In the last 1,000 or so essays I've written for a custom essay service, I had to ask them to repost 2 or 3 because of some unanticipated problem with the order on my end. Generally, if a writer takes your order, you'll get it on time. Once in a while I get so busy that I get jammed up and have to contact the customer to see if he/she can afford to give me a little extra time but I try not to miss any deadlines without advance notice and the customer's permission.

What was your topic?

I'd rather put my hand in a wood chipper.

Chances are any clients who have used writers on this forum have been extremely satisfied with the product they purchased. Otherwise, there would be threads here about what writers on this forum other people shouldn't trust.In fact, this would be just about the worst place to disappoint a cutomer or "scam" somebody.

What's so idiotic about your continual mantra about "scrupulous" and "unscrupulous" writers is that you don't bother to make any distinction between writers who are 100% honest and scrupulous in their work for cutomers and writers who dare violate the rules of an Internet forum. That's like telling people not to trust a writer because you know he doesn't scrupulosuly separate out his recyclables from his regular garbage at home.

You don't seem to understand that the two things are completely different issues and that breaking the rules of an Internet forum is completely unrelated to whether or not a writer provides good honest original work for clients. I'm not defending ignoring forum rules and I've apologized to the foum if my recent post mentioning my areas of writing that you're losing so much sleep over crossed the line of soliciting. But you're an idiot for suggesting that means I'm an unscrupulous person or professional writer.

You should save your moral indignation for writers and companies who have scammed customers or provided lousy writing for a fee. This is essayscamforums not TheSocietyForScrupulousAdherenceToInternetForumRulesForums .

Believe it or not, I'm not worried about what you think and I don't consider your opinion of me a "problem" regardless of how bad it is. I've never "lied" about anything on this forum, especially about any websites that I don't write for, because I've repeatedly admitted openly that I don't know anything about any other websites.


I thought we were done too. I have no idea which website is yours and already apologized if I accidentally imputed to you what WB said about someone else in that thread months ago.


I guess I just don't care enough about these conversation to do extensive research for them. I'm also guessing I was just referring back to whatever I thought WB had posted about where your company is located in that thread. But where have I said anything about your website "months later"? I have zero knowledge about any websites other that the ones that use me and I've never claimed to. I don't even have any idea which site is yours and couldn't care less. If I misunderstood which website WB was referring to in that old thread and I imputed it to yours, I apologize sincerely. But as far as "evidence" goes, I believe I'm completely covered on the c-word thing by a legal doctrine called res ipsa loquitor.

No problem. I didn't start out commenting about or insulting anybody; I responded to a customer and was attacked by someone who's upset that I included my writing areas in that response to a customer. You agreed that it was a forum rules violation. I apologized already and have no beef with anybody about it at all.


I may be guilty of not bothering to doublecheck to see who said what. I thought it was you who said something about ET being a rip-off site and that's what I was responding to. But you're guilty of the exact same thing: I'm sure I never called you a "foreign crook" because I have zero info or knowledge about any websites (whether positive or negative) other than the ones who use my writing and I've never said anything negativeabout any essay site in anything I've ever written on this forum. Unless you're one of the people who is an ESL writer arguing that American customers have no right to knowthat you're ESL, I would never have authored a single post about anybody being "foreign" or a "crook."You're probably confusing WB's posts with mine.

On the topic of my law degree, I don't care what you think but nobody needs a formal degree of any kind to know that you can't "defame" an anonymous Internet forum screen name but you can definitelydefame a business or website by name.

I posted my areas of writing in response to the inquiries about my taking a paper that was already placed on a site for whom I provide writing. I don't want my good reputation with students on this site to make extra work for the administrators of the commercial sites who use me by having to amend orders on the board that request me totally outside of my areas. My point about your defaming a reputable company was strictly in relation to your use of the word "classy."

You have a very warped sense of morals being so concerned about what you believe is a violation of the rules of an Internet forum while you use the same forum to post outright lies defaming an honest company falsely because you can't compete with them honestly. If my post was a violation of forum rules even in its context, I apologize to the forum. Meanwhile, your misuse of the forum is something that undermines the value of the forum much more than mine and your misuse is actually addressed by areas of civil law that I hope the victims make use of to the fullest. In any case, it's a little warped on your part to be more concerned about forum rules than about the rules of civil law.


I apologize to the forum if my post was still a violation in that context. I did learn from being suspended once for 30 days more than a year ago and have not advertised for clients again since that suspension. If WB says my post was a violation in context, I accept her criticism.

As for insults, referring to you and stupid4 as a$$holes is hardly an "insult"; it's strictly an objective observation.

As "classy" as outright lies about a reputable company? Luckily, I don't have to respond to any a$$holes in my paid work, just here sometimes.

Some of us have always openly admitted that we're here hoping freelance clients will find us and that we also write for commercial essay writing companies. I've never commented negatively about any company, precisely because I don't know anything about any company for whom I don't write. I've always defended any company about which I have first-hand knowledge in response to complete lies from people like you.

The only one lying about legitimate companies here is you and I can prove it: take my challenge and order a paper from ET and see what happens. You'll get the exact paper you ordered, on time, and it will be 100% original work, or you'll get a 100% refund if nobody takes your order. That's not an advertisement; it's a simple challenge for you to prove the truth of what you're saying that ET is somehow a "scam" company, unless by "scam" you mean a company that provides customers exactly what it promises much more successfully than you do and with whom you can't compete without defaming dishonestly.

The forum member spontaneously inquired about requesting me on ET. Nobody advertised anything. I responded so that the customer would know what topics I handle because every time a customer requests me for topics I don't do I have to contact the administration and waste their time opening up the order to other writers and maybe also explaining to the customer later why the requested writer didn't provide the paper. My post was directed at anybody who already chose ET and/or me and not to anybody else still undecided about what company/writer to use.

As far as being busy goes, I don't care what you think and I'm never too busy to tell you to line up with Stupid4 to kiss my a$$.

No, Sh;thead, it's only you who can't understand the difference between advertising for new business and simply helping existing clients who've already made their choice about what company to use. My response was directed only to people who already use ET, not a solicitation directed at anybody else.


Again, explaining how things work at a company is not the same as recommending a company; I didn't recommend that anybody use any company and all I've ever said about ET on this forum is that it's a totally legitimate company that provides an honest service, which is 100% true.


I think what's not allowed here is recommending any company; I'm not recommending anything except maybe that you kiss my a$$.

I saw your order before but it's gone, which means someone already took it. There's not really an automatic function to let you know whether or not the order's been taken by a writer, but I don't have a problem checking the board for any ET customers here who need me to see whether or not a paper is still on the board. To do that though, I always need the 6-digit order number starting with a "1" not the other invoice number. I can also use a keyword (like "Sarbane") that I can search for with the Ctrl + F function. If your order # starts with "A2" I can use that too, but not if starts with "A1". Anytime.

As Pheelyks said, there's no such function on any of the sites that use me. As far as requests go, some of them have a function that allows you to enter a writer's name in a box; on ET, you just have type "Request for FreelanceWriter Only" in your order description, preferably as the first line of the description rather than at the end where it can be missed (or where writers who violate the rules and ignore specific requests for other writers can say they "didn't see it").

My formal degrees are History & Psychology undergrad and a graduate degree (JD) in U.S. Law.

Just way busier than I've ever been before...between the essay-writing sites and private clients, I'm basically writing all night 7 nights a week, sleeping from about 7 AM - 2 PM, and just trying to get a couple of workouts in a week...

If you're going to be ordering essays, the smartest thing to do is order a few small papers as far in advance of your deadline as possible. Don't wait until you have a major project to start experimenting and keep your costs down while trying out companies by ordering as early as possible.

Once you find a writer you like, stick with that company and always request that writer. If a company treats you unfairly, don't use them again and let everyone know to avoid them; if you're just not thrilled with the writer's work don't blame the company unless it's so bad that there's no excuse for their using that writer at all.

It's not much different from finding a good car mechanic: you either go by word-of-mouth referral from satisfied customers or you take your car in for minor stuff and gradually build trust in a shop and/or a specific mechanic who does good work and doesn't rip you off.

Get an AMEX card. I believe they're the most protective of their customers over any issue of fraud or discrepancy with what you receive for your money.

What language is that? It's definitely not English.

Ordinarily, you're not going to hear from us until your paper arrives unless there's some specific problem, question, or issues with the order. Most of the time, we have all of our pending papers listed in order of due date/time on our accounts and we just write them and send them in shortly before they're due.

If there's some problem with the sources or something is unclear in the order, I'll use the system function to contact the customer; same goes if I anticipate any delay that might cause an essay to be a few hours late. I that case, I may ask whether the customer can afford the few hours on his end; if not, I'll do whatever it takes (i.e. stay up all night) to get it done for a firm deadline on the customer's end. When they give me extra time, I usually give them a little extra writing to reciprocate.

Sometimes I'll have a paper due in several days and the customer will contact me to ask "how is it coming along?" as though it takes us a week to write a term paper. They don't realize that when you do this for a living, you routinely bang out a good 10-page essay in a single sitting and that we may write 4 or 5 (or more) essays of various lengths every single day.

If the service provides a way to contact the writer, he/she should respond at least to let you know there's no problem, but if you're contacting the administration, they're pretty busy and they're not in regular contact with writers. I would imagine they don't have time for e-mails that just ask "how is my paper coming along?" several days before it's due.

There's no need for you to take anybody's word either way. Just test out the company (or any others you might be considering) by placing a short inexpensive order now before you have a major project due.

If you place an order, you will definitely get the paper you ordered; it will be on time; and it will pass any plagiarism test available. If you want to test me out simultaneously, request me in your order. I'd suggest placing test orders to find a legit company and a writer whose work you like; then, always use that company and ask for that writer if the company allows you to make specific requests.

I write for about a half-dozen other companies. They're totally legit; if you placed an order you'll get your essay unless nobody's available or capable of writing it, in which case you'll get a complete refund. What's the topic or the order #?

Sites like turnitin only compare your work to: (1) material that is already posted somewhere on the Internet and (2) material that has already been submitted to them and retained in their databanks. It has nothing to do with what essay site provides any work if the student chooses to submit it as his or her own work for credit.

Commercial essay sites use their own proprietary software to test their writers' work because once it's submitted to a commercial service like turnitin, it goes right into their files and would get flagged the very next time it's run through. As long as the person who actually wrote the work didn't plagiarize it from another source, nothing that's custom written should ever get flagged; cheaper pre-written essays that have been resold many times are a totally different story, obviously. Any reputable company makes very clear which papers are pre-written and they charge a lot more for custom work.

I agree; I just don't think there's any point to trying to force someone to work on his or her writing. If you can't form a coherent written sentence by the time you're in college, I don't think mandatory written "research" assignments are going to help very much. People preparing for careers that won't involve much writing should have the option, not an obligation, to improve their writing in college. Anybody who actually benefits from college writing assignments only does so because he or she wants to work on writing. If you're studying nursing or mechanical engineering, all you really need to be able to write are e-mails at work and Post-It Notes on the frig at home.

That's one reason I greatly prefer papers that require more emphasis on the analysis: I don't have the patience to string together so many ideas from other sources; in my opinion, that's more of a pain that just writing what you have to say. I tend to do more papers that allow intellectual creativity and independent analysis with appropriate citations for any factual material or conclusions that aren't mine. I try to stick to one or two necessary citations per paragraph and I almost never actually quote anything except legal statutes and stuff like that. Many times, I purposely avoid papers where the student specifies to use lots of direct quotes or I try to explain that all those direct quotes only make the paper worse instead of better because it looks like nothing but filler in place of actual writing.

I would add that in most majors, the writing requirements are nothing but a hassle for students and serve very little purpose. That's particularly true when the topics are completely arbitrary and selected by the students. Engineers need to learn engineering science and that is hardly enhanced by having to sweat a "term paper" on the history of a specific bridge of their choice. Likewise, nursing students need to learn nursing science and protocols and benefit little from having to scrape together a paper about one particular disease. One of my best friends is a great nurse with 10 years experience now and he'd never have made it through nursing school if he'd had to have written his own papers on some diseases just to satisfy writing requirements. Only Journalism and Writing majors (etc.) should have to worry about writing requirements once they're already in college.

If professors really care that much about using turnitin, they just insist on a file. I highly doubt anybody intending to use turnitin would accept hard copy papers in the first place; they'd at least ask for an accompanying file in one format or another. I'm sure reusing your own work violates honor codes, but it's probably a much less serious offense than submitting other's work as your own.

It's an American company located in New Jersey. I write for them and they're totally 100% legit.

Glad things worked out. Nobody's doubting you personally, but this place if full of people pretending not to be in the industry who start threads like that just to try to hurt the reputations of the better companies with whom they can't compete fairly. Asking for an order number is just a way of trying to verify that the person complaining isn't one of them.

Well, for one thing, if the original poster told us the order number, those of us who happen to write for that company could at least verify that it's likely a legitimate order. I know how many digits and/or letters are in Research Topics orders, what the number format is, and whether the number provided is in the ballpark of the right sequence among current orders. I could also check the board for it and if there are any sources provided, I could still access those sources on the website. In fact, I watch the boards enough that if he told us the topic and some other information about the order, there's a very good chance that I'd recognize it from seeing it listed.

It may actually prove nothing; on the other hand, since there's absolutely no risk or other possible concern he could have about posting the order number here, it definitely suggests the original poster made all this up to disparage the company if he won't cough it up after being asked for it repeatedly. Posting the order number would at least go a long way toward establishing his credibility. I have nothing to do with administration and I have no ownership interest in the company, but if you give me the order number, I might be able to find something out for you. The company is 100% legitimate and I know at least one other poster here besides me writes for them. If nobody took your order, you'll see a full refund on your next credit card cycle. If a writer is working on it, it will be submitted soon because that writer won't get a paycheck for the month if any papers are still outstanding.

So, what's the order number/topic?

Leme get some popcorn for this...I'm going to just sit back and watch Mr. "I have wrote" fight it out with Mr. "put some revenge on us" about writing English. "AmericanWriter" should change his S/N to "AmericanWroter"

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Don't flatter yourself: this waste of a conversation is nothing I consider any type of "victory." It was just a simple question and nobody ever suggested you had any obligation to answer. On the other hand, it is a little weird that you'd choose to be so secretive about what other ethical interests you're equally involved in, especially on a board that's totally anonymous in the first place. And I wouldn't call it a "personal attack" that I suggested there's something a litttle fishy about someone with a law degree confusing so many basic issues in an argument and actually claiming "first amendment" privileges in response to a question about why you're so vocal about a specific moral concern.

I'm now starting to doubt your claim of having a law degree; nobody with any education in law would ever confuse the issue of the legal right to express an opinion publicly with a question simply asking you why you choose to be so involved in this specific issue.

Out of curiosity, what other types of forums and human issues you devote similar attention to? Or are you going to confuse that simple question with privacy infringement by the government and assert your "legal right" not to answer the question?


Speak for yourself. The only point I was discussing on this thread was your idiotic claim that no student who ever plagiarized any academic essay could possibly be professionally qualified in any academic area. I stand by that characterization and believe any objective person following this thread thinks it was an idiotic claim on your part.

Actually, the question is then why the preoccupation with a site dedicated to a profession with which you say you're no longer even involved?


It's not an "opinion" or about "feelings" at all. You have made a very specific testable claim that you say is true. The flawed reasoning behind it has been highlighted by several people. Personally, I'm perfectly comfortable letting anybody who reads this decide whether or not your suggestion that plagiarizing an essay in any subject means the student can't possibly be professionally qualified in engineering or nursing, etc (as opposed to writing) is completely ridiculous. All this nonsense about ethics is simply attempted deflection from that discussion.

In my experience, commercial sites usually charge a set price per page based on the due date. My private fees are based more on how difficult the paper will be for me and how long it will take me than on the due date except that I charge more for papers due in 24 hours or less. Beyond that, the extra time doesn't really help me because I usually write everything pretty close to the due date unless it's a particularly long or difficult project.

Sorry, had no idea that was prohibited outside of doing so for the purpose of solicitations.

Actually, I've agreed it's unethical; this conversation (on my end, anyway) is strictly about your idiotic statement that plagiarism on essays necessarily means the offending student isn't qualified in his or her field by virtue of ever having engaged in plagiariasm in any acadmic subject.

Again, you're confusing issues. The ethics of turning in plagiarized work as your own for academic credit has nothing to do with the issue of commercial copyright infringment, my relevant issue-challenged little friend.

Are you also such a vocal advocate against unethical behavior on tollboothcheating.net and taxshelters.org and forcedfemalecircumcision. net and shadystockbrokers.com? Why your particular preoccupation with this one specific aspect of unethical human conduct that is so much less harmful to society than so many others?

I assume you mean me, not "Freelancer" because that's somebody else here. You should be able to reach them via email.

That's your subjective opinion and you're entitled to it. But you're trying to justify it objectively by suggesting that plagiarism on academic essays necessarily means the student isn't qualified substantively, not that it isn't ethical. I'm not arguing the ethics or morality issue; I'm simply pointing out how stupid it is to say that plagiarizing an essay necessarily means a student isn't qualified by any objective measure of subject matter knowledge. Yes, it's as unethical and dishonest as cheating on tollbooths; but it has almost as little to do with whether a student is substantively qualified in any field...except the field of writing for a living.

In fact, it works both ways: being a great writer doesn't mean you're qualified in any professional field in which you happen to have a degree. You, for one example, say you have a law degree; yet you can't seem to grasp one of the most fundamental of all legal concepts of discussing one logical issue at a time without confusing them. That would be much more of an impedimant to practicing law than just plagiarizing a history essay in college or whatever the case may be if the person at least knew how to stick to one issue at a time and/or had the intellectual integrity not to deflect from a losing argument purposely just to save face in a meaningless anonymous conversation.


...and to whatever extent that may ever have been true about my private work, it doesn't apply to any of the commercial sites that use me now; I've already explained that they're as careful as anybody in the business to try to ensure that students don't use their product unethically.

I've been through law school and I've worked for a law firm; that kind of writing has nothing to do with any academic writing; you don't even do any writing in law school outside of your exams and maybe a single writing requirement project. Same goes for the type of writing in medical and social worker reports. I have another private client who graduated from Harvard Medical School with honors and doesn't have the time to do his MBA papers while working as a cardiologist; I'm not worried that he's "not qualified" in his field and I'm sure whatever he does with his MBA, it won't matter one bit who wrote his MBA stuff in school. Those professionals are all trained in their respective substantive areas and any shorcomings in their writing affect them, (if anybody) not their clients. My friend the RN didn't need to write his own papers on arbitrary topics of his choice in nursing school to write whatever he has to now as a practicing nurse either. The only professionals for whom plagiarism undermines their professional qualifications are those for whom writing is a primary vocational responsibility, not merely an incidental part and I highly doubt any of them would need ghostwriting or they wouldn't be going into those fields in the first place.


It bother me as much as when they "CHEAT" at the tollbooth...guess you missed that point or you wouldn't still be harping on this nonsense.

As I said, they're are issues that could be argued (such as integrity and honesty), but plagiarism on academic essays has almost nothing to do with whether or not students are qualified for any vocational fields other than those in which writing is among their principal rather than incidental responsibilities. I assume they don't have problems writing their grocery lists either.

I don't understand your logic at all. Assuming for the sake of argument that the students at issue do turn in other people's work as their own, the only people whose ability to do a job is "questionable" by virtue of cheating in that way would be someone whose job involves writing. If we're talking about nurses and engineers, their cheating on writing assignments is about as relevant to their future careers as their cheating at a toll booth by tossing in a slug instead of real coins. I don't think too many people who need to cheat on writing assignments choose future careers that require substantial writing either.

As a matter of fact, a very good friend of mine has been a practicing RN for 10 years now and he's great at his job, he's tremendously appreciated by all of his patients and his employers alike. Unfortunately, he's always been a very poor writer so I wrote about a half-dozen nursing papers for him when he was in nursing school. He worked very hard driving cabs to pay for nursing school, he studied very hard to pass his tests in school and his licensing exam, but he just can't write very well. My writing some papers on high-fiber diets, Freudian psychology, and schizophrenia for him had absolutely no bearing on his nursing skills. It would seem to me that cheating on substantive exams is much more relevant to professional qualifications than cheating on writing assignments, particularly when the topic of papers is completely a matter of arbitrary choice of the student to pick any topic related to nursing, as it so often is.

There are issues of honesty and fairness that could be argued but it's baffling how myopic your agenda is that you believe plagiarism in any academic area necessarily corresponds to questionable technical qualifications in every conceivable professional field. It's a pretty stupid statement.

It suddenly got dark all over the place. Anybody have any idea when it's going to get sunny again outside?