Apparently an essay organization gave my IP address to that company so that they were able to match my IP address to my Personal Email address.

1. Unless you own your own server - your IP address is shared with sometimes thousands or tens of thousands of different computers so in most cases knowing your IP has nothing to do with the ability to "match your email."

My account on an online site is anonymous. It does not have my email address or any other personal information.

2. They don't allow anonymous postings (just like this site) -- before posting a message you must provide username + email address. I'm not sure where you took the "anonymous account" from.

3. They refunded your money (most companies will not do that unless your lawyer calls them) -- it proves they are not as "bad" as you describe it. You got your money back and you still try to slander them...

3. Don't know if you are aware of the fact that posting personal emails on a public forum is considered unethical (if not unlawful).

Nicole, my solution would be -- go and set up your own blog (I have provide you with the link in my earliest post). Then describe the situation and post a link to the blog here because I don't think it is allowed to post slandering information (wheather justified or not) on here.

I agree, but that's another pair of shoes... I think it's not legal to post just whatever one likes.

Member agrees not to transmit through the Service any unlawful, harassing, libelous, abusive, threatening, or harmful material of any kind or nature. Member further agrees not to transmit any material that encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability or otherwise violate any applicable local, state, national or international law or regulation. Attempts to gain unauthorized access to other computer systems are prohibited.

Tos - blogger.com/terms.g

It's simple -- you wrote something about the company they have verified that it is legit. They tried to help you by possibly asking the company to assist you. Don't see anything wrong with that - especially that they don't try to hide they may do so on special occasions.

Nicole, you titled this topic: "Worst Customer Service Ever - They Canceled My Order To Retaliate".

Do you think cancelling an order equals "Worst customer service ever"? I would be very happy if I dealt with a company that refunded my money without mye contacting them several times at least.

It would probably not make me happy, but personally - if I was a student - I would MUCH RATHER PREFER to get my money back (even in the last minute) than to get a plagiarized paper and jeopardize my education (not to mention having to deal with the company to refund the money). I bet there are hundreds of other companies that would take your money and deliver whatever just to take the money and run.

I think you just overreact in this case.

I've worked with dozens of "legit" companies (are the "500 companies" legit enough?) and they screwed something up so often that you'd even be surprised.

The above post explained most of my questions.

Well, I think you did overreacted. You should know that when you buy a service from a company, they are not your slaves. As they say, s*it happens and the fact that something was not 100% perfect doesn't mean it's always like that. Again, I would appreciate the fact that they were fair enough to tell you it was not possible to deliver a good-quality paper on time; I bet you would have to go thru much more stress if they didn't refund your money.

So you guys are selling your assignments?

I wouldn't hire you, Daniella (assuming you write an essay for a company and then try to profit from it again).

For sure, I wouldn't order an essay from any ".co.uk" domain now knowing companies from the UK try to profit twice for doing the same job.

What?!!?? What do you mean "requires"? It's like your teacher told you "you must buy a X brand laptop to use on my course; otherwise I'll fail you". Turnitin sux and they use your copyrighted work to cash in. Then they store your papers forever to "compare" results of other works with your work. How much commission do they pay you??

Teachers are lazy and think they can "require" the student to do the job for them. What kind of world do we live in?

Forgot to add - I wonder who's "great" idea it was but it was "smart"... As far as I know teachers require the students to submit papers to Turnitin THEMSELVES. Then, when there's a problem, they think they will not be liable for the copyright infringement.. because the student - not them - submitted the paper to the turnitin system.

Smart...

OK, this is what I've just realized. Assume an essay company writes a paper for me.

Most of these companies claim that "before sending the paper to the client, we scan papers for plagiarism using advanced anti-plagiarism software, including Turnitin".

So yet before they send me the paper, this paper is likely to be in the anti-plagiarism corporations databases and it would be of no use for me! If turnitin and such keeps the scanned papers and then my teacher runs the paper again, it will show the paper is plagiarized! LOL

Is that right?

I'm not into essay writing business, but this is what I assumed when I read something like that: "We scan papers using anti-plagiarism software" - after all turnitin and similar systems is in this category, isn't it? Using a local software on your local computer should be "safe", but submitting a paper through an online software would be way too risky.

I could edit your paper - post it here :). It depends what you need. Do you want to paraphrase a paper you borrowed from your colleague? :)

Hmm - I don't know.. But if you put your name or something that means you are the author, aren't you.

Don't see a problem posting a full name then - why wouldn't you? In school or class or places like myspace people usually use their real names.

Regarding turnitin - because of such systems people will soon stop posting anything and the Internet will be dead. :|) I still cannot believe they don't pay anything the real owners and are like vultures who make money on people's original content.

I don't think you're from "Nambia" so just because of that I would ban you since your posts are as likely to be fake. No wonder other forum mods ban you, too.

Or a blog - I can give you some tips on that if you ask.

"gantoris", it seems you tried to register on the Essay Advisor or any other site, intentionally posted a bogus or nonsense message so that you could do a screen shot and libel them on other forums.

Who else takes screen-shots of forum messages? Why would a normal poster need them other than to used it against them somehow?

Bencole,

My point is - Essay Advisor or this site are not providing writing services. So how come a "regular poster" knows "so much" about a non-profit organization and follows it to post the same links over and over again? What is his/her interest? I'm positive "gantoris" is one of the essay writing company owners. Do you know any other person who is posting slander against, let' say, the Red Cross or an Anti Abortion Foundation?

So Ben, are you writing your dissertation on the essay writing business yourself or have a company write it for you? When you want to be objective I would assume you have to write it yourself (or you'll only have dubious content like provided by "radio" or "gantoris"..

I run a political blog and my interest is in anything that is controversial. I find both academic dishonesty or anti-plagiarism software systems controversial so I post here. But then as you say - treat my posts as being dubious, but I don't mind that.

Well, my blog is invitation-only (my posts are somewhat controvertial and I don't feel like public to know about it). But if admin has your email I may give them my permission to contact you in my name.

Maybe I'm sometimes a little naive, but I completely don't get your point. The clients (students) buy academic writing services and they will be happy ONLY when the following points are met:

1. The paper is written in a perfect American English by an American-native speaker.

2. The paper uses references available for the American colleges/universities.

Maybe Ben could provide more information, but I assume the companies in the US or Canada may have no more than 15-20% of international clients (based outside the US/Canada). If I owned a writing company, I would shout "Buy American" on my home page - just to protect my customers from ESL writers who most of the times cannot do a good job. How else can you provide a good writing service if you and your writers are not based in the US/Canada?

My point was - why do foreign companies (based outside the US/Canada) don't write papers in their Native language for their native clients? Why a company from France would even try to write papers in English for American clients? Why don't they write in French for French clients? Because the quality of papers written by a French writer cannot be compared to the one written by the American writer.

But "the French company" won't reveal it's actually based in France, not in the USA/Canada, will it? I think Essay Advisor wants to point that out and it's a good thing.

I consider some of the posts and articles at the site as eye-openers. For example, the one about Turnitin and their true intentions/affiliations. Or sections related to fake universities and "the academic diploma business."

I for one believe it's not as easy as you think it is. Based on the posts and some of the people who are involved in the "essay writing business" if I run such an organization as Essay Advisor or Research Writers Today (which BTW doesn't have contact information either), I would not post a phone number or physical address. Why? Because I would be afraid that one day such vivid posters like "gantoris" would come to my door and try to kill me for what I have posted or not posted on my site. Not to mention those who run multi-million $$ diploma or university factories - I would just be afraid they would do anything to stop me from revealing the truth.

My conclusion is this: You sometimes cannot win against a multi-million dollar corporation (Essay Relief and their affiliations, for example), but you can try to fight against them. I'm sure "Daily Mail" can afford to have 24-7 security systems against dissatisfied readers (since they actually make money from ads and their buyers), but relatively small non-profit organizations like Essay Advisor cannot afford that. But it doesn't mean their influence should be less important.

"Disappearing threads" may be due to a number of reasons (that are not actually known by the readers). Quite often, for example, a poster posts something and then asks me to delete his/her post because "s/he realized the post was irrational or had no factual basis." Or s/he doesn't want her name to be indexed by search engines etc. In such forums like this, the poster who wasn't initially happy with a particular company can always email admins and tell them the problem has been resolved and the topic or post gets deleted. Etc etc.

One time I had a poster who asked me (rather firmly) to delete "his topic" the day after he's received three valuable answer from other posters. I refused to do it.

It depends. If the post is somewhere "in the middle" of the discussion, that shouldn't be a problem. BUT when the topic starter wants the post deleted OR there are other posters that quote the original poster, that could be a problem.

In fact, most forum or blog software DOES NOT (technically) allow to delete the first post of the thread without deleting the entire topic.

As far as I know there are dozen of proxy servers that are based in the US so if someone abuses the system, the only way is to block the IP or range of IPs. There may be thousands of computer users under one IP, not to mention a range of IPs.

Well, then you must have posted something on their site that breached their rules. Using a special software I don't think it's difficult to determine the poster's IP.

So Gantoris, you must be either a student, teacher, or an essay writing company owner. Why would you care about which sites are put or not put online? People write good/bad stuff all the time.

Good points, Paul. Well, NOW I think I get it - the American websites have to pay their writers substantially more than the foreign companies so their margin profit could be much lower. And the foreign companies try to persuade their clients they are actually based in the US (not abroad) so that they could charge as much as the companies that in fact are based in the US -- in order to enjoy bigger profits.

Is my reasoning correct?

It seems to me some newspapers claimed the same about some websites that sell diplomas etc and Essay Advisor exposed them.

What do you mean? I can access the site without problems.

cammy
You write you ordered a paper and never received it. There could be many reasons for that. Anyway - you don't write anything if they actually refunded your money. I assume they did (otherwise you'd write something about that).

If they did refund your money (or didn't even charge you in the first place), and you still continued slandering them, I think they have the right to sue you and they would most likely win.

It works both ways - you didn't pay a cent, so why do you post bad things about them? There are many students who actually paid for the service using other companies and never received the paper and the company didn't want to refund the money.

If only people had a little more patience and learn how to deal with these stupid email filters - life would be so much easier......

What?? 20 minutes to write a page (about 300 words?). Maybe you meant "to TYPE". Did you include time for researching/finding sources/reading sources? It takes me at least a few hours overall to write a 1-2 page article.