Now there is a challenge. You are always threatening to get people banned. I challenge you to get me banned. Let's see whether you really CAN deliver what you keep threatening!

So you don't think that muntazir could create 2 entirely separate names and then register both with essaybay and then bid on twice the amount of work. Then when it all goes bums up you blame the other name you used.

If what you claim IS true then yes it IS unethical as he is leading the student to think that they have a competent writer rather than an imbecile. It would be like me asking the cleaner at work to come and investigate internet pooon lol do you think she would be capable lol.

Sania DID NOT write the pile of crap that he sent to my friend, Muntazir even admitted to writing that as well as admitting to writing the jurisprudence ones.


OK Muntazir lets see some of your work I posted a good sample of the law essay crap you wrote.

Michael I am not the only one to poit out his lack of writing skills one of his customers also posted on here to say who rubbish he is. Some people are easier satisfied then others. Trying to blame someone else for his work is not believable. Why would you bid on work and then give it to someone else. that does not make any sense!

I don't care how much you defend him his work speaks volumes. Would you like even more samples of this essay posting just to prove the poor grammatical content?

Based on the fact that she said she spoke to them.... I could easily say I had done the same in respect of my applications but without posting the email replies from the companies there is NO direct proof I contacted them.


I actually stated that it was my intention to see if any of the companies would employ ESL writers I never claimed that they would and stated that I would post evidence if or when I gained employment with them. I made several applications but did not follow these up due to several reasons and therefore cannot give you any results on this since I did not actively pursue this.

I have NEVER claimed that everyone in this industry is a fraud... WB is always asking for proof so I will take a leaf out of here book in this matter and ask you to prove this assertion as this is certainly untrue. I have no qualm with anyone using any services for legitimate research purposes though I do have disdain for those who submit the work as their own.


There you go again accusing me of being a fraud supporter ...when have I ever supported ANY of these companies that rip students and writers off. Prove your accusation!


We all know full well that the entire thread were you made an indirect endorsement of Legitimate Dissertations to theusstudent was deleted as pointed out several times by solidsnake.


I thought I would post the entire thread so that others can read your comments in context not in isolation... in order to give an accurate picture of your endorsement of Legitimate Dissertations. It is easy to pick out an isolated paragraph and make it appear to look as though you motives were honorable. You repeatedly pick out isolated paragraphs to make your assertions. This thread is a prime example were you have tried to make this about me saying that you have never defended other companies when you know full well that the first comment I made about this was to ask why you never sought any other companies opinions.

So I am supposed to take everything you say at face value... yeah right! I have not challenged your assertions on the locations of companies.. what I have challenge is the way in which you constantly have to cite the location of these companies as though that in itself is proof that the writers who work for these companies must be ESL ans substandard writers.


the comment above insinuates that I am a fraud supporter by the very fact it was in response to one of my comments. LIAR lol

one example of your defense of Legitimate Dissertations where you did not tel the us student that recommendations were not allowed see solidsnake's comments lol

By the way I like your quote from 2007 lol


you could have fooled me lol

oh and two more topis were you defended Legitimate Dissertations.

need i continue further you wanted proof so i thought on this one occasion i would oblige lol

Nice attempt at dodging my challenge to prove I have ever defended any fraudulent companies.

Proof of when I have ever defended any fraudulent company? Oh there isn't any ..why? because I have no affiliation with any company and therefore no need to defend anyone.

You know full well that I have SEVERAL times posted since, that the question was on whether you had asked other companies for their opinions.


As in every time someone slags off Legitimate Dissertations you respond. Admittedly there aren't many posts slagging off Legitimate Dissertations so you haven't had to defend them often but you invariably have to side with Legitimate Dissertations every time someone says something bad about them ... explain!

Cos you have such a warm personality (tongue in cheek) lol

All that shows is that you defended paper masters once by asking them if you could submit a paper as your own wow. does not explain your continual defense of Legitimate Dissertations.

No you just keep harping on about how you don't need to ask 'fraudulent' companies their opinion cos you know they are fraudulent. You do not explain WHY you have to ask Legitimate Dissertations. Let them defend themselves if you have no involvement with them or nothing to gain from defending them.

And you accuse others of not answering questions asked of them, you are a master at avoiding answering questions with regard to the motive behind your posts.

The more you dodge the issue the more apparent it seems that you must have something to gain by defending them

No you haven't answered the question WHY DO YOU DEFEND Legitimate Dissertations WHEN THEY ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THIS THEMSELVES?


Of course anyone that does not agree with you is either an idiot, a coward or works for a fraudulent company lol least you are consistent in your accusations lol

It is not YOUR job to defend Legitimate Dissertations ... or is it? Surely Legitimate Dissertations are quite capable of coming on a site like this in order to respond.... they obviously know of its existence from the email they sent to Moneeb rejecting the second order. If they feel they have been wronged it is up to them to respond not for you to poke your nose and get their response. Comments from Moneeb do not affect you personally so why would you feel the need to jump to their defense?

Moneeb was claiming (from experience) that they had had a bad experience with Legitimate Dissertations, which is only the same as other customers claiming they have been ripped off by other companies. You cannot disprove Moneeb's assertion but yet you attempted to ascertain their version, why bother? Why not let an official from Legitimate Dissertations come on here themselves to defend their reputation? If they feel they have been unjustly treated it is up to them to address this manner just as it is up to the other companies that have been slated. I am questioning YOUR motive for wanting to get their version. It is a simple question which you repeatedly keep dodging stating it is unfair to accuse without proof. This is a case of double standards when there are often accusations made on here without any evidence (except for the word of the topic starter) when no one challenges the person starting the topic. And no one has ever asked for the opinion of the company, though some company reps have come on here to defend themselves.

Maybe Ms Sania is Muntazir's real name. Muntazir is responsible for the crap work believe me I have seen an example and Muntazir admits that this work was his/hers as he also admitted to the ones on jurisprudence.

I haven't seen all of Muntazir's work, however, the ones I have seen are not degree standard at all.

Lavinia

I then corrected this with what I should have put in the first place which is that WB has NEVER asked the other companies for their side of the story, a fact that CANNOT be refuted since WB has NEVER asled for the other side's story. When I mentioned jumping to the defence I meant by asking for their opinion though I admit to not expressing myself clearly. However, I still stand by the assertion that WB has NEVER stated that she intends to contact the companies that have been slated to ask for their side.


This was the first post I made on this subject which is why I thought it was obvious what I meant by defending other companies

lol if that's what floats your boat then dream on wb lol you can't even see when someone is baiting you lol

Oh if it makes you feel better lol you can only lose if you were in a competition to win. I did not realise i was in any such competition as it was a personal challenge i set myself not a challenge set by anyone else. I NEVER made any assertions that I would DEFINITELY be able to prove anything I said that I would contact various companies to see if I could persuade them to employ an ESL writer. If I had stated that I could DEFINITELY prove this thesis and then couldn't then yes I guess you could say I lost but since I was only testing a notion then it isn't a case of winning or losing. If you had stated that I couldn't find such a company and I had stated that I DEFINITELY could and then I couldn't then yes you would have won and I would have lost, however this was not the case and I would NEVER have made such an assertion as I was testing the hypothesis which means that I had no idea what the result would be. IF I do get any jobs from my applications whenever I will be sure to tell everyone, but I am not going to lose any sleep trying to chase them.

You are such an easy target lol I guess I must be kind of perverse to get fun out of winding you up lol

Hey you forgot to put COWARD in your post tut tut your slipping lol. I haven't posted ANY follow up because as I have said countless times already I haven't FOLLOWED up any of my applications. Yes initially I thought it might be amusing to prove that companies that state they won't hire ESL writers would employ them, however, I find it far more amusing to keep pulling your chain and a lot less effort. Oh how easily you rise to the bait lol. Have a coke and a smile as my uni mate would say lol.

Yawn so boring. Are you being sponsored to see how many times you can say COWARD in one post lol. You must be racking up the dollars lol.

What you are failing to get here is I don't give a toss whether I am accepted or rejected. My aim was to see if they would accept an ESL writer but as I have put hardly any effort into this quest I am hardly surprised not to have had a response. If I were seriously interested in writing I would have chased up the application but to be honest short of sending the initial email and an essay written 3 years ago for my course that is the full extent of my communication with any of the companies. And as mentioned above the study itself is flawed in that (as you once pointed out yourself) these companies come on here to browse the comments ergo any company not wishing to be caught out are going to be a little cautious about employing a new writer in case they are part of the experiment.

So because YOU state that YOU asked them and THEY said NO that means its TRUE lol OK Post the email they sent in response to your enquiry then we can all see what THEY said, Besides this isn't exactly what I meant by defending as well you know AND you still haven't shown any of US were you have asked another company for their side of the story- perhaps because you NEVER have before.


As pointed out by another poster quite some time ago my research is flawed by disclosing the companies I had submitted applications to. All it takes is for someone such as yourself to highlight to Legitimate Dissertations or any of the other companies that I am conducting such an experiment and they refuse to take on any new writers for the time being. It is obvious that you made Legitimate Dissertation aware of Moneeb's post from the email Moneeb received telling him/her that her essay request was not going to be carried out due to the complaint on here. It does not take an Einstein to work out that you could have told them about my research project since the first email I had asked for a sample of my work and since then I have heard nothing at all- neither a rejection or an acceptance.


I have never endorsed the fraudulent activity of any company. Feel free to scrutinise my posts as I know that I have never endorsed one company over another or tried to excuse fraudulent activity.

Trying to divert things away again from proving me wrong. I have explained that I have not devoted hardly anytime to my original quest, mostly because of work commitments. You will note that this is a weekend (my first weekend off in 3 weeks) and therefore I have devoted most of my day to catching up on household chores and helping my daughter clean out the animals. Low on my list of priorities is in trying to prove a thesis I set myself some time back. I have never claimed that all sites would hire ESL writers I stated that I was going to apply to a variety of sites to see which ones would employ me if I posed as an ESL writer.

To be able to prove that American and UK sites will employ ESL writers it is necessary to apply to several. Just targeting one or two would not give a balanced view. This is therefore something that cannot be achieved in a very short time and now that the universities are shutting for the summer the workload for these sites will be dropping substantially which could mean that they will not be considering applications for writing jobs until the new semester (One of the companies I applied to stated that they would consider my application when the term recommences in september).

I still intend to continue with this experiment but as it is not part of the paper I am doing for my phd will not be dedicating any serious time to the issue at hand. I will certainly keep all correspondence I have from the applications I have made and will post the results once all the sites have responded.


My proof is in the fact that you felt the need to seek their side of the story when you have NEVER done this for any other company attacked on here.

Yawn you are getting boring. JUST FOR THE RECORD I AM NOT GOING TO BE BULLIED BY AN APOLOGIST LIKE YOU INTO LEAVING THIS SITE. It is obvious that you cannot prove me wrong on what you regard as my secondary challenge. Maybe I should ask you to LEAVE if you cannot show me another post were you asked for the other side's story, But then that would go against my belief in the freedom of speech etc.

Anyway its way past my bedtime here and you are becoming extremely tedious so I will depart as the victor since you cannot disprove my SECONDARY allegation lol

Nicely side stepping the issue. You cannot prove me wrong and so therefore are on the attack. I have not asked you to prove me wrong or stop posting so why are you so concerned to see the back of me... is it because you have finally met someone that doesn't back down to your bully boy tactics?

I am not worried about ANYTHING you post what I am questioning is your need to get the opinion of Legitimate Dissertations when you are clearly not bothered about the opinions of other essay writing companies that have been attacked.

I am not a FRAUD supporter especially since I have no vested interest in any of the companies. If the accusations of poor customer service made by Moneeb are correct then he/she is entitled to state their grievance. Why doesn't an official from Legitimate Dissertations come on here in person to respond to the comments if the accusations are false or is that why you are here to defend on their behalf.?

I have no axe to grind against any site as I have never used any of them and have never written for any of them. I was merely pointing out that no matter what is stated on the websites there is no guarantee that the customer will be told that the work is not to be submitted as their own. Moneeb could perhaps enlighten us on this matter since he recently bought 2 such papers from Legitimate Dissertations. The question is simple was moneeb told that he/she could not use these as their own work or was he/she told that the essay would be their property and they could do as they wish with the essay? Why are you so bothered about Moneeb's answer if you are confident that they would have been told that they could not use this as their own work?


Then prove me wrong. Show me a post were you sought the opinion of the essay writing company other than Legitimate Dissertations.

By your own comments you are agreeing that you have NEVER sought the other sides story except in defense of Legitimate Dissertation. Oh and by the way get over yourself. You don't own this site and I won't be bullied into leaving just because you cannot stand the heat.

Explain why Legitimate Dissertations are the only site whose opinion your were keen to glean. Why is it SO important to defend their name. If Moneeb or any other customer is not satisfied with the service they receive they are entitled to post this on here irrespective of whether you believe it to be true or not. After all this site is SUPPOSED to be dedicated to highlighting those companies that do not give customer satisfaction.

I have read all your threads and you have NEVER stated in any thread except this one that you will seek the story from the writing companies viewpoint NOW prove me wrong!


We know what they state on the website but that does not mean that they might not say something different to the customer.

Freedom of speech and all that lol I questioned your motive because of your quick defense of Legitimate Dissertations.

You have NEVER jumped to the defense of ANY of the other companies that have been attacked on here ... isn't that strange?

It may seem irrelevant to you, however moneeb seems to suggest from the first post that they were going to submit this work in its entirety as their own so therefore it IS relevant to know whether Legitimate Dissertations would allow the customer to do this otherwise there is little point in moneeb buying an essay from them.


How come you never try to glean the OTHER SIDES opinion when someone accuses Master papers of ripping off customers or Custom papers or any of the other sites that have been complained of on here?

As one bloke to another I don't give a toss lol

Neither do I but just wanted to correct your misconception!

A browse on the internet revels another company supposedly using unit 706

ukcpct.org/contact.asp

think i might take a stroll down there at weekend and find out what exactly is at that address

As I live in London thought a bit of detective work was in order so I checked out the address AND this is the business that is really at that address

NO2ID (Legal Defence Fund)
Box 412
19-21 Crawford Street
London W1H 1PJ

check out the no2id campaign on their website which gives there address.

no2id.net/pledge/defenceFund.php

What on earth makes you think I am a man? When have I ever said that i was male. In fact I do remember stating that I returned to work after having my son.

SS I guess my posts ought to be girly since that is exactly what I am :)

At last something you and I agree on ...that's scary lol

I think the message I wrote is quite clear. You stated that IF they don't lie to the public then they won't have a problem with you, so what I am asking is does this mean that IF the likes of essaywriters.net and masterpapers.com were to admit their true location AND admit that they use ESL writers as well as writers who are EFL writers then you would not have a problem with them doing work for American students etc even if their declaration of location ACTUALLY increased their workload or did not reduce their workload.

So basically IF all the writing companies declared their true location and IF they all declared that they employ writers from all over the world then you would not have a problem with them providing essays for anyone willing to use them even if their workload was unaffected by their declaration or actually increased as a result of it, is that correct?

No its that at work we found a huge pooon ring on the internet and have been working 14 hour shifts doing dawn raids at various addresses up and down the country. This is still an ongoing investigation so cannot say any more about this. I do have several emails to follow up on from various companies but just not had time to do so. This is one of the reasons I have not posted much on here for a while. The kind of work I do is draining emotionally as well as physically so I have not really taking much action towards the research. In the scale of things I weigh this in the category of least importance. It was just a thesis I was going to test and will do so once things are back to normal at work again.

Anyway I am now off to bed after another gruelling night. Catch you all later.

maybe its your sense of humour i don't get?


Not had much time to devote to this quest at the moment

I guess that means you agree that muntazir should be allowed to continue to portray himself as a good writer and rip people off? Isn't that rather a contradiction to the stuff you normally spout?