work for myessays.com, WB? I do! Have any experience with them? don't answer with a personal attack. just say yes or no.

based on my direct experience being actual employee of the company, I say, send them an email back thru Paypal... and WB you have what kind of problem with this? I'm sorry, are you saying it doesn't work? because I find that odd; I've done it, and gotten a response. it took them forever, and it is probably going to take them forever for Amehta, too, but eventually, they will now just be able to shoot an email back from the Paypal address, and they will also know whom to address by name. if they aren't reassured by this now, they will be eventually, so it's no big deal to me.

btw, WB, stay out of my informational post with your negativity and spite. when you reach 5000 negative, spiteful personal attacks and lies, WB, tell me: will you shamble out, blinking, into the daylight?

Amehta: I'm sorry; I didn't know they hadn't paid you yet. how long had you/ have you worked for them?

the proposition that WB is not someone who launches into a maniacal tirade is laugable.

some people are always so quick to defend themselves against racism-- when no one is even accusing them!

(WB is thinking right now: some people! that means me! time to sling some personal insults!)

however, face facts: you will not change anyone's mind by posting rape fantasies about them on anonymous internet posting sites with no membership screening procedures. do you not realize this?

anyway, there is no "ESL websites and writers," as a general cateogry; it is the dumbest trap you can fall into, called "stereotyping."

in other words, the title of this post belies its true nature as stereotyping... but this does not excuse the distasteful and vulgar reactions of certain individual people who need ESL lessons, rabid animals, and propagandists (Fracture, Researcher, etc.). have a nice day!

I am just trying to give you some advice. "dog" really isn't as much of an insult in English, for example. it's a clear marker that you're not really comfortable with the idiom. the more English speakers you actually know in real life matters-- how can you trade insults when you are simply translating your own expressions, which then make no sense in the culture of the new language? it is like trying to shoot something a mile away, using a shotgun.

I am as fully against WB's ignorance and prejudice as I am against your prejudice and inappropriately-phrased vulgarity. I suspect that she counts among her personal circle zero Ukrainians-- I also suspect that you count no Americans among yours.

I think that this statement shows your essential frustration here-- everyone calls you an idiot and imbecile, because you can't speak English adequately. you can't hold a job even at a shady paper mill, because you can't write English well enough. and you can't even insult people using an appropriate idiom, because you can't speak English without tipping your hand. as this above statement reflects, you now hate English.

the solution is not to blame or hate English-- it's to get better at it.

just think: you could be holding your own in arguments, without even having to refer to anyone's mother, sister, dog (this is not a curse needing starred or blurred, btw) or "phat ass" (this is actually a compliment).

ask yourself: can I afford ESL lessons? because let me tell you: they are an investment in your future happiness.

now I see the problem-- all along, you have been using a French dictionary.

we are speaking English here. you need to get an English dictionary. if you don't like Webster's, there are plenty of others...

gett off your hi petar.

I am no big Shakespeare defender or revisionist Tory.

but I know my expressions.

I like that petar means bomb originally, maybe, but Shakespeare was referring to a cannon.

that's about the level of your English usage, too, btw; you refer to a cannon as a bomb.

practice prepositions and verbs!

WB: get off the tip! I said it before!

I appreciate your skepticism. however, once again, if you can't figure out how to respond to a Paypal address, you're on your own.

I'm trying to point you in the right direction; you're brattily demanding a street number.

I'll accept your apology once they've paid you and you've responded.

till then.

far be it from me, an ESL teacher, to tell you, a raving maniac, how to speak English. no, you are beyond help...

it's actually "hoist on their own petar," I think. Shakespeare. but you knew that, right?

it's something I've said to WB previously, and you've picked up and started using.

annoying! am I charging you for ESL lessons?

I think that you're a vulgar troll, LieBuster. sharing a common enemy does not make us friends. stop using my lines.


you're the one who should be learning English. just, please... not from me. I'm not your teacher. I don't like you.

PS-- customers come on this site to ask questions and get answers. they don't come to read your endless stream of bile, which is, trust me on this, most definitely not entertaining. what sort of audience do you think you have here?

it's a frustrating language, and a hard one to learn.

you should really not be asking this question.

I am going to pretend you asked, "are there any language schools we can put here that teach ESL well?"

any big city will probably have a few ESL schools-- look for ones that are certified by the nation or state, and have been in business for a long time. talk to the students, and see what they say. also, ask yourself: does the ESL school have a curriculum and proprietary materials? how do they conduct assessment? do they offer courses in TOEFL for grad. students?

there are lots of good language schools out there where you can brush up on your English. if you are looking for specific companies, Berlitz is an international school-- it's very legit, very well established, and has great teaching methods. they are more about speaking than writing, but I happen to believe that these are complementary, rather than separate, disciplines.

good luck.

no one can promise grades.


and you are...?

it's hard to make blanket statements about pay, because there are lots of variables... how tough the material is, when the deadline is, etc.

if you have 2 weeks to do something, $7/page might be OK.

if you have 2 days, you might double that.

I've seen worse.

most companies will leave you 40-50% of the take, which is fair (?). all are going to take the lion's share. $7 a page is about average.

it's hard to tell from your example, because you don't list the order's page count.

being a writer in this industry often means contracting with middlemen. they do the marketing, drum up the business, and provide the customer service-- personally, I am willing to give them about half the revenue for this, because if I had to deal with some of these customers personally, you would see me on the evening news, on top of a clock-tower somewhere.

I've given you the basics. if you can't figure out how to respond to a paypal addy, you're on your own. no offense, but I have no idea who you are; for all I know, they refused all of your papers, and now you are planning a spam attack.

bebi, if your report has sections (introduction, lit review, methodology, findings, etc.), it might be best to divide the paper into sections, and do it a section at a time. that way, you don't have all of your eggs in one basket...

whatever, looney tunes, you can't turn it around at this point.

you're all tangled in your web of BS, and I'm over here, free, laughing at you.

don't worry, though. since I work for about a dozen of these places, I'm sure I'll have more inside information for you to steal and use as your own, in the coming days. so stay on my tip-- provided it's the negative tip, of course.

you have been officially hoist on your own petar. thanks for playing.

thanks for finding it. this is the one. this is the post you started not 24 hours after I tipped you off to EW's fining structures. at the time, it amused me. and now... it still does. wow, I would have never found it. thanks.

I don't really have to do anything at all-- you dismantle yourself.

I just tell the truth, give you enough rope, sit back, and relax. nice!


I'm not the one backdating posts.

I see the truth provokes a strong reaction in you. it is rather like a vampire, seeing the light. I agree; Chun Li is a coward! you don't have to do all caps, though; an exclamation point usually suffices.

WritersBeware

what a lot of BS! do you think people just see the links and go ooh, proof, and don't follow them?

you're probably right! well played.

I actually followed some of these, though, because I was horrified that you might actually be right... after I read the first 2007 posts and realized there was nothing about EW fines in them, I realized you are just putting on a little light-show... what a relief!

the one labeled Jan 9 2008 had comments from me in it... funny, because I joined in 2009... that's actually proof of my own point, because I'm the one bringing up EW fines in it, and you're following my lead. bakdating posts, shame on you.

well played, though. look at all the pretty links...

it's just like that scene in "Bloodsport" where Frank Dux is fighting Chun Li. Chun Li finally sees a little bit of a threat, after completely annihilating a bunch of ninnies, when Frank steps into the ring. Chun Li flexes, sizes Frank up, and decides that a pretty good move would be to throw a fistful of sand in his eyes.

the difference is that Chun Li revels in his evilness, and you act like an upright crusader about yours.

either way, the crowd goes: booooo...

I said my piece. my 2 bits of "news" about EW above were grist for your mill, that much is 100%. you were standing on the shoulders of... whomever was saying negative stuff that seemed true, and biting it hard. if you "beat these issues to death" before then, as you assert, why don't you back it up? I have better things to do than to research your arguments for you.

they will pay you-- probably 6 months to a year later than on-notice on their site, but they will pay you.

when they pay you, respond to the paypal notification.

when you do, don't forget to tell them how horrible their "open ticket" system is.

if you mean yourself by this, no. I think you're a deluded idiot.

if you mean Fracturegang, etc., no. it disturbs me that they taunt you with rape fantasies.

my beef is separate. I have no "company" here.


the instant I started posting about essaywriters.net fining writers, you started a new thread about some new information you "discovered" about essaywriters.net and fines. get off the tip.

the minute I wrote something about essaywriters.net low-balling writers, it suddenly became the sharpest weapon in your arsenal.

please. anyone can see you are reliant on others for your "facts." keep in mind-- I might have been lying. I might have been "planted" by the competition of this company to disparage them. you have no way of knowing, because you are an industry outsider with no power.


right, just because I acknowledge that the US has faults, I guess I'm unpatriotic. idiot.

wow, you're an idiot. this is getting really boring.

1. WritersBeware has no experience with the companies about which she directs her posts;

yep. for example, you lump academia-research.com in with essaywriters.com, just because they had the same original owners, and call both of them scams. if you had ever worked for, ordered from, or had actual experience with either, you would know that they are quite different. instead, you have to rely upon people like me, and cut and paste our experiences-- but only if they're negative. if I post an endorsement of a company, you're the first to try to shoot it down-- based on nothing but your dislike of me, and your blind devotion to the "forum rules" that all we can do is tear stuff down here. if I post something negative, you're the first to steal it and claim it as your own.

2. WritersBeware has no experience with Ukrainians or Pakistanis;

know any personally? I don't mean "know of." oh, and yelling at strangers on the internet isn't "experience."

3. WritersBeware has no experience with ESL writers;

I never said this-- I just said it was one of your "out group" categories. and once again, I don't count yelling at strangers on the internet as "experience."

4. WritersBeware is a nationalist.

you frequently defy detractors to "name one American scam company," and seem to see the ghost of Ivan Drago everywhere east of the former Iron Curtain. really now-- you don't think America has scam companies? pray tell: from what planet are you taking this perspective?

WB, by your version of proof, I guess I could cut and paste some of my own suppositions... but that's not proof. actually, you seem more of a nationalist, although again, let me say, I have no idea. I think you're racist. I think you don't have any experience with Pakistanis, Ukrainians, the huge and generic category of "ESL writers," etc., and you use them as "out groups" onto which you foist those qualities you find undesirable in your own group. it's an anti-essentialist impulse, and it's fairly common. we all have tinges of racism, especially if we were brought up in a particularly racist culture. mostly, it's about how we deal with it-- whether we reach out to see the individual humanity in these "out groups," or whether we alienate ourselves from them, seeing them all as a homogenous, sinister mass. in most of your posts about "Ukrainian fraudsters," etc., you seem to be doing the latter-- but I'm not sure. maybe your life is a rainbow of harmony, and you do nothing but build cross-cultural bridges-- what do I know? I don't think so, but I can't prove it, and I find your obsession with "proof" sort of funny, since this is the freaking internet, where any crackpot with their head up their *** can confuse fact and fantasy to their heart's content. no, WB, I have no proof that you're a racist-- just a really strong gut feeling.

I'm going to go ahead and decline that invitation, looney tunes. here's hoping you turn your life around.

mm-hmm.

meanwhile, let me just say, as an essay bank, myessays is a legit and totally awesome site.

as your idea of "debate" seems to consist of personal attacks, here we go...

you are a delusional, caustic, obsessive hag. plus, you're out of your mind. you are a rabid Cold War revisionist, and a racist, nationalist, bilious twit. you are a twisted, bitter outsider, blighted and ugly on the inside. you have no power in the industry, only delusions. you have no experience with half of the companies you claim are scams. several times, you have stolen points from my own informational posts on these companies (based on experience), and started new threads with them... like some kind of carrion bird, cackling and stealing a strip of zebra from the lion who killed it. not one of the personal threats you have so bombastically made against me has amounted to ***-all. most of the companies you lambast as scams continue to operate, either blissfully ignorant of, or amused by, your ineffectual ****-fits. I feel sorry for you. I'd like you to change, get a life, and somehow become charming and informative, or even funny, but I know that it will never happen. it's a shame, really. you have the intensive focus and energy of someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder-- you could put all that behind something constructive, and be a real force. till then.

I'm sorry-- what does this have to do with myessays.com? speaking of unprovoked attacks...

if you want to start a new thread and call me a coward, I'd be glad to hand you your ass again. this thread is informational.

charming.

"monkey want banana" is apparently WB's new refrain. it makes them look like a racist 8 year old.

of course, that doesn't mean you should fight fire with fire. as Ghandi and MLK say, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

WB-- someone has to tell you this: it wasn't even funny the first time.

you're welcome, Exdecent.

I'd also like to answer the question you actually asked, rather than repeating what I already told you and over-complicating it.

pricing is variable, depending mostly on when you need the paper. for 24 hours, companies will put the screws on, generally-- for 2 weeks, you have more leeway, because you seem less desperate. that makes for a pretty huge difference in price-- 24 hours, maybe $25 per page; 2 weeks, maybe half that, or even less. this is just ballparking it-- of course, companies will have diff. prices as well.

good luck!

a lot of writers were lit majors who are now being forced to write about nursing and sociology. my guess is that your order will get lots of fierce bidding. as far as pages, you get what you pay for. I suggest that you keep the draft, order 10, and then do some polishing and combining, before you hand it in.

good luck.

stick and guess away-- you're the one trying to make this into a ******* contest. feel free to declare yourself the winner all you want. you can print out a sheet of this BS, and make yourself a little paper crown.

as to student inquiries on these threads, I don't market or accept services here. I don't think that's what this forum is for. knock yourself out, though.

right, I didn't say I could write 10/day, you're not bragging, etc. excuse me, I have to go vomit.

try seeing past all that trash you've stored up in your optics, you buffoon. that original post you dredged up was made during busy season. I was adding 10 pages to my daily total of about 20-25, and deeming it possible, but hampered by the fact that it would be hurried, rushed, and frustrated crap. which it would. and it wouldn't be me doing the price gouging-- it would be those mr-ns in charge, whom you're defending. right, they're all princes, and the customers are all pillars of their respective communities... and you, their humble pet!

BS! a "yes, but..." is still a "yes." nice try.

there are 3 types of people in the world-- fools, smart people, and slaves.

PS-- the "mr-ns" I was talking about are the company owners. wash your eyes out.

my answer to "is it possible to write a 10 pp paper in a day?" was "yes." you did all that work retrieving the post, just to prove my point. and in the process, you torpedoed the main conceit of your argument against me. thanks.

you're like me-- you're rolling a boulder up a hill for mr-n. try taking yourself a little less seriously.

just as you will continue to brag about, and have pride in, your unsigned busywork for scumbags, I will continue to assume that you are a dumb, delusional power-tool.


if you look back, the point I was making about bartending was that the essay industry is stable. people will also always want to cheat, just like they'll always want to drink.

can you even read?

I never said the essay industry was unstable.

I also never said I couldn't write a 10 pp paper within 24 hours.

talk about assumptions.