Right. That's why you have almost twice as many posts here in 2 years as I have in 4 years...on a forum that's of zero interest to anybody besides writers, essay company reps, and students looking for writers and essay companies they can trust. There's probably not single person here who believes you about why you're "not" here or where you email does and "doesn't" go.


I thought you said it was because it offends your principles that I used to violate the no-advertising rule here. Why would you dislike someone just because he's dumb? I don't dislike you just because you suggested that driving drunk is a "skill" that needs "practice" and that anybody opposed to lowering the drinking age must just be "jealous" because he doesn't have those "skills." To most people (including me), that's about as dumb as you can get but that's not why I dislike you; I dislike you because you stalk my posts like a psychopath, continually attack me totally unprovoked, and lie about me outright. All on a forum you claim "not" to take seriously because you're just here for "s-i*s & gigges" and "not" to find clients. That's some serious hatred that suggests that you're obviously a liar or really a nutjob, although they're quite obviously not mutually exclusive.


I'm here to express my opinions just like you; except that I've expressed only about half as many opinions as you in about twice as much time. As far as boasting, didn't you recently boast that you "attended grad school" and "graduated" a client for pay? How come it's not OK for me to post my opinions here the same way you do (only a lot less often)? How come when you express your opinons here it's fine but when I do it (on the same topics, no less), it's a "mad scramble for clients"? Why are you here, again?


I've never "whined" or complained about anything; all I did was answer your question very directly about why I was never banned from this forum along with the two other posters who helped you embarrass yourself here on a regular basis. I couldn't care less about what "rules" you violate, but didn't you say several times that you dislike me because I previously violated a forum rule? How come you get to violate whatever forum rules you want now (like the DNM list) while hating me for violating a different rule in the distant past? What happened to your principles and your "understanding" of the forum rules?

It's fascinating that you'd use the phrase "tag-teaming" here. This was a dead two-year old thread without any sort of "advertisement" of any kind. Because you monitor this forum like a stalking psycopath for any mention of me in any thread, you chose to attack me entirely unprovoked (as usual) and accused me of being a "con artist." Your barely-English speaking friend with the same mentality chimed in to join the unprovoked attack. One of several competing writers here with whom I have a perfectly respectable rapport and for whom I have provided good work decided to respond (appropriately, in my opinion) to your nonsense, just in the unlikely event anybody new to this forum took you or your barely-English-speaking friend seriously.


It is further testament to your lack of this whole "integrity" thing that you claim to uphold that you'd use quotations for something I never actually said; either that, or it demonstrates pretty lousy writing and "editing" skills, Mr. "Editor." This thread had no advertisement of any kind; someone simply asked about contacting me in an old thread and you decided to attack me for it (as usual). For your information, there are about a half a dozen other respected writers here who have asked for my help and to whom I have sent work or referred work that I couldn't do, reciprocally. Apparently, you don't think I have the same right as you (or they) do to contribute to (or start) threads on this forum about any topic and that it's your role to attack me personally in every thread were I'm mentioned or where I post about anything.

Again, really fascinating that you'd use the phrase "double-talking" here. Weren't you the one who tried to justify your insane hatred of me by claiming to be so "offended" that I ever dared to break forum rules while also claiming that you "understand" the rules and only respect other people who abide by them? From my "understanding" of the rules of this forum, the company you just mentioned is prohibited by forum rule from being mentioned. Hypocritical much?

But to answer your question strictly for the benefit of others, I was told that I was going to be banned because I had been defending a company I wrote for way too much. I responded by emailing the mods saying that I really had no agenda to defend any company and I said I had no problem never doing it again if they allowed me to stay. They responded that if that was the case, I was perfectly welcome to continue my membership here. Since then, I haven't ever mentioned any company by name or responded to any posts about any specific company and I've had absolutely no problems with the mods here, only with a self-appointed forum cop who says his grudge against me is that I dared to break forum no-advertising rules in the distant past while he breaks different forum rules in the present and who cannot understand why that makes him such an obvious lying hypocrite.

While I wouldn't recommend any writer or essay company to potential customers, I would humbly suggest that the way writers here (and those who claim to be "editors") treat competing writers tells you something very important about how they're likely to treat their clients. If a writer resorts to stalking and lying about and purposely instigating unprovoked fights, that's likely the kind of conduct his clients can expect from him, too. The same is likely true about writers who can maintain amicable and fair relationships with competing writers.

Thank you. I'm going to quote the only part of that the mods won't delete as a recommendation:


Appreciate the backup against this nonsense. Legitimate writers compete against one another fairly and even rely on one another periodically for overflow help or to help their clients find a writer if a particular topic happens to be out of their areas. It's only the real dirtbags in this industry who "compete" by posting outright lies to trash other writers.


Exactly. Thanks again.

I wouldn't be able to make a living doing this without good research skills and you have absolutely no way of knowing what my research skills are because you've (admitted that you've) never seen anything I've ever written besides my forum posts. Granted, the fact that I write well doesn't necessarily prove that I also have good research skills; on the other hand, nobody really cares how good anybody's "research skills" are when he (meaning you) can't even manage to compose a single one or two-sentence informal forum post in grammatically correct English in 934 attempts over a nearly 7-year period to date.

And another totally unprovoked, baseless, vindictive comment from some idiot who says he "doesn't" take this forum seriously and who claims that he's "not" here to get clients but who monitors any thread in which I'm mentioned because he's "not" threatened that another writer is apparently much more successful in this business than he is.

I've never even been accused of "conning" anybody and I turn down more assignments than I accept because I never want any disappointed clients. Even the owner of the one commercial essay company I had a beef with here over payment referred to my being an "excellent writer." You've claimed your intense hatred of me is because I offended your "principles" by previously breaking the rules of this forum to advertise, all while you proudly announce (in the same thread) that you've supposedly taken money to "attend graduate school" for clients and "graduate" them. And all of that nastiness started when you embarrassed yourself with an idiotic post that drunk driving is a "skill" that should be practiced after I posted that lowering the drinking age was one of the stupidest ideas I was ever asked to write about.

This was a totally dead thread for two years and wasn't an advertisement of any kind. Of course, I understand that when you're angry and frustated and jealous that someone would ask to contact me because my posts suggest that I must write pretty well, anything I post in any thread on this forum about anything strikes you as an "infotisement." Maybe if your posts were written a little better and your opinions and positions made more sense, people might express more of an interest in you as a writer. Sorry, I forgot that you're the one forum member here who isn't a customer or a professional writer and that the email associated with your account here "doesn't" receive emails.

I don't even accept the proposition that it's necessarily amoral because formal rules can be (and often are) arbitrary and/or illogical. For example, the moral character of drinking or selling alcohol isn't changed by Prohibition: it can be made legal or illegal by Congress or statute, but taking a swig from the same bottle in your cabinet was not moral the day before and immoral the after Prohibition went into effect. Some laws do concern moral issues but many do not. The only legitimate moral argument against most instances of ghostwriting in academia is that it's unfair competition against other students who write their own papers.

There would be a moral issue if there were a connection between writing assignments and the actual qualifications of students as relates to their intended fields and professions, but not otherwise, and not when those writing assignments are unnecessary in the first place. The vast majority of the opportunity for academic ghostwriting only exists in the first place because colleges waste the time of engineers and nurses (etc) satisfying writing requirements that are useless to them and unnecessary for them. Generally, students who need ghostwriting don't go into fields where their ability to write is important. Engineers need to know engineering and nurses need to know nursing; there's just no reason to force either of them to take History or English Literature courses that they have no interest in and whose material they won't remember a week after their exams anyway. Nobody is harmed by the fact that an engineer or nurse bought a paper on World War II in college. Even when they do their own writing, it's usually nothing more than stringing together the ideas they find in their sources and wouldn't meet the standards of academic writing if their professors cared enough to check beyond just making sure they didn't copy & paste directly from sources. They usually don't check any further than that because they don't care either, precisely because it really doesn't matter.

There would be a legitimate moral issue if engineers or nurses paid someone to take their exams in their majors because that would enable unqualified engineers and nurses to build unstable buildings or dispense the wrong medications. Unless students are going into a field where their actual job emphasizes writing, it's nobody's business (including their academic institutions') that they can't write much more than an informal email, and most students who purchase ghostwriting aren't going into those fields. Otherwise, colleges have no reason to force students to write in the first place because their only concern should be what students learn substantively, and that can be (and is) tested sufficiently on exams; and exams can include essay questions if it really matters that students be able to express their knowledge that way. If they can write well enough to pass an in-class essay-question exam, they can write well enough that it's nobody else's legitimate business whether they choose to work on improving their writing any more than that.

[While I respect both of the posters above, there are also plenty of dummies here who will be tempted to respond with the (very) obvious counterarguments. Please spare me because I can make them better than you can; trust me on that. I just don't believe that the strongest counterargument here prevails on the issues.]

The solution is to use the search function of this forum to identify those companies whose TOS specifically indicate that they never resell your work and those companies that purposely wait at least 3-6 months to resell the papers under their rights to do so according to their TOS. If you use one of the latter, the only way you might run into problems is if you order an essay several months before you actually need it.

Customers of any industry want honesty more than anything else. If you're ESL and you do good work, just tell them exactly that. What most American customers want is simply good work that also sounds like American English.

That's evident enough just in the forum posts of almost every ESL writer and company rep on this forum who complains about "discrimination" whenever anybody suggests that American and British customers have a right to know whether or not a writer offering services is ESL. If they can't even write a single informal 2-line forum post that isn't very obviously ESL to anybody who isn't ESL, the chance that they can write an academic paper that doesn't sound ESL is exactly ZERO percent.

When you said this: "If this is the case, we are all criminals."
I was going to respond "Speak for yourself because I've never written anything by just changing the words of something I wrote previously" but I wasn't looking to prolong the discussion. And self-plagiarism isn't a criminal matter in the first place.

You're the one who apparently admits to writing by changing words for the same ideas (as implied in the first quote above). I'm not creating any "double standard"; I've explained several times that you can't compare students and hired writers in this respect, simply because when students self-plagiarize, it's almost always a deliberate choice to select an essay topic they already wrote for another class. That has nothing to do with the issue of having to write the same assignment multiple times as a writer, because you suggested that professional writers and subject matter experts often write about the same topics multiple times. Self-plagiarizing students choose topics for that purpose; professional writers don't get to choose their topics like that.

You don't need dictionary definitions of "expert" here, just a better conceptual understanding of what's an apple and what's an orange, Professor. If you write about the same exact topic multiple times, as all of us do, it's not self-plagiarism if it happens to come out very similar to the prior paper because your analysis or opinion on the topic hasn't changed. If you handle consecutive identical assignments by opening up the last paper you did on the same topic and just change the words, that's self-plagiarism. You apparently admit to that process. I write every paper from scratch, including topics that I've handled numerous times. If my analyses and opinions are similar, that's not self-plagiarism.

If you still don't understand why one's an apple and one's an orange, you're not going to, but others reading this conversation might.

We're not discussing professional writers here. Obviously, I've also written about the same topics many times and I've written the same assignment for multiple customers in the same class many times. STUDENTS rarely get a writing assignment that's identical to a previous writing assignment. That almost never happens. Students frequently choose to write about the same topic they wrote about previously precisely so they don't actually have to write a new paper for the second class. That's the topic of discussion: Students, not professional writers or "experts" in any field.

The question was posed by a student about whether or not rewriting his previous paper in different words is plagiarism.

Submitting your own previous written work for a current class is the definition of self-plagiarism.

Changing all the words to say the exact same thing as a previous piece of writing is also plagiarism.

None of that has anything to do with actually writing the same assignment from scratch twice, even if you end up making many of the same points in both papers. That's not what students do when they purposely choose the same topic for papers in different classes.

Understand the difference?

We're not really talking about good-faith presentation of the author's beliefs or analysis on a very similar topic that just happens to be assigned in different classes. That hardly ever happens. The vast majority of instances of self-plagiarism involve the student's very deliberate choice to select an essay topic for a current course that he's already written for a previous class with minor changes to match the course, such as in a paper about the Cuban Missile Crisis submitted for credit as a research paper in a History class one year and then resubmitted a year later in a Political Science or International Relations class. What do you suppose a professor would say if you asked for permission to write a paper on the exact same topic you wrote for a different class? I don't make the rules about what constitutes plagiarism, but I've written enough papers on the topic to have looked it up and I know that submitting the same paper twice in different classes is considered self-plagiarism even though you wrote it. Rewriting all the same ideas and points in different words so that it can pass an online plagiarism scanner is also plagiarism. So, rewriting your own old paper for that purpose is very obviously plagiarism, at least according to what I've read and also according to common sense.

If you've written in English since the age of 5, I don't know that it's fair to consider yourself ESL, since that's the same age that all of us native speakers start writing. In any case, this is a rare example of an ESL whose writing is not very obviously and immediately recognizeable as ESL. Almost all the other ESLs on this forum who've ever argued that being ESL "doesn't matter" or "shouldn't matter" to American clients write in English that just screams "I was written by a non-native English speaker" to anybody who isn't ESL.

So, you offer a pay service that changes one form of plagiarism into a different form of plagiarism. (Restating all the same ideas even in completely new words is still plagiarism.)

.. Especially when the student can't define a word or phrase used in the paper, apart from any substantive knowledge about the topic. I'd say that's pretty conclusive proof of plagiarism in one form or another.

If you read up on plagiarism, that's called "self-plagiarism" and most school honor codes and course rules that go into detail about plagiarism do specifically include submitting work for credit that the student as already written previously for credit in any other course.

True. And if your answer to a prospective customer's question "Are you a native English speaker or ESL?" is "English is not my native language but I am an excellent academic writer" nobody has any argument with you and the customer can decide whether or not to trust you with his work.

But this is also true:


Which is why some ESL writers lie to customers who ask. That's my only problem with (some) ESL writers.

You don't own most of the software that you "BUY" with your computer or that you "BUY" to download, either; you own a license to use it on one computer and the software manufacturer sells that same application to millions of other customers. You can't even install it on a second computer according to most software manufacturers' TOS. Furthermore, many of those licenses typically expire after the specified time period for which you paid to use it.

When you buy an essay from most essay companies, you buy the right to use that essay without limiting what the essay company can do with it subsequently. If that's not acceptable to you, just make sure that you buy essays only from companies that offer TOS that are more acceptable to you. As is the case with any other online business, essay companies have their own TOS that customers can either accept or refuse. If they refuse, they just have to find a different company whose TOS they like better. If the company's TOS say that the copyright is retained by the company, that means they can do whatever they want with it later. As a courtesy, the reputable companies don't resell them until many months after their first sale as original work. They also fully disclose that the essays are not original whenever they do resell them later. The only thing I'm having trouble "grasping" is what the logical basis of your objection to any of that is. If it's in the TOS, that's what pells out all of your rights, and theirs.

Essay companies have an obligation not to sell old essays as original "new" essays.

Essay companies have an obligation to disclose whether any work is original or pre-written.

Essay companies have an obligation to abide by any promise not to resell work if that's what they promise.

But if their TOS say that they retain copyright, it's really none of your business that they may resell them months later.

It's not a very good analogy and I'm not entirely sure who's doing the renting out here, but yes: If you buy a car, you can rent it out or lend it for free to whomever you wish afterwards, or even burn it, as long as you don't claim insurance on it or do it on public property.

Sticking with your car theme:

You can sell a new car as a "new car";
You can sell a used car as a "used car";
You just can't sell a used car calling it a "new car"; and
If you pay a premium to rent a brand new car from the owner, it's really none of your concern that he may subsequently rent it out to others for less as a used rental car.

Same deal with essays whose copyright you own.

Reputable companies always fully disclose in their TOS that they retain the copyright to the work and that they reserve the right to resell it subsequently. They also wait at least 3-6 months before reselling it, by which time the original customer who paid for and received 100% original work really no longer has any reason to care what they do with the paper subsequently. Anybody purchasing a previously-written paper knows exactly what he's buying and why it's so much cheaper than an original essay. One company that uses my work does include a promise never to resell any work and they charge slightly more for it for that reason. If you pay for original work, you have every right to receive it, but whatever happens to it afterwards is governed by whatever the TOS are that you agree to when you use a given company. If you ever receive old work after paying for original work, you have every right to demand a refund and/or start a chargeback through your credit card company.

It really just wasn't an issue.

Either they didn't ask me anything about it and just considered the writing samples as writing samples or they gave me an opportunity to explain that it meant I was very good at short deadlines, handling unpredictable changes in schedules, and that I'm very versatile in being able to produce many different types of writing on different subject matter areas.

But I always disclosed exactly what I do for a living and discussed it freely if they were interested; and that included furnishing the name and main address and contact info for the essay companies that use me the most in the Employment History sections of their applications.

There really aren't that many people who can do this very well or consistently over any substantial period of time and it does demonstrate a lot of the skills that many employers really need in anybody they consider hiring as a writer.

I've always written on a freelance basis since law school, on my own time while employed, and anytime I was in between jobs, relying on it to different degrees at different times.

Since 2007, I've been doing it as a fulltime living and absolutely nothing else.

I disclosed it in full detail (along with examples as writing samples) to every U.S. employer and it was never a problem, including federal law enforcement background investigators. The only responses I ever got in the U.S. were positive comments about actually being able to do this and I got the jobs. The only negative response I ever got was from a European entity together with advice not to mention it to other potential Swiss employers.

You're comparing apples and oranges because the two things have absolutely nothing to do with one another: the same way breaking the posted speed limit on the way to work has nothing to do with whether or not a businessman is legitimate or fraudulent in his business practices. In fact, the connection is even weaker than the speeding businessman because speeding involves actually breaking a law whereas breaking the posting rules of any Internet forum does not. Still, it's silly to suggest that nobody should trust a businessman to honor his client relationships or to respect the laws governing his business because he regularly "breaks laws" of the road. I've previously admitted to breaking the rules of this forum, and I've been punished for it, and I've stopped doing it; but I've never been accused of violating the trust of any of my clients.


Just out of curiosity, are you one of the people in your organization who determine whether or not job applicants can write clearly in fluent English?

Incidentally, aspiring teachers and working teachers needing my help with their theses and dissertations while pursuing advanced degrees in Education have been some of my most regular clients.

I understand; and I'm saying it's possible to compete fairly instead of in a way that would violate a friendship. Remember, I descibed my two primary competitors as not even friends, although there's no reason we couldn't be if we had a lot in common and lived in the same region, etc. My wife and I did once make plans to meet for coffee with one of them and his wife when they were in town, but it fell through. In fact, I'd argue the way we compete against one another would go a long way to helping establish a friendship. If you started out being friends with someone who poached all your clients that you developed first in return for the favor of just sharing them to help him get started working, I'd argue that the problem is the kind of person you thought deserved your friendship in the first place and not that it's necessarily impossible to maintain a friendship with any competitor.

This sounds about right to me, but would burn me out quickly. I write almost every day, am available to write nearly 24/7/365 unless I'm sleeping, but write 20-25 pages in a single day only once in a while and need some down time to recover afterwards. The only thing that doesn't add up (to me) is the page/working-day count and the annual income, unless you're getting the low end of the payment scale per page. I couldn't maintain that kind of output; but if I did, my income would definitely be well into 6 figures.

Not true. We don't have enough work to "divide" up; it has nothing to do with division of labor. Sometimes I get inquiries for topics that just aren't in my areas or that I just can't squeeze in by the deadline. My choice is to leave the person stranded for a writer or pass it on to one of two writers I happen to know and trust. If it's a new customer, we pass them on; if it's an existing regular, we just pass on that particular assignment and we don't steal work from one another's existing clients, the same way we don't steal clients from the companies we write for. None of us ever gives away any order he can do himself. We aren't even friends in the traditional sense because we've never met and only know one another from this work. So far, the three of us have always conducted ourselves honestly and fairly and it has nothing to do with how much work is available or not available.

It probably depends on the person. I only know two other writers and we have always been direct competitors on the company boards and for private clients. We have always referred new potential clients to one another for work out of our respective areas and usually we consider those clients to "belong" to the other writer who does the first assignment for that person. When an existing client needs a specific paper that we refer to one another, we mention that this is from "one of my regulars" (etc) which means we still expect to be writing that person's other work afterwards, unless that client chooses otherwise. Sometimes clients will try to play us off against one another for a lower price, but the three of us charge about the same for most work and we let one another know anytime we get inquiries from customers we've previously referred to one another.

I have absolutely no idea what this means or why it's offensive (or funny) to you. Yes, earning a living writing from home means you don't have to leave your apartment for work. Not sure what your problem is with that.


No idea what this means either. Someone once accused me of lying about a law degree so I posted proof in that thread and challenged him to do the same. He refused and said he had nothing to prove. The only reason I mentioned it here is in response to your intended insult to anybody doing this work who considers it a "career." I responded that not everybody cares about a career and that I could obviously have used a law degree for that instead of this (or continued in government writing) if I did.

Except for you, this thread is just a few writers with different degrees of experience discussing what they do for a living. What's the point of running through a civil conversation between other people just to scream "They probably lied about their income!"; "You're silly if you call this a career!"; and "You probably failed out of law school!" just to be obnoxious? Nobody else here is even arguing with anybody about anything, let alone instigating totally untrue, unprovoked, direct personal attacks.

Not everybody necessarily wants a "career" and there are plenty of so-called "careers" that are way more "silly" than writing these papers for a living. It's just a job and a way of earning a living in the way that comes most naturally to me and that suits my lifestyle much better than most "careers." One of the reasons I didn't take the job that was offerred to me at the law firm where I interned in my last year of law school was, precisely, that I really just wanted a "job" and not a career, and it seemed pretty clear that new lawyers had to work like they wanted a career, and not just a job, with their firms. I could have also had more of a "career" collecting more than I earn now and getting regular automatic salary increases every couple of years for doing a whole lot less (and easier) actual work than I do now as a Writer/Editor for the largest federal agency in the U.S. This is just the way I earn a living and I feel fortunate to be able to earn a decent living this way without every having to leave my apartment for work or answer to anybody or keep a typical "career" lifestyle and schedule.

Speaking from personal experience, you can definitely make that just writing for a good company. But it's not easy and it would be even less easy in your first year. Once you develop enough regular private clients, you can make twice that between the two (company and private work), but it's definitely not easy.

As far as sleep goes, it's not the amount of sleep that's an issue; it's the regularity of your sleep schedule. I would not be able to do this as successfully if I weren't ready, willing, and able to take (company) work at all hours of the day or night and to sleep at totally different times of night and day as dictated by my deadlines. I get all the sleep I need because this job allows me never to use an alarm clock at all...I sleep as long as I need to sleep...but I might have to write all night first (very regularly) and stay up for 20 or 24 hours straight (once in a while) and then go to bed at 9:00AM.

You're probably referring to me. In my opinion, if you do this well enough to get repeat work from most of your clients, it gets easier the longer you do it. As you build up a steady clientele, they come back fairly regularly month to month and even year to year and they refer their friends to you. At first, I was almost entirely dependent on company work and only supplemented it with private work. Last year, company work accounted for about 50% of my earnings and this year it's down to about 30% of about the same total annual income.

As far as qualities, you obviously need to be able to write well about a wide variety of subject areas, and you need to be very flexible with your non-work life and schedule and sleeping because many assignments come in and require delivery when it's not necessarily convenient for you. You should also be good at juggling multiple assignments because you often get emergency assignments that pay the most while you're already in the middle of other work or when you already considered yourself fully booked up. It's also helpful if you don't mind sleeping at night sometimes but working all night and sleeping during the day other times, as necessary. I don't know that I could earn the same living doing this if my sleep-wake schedule weren't very flexible. The work suits me but I imagine that there are many more people who can do this just enough to supplement their other income than there are people who can really do this fulltime for any extended period and earn as much as whatever other job they might have otherwise.

I don't recall ever having actually been asked for transcripts, just for a list of my degrees and the institutions where I earned them. They also asked for writing samples. In my opinion, it's impossible for any company to really evaluate writers until they actually hire them and see the work they produce. A degree is not necessarily proof that someone genuinely earned it and there's no way to be sure that the furnished writing samples were actually written by the applicant.

More importantly, there's not necessarily any correlation between degrees and writing ability, much less writing ability in any specific area. For example, I have formal degrees in Law, Psychology, and History, but there are (admittedly) plenty of topics in Law and History that I don't handle at all. Conversely, there are even more topics in completely different areas (like Business, Communications, Nursing, Philosophy, Political Science, etc) that I handle routinely (and very well) without having any formal degrees in any of those areas.

If I were running an essay company, I'd just want to verify that applicants really have any degrees listed from the schools where they're supposed to have been issued (mainly to to see whether they're being honest with me), and I'd want to review the first few essays to make sure they're up to company standards. In my opinion, it's unrealistic to expect a company to do much more than that. On the other hand, they should be pretty quick to dump any writer whose work turns out not to be good or that generates legitimate customer complaints; and they should have an absolute zero-tolerance policy toward any sort of plagiarism.

I didn't consider it a knock and was just responding honestly. You can't get rich doing this for a living, but if it suits your life and you're good at it, you can definitely match a pretty good white collar job earning-wise and it has a lot of advantages for me.


The U.S. government seemed to think I write well enough to have put me in charge of writing and editing agency reports in three states for a component of the largest U.S. federal agency and to have sent me all around those states to give writing training to managers and other senior personnel. The law professor whose letter to me I uploaded here in response to your unfounded allegation that I never graduated from law school also seemed to think that I wrote well enough as a student that he took the time to write me a 2-page letter about a paper I'd submitted to him long after the course was over.

I'm just trying to have a genuine conversation here with someone who expressed an interest. I don't come here to fight with you and since I'm no longer allowed to discuss any of the essay companies I still write for that you always lie about because that's the only way you can hope to compete with them, I really have no argument with you about anything anymore. You've previously admitted that you've never seen anything I've ever written and I think it's fairly well known here that I do this pretty successfully for a living, yet you pollute this forum with these stupid personal attacks when there isn't even any argument ongoing and I'm just having an honest discussion with someone who asked me a question. It's also apparent to anybody who speaks English fluently how ridiculous it is for someone who speaks and writes in English as poorly as is evident in every single one of your posts for you to presume to judge or criticize my writing skills in any respect. In any case, if you're involved in this industry, we both write for the same clientele generally, although I feel pretty safe saying that none of my clients would ever pay money for anything written by someone whose language skills are represented by your posts anywere on this forum.

Nevertheless, as far as I'm concerned, this forum is big enough for both of us to coexist here without going out of our way to insult one another and if you haven't noticed, I never respond to any of your posts about anything except when you continue to try to insult me without any provocation from me while I'm just trying to have a peaceful conversation with another forum member.

I have a simple information page that doesn't have any functionality. We're not allowed to post that kind of thing here but I've posted it on essaychat a few times, where it's allowed. It doesn't attract customers who haven't already inquired but it saves me time to respond with a link to answer most of their questions. After doing this for years, I've cultivated a pretty steady customer base who use me regularly for many months, and in some cases, for years. New clients generally come along at about the same rate as the attrition rate from graduation or program completion. Between company essays and that private work, I usually have as much work as I need or slightly more, so I don't really put any heavy effort into promotion.


I'm sure they do very well. I'm just saying that I'd rather write essays than run a business (of any kind) and that the main value to me of doing anything else besides writing would be to generate a passive income. As long as I have to work for a living, writing is what I do best and what fits my lifestyle best.

Nope. My natural talent is thinking and writing, not any kind of business. I'd rather just write assignments than deal with all the other stuff necessary to maintain a business. In my opinion, it would be very difficult to try to compete with any of the big essay companies doing the same thing that they do and it would require a substantial investment to get off the ground and maintain. The fact that the guys who run the companies for whom I do most of my company writing are still involved in day-to-day operations after more than a decade suggests to me that it wouldn't be a realistic way of establishing a "passive" income stream without a lot of work and as long as I'm going to be working, my "thing" is just writing.


Actually, I found working a regular 9-to-5 (or 7-to-3 by my choice to get done before rush hour) to be much more exhausting and I sleep much better (and more) now. No matter how much I work now, I still decide when to work, and (most importantly) when to go to bed and there is no alarm clock in my life. Working a regular job meant always having to rush to take a sleeping pill just to get in the minimum necessary sleep and then spending my whole weekends mainly just doing errands most of which were still related to work somehow (like laundry or food shopping or dry cleaning). Once I go to bed, I sleep until I wake up and I can just roll over and keep sleeping if I want to. It really all depends on what's more of a pain to you; in my case, getting up 5 days a week, trying to fit my workouts (and life) in before rushing to bed during the week or over the weekend was way more stressful than doing this. Sure, that means sometimes I go to bed at 8:00 AM, but I tended to stay up all night or most of the night sometimes and sleep until late afternoon even before I did this for a living, which is partly why regular jobs don't really fit my natural lifestyle. And I'm not hunched over because I have computers in every room, by every chair, and even work outside on the terrace in the sun sometimes. In most cases, I can also watch TV or listen to the radio while I work, too. Ironiccally, now that I work almost all the time, I feel like I have a life, whereas when I had a traditional job where I left my work in the office and never thought about work elsewhere, it felt like my entire life was nothing but working or preparing to go back to work in one way or another.

It would be very tough to make the equivalent wages of a decent fulltime job doing this just 5 days/week for 8 hours/day. If you're naturally inclined to be a hermit and don't mind being "on call" and prepared to work at any time close to 24/7/365, working at all times of day or night (including holidays), almost always having multiple overlapping deadlines pending, and never really being away from your computer for any length of time, you can earn about what you might at many decent fulltime jobs that pay in the mid to high 5 figures. There's also a burnout factor because your maximum output over years can't possibly match your maximum output over a much shorter time period.

They should include everything that's required on their end and nothing that isn't.

Unless the assignment actually calls for a specific number of references or citation style, there's no reason for customers to include this info.
Unless the customer is already locked in to a specific project title, let the writer make that decision within the more general topic requirements.

My father was a career educator (nuclear physics professor) and in the last years of his life he really enjoyed reading some of my papers that I wrote for work, especially about periods of history that he lived through. I was more embarrassed to show him some of the garbage they paid me to write in private-sector corporate communications. When people find out what I do, they're usually impressed that I write so much in so many different areas and so fast, because most of them remember the few major papers they wrote in college as a horrible experience that they dreaded and could never imagine doing on a daily basis for a living. If they want to discuss any ethical issues involved, that usually leads to a good conversation too.


Phoenix Online University probably accounts for 25% of my annual salary.