We, the customers, want writers either take the money and do the job, or STFU

Can't believe I spent entire afternoon on this forum reading all kinds of tongue fightings, I have to admit this is quite entertaining...I'm an international student, speak broken english and write horrible essay, and that is why and how I got here, seeking for help. However, all I see is paid posters and internet marketers disparaging each other and being racist, instead of providing useful information for potential customers.

All I want to say is: I, or we, as customers, don't give a S who is with what company has what kind intimacy with whose parents. we'd like writers either take the $ and do the job, or STFU. Of course, s/he has to have proficient writing skill, and that is the only thing we care about. As a bystander, I won't pick anybody from "queen shabe" side, not because wether you guys are truly third-counrty writers, is because the sentences you guys wrote are worse, arguments are weaker, and most important, helplessly childish. wasn't everything too obvious? sigh

Just because YOU have no idea what goes on behind the scenes or how often writers gets ripped off doesn't mean that it's not important. It's important to me, even if it means nothing to people like you. I have had enough of this. It's the last straw and I refuse to take it any more.

OP, I agree. This site is here to expose scams, though, and that's what some of us try to do.

th63, your impotent whining was old a long time ago, and it's only older now. You still haven't siad exactly what you think was done to you other than "some company stole my money." How? What were the circumstances?

really? are you sure you wouldn't really like to go **** your mother?

The people who ripped me off know exactly what I'm talking about, and what I can do about it, although they are no longer willing to show up here. We shall see.....

Th - how would a 4 day old member know of your earlier complaints? I think that settles the question of identity, don't you?

How indeed?

In any case, I decided to not take anyone's money any more because after 5-6 years of doing this type of work, I really got sick of it all. That doesn't mean I am going to just STFU all the time, though. LOL.

That is why I have been saying all along. I cannot understand why the writers here would rather attack one another, or group together to fight a perceived common enemy, when everyone is in the same business. As such, they should be helping each other improve their craft, professionalize the business, and work together for the common good. Will we ever see such a day come? One can only hope.

@Cite: The common enemy in this industry is scam companies from countries that don't speak English, acting like they are legitimate operators in academic English ghostwriting just because they are criminals. The domestic criminals they have largely replaced at least spoke English as it is spoken in countries where it's the official language. As soon as you get that through your thick skull, you can serve the common good by exiting the industry, and doing something more suited to your own skills and talents.

This is a strident who clearly did not understand what this forum is about. The writers who run criminal based on criminal intent will do exactly what this student wants, and not deliver. The fake writers wish this would always be the case. This forum is the closest a student has come to in terms of making the criminal writer and company accountable for their actions. sometimes doing so requires bullying tactics. I agree though that some of them, specially the ones claiming to be legit, can get out of hand with their paranoia and accusations, leading to them blowing their own cover, and revealing the scam that they are as well, without any help. That is a type of career self harm that can only happen through regular interaction at this forum in the debate like manner the writers thrive in.