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OLD writing services - no guarantee of quality?


Joseph  1 | 3  
Feb 26, 2009 | #1
* Aftab Dhanani
* Allyson Holland Writer
* Joseph

wrote:


My experience says that it is NOT necessary that old writing services are good. I think that old writing services can many times be worst. Age of the website is not the criteria of judging the quality.

Also the amount of money the company charges is no guarantee of the company. Sometimes the company charging very high amount are not at all good.

Hope this help.
Aftab Dhanani  - | 7  
Feb 26, 2009 | #2
I want to add a note to this and that is:
"Indian writers don't write well"- This statement is wrong.
I am a writer from India and my writings have always been appreciated.
I have my own website and I offer essay writing services worldwide.
I will not mention the URL here because WB thinks it is incorrect though she has broken this rule several times.
Coming to my point, "Indian writers are good and brainy."
And Indian companies are also LEGIT many times.
I know WB will now shout at me with the same username or a different one.
But I still thought of mentioning here that Indian writers are sometimes really good.
OP Joseph  1 | 3  
Feb 26, 2009 | #3
Are you sure of this Aftaba?
Do you really mean the Indian companies are good too?
I was given few names of UK based companies and they didn't solve my purpose.
Can I really trust an Indian writer?
I am confused by your idea.
Can you guide me more.
Aftab Dhanani  - | 7  
Feb 26, 2009 | #4
I will explain you how it works.
Every research paper has it main focus on:
- Technical content
The technical part of the paper can be written best by those who have sound technical writing knowledge.
Will you like someone with PHD in English to write your MBA Dissertation?
No, you will prefer someone with knowledge in your own field.
Thus, technical knowledge is more important than English proficiency.
And good Indian writers are also good in English.
Hope this guides.
OP Joseph  1 | 3  
Feb 26, 2009 | #5
I understand your point.
But what if the person with very good technical knowledge is poor in English.
Just thought of asking this.
Aftab Dhanani  - | 7  
Feb 26, 2009 | #6
Tell me someone who is very good in technical knowledge can s/he be poor in English?
The education in Technical subjects is given only in English in India.
Those who are good in technical knowledge are good because they were good students.
Do you think that the good students of India will be poor in English?
I mean someone who is good in studies will certainly be good in English as well because the education is given in English.
Hope this guides.
OP Joseph  1 | 3  
Feb 26, 2009 | #7
I understand your point.
You have good insight on the subject.
Thanks for your sound help.
alice  1 | 61  
Feb 26, 2009 | #8
Aftab Dhanani,

There is just one problem with that. Yes, you need subject knowledge to write good quality, but knowledge taught is different in every country. In India students are taught in a different way than in UK, therefore quality, presentation, and the whole approach to work will be different. This is not what UK students require, therefore I STRONGLY SUGGEST to every UK STUDENT to order their essays or dissertation only from the companies that ONLY hire writers with UK EDUCATION.

Alice
Aftab Dhanani  - | 7  
Feb 26, 2009 | #9
Alice,
I have written several essays for UK students.
Before starting my own company I was working for a UK based company.
The students said that my work was brilliant.
The research papers published in International journals are many times written by Indian researchers.
If Indian writers cannot write for UK students then how can this be possible?
Hope this guides.
Aftab Dhanani

Alice
I have one more thing to mention:
More than 95% of the UK based companies hire Indian writers.
How do you ignore this fact?
Hope this guides.
Aftab Dhanani
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 26, 2009 | #10
Aftab, your posts are riddled with errors and awkward phrasing. Your command of the English language is certainly not bad but it would not pass for the vernacular in either the United States or the U.K.

Will you like someone with PHD in English to write your MBA Dissertation?

I would expect clients to want both: English language mastery and subject mastery.

More than 95% of the UK based companies hire Indian writers.

You have no evidence to back this up. None.

As an American writer, I wholeheartedly recommend U.K. students to seek aid from U.K. writers. In addition to the legal protections offered by domestic contract law, you'll have someone familiar with the language, citation styles, schools and formatting expected.
alice  1 | 61  
Feb 26, 2009 | #11
Dear Aftab Dhanani,

You are missing the point. I am not talking about ethnic origin - I am talking about writer having UK EDUCATION. There are around 1600000 Indian people in UK, so those of them who have UK EDUCATION can well write for UK STUDENTS.

And don't judge by one company that accepted you that every other will - this is not the case.
exwriter  3 | 250  
Feb 26, 2009 | #12
The research papers published in International journals are many times written by Indian researchers.

Your use of the English language is appalling. There are so many grammatical mistakes that correcting them would take an eternity. This proves that all your assertions about being able to write for UK students is false given that any UK university receiving such drivel would know that the person writing the essay was an ESL writer not an EFL one.

You are a poor representative of Indian writers since every post you have made has glaring mistakes that would make an EFL writer cringe.
Aftab Dhanani  - | 7  
Feb 26, 2009 | #13
I get my essays proof-read by a PHD person.
I am technically sound.
My essays have gained lot of appreciation from a UK based essay writing company.
One of my customer said, "Your work is brilliant".
I can even name that UK based essay writing company which hired me.
However, now I have my own essay writing company in India
My customers are very happy with my work.
My company is showing good profit.
I can even prove this.
alice  1 | 61  
Feb 26, 2009 | #14
Please name the company
WritersBeware  
Feb 26, 2009 | #15
Old WriterAs one can see in the first post, the moderator has indicated that the same, Indian FRAUD is posting with the following usernames:

Aftab Dhanani
Allyson Holland Writer
Joseph


What a pathetic piece of trash.

To all legitimate writers from India: this is why your reputation is what it is. Get your house in order.

Please allow me to school you, fraud.

My essays have gained lot of appreciation from a UK based essay writing company.

Error #1: missing an "a"

Error #2: missing the hyphen

Awkward: in writing, one doesn't "gain" appreciation; as usual, your word use is awkward and obviously ESL in nature; appreciation can be earned by (received by) or bestowed upon an individual

I can even name that UK based essay writing company which hired me.

Error #1: missing the hyphen

Error #2: "which" should be "that"

These are only a fraction of the remedial-level errors in your posts. Get a different day job.
vishkanya  1 | 29  
Feb 26, 2009 | #16
I would never hire an indian to write my essay. How can someone who comes from a country where the native language isn't even english write a good paper ??
Aftab Dhanani  - | 7  
Feb 27, 2009 | #17
I can prove my ability as an Indian writer.
I can show you the high quality of papers written by me.
Email me: ******@gmail
and I will give you the prove.
My company is Indian but it is equal to UK and USA companies in quality.
The most talented and intelligent brains of the world are Indian writers.
And I told you that the essays written by my company are proof-read by a person who is PHD in English.
WritersBeware  
Feb 27, 2009 | #18
I can show you the high quality of papers written by me.

Passive voice--terrible.

Email me

The moderator will delete your address, I'm sure.

I will give you the prove.

Pathetic.

My company is Indian but it is equal to UK and USA companies in quality.

Are you a comedian or just a J-A?

The most talented and intelligent brains of the world are Indian writers.

Really? Show me the money.

a person who is PHD in English

Again, pathetic.

I can writer better than anyone on your staff, including your "PhD person," while getting waterboarded.
vishkanya  1 | 29  
Feb 28, 2009 | #19
All pakistani and indian writers are useless. They just want your money. Dont ever hire them. They are scam artists. Think? There must be a reason why good essay companies dont employ them.
akuma  3 | 51  
Feb 28, 2009 | #20
When someone generalizes like above without giving a second thought to their post you know their advice is most likely useless.
humble  2 | 247  
Feb 28, 2009 | #21
akuma: true!

vishkanya: Your could have said "Most of Pak....."
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Dec 03, 2009 | #22

Is WritersBeware and his company trying to fool the public about his company's age? Or am I wrong?



ET has recently bought a few domains, including A1-TermPaper.com and 1-800-termpaper.com from an individual who had ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION with the company WriterBeware is in connection with (and which was established in 2001).

Now, WritersBeware and his staff created this web page: ET/1995.html and try to FOOL THE PUBLIC about the real age of their company in order to deceptively gain customers' trust. They claim:

We've Been Online Since 1995, Longer than Any of Our Competitors!

To give you some perspective on how long our company has been online, following are some significant events that also took place in 1995.

How to Independently Verify Our Company's Age (link to 1995 year again)

The above sentence suggest the main company (ie. ET*) was in existence since 1995, which is an utter lie.

UNLESS I'm wrong and a company has the legal right to claim they have existed more than they have actually existed as soon as they take over a similar and older company? But then, WB's claims that 'Site X didn't exist since 1997 because the domain was not registered until 2002' can be easily booted because they could rightfully claim one of their founders has started writing essays as an academic freelance writer in 1997 and that was in fact their original starting date?

Or Hyundai motor company (founded in 1947) could buy Ford (founded in 1903) and they could then legally advertise they are the oldest auto company maker in the world, founded in 1903?

What are opinions of the more knowledgeable individuals on this forum? :)

----

How do I know about all this? It's simple - the original owner of the domains sent the inquiry to buy the domains (A1-termpaper.com among others) to dozens of emails associated with 'essay writing'. I'm sure some of the essay writing company representatives visiting this forum have received a similar email. That email is the hard proof of my claims.

Btw. I'm pretty sure WB was the author of the web copy mentioned above. Check how 'knowledgeable' he is on the subject and the time line of his posts, it's not yet another coincidence, is it :)
dreamer  
Dec 04, 2009 | #23
Stu4, WB is a female.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
May 24, 2021 | #24
How can someone who comes from a country where the native language isn't even english write a good paper ??

Here lies the problem. The country is a former colony of the U.K. So, there Was a moment in time when their schools had an English based curriculum. This is evidenced by the abundance of exclusive English only schools throughout the country. The highly educated Indians are practically ENL users. Sadly, these people are not the ones hired for academic writing. The whole nation should not be judged based on a few bad eggs. There are those who can write more than just a decent paper. You just have to know where to find them.
noted  10 | 2064 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Oct 20, 2021 | #25
Age of the website is not the criteria of judging the quality.

This statement is not true. The age of a company can be the basis of the quality of work provided by its writers. Why? A company that does not provide good writing services, or writing of consistent quality will soon find itself at a loss for clients. They will not be able to bring in new students to the fold when word about their lack of writing quality spreads in the student community. Believe me, that sort of news spreads like wildfire. The long standing companies have good to excellent writing reputations, leading to more word of mouth referrals for them. The websites are there to help facilitate the business. Students know the kind of paper they will be getting from these traditional, not old, companies. The person who referred them to it is evidence of that.
The opinions are that of the author's alone based on an individual capacity. Opinions are provided "as is" and are not error-free.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 22, 2021 | #26
The amount of time that a website has been online doesn't (by itself) guarantee the quality of the work it provides; it merely provides some evidence that the company isn't an outright scam, because it's hard for scam companies to continue operating very long without changing identities. Even legit companies have many writers who are much worse than their better writers; so, the work they deliver to customers can vary quite substantially. I saw this firsthand when I was writing for one of the oldest legitimate online companies whenever I took projects that had to be re-ordered because the customer (quite rightfully, in my opinion) wasn't satisfied with the quality of the work but the company refused to redo them for free because, technically, they satisfied the original (objective) order specs. About the most that a company's long history of existence online actually guarantees is that you'll probably receive something rather than nothing at all for your money, that your money will be refunded if no writer ever takes your order (although usually long after your project's due date), and that the work you do receive will probably represent some writer's good-faith attempt at doing the project correctly. What it doesn't guarantee is that the quality of the work will satisfy your reasonable expectations.




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