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Crab mentality (some writers try to make customers think they are the only choice)



pheelyks  
Nov 18, 2009 | #41
the point is, nobody's perfect

I never claimed to be. Just a lot better than monsta--which is only natural, as English is my first (and only) language. This "mistake" wouldn't be considered so in dialogue, either; monsta asked a direct question, which I responded to--in context (which I thought I created by quoting his question), I would not be required to use the set-up "I am ranked so low on essaybay because..."
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Nov 18, 2009 | #42
everyone should learn at least 1 other language.
WritersBeware  
Nov 18, 2009 | #43
My Pseudonym followed by a dash, is not professional.

Placing a comma immediately before a verb-especially a "to be" verb-is a sign of incompetence. Sorry.
AsianWriter  - | 162  
Nov 19, 2009 | #44
The purpose of this forum is first and foremost to warn potential users of essaywriting services about the corruption which occurs within the industry

Writing sub-standard papers by failing to use proper English is a form of "corruption"!

Engineers study for many years to master their craft. Programmers do the same. If someone without the proper skills presented himself as an engineer or a programmer... or even a doctor, wouldn't that be "misrepresentation"? Wouldn't that be "criminal"? Wouldn't that be a form of "corruption"?

Why then is writing English essays any different? If you don't write correctly, you cheat the client and you "corrupt" the industry!
monsta2005  2 | 33  
Nov 19, 2009 | #45
Writing sub-standard papers by failing to use proper English is a form of "corruption"!

Thats why im rated so highly on the transparent feedback system on Essaybay? Stop talking nonsense. Me delivering sub-standard papers? This coming from a writer based in the Philippines? My feedback and qualifications speak for themselves-there is no need for me to focus my efforts on attempting to discredit any individual writer. I can only think of a couple of reasons why you would focus your efforts on trying to discredit me.

Why then is writing English essays any different? If you don't write correctly, you cheat the client and you "corrupt" the industry!

Everyone is capable of judging a writer's abilities based on information presented in this forum. For example, your profile states that you are based in the Philippines; by even being in the industry can be viewed as a form of corruption by others, should they choose to adopt a confined and illogical approach to judging a writer's abilities. The education standards within the Philippines are not comparable to those either in the UK nor the US. That is a fact. Stop being so immature and perhaps focus your efforts on improving your self-esteem. Regards
pheelyks  
Nov 19, 2009 | #46
Me delivering sub-standard papers? This coming from a writer based in the Philippines?

There are so many things wrong with this statement, on so many levels. First of all, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that the first clause (it isn't even close to a complete sentence) is a hilarious Alfred E. Newman paraphrase whose grammar was murdered atrociously in order to maximize the comic effect derived form the context of this thread. Kudos.

Your second clause (also not a complete sentence, though acceptable in dialogue, so we can let it slide) belies the desperation of your position. It doesn't matter what country anyone lives in or was born in. Asian Wirter's posts here demonstrate a clear command of the ENglish language, including standard word usage and proper grammar and syntax. He could be from the Ukraine, Antarctica, or the moon--no one cares (except you, apparently). What matters is his proficiency with the English language.

In the same way, what matters with you is your lack of proficiency. Your MBA is meaningless, as is the question of whether or not you received a distinction, or were the only person to receive a distinction from your university, or were awarded a MacArthur genius grant for your superfluous amounts of distinction. The fact is, your English needs work. The customers on essaybay that leave you positive feedback are probably EFL students, or moronic native speakers (which exist by the thousands) who can't write properly themselves. This doesn't really matter either, though; your writing needs improvement regardless of your feedback or its source.

I can only think of a couple of reasons why you would focus your efforts on trying to discredit me.

No one's efforts are focused on discrediting you. You posted here, and people are responding. That's the way forums work. Your writing speaks for itself; we are simply pointing this out. Your defensiveness makes it more fun, certainly, but the only reason I have for "discrediting" you is the fact that you can't write and don't know it.

Stop being so immature and perhaps focus your efforts on improving your self-esteem

He's not being immature. He asked you a direct question that you avoided answering.

I'll put it more directly:
If a person who does not have the proper skills to do a job charges people money to do that job anyway, is that person corrupt?
monsta2005  2 | 33  
Nov 19, 2009 | #47
Every customer I have ever had is happy to the best of my knowledge. Clearly, someone of your intelligence should be aware that to obtain such a prestigious qualification and achieve the grading I did, requires the consistent use of a high standard of English.

ENglish language

Consequently, I found this an unorthodox way to spell the word 'English'. Pheelyks, I seriously feel sorry for you; even though there is no apparent reason to feel sorry. Regards.

If a person who does not have the proper skills to do a job charges people money to do that job anyway, is that person corrupt?

Yes I was thinking the same about you. Surely you should be busy writing essays? You seem to have a lot free time to post within this forum......

Most Indians, at least here in the UK, are obsessed with "whilst." I think they were taught that British English is all about peppering your sentences with that particular word.

Thats just me, not all indians. ;-)

I find this thread hilarious in some ways. Lol. You guys are funny. Lol.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Nov 19, 2009 | #48
Every customer I have ever had is happy to the best of my knowledge. Clearly, someone of your intelligence should be aware that to obtain such a prestigious qualification and achieve the grading I did, requires the consistent use of a high standard of English.

Would that be your "limited knowledge"?

This coming from a writer based in the Philippines?

AsianWriter happens to be excellent at what he does. Try learning something from him.

Monsta, get over yourself. You were offered constructive criticism and chose to interpret it as some kind of mortal blow to your pride. Spare us your opinions on the English language. You are simply not qualified.
monsta2005  2 | 33  
Nov 19, 2009 | #49
I would not be required to use the set-up "I am ranked so low on essaybay because..

Pheelyks, I genuinely did think you were this one particular writer on Essaybay and it wasn't some sort of tactic to get a response.

Would that be your "limited knowledge"?

Lol.

AsianWriter happens to be excellent at what he does. Try learning something from him.

Lol. I'll bear that in mind.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Nov 19, 2009 | #50
Pheelyks, I genuinely did think you were this one particular writer on Essaybay and it wasn't some sort of tactic to get a response.

I, for one, do not believe you. Reason? You used that same purile tactic with me.

Lol. I'll bear that in mind.

Your response is hardly surprising. After all, you are all about attacking other writers ...

Monsta, good luck! When you grow up, gain some experience, improve your English, mature, etc ... you could transform into a nice person.

Thats just me, not all indians. ;-)

I never said ALL. I said MOST. There is a difference, you know.
pheelyks  
Nov 19, 2009 | #51
to obtain such a prestigious qualification and achieve the grading I did, requires the consistent use of a high standard of English.

This. Sentence. Has. Several. Problems. And. Does. Not. Demonstrate. "The. Consistent. Use. Of. A. High. Standard. Of. English.

Consequently, I found this an unorthodox way to spell the word 'English'

Wow, you got me. I held down the shift key a second too long whilst typing. That's absolutely comparable to using the wrong words whilst trying to formulate thoughts, and using commas inappropriately whilst trying to make points.

By the way, "consequently" makes no sense the way you used it. I believe you were going for "Incidentally." But maybe it was a typo.

Surely you should be busy writing essays?

Yes, I should. This is more fun.

Pheelyks, I genuinely did think you were this one particular writer on Essaybay and it wasn't some sort of tactic to get a response.

Why would you think that? Is there a writer named "pheelyks" on essaybay?

I find this thread hilarious in some ways. Lol. You guys are funny. Lol.

Lol.

Lol. I'll bear that in mind.

So, when you run out of arguments you just start "lol"ing. Effective.
monsta2005  2 | 33  
Nov 19, 2009 | #52
Anyone with any moral sense whatsoever can see who is a nice person upon reading this thread. Let me tell you, as a person you are strictly an amateur.....

So, when you run out of arguments you just start "lol"ing. Effective.

No actually I genuinely find some parts of this thread really funny.

Your response is hardly surprising. After all, you are all about attacking other writers ...

Unfortunately I dont launch attacks on other writers. Anyone who reads this thread can clearly see who is attacking others. Your posts question the purpose of the entire forum. I find you funny WRT. Lol. Sorry pheelyks I had to mention the term 'Lol'. But i genuinely did laugh.

I never said ALL. I said MOST. There is a difference, you know.

Lol.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Nov 19, 2009 | #53
Unfortunately (comma? but not important as the use of "unfortunately" doe not make sense here) I dont launch attacks on other writers.

Delusional, are we? You sell yourself to clients by telling them that other writers will provide them with low-quality, plagiarised work. From where I come from, that is unethical.

As for your denying ever attacking others, let's see ...

Many writers who seem to focus on fellow writers, cannot prove their qualifications, and feel it neccessary to victimise writers who attempt to warn customers about the corruption within the industry.

(Cannot be bothered to correct the sentence or point out the numerous mistakes. Horrid English)

Stop talking nonsense.

Its funny how WRT seems to concentrate on other writers; perhaps if you focus efforts on your own writing your feedback may improve on essaybay. Furthermore, you may also be able to get some decent qualifications to your name ;-)

(Awful English) My essaybay account has not been active for 2 years and my handle here has NOTHING to do with my essaybay name. You do not know who I am on essaybay and are, therefore, a liar. Added to that, my rating was near-perfect.

Pheelyks why are you ranked so low on essaybay?

Pheelyks is not even on essaybay. Again, you are a liar.

Anyone who reads through this thread will clearly see that you are liberal with the truth.

Let me tell you, as a person you are strictly an amateur.....

Amateur? Does that even make sense? How do I, as a person, become a `professional' person, as opposed to an `amateur' person?

Many writers who seem to focus on fellow writers, cannot prove their qualifications, and feel it neccessary to victimise writers who attempt to warn customers about the corruption within the industry.

Is that not what you did? Did you not warn a potential customer that other writers lack the qualifications and integrity needed to produce a highly quality, non-plagiarised, research?

Do you not feel it is misleading customers that you do not state on essaybay that you are a Fillipino writer?

Yes, good idea. Attack Manunulat for having exposed you.

You come across as an intelligent person to a degree.

Stop talking nonsense.

Stop being so immature and perhaps focus your efforts on improving your self-esteem.

This coming from a writer based in the Philippines?

I could go on but I believe that the above suffices as a response to the following:

Unfortunately I dont launch attacks on other writers.

AsianWriter  - | 162  
Nov 20, 2009 | #54
This coming from a writer based in the Philippines?

So you took the time to check out my nationality, huh? I'm flattered. However, I never took the time to check out your nationality. I don't need to because it doesn't matter what your race or color is. It only matters how you use the English language. You, Sir, do not use it correctly.

By your statement alone, I can tell that you are not only a "crab" but a "racist" as well.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
May 24, 2021 | #55
customers accept the best bid.

You mean the clients accept the lowestbid. The lower the cpp the better chance of the writer being awarded the work. Again, quality does not come cheap. The lower the cost, the higher the likelihood of hiring an inefficient writer. . The student takes all the risks, regardless of the ploy.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
May 24, 2021 | #56
The same is true when it comes to independent writers without any formal bidding process involved. At least once or twice a month (more lately), a new prospective client asks me for a price quote and then I don't get back any response at all until several weeks later. By that time, the client who never responded to my price quote ended up using someone cheaper and received back something totally worthless. I always ask who (or what company) provided the work and what the cost was; and usually, it's somewhere in between 50% and 80% of my original price quote. Typically, they end up paying me more than my original quote to complete the same project in about 3 days instead of in 2 or 3 weeks, in addition to the cost of the unusable work they received from the cheaper provider.

Once in a while, they do respond to me before going with the cheaper provider, just to see whether I'll "match" the cheaper price. When that happens, I try to explain what I just described above; but I know that it probably sounds like marketing "spin." About half the time, they do take my advice to heart and just order the project from me; the other half the time, they find out for themselves that it wasn't just a marketing effort on my part and they either have me redo the entire project or they use me on their future projects.
noted  8 | 2042 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Oct 17, 2021 | #57
Students have freedom of choice. They can choose to work with the cheapest writer or, the most expensive one. The problem is that they lack guidance and proper information about how to choose a writer that can fulfill their needs. Granted that inflation since the pandemic began forced them to prioritize their pocketbooks, they should also know that other factors are more important to consider Factors like the number of years the writer has been on the job, his variety of writing specialties, and his ability to work on short- turn around papers, to name but a few other considerations, up the hiring price for the writer. These are the factors that should weigh far more heavily than their budget. Anybody can claim to be an academic witter, but the ones that actually know how to do the job come at a hefty price.
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