning this argument is a testament to your delusional and desperate state of mind.

Following are critical excerpts from the applicable law in five prominent and legally influential states. Keep in mind, too, that for a person/company/seller to be found guilty under any of the following or similar state laws, the state must prove-beyond a reasonable doubt-that the person/company/seller knows, was outwardly informed by the customer, or has reason to believe that the customer intends to submit the person's/company's/seller's copyrighted research material for academic credit-under the customer's name-without proper attribution of the material's source.

California
codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/EDC/3/d5/40/6/s66405

As used in this chapter, "prepare" means to put into condition for intended use. "Prepare" does not include the mere typing or assembling of papers, nor the mere furnishing of information or research.

Connecticut
legaltips.org/connecticut/Chap949b.aspx#Sec53-392b.aspx

Nothing contained in this chapter shall prevent any person from providing tutorial assistance, research material, information or other assistance to persons enrolled in a university, college, academy, school or other educational institution which is chartered, incorporated, licensed, registered or supervised by this state, which is not intended for submission directly or in substantial part as an assignment under the student's name to such educational institution in fulfillment of the requirements for a degree, diploma, certificate or course of study or to prevent any person from rendering for a fee services which include the typing, research, assembling, transcription, reproduction or editing of a manuscript or other assignment which he has not prepared at the request of or on behalf of the purchaser.

Florida
law.onecle.com/florida/crimes/877.17.html

This section shall not prevent any person or educational institution from providing tutorial assistance, research material, information, or courses in research or writing unless this service includes the preparation, research, or writing of a report or paper as outlined in subsection (1). No person shall be prevented by this section from selling or offering to sell services which include the typing, assembling, transcription, reproduction, or editing of a manuscript or other assignment prepared by the purchaser.

New Jersey
law.justia.com/newjersey/codes/7353/735b.html

Nothing contained in this section shall prevent any person from providing tutorial assistance, research material, information or other assistance to persons enrolled in a university, college, academy, school or other educational institution, which is not intended for submission directly or in substantial part as an assignment under the student's name to such educational institution in fulfillment of the requirements for a degree, diploma, certificate or course of study. Nor shall any person be prevented by this act from rendering services for a fee which include the typing, research, assembling, transcription, reproduction or editing of a manuscript or other assignment which he has not prepared at the request of or on behalf of the purchaser.

New York
law.onecle.com/new-york/education/EDN0213-B_213-B.html

Nothing contained within this section shall prevent any person from selling or offering for sale a publication or other written material which shall have been registered under the United States laws of copyright, provided, however, that the owner of such copyright shall have given his authorization or approval for such sale and provided further that such publication or other written material shall not be intended for submission as a dissertation, thesis, term paper, essay, report or other written assignment to such educational institution within the state of New York in fulfillment of the requirements for a degree, diploma, certificate or course of study.



Thank you, EW_writer, for highlighting yet another one of essaywriters.net's illegal practices. I'll add it to the list.

Even the people who write for ET admit that clients use their work for credit so your posts as usual, mean nothing relevant.

Hey but if you insist, then we should all warn students against ordering from ET and all the other companies that supposedly don't sell them papers that they can turn in for credit. At the very least, students should be made aware in this forum that they're not supposed to submit papers that they buy from ET as their own. See how double-edged that sword is? :p

Embarrassingly defeated in his argument that all owners of all essay sites are criminals, the crook defaults to his true passion and ulterior purpose in this forum: defaming and unfairly competing against his competitor.

O.o err... are you nuts? o.O My true passion is pummeling you senseless in every senseless argument that you make which is exactly what I've just done, AGAIN. ^_^

Also, I never said that I was retracting my claim that essay mills are indeed breaking the law in many states by selling homework to students. I was only stating that IF that was not the case for American companies, then students should not buy from them at all. Why buy from a company that DOES NOT allow you to turn in what you bought for credit? That's what you bought the stuff for in the first place!

Members, please cast your vote for whom you honestly think won the debate. Please also provide the reasoning behind your vote.

C'mon, I know that you guys don't necessarily want to get involved, but you've got to have an opinion on the debate that started here. I put a great deal of time and effort into the research, so please provide some feedback.

Okay - can identify two debates here:
1) Best Essays is dishonest: I really do not see any point to the debate. The company lies about the nationality and qualifications of its writers; provides clients (unless their orders are picked up by one of the few good writers there) with abysmal quality; posts an absolutely fake address on its website; does not satisfy its guarantees; conceals its nationality and ownership; fines writers; delays writers' salaries; pays writers a shockingly meagre percentage of what the company gets per order; simply does not run a clean show. So, what is there to debate? ANY COMPANY WHICH LIES ABOUT THE AFOREMENTIONED IS FRAUDULENT! ANY COMPANY WHICH PAYS WRITERS 4-5$ PER PAGE OF GRADUATE RESEARCH IS @#$%&. Dishonest is dishonest - no two ways about it ...

2) Writers who work for EW, A-R, etc are criminals: I disagree. Some are highly qualified and, unfortunately, are being discriminated against. Due to either nationality or geographic location, their applications are rejected by what we call the "legitimate" companies. They are left with no choice at all. I doubt that any of them (I am referring to the truly qualified ones and not the multitudes whose hands should be severed for ever daring to write in English) enjoy the working conditions they are subjected to - fines, low wages, delays in payments, etc. Unfortunately, they really do not believe that they have anywhere else to go and many need the money. So, I believe they are victims ....

Thanks for the feedback, OR.


I also disagree. However, that's not at all my contention. I contend, specifically, that an unqualified, ESL writer who is aware that the "company" intentionally misrepresents his/her location, skills, and experience is a willing accessory to the calculated fraud campaign and crimes of that company. Remember, as has been communicated by different members in this forum, most writers (ESL or EFL) who initially accept employment with these scamming companies do not realize that

a. they will be writing essays for students;

b. that the companies intentionally misrepresent writers' location, skills, and experience.

Once a writer becomes aware of the fraud in which he/she has been unwittingly participating, that writer has the legal obligation to do one or more of the following things:

1. immediately quit;

2. demand that the employer stop misrepresenting his/her qualifications (if the employer refuses, then quit);

3. report the crimes to Federal authorities (in many circumstances, an employee is legally obligated to report any Federal crime of which he/she becomes aware, regardless of any potentially negative impact on his/her state of employment; if the employee looks the other way, he/she may be considered an accessory and be prosecuted as such).

Indeed, in some cases of online fraud, ignorance is not a legal defense. For example:

. . . the hapless agent [writer] is now an accessory to serious criminal activity and may ultimately be charged accordingly. Effectively, the agent [writer] becomes a 'mule' to be used at will by the criminals responsible.

SOURCE: scamguard.typepad.com/the_scam_guard/payment-transfer-job-scam-emails/

I didnt catch this on CNN but will look it up now.

While maintaining that the writers are not criminals (the good ones, the qualified ones are not; the others ....), I do believe that `yes,' they should look for an alternative. More than anyone, they know just how dishonest these companies are and they are victimised almost as much as the customers are - yet, they hang on. I can only assume that it is out of pressing economic need and failure to find work elsewhere.


Yes - according to the letter of the law, that is true.


I did because I have the luxury of economic security ... many don't. That is the sad thing. EW, A-R, etc know this and are really making the most of it.


They would only be aware of their legal duties and basic rights if they were based in the UK, US or EU (Canada, etc). What would a writer in Kenya, Zimbabwe, etc know? They really select their writers, WB, and do not disclose their real location just in case one of them does decide to report them. In most cases, the writers are not even privy to the names of the company's client-end websites! These companies are in a different category ... typical criminal-slippery. Did you read IvyR's posts? UNDISCLOSED LOCATION ... she actually said that they do not disclose their location!

At the end of the day, the fact is that these websites only have a handful of qualified writers - A HANDFUL - and they, whether sooner or later, eventually leave. The majority of their writers will not leave because they are SIMPLY UNEMPLOYABLE; they are paid $4-6 per page and that is $4-6 more than they are worth :)

If there was such a debate, I wasn't a part of it. I never claimed that bestessays is an honest company. >.<


That's what I'm talking about.


Exactly, which proves that you have utterly no right to call me a criminal.

Where's the debate, again? ^_^

Are you serious?


1. You fight tooth-and-nail, every day, trying to defend the indefensible, illegal activities of your employer.

2. You constantly and falsely assert that "all" other companies are "just as fraudulent" as your employer (BestEssays.com) in order to convince would-be victims to do business with that ripoff company (EssayWriters.net / Universal Research) because it funnels dirty money into your pockets. Plus, your activities in support and defense of EssayWriters.net cause countless victims to fall prey to the vast majority of EssayWriters.net's other writers who are significantly less skilled than you. Therefore, you are both a co-conspirator and a willing accessory to the company's crimes for personal profit, with utter disregard for the general welfare of others.

3. You have openly admitted that you intentionally misrepresent yourself to potential clients at EB.

Someone seriously needs to take a course on semantic logic. ^_^

Btw, it's EW_writer-1, WB-0 on the debate of whether or not competent ESL writers who work for sites like EW or AR are criminals. Plus if we count your vote based on the quoted statement above, that would make EW_writer-2, WB-0 with you actually voting against yourself. >.< Funny, isn't it? :D I hope you don't mind my keeping count but you did ask for it. ^_^

Did you not take note of the bold words in my quote? Geez, do I have to spoon-feed you? Due to your ongoing activities, you fall into a legal category outside that of the average writer from EssayWriters.net. Your skill-level is irrelevant; your legal culpability is what makes you a criminal by legal definition. That's a fact.


LOL! Please quote a post in which I state that qualified, ESL writers who are unaware of their employer's illegal activities are criminals. (Regardless, it is a fact that ignorance is often not an acceptable excuse in a court of law.)

By the way, how does it feel to know that the only person who truly shares your twisted positions in these debates is chacha?

Like I said.


I'd love to explain the simple lessons of the course to you and how your previous posts show how much of an idiot you are, but those lessons don't come free and the latter is pretty evident to everyone reading this thread.


Haha! Now you're trying to gain support from other people here who are against chacha by making it appear to them that I'm with that essay restaurateur. Don't you think that you're seriously undermining the intelligence of the people that you're trying to get on your side? Pathetic.

EW_writer-2
WB-0

^___^

LOL! All type, no substance. Care to name someone who is honestly on your side?


Once again, my statements regarding the skill-level and legal culpability of EssayWriters.net's writers, in general, do NOT apply to you. Get it? I always have and always will maintain that you are a criminal. Your ongoing activities-in this forum and elsewhere-in support of EssayWriters.net's illegal practices seal your fate in the eyes of the law.

I gotta take some shuteye. I hope that more people vote so that we can at least make it clear that competent ESL writers who work for EW, AR or any other company are not criminals even if they read this forum and are aware of the proofs posted here against their respective employer/s. Good night folks. ^_^

God.. you get one opinion that doesn't agree with you and you go ballistic. >.< What's wrong with you? >.<


Your statements mean what you want them to mean, and you change what you want them to mean when you need to. It's sad but that's who you are, WB. We all know it. Now, why don't you keep your crappy opinions and let the good people here vote on the matter that you asked them to vote on? ^_^ Oh, and goodnight to you too. :p

Quote me, liar. I changed nothing. I made a statement that applies to EW's writers, in general, not to YOU. Don't believe me? Ask OR what I meant and what she gathered. Why don't you also quote what is in black and white in my original post? Believe me, when I mean to direct a post to you, I leave little doubt. I think that it's pretty damn clear to everyone by now that I classify you in a completely separate category. Your role extends far beyond that of EW's average writer; you're an agent and active co-conspirator.


Really? Who is "we"? Show some balls and name names. Does your "we" include widely respected members like OR, pheelyks, or FreelanceWriter?


"Ballistic"? LOL! You're delusional. Stop putting words in people's mouths. Ask OR if she thinks that I went ballistic. We had a perfectly civil exchange in which I issued a clarification that I think is very much relevant in helping her to accurately shape her ultimate opinion. I didn't want her to post a final opinion based on your intentional misquoting.

Unqualified academic writers (in general - regardless of the company), are dishonest. They do not have the requisite academic qualifications, yet lead customers to assume that they do; they cannot write a proper sentence in English (even if their lives depended on it) but sell their `skills' as English-language writers. What is honest about that? Would any go to a `doctor' who knows nothing about medicine? Same thing - selling skills they do not possess while leading customers to believe that they do.

Qualified ESL writers - not criminals. They are trying to make the best of a bad situation - not offered any real opportunities with the legits and, therefore, go through any open doors.

Native, qualified writers who work with A-R, etc. Plain stupid and ACCOMPLICES. I was one of them and am speaking about myself. Even though I was an active freelancer with a couple of legits, I still worked with A-R for 2 years (completing over 700 orders). Do I have an excuse? No, I don't. Was I an accomplice? Certainly was. Did I help promote their fraud? Yes I did.

OR, I get what you're typing, but my point is that, by legal definition, they are criminals and co-conspirators if they are aware of the ongoing misrepresentation/fraud/crime and choose to look the other way. One's "personal circumstances" or "available opportunities" carry little weight in a court of law when attempting to justify one's crimes. One cannot stand before a judge and expect to be acquitted by saying, "Sure, you caught me red-handed, but I'm not guilty of stealing because I've been given no opportunities." That's akin to a privileged guy saying, "I'm not guilty of taking advantage of people, including my employees, because that's all I've ever known."

As I said earlier, the law is clear - you are right. This was just my opinion. The law, however, imposes a certain obligation upon employees/service contractors/freelancer - if the company is fraudulent and you have knowledge of that but continue to work with them anyways, you become an accomplice.

I would just like to get something off my chest. I hope you guys don't mind. This is, indeed, an amusing and informative forum. I'm sure that someone can relate to what I have to say.

I believe that, in the "Constitutions" of countries like the USA and the Philippines, proper education is a basic human right. Depriving students of this is actually a human rights violation. When we do students' homeworks or exams for them, we deprive them of the ability to learn properly. This, to me, is tantamount to depriving them of their education. It seems to me that by doing this, we have not only broken the law, but we have also committed crime against the "Constitution".

EW operates in the USA, Ukraine and the Philippines. All these countries contain this basic right in their "Constitutions" (I am not sure about the other countries). To me, this says that EW is committing a crime; and if I knowingly participate in it, I am a criminal too.

Guys, this is simply my opinion. I am no expert. However, I live by my conscience. My dad once told me that if it smells like a duck, moves like a duck and looks like a duck, it probably is a duck. I could be wrong. Maybe EW is actually legit. I don't know. Still... I don't feel right about it. So, it would be better for me to leave before I find out that I'm right. In fact, thanks to WritersBeware, I have already taken the first step towards that direction.

Thank you again for allowing me to air my views.

Good day to all!

You are a wonderfully civilised person and I, for one, truly appreciate your posts :) I do, however, disagree with you on a fundamental issue:


We provide models. Some of us very very clearly (in large print) advise students NOT TO SUBMIT the work as their own. In so doing, they would not only be misusing our services and violating their institution's academic integrity policy but, they would be CHEATING THEMSELVES. Research work provided is supposed to be used as a model. Students can use the same sources we have, the same argument and structure. They, however, have to rewrite it in theor own words and, importantly, add their voice to it ... include class lecture material, etc. We do not sell homework - we provide academic research assistancy services.

I am not naive - I know, and have no doubt, that many customers ignore our policy ... They are the ones violating the law, not us. We sell a legitimate service, to be used for a legitimate purpose. Our services are legal. How students ultimately use the material we provide is something we cannot control :)

Yeah, sure. ^_^ FreelanceWriter, pheelyks, and OR, do you think that WB is right in calling me and other competent ESL writers who work for ew and ar as freelance writers, criminals? Wait, OR already gave her answer (no, right?), so that leaves pheelyks and FreelanceWriter. Well?


All companies are guilty of this, not just ew. If we consider this a criminal offense then we are all criminals.

I've been in jail for three years now. the food sucks and everyone is an *******. it sure is lonely here in the big house. I have a plan to bust loose, though-- I got this rock hammer, and every day...

You're a riot. >.<

To OxbridgeResearchers and EW_writer,

I like your point. Perhaps I was too hasty in judging the kind of service we provide. In my judgement, I may have "thrown the baby out with the bathwater".

However, I don't regret leaving EW. They just didn't feel right to me.

Thank you...

Boom

Cool. Let us know if that "direction" that you say WB led you to went anywhere. :)

You should not regret it. It was a good decision. You are a capable writer and you know that they are not forthright.


By no means are they remotely `right.' :)

Rusty, if you ever get out, there's this rock up in a Maine hayfield that has no business being in a Maine hayfield. Dig it up.

P.S. It's the field with a tree in it (that part always bugged me).

WRONG.

Your twisted questioning is as transparent as glass. Everyone can see that you continue to shape your questions and skew my positions.

1. You serve as an agent of EW. In the eyes of the law, you are not just a "freelance writer."

2. When I refer to EW writers, in general, I am NOT referring to you.

3. This is not a matter of whether or not I am "right." Can't you get that through your thick skull? What I am stating here is legal fact, which OR already acknowledged (not because she is necessarily "on my side" across the board, but because she-unlike you-knows and respects the law of the land):


So, allow me to clarify yet again: "competent ESL writers who work for essaywriters.net and Academia-Research.com" are not certain criminals in the eyes of the law until after they become aware of the companies' fraud and knowingly continue to promote and enable the companies' illegal practices. (However, in many cases, ignorance is not an acceptable legal defense in a court of law.)