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Is poor essay quality a SCAM?


whacker1  3 | 2  
Jan 26, 2011 | #1
Hello, I'd just like to know how forum members judge an outfit to be a scam. I've used SuperiorPapers before, and they did delivery an essay based on my sources and specifications. However, it was pretty obvious the author was an ESL writer, and the quality of the work reflected a poor comprehension of the subject. It certainly wasn't written by someone with a Graduate degree. I paid for the essay to be proofread, but there were numerous "ESLisms" and sloppy punctuation. I had to submit it to another proofreading service just to ensure that it read as if it were produced by someone with English as their native language.

So, do you consider an operation to be a scam if the product is simply poor quality?
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Jan 26, 2011 | #2
Poor quality is not scam. Product delivered, you need to rewrite it to your instructions, and you're done.
WritersBeware  
Jan 26, 2011 | #3
Poor quality is not scam.

Spoken like a true criminal and con-artist . . . .

Poor quality is not scam. Product delivered, you need to rewrite it to your instructions, and you're done.

Translation: If you buy a brand new Toyota and it has a dead engine, all you have to do is fix it yourself (you know, since it's NOT a scam for Toyota to provide a broken, not-as-advertised product).
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Jan 26, 2011 | #4
Only a moron would buy a car with no check if it drives :- FYI. Car doesn't work on dead engine.
WritersBeware  
Jan 26, 2011 | #5
Only a moron would buy a car with no check if it drives

I personally had a new car delivered, via freight, from across the country. You wouldn't know such is possible, considering where you live.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Jan 26, 2011 | #6
I personally had a new car delivered, via freight, from across the country.

so you buy a junk, have it repaired and then call it a new car? let me guess you bought it in Florida after the hurricane / flood. It looks well outside, but inside it's junk.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Jan 26, 2011 | #7
Poor quality is not scam.

Let's not get caught up in semantics.

If you buy from a company that sells you crap:

1.) Get your money back.
2.) Expose the company in forums like this so that nobody will ever order from it again.
3.) Sue the company for selling you a product that is different from what they promised.

^____^
WritersBeware  
Jan 26, 2011 | #8
^____^

The car in question is a limited edition model that is NOT available anywhere on the West Coast, you fu**-n simpleton. It probably costs more than your house, if you have one, which I highly doubt.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Jan 26, 2011 | #9
No wonder it had to be delivered, by fright :: )

WBs limited edition car
smirk  - | 141  
Jan 27, 2011 | #10
this is called "double standard": dispatching a pack of dust instead of brazilian coffee is a crime, but delivering a senseless, plagiarized and ill-written paper instead of what was advertized is okay.

Only a moron would buy a car with no check if it drives

is this supposed to mean "don't buy anything online unless you wish to be ripped off"?
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Nov 17, 2017 | #11
Paper Quality CheckPersonally, I don't see how you can separate poor quality from a scam.

I believe that if a paper turned in is of poor quality, then the student got scammed by the company he hired or the writer he directly contracted for the job.

When a writer is hired for the job, the client expects that person to be highly knowledgeable about the topic indicated.

He is also expected to have impeccable writing skills which will allow the student to use the model paper without having to do any of the extra work that you mentioned.

Anytime a client has to go an extra mile to fix the paper that was paid for, a scam, in my opinion, occurred.

I don't understand why you had to hire an extra editor when you could have just sent the essay back to the company for revisions or reassignment / revised writing work.

That is part of the service.

That is, unless you knew you were paying for shabby service in the first place and just wanted to get your work completed on the cheap side.
Write Review  1 | 546 ☆☆  
Dec 08, 2018 | #12
Consider that the other academic writing companies promise to deliver the highest quality possible for the papers being ordered from them and then, when compared to the final product, the client sees that the paper is not really up to his expectations, let alone the highest quality possible and you will understand why a poorly written essay should definitely be considered a scam. If one orders a Rolls Royce and then gets a Hyundai delivered to him, then a mistake has been made. If repeated requests to receive the Rolls Royce doesn't produce the expected result, then the person who ordered the car has been scammed. The same can be said for students who end up with a poorly written paper after paying a premium price for it and being promised an A+ level paper. There is no way of sugar coating it, nor can one deny it. A scam is a scam.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 08, 2018 | #13
My clients and some of my most experienced legitimate competitors here who have known me for many years (such as Professor Verb and Research Pro) have referred to me as the best in this business, but not every project that I write is necessarily an A+ and I never promise that it will be. In my opinion, promising an A+ in the first place is a scam because grading is always subjective and anybody honest in this business understands why that is simply not a realistic promise. A company that advertises that all of its writers are NES (or that charges extra for the option of guaranteeing that a project will be written by a NES writer instead of an ESL writer) but then provides a project obviously written by an ESL writer could be fairly called a scam, as would any company that knows that its writers plagiarize or are incapable of producing work at the level reasonably expected.

However, nobody with any real experience in this business would ever suggest that a customer has been "scammed" just because he received a B on a complex project in a difficult course in a graduate school program that he outsourced to a writer who isn't in that program and hasn't had the benefit of attending any of the lectures of his professor. Likewise, there are various reasons that even a well-written project that is excellent in every objective sense might not do as well as expected. For example, sometimes, a customer provides nothing besides the essay prompt and the instructions for the assignment and receives a great essay only to have the professor complain that the essay is good but fails to address any of the major concepts discussed in the lectures or covered in the assigned readings. That's the fault of the customer for not providing the material that was supposed to have been reflected in the essay. Other times, professors might be very tough graders who just don't give out A grades. My father was one of them and I found that out from practicing with his university's hockey team when I was in high school: it turned out that my dad was known as "Dr. Hook" because he rarely gave out anything higher than a C. Luckily, he was also the main influence on my writing.
Timlieder  1 | 6     Freelance Writer
Dec 10, 2018 | #14
The paper mill companies tend to hire writers who are not necessarily the best of the bunch. They also have a poor relationship with many of their writers as they will start making excuses to not pay the more experienced writers. This means that the quality is not the best. The better term paper writers want the customer to be satisfied with the work because that means that the customer wants to come back for more work and the writer doesn't have to seek it out.

While there is no guarantee of grades (we don't know your teachers), we do try to get you grades in the B range - which means that we write well and know the subject enough to impress the teacher. Sometimes a B is better than an A, especially if the teacher has encountered your writing in the past.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Apr 22, 2020 | #15
If the client refers to a specific grade qualification for the paper he ordered, then he fails to receive the specified grade, then the student has been scammed. The company agreed, in principle and via electronic contract, the provide all of the specifications the student had for his paper at the time he placed the order. Said paper should have been given to a writer who could surely deliver on all the important order points. The failure of the company to provide the right type of writer to the student for the completion of the paper indicates that the company scammed the student. There are no exceptions, there are no explanation. Once demands are made by the client and the company / writer fails to fulfill it, but still takes the client's money, what do you call that? Yup, a scam.




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