Good for you! :) So ... skilled academic writers can make a living?

Actually, I am willing to bet that EW would take WB over you any day! Pls note that while he often banters with WB, he quite studiously ignores you.

EW - am I pathetic as IT claims? :(


Do you not understand how absolutely faulty your evidence is. You have WB defending EB against your accusations, just as you earlier had me defending AA/AK. Were you to read other posts you will see that this really never happens. Why do you think it happened here? Let me guess ... is it because there is a difference between baseless accusations/slander and accusations based on verifiable evidence?


Whatever do you base your belief that you destroyed us all in arguments on? When we choose not to respond, it is because your arguments are completely purile. We do get bored, you know ... If, however, you want to believe that we are running away because we have been defeated, that is your perogative. Live happily in your illusions ... no skin off anyone's back ...


Pls prove that customers have been cheated ... just name one time. You can't ... could it be 1) you have no evidence and, hence, are engaging in slander; 2) you know absolutely nothing about our "companies," and 3) as usual, you do not know what you are talking about.


Many have done that whn evidence of real fraud was put forward.


I do not give out my personal number, no. I do, however, give out the work one ... what's the big deal?!


Ok - this is getting really quite sick. First it was east and west, then it was master and slave! Is it now colour and race?! I really do not believe it at all appropriate to bring race and colour into this debate or, indeed, forum ... apart from its being irrelevant and quite insulting, it speaks of your assumption that all here are racists (not at all true) ... that only serves to establish how truly messed up you are!


No we can't. If you had ever been there you would know that what you are saying is ridiculous - "I am as reachable as a needle in a haystack!" What's your postal code? Lacrosse Avenue, what number ...?


I sincerely doubt that! It is a master of prose, or should I say slayer?

First of all, and contrary to your assumption, essaybay is not "one of my companies." As someone who worked as a writer there, however, I can easily discard your so-called evidence as ... .

1) we, as the writers, set the currency we are to be paid in just as the customer sets his/hers. Hence, if there is a difference between customer and writer currency preference, you will always find the one paying in a partcular currency and the other in a different one. For instance, my preference was pound sterling but I often had customers whose preference was US dollar. CURRENCY DISPARITIES IS NOT PROOF OF FRAUD.

2) the customer is the only one with the authority to release the escrow - this is what escrow is. Hence, it seems that the customer was a novice and did not know how to release the escrow payment.

3) essaybay cannot seize an escrow payment for itself - that is just how it works. They simply do not have the authority.
4) Yes - their customer service (I haven't written for them since Sept 2008, so that is the cut-off date for my first-hand knowledge) is really really bad

I had a customer who did not pay me. Gave me this whole rigmarole about how he would do so in 2 days, as he was awaiting money to put in his credit card. Meanwhile, he needed the paper in 24 hrs. As I had worked with him before, I took the risk. He was dishonest but it was my fault not essaybay's ... I did not go around crying foul because it was my fault.

As to why the escrow was never released to you, I guess only Jennifer or Carly can tell you that.

Why aren't you able?! You are, quite obviously, very qualified. If they don't recognise that ... well, they aren't very intelligent, are they?

correction - meant it would NOT experience a high writer turnover rate

I still stand by my contention that instituting a fine-policy is not necessary. A very strict and thorough recruitment policy can go a long way towards ensuring that the writers ultimately contracted are reliable, responsible, educated and in posession of absolutely flawless linguistic skills. Hiring good writers is the company's responsibility and should a company satisfy this responsibility, it would not need a fine structure. I am not saying that I am right but I sincerely hope I am.

Right you are ... more often than not, customers are referring to spelling, not style.

I see where you are coming from and concede that you have a point. But, try to look at it this way - suppose a writer with a track record of reliability and consistently excellent work slips up ... the choice here is whether to talk to the writer and try to understand the source of the slip-ups (if they are repeated twice) or to fine the writer and push him or her out. I would prefer to talk to the writer and give him/her a break from work, if needed, rather than fine him/her. Good writers don't come easily EW and when a company finds one it should do what it can to hold on to him/her.

It also makes sense from a business point of view. Should we calculate how much the writer in question averages the company per month versus what we gain from a few small orders, the scales would tip in the writer's favour. Furthermore, if a company stands by its writers, it would experience a high writer turnover rate. This means that over time, it would have built a strong writer-base, one which is familiar with the company's ins and outs. Not to mention, of course, that the company would, through this strategy, acquire writer-loyalty.

As for bad writer, hopefully, a stringent recruitment policy would limit the possibilities of one joining a company.

I would like to add two things:
1) if a company has staff-writers, they can pick up the slack. Furthermore, if it really has a quality control department, the customer will not be on the receiving end of poor work because it would have been caught and corrected by quality control. Hence, customers would not necessarily be lost; and

2) companies should only exercise this strategy vis-a-vis writers with a good track record and not with ones who have not proven themselves. In the case of untested writers, if they plagiarise, they are out ...

My views may change over time but, at the moment, the carrot looks pretty good ... don't like the stick much :)

Primarily it's the spelling. To a lesser degree, it is the style. Americans prefer a direct, to the point approach while we enjoy our verbiage :) The more complex the sentence and the more complicated the vocabulary, the more it is appreciated. Where British academic writing is concerned, the writer/researcher is expected to show-off his/her command of the language. American English - infinitely more straightforward and less linguistically complex.

Sorry for that - you are completely right

Yes, we do have a nice system in place :)


Americans, as in the people, tend to be very popular everywhere. Honestly ... there is something so basically jolly and down-to-earth about Americans!


You are right! Lord Voldemort is going to think it's an insult :)

Remy - (as I do not offer my services as an independant writer, I can say this) - read the posts here (the forum). Some of the writers here are really terribly good ... you can identify the good ones (excellent education and writing skills) by carefully reading through the posts. Don't focus on what they say as in how they express themselves. Try to make an arrangement with one of those writers. If you prefer not to work directly with a writer, ask them which website they work for and get their writer's ID. Place your order through that site and put them down as your preferred writer.

Remy ... you really have to research your options and talk to company reps and writers before you hand over your dissertation to any ...

And do ask Writersbeware if she has any info on the company ...

Brits can be a bit xenophobic :) You guys tend to be much nicer ...

Top-notch advice and very objective!

can't seem to find essays ... are you referring to ivyessays. If so, their webcopy is quite respectable, well-written. Wait for a second opinion, though, before you make up your mind. Writersbeware would probably have some info on them ...

:)...

You have that right, Pheelyks. Let's say a writer has a good track-record and then, for reasons unknown, begins to slip up a bit. The slip-ups could be a consequence of any number of factors, including personal problems. Now, does this mean that the writer should get fined or fired? Of course not! The writer gave the company a lot and the least s/he can expect in return is a modicum of understanding and respect. So, where decent writers who have proven themselves reliable, are concerned, it is different ...

Good academic writers are extremely valuable where companies in this industry are concerned. They should be treated accordingly.

As for one-strike out ... some thoroughly check for plagiarism prior to passing on the work to the customer. Supposing plagiarism is detected, the writer is very nicely and politely asked to correct the situation. S/he can easily do so by refering to the plagiarism report. Let's suppose that this happens once every few papers ... no problem (especially as everything is corrected prior to the customer's receiving the paper) but what if it happens twice in the first three orders a new writer submits? As far as I am concerned, this means that the writer really does not understand academic writing requirements and should look for another line of work.

What I am saying here is that a writer who has proven him/herself (can do so almost immediately) will be valued, if only because companies in this industry are built by such writers ....

Trust you to pick that up :) You made my day! :)

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You are so obvious and your posts are terribly contradictory. Here you say that no service can be trusted and yet, in other posts (eg: https://essayscam.org/forum/es/reliable-research-writing-services-capable-meeting-900/2/ you promote fastcustomessays.com. There is hardly a forum member here who does not understand that you are trying to slam all services in an effort to push potential customers to your site.


That you should blast writers from India is both hypocritical and insupportable. Do you know why? Because fast custom essays is an Indian company. The only thing wrong with that is your attempts to deceive potential customers into thinking otherwise by blasting Indian writers. BTW, a writer should only be assessed according to linguistic skills and academic qualifications. Any writer, whether from the east or west, a native or an ESL speaker, have to be evaluated according to the following:

1) do they have the necessary academic qualifications and have they provided proof of those qualifications?
2) is their written English flawless and completely devoid of any mistakes?
3) does their work come across as having been written by a cultured and educated native speaker?

With specific reference to fastcustomessays, any who order from it are taking a big chance. You know why? Because their webcopy is full of language mistakes. When a company which presents itself as a professional academic-writing services cannot manage to compose a good webcopy, that means customers should stay away.

Were you to have openly stated that you were an Indian company, rather than go out of your way to blast Indian writers, the only problem would have been your poor webcopy - easily correctable. However, you chose to deceive and that is difficult to correct.

I will dearbats ... this is very sensible advice.

MODERATOR could you please set this delusional fool straight!!!! Do we own this forum??? If the fool had any sense or even knew how to read, he would have realised that our threads were removed as well.

Website is pretty but the webcopy is awful. Take a look at this: theessay.co.uk/essay/aboutus.asp - Our Writers

To make sure that you get authentic work, we have hired the best writing brains. Our writing team has over 200 writers. Unlike most online writing services that employ under-educated, armature writers, The Essays only hire master's degree holder writers. Most of our writers hold prior writing experience as well.

I can't even begin to point out what's wrong with the above ... nothing is right. If the company is incapable of producing a well-written webcopy, that is a clear sign that you should stay away.


I see! Their webcopy is absolutely horrible. The English just does not make sense ...

I left Academia-Research because, after they literally begged me to take on a couple of dissertations whose deadline had already expired (I am in posession of the supporting emails), they fined me for late delivery. They later conceded that they were, indeed, mistaken and would reverse the fines immediately. Three months passed without reversal and then they had the temerity to claim that they had reversed them. I had, by the way, taken up both orders from writers who had basically plagiarised everything and had to, therefore, write them from scratch. I had never ever been fined by any company before, including AR. That incident, on top of everything else, led me to terminate my account there and then.

I agree with WB (and have repeatedly stated this), companies should not have a fine structure in place except, maybe, for late delivery. They should pay more attention to the type of writers they recruit and ensure that they have the requisite academic qualifications and linguistic skills. I find it ridiculous to fine writers for poor quality because the companies themselves hired them, knowing that they were not qualified.

As for fining for plagiarism and this policy (followed by Academia-Research) of three strikes and you are out ... absolutely ludicrous. There really is not such thing as unintentionl plagiarism - at least among `professional academic writers.' Hence, any self-respecting, legitimate company would implement a one-strike out policy.


Customessays.co.uk is Academia Research, as are masterpapers.com, capitalessays.com, ma-dissertations.com, etc.

that kiran person appeared before on another thread, another name and i pulled that same info out. Again????!!!!!

Considering that every Tom, Dick and Harry assumes that operating a custom-research company involves little more than taking out a site, stealing copy from others and then just getting the writers and the customers together, believe me that is not at all the case. It is so much more than that ...

yes do. While personally opposed to fines as companies should take responsibility if they hire unqualified writers, the practice is hardly a disciplinary one anymore. Instead, it is a strategy designed to ensure that writers are paid less than initially agreed-upon.

The "misunderstanding" was premeditated ...

Love that!!!

of course i was premium. Again, was answering a question you raised when you said I was speculating. As mentioned in my previous post, in light of your attitude, will not address any of your posts, since you are not interested in responses


thank you pheelyks! That is precisely it. The recruitment process has to be more thorough, leaving no room for screw-ups. If a company is lax and hires a writer whose English is poor and/or does not have the requisite academic qualifications - it is really the company's fault, not the writer's. And if less than adequate writers are assigned work after they submitted less than quality work on a previous order, the company should not fine the writer. It assigned him/her the work despite knowing that s/he was incapable! Recruiting good writers, reliable writers - and then holding on to these writers - is what should be done.

If I hear of another paper being made ...!!! Paper made = manufactured! In this industry, we do not manufacture paper and hence, do not make papers. We write papers; papers are written here and not made!

How does this sound ... 3 years, hundreds upon hundreds of projects completed, last year there averaged min 3k per month with them; last 8 months alone accumulated 511 reward points. So, not trying to be a prophet here but simply tried to tell you that they are only seemingly better than the others. You seem like a decent person who has already been burnt before so was trying to tell you to be careful. However, you do not want to hear that so will not volunteer again ... To each his own

you will be back here crying before long. Sean is nice, as are Jessica and Melissa. Alex Wesson (real name Alexey), the owner, is nothing but a fraudster. Don't rely on them too much for income and, genuine word of advice, try to find a more authentic company, one which appreciates its writers and is straightforward with them ...

Everybody - I have been defeated, finished and exposed. I "can never any argument" from Mr Fantactic of the near-perfect TOEFL score. I am a lier and a fraud just like Darwin, Einstein and Newton :( I am also an idiot as I cannot fly, walk on water, or lavitate, and if I try to walk on glass or through fire, I'd probably get all cut up and burnt. I am so ashamed of myself!

This is quite shocking. It is also illegal ... promoting themselves through the exploitation of the Sheraton name. not to mention their claiming that a university is actually supporting and promoting them! Co-branding by force ... a very very tempting thought, were it not for the fact that some have to adhere to the letter of the law. Seriously, though, there has to be an end to this ... I am going to do some research on the unfair competition angle as false advertising is, by law, a form of unfair trade practice ...

Sounds about right

Breaking News - Caca has declared us the fraudsters! Apparently everyone here is a fraudster except it.


Of course you are!
1) Don't you expect any who claim to be professional writers to use proper English? That means you are a racist.
2) Don't you expect arguments to be based on facts? Then you are a racist.
3) Don't you expect a modicum of logic here? THAT MAKES YOU A RACIST.

Seriously, though, and for the very last time ...
1) companies which defraud customers or writers should be exposed but allegations have to be supported.
2) Any who expect to be taken seriously as an English-language writer should be able to write in PROPER ENGLISH
3) Any company which hides crucial facts from its customers (facts which influence the purchase decision) is dishonest

What is so wrong with any of this?

You cheat! You lier! As if any here would ever believe that Brilliant Chacha, Master of the English Language and the Knower of All Truth, would have made such an asinine comment! I am truly dissapointed in you Pheelyks ... it is very clear that you are terribly jealous of Chacha and are maligning it because thing is taking all your customers away!


Just this thread WB? The forum itself has descended to that level. False accusations, left, right and centre and if you make a peep, then you are one and the same as the company you are defending. Apparently, you are not supposed to ask any to back up their allegations ...


I didn't want to comment on this until I was better informed. I asked my IT guy (has a master's degree in the field from a really reputable university) and he said that the practice is both standard and popular. It does not constitute spamming and if it did, millions of sites would be banned ... He thought the accusation rather ludicrous and probably made by a total web-ignoramus.

Not only is that comment very archaic but it is absolutely racist - it reflects your assumption that any from the developing or newly developed countries have an inbuilt slave mentality! You really know very very little ...


Unfortunately, that is so true ...


We are in good company. Apparently, Darwin is as much of a liar and a cheat as all of us here ... with the soul exception of the Great Lord Chacha of Brunchland.


I think we all, with the exception of the Unique Chacha, can make the same claim :)


Please do not talk law ... actually, I am begging you! It took all I had not to comment on your business "law" remarks ... let's not get into your assumptions regarding the roots of law!


Waiting for you to educate us ... how could we know anything if you don't tell us!?


Pheelyks ... you are just plain cruel!!! You are using too much logic and too many facts ... don't confuse the poor sod!


Unless the Fool decides that you are not.

My English fails me ... what does this mean?

And, if we criticise such horrid English (written by people who are selling their services as professional English writers), we are accused of racism, jealousy and of spreading lies. Does any of this make sense??

chacha421
As many or as little as you chose you fool. Calling you a fool is not a racist comment, by the way, but a statement of fact directed at you as a person. And when you quote any of my comments, place them in their correct context you idiot.

And ... another statement of fact ... you do not represent ESL writers, whether as regards linguistic or academic qualifications. You are not, in terms of linguistic, cultural and educational qualifications, in the same league as many of the self-confessed ESL writers here ... some of whom did not need to make that declaration as their English is perfect.

Another thing ... interpret this as racist if you want ... I will close down my business before I ever consider one such as you as a writer ... you know what I mean, idiot. Just as I turn down unqualified native speakers, I turned down unqualified ESL speakers as well - no difference.

I am a legit UK business and very poud of the fact that I have wonderful ESL writers with me.


I m being very serious here now ... there are some insults which I do not take lightly. To be called a racist is one of them. I defy you to pick out one instance of racism in any of the posts I have made.


I certainly do not charge peanuts as our writers, whether native or ESL, are way too qualified to be paid peanuts and I certainly will insult neither their qualifications nor their hard work by offering them PEANUTS.

:) I own this forum? How lovely!!! Mods, as the Dancing Fool will attest to, I own this forum ... does this mean I can promote my ... here?!