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Students: what kind "essays" do you think you will get?
Why are you so greedy? Payment of $3 per page should be perfectly adequate. I mean, 250 words is not even a full page for most companies and writers. Anyway, company owners have bills to pay, too. Writing example papers is not brain surgery. You should be content with $3. If you do a 10-page paper, you could have $30, which could buy a pretty nice lunch for two at Chipotle.
If I were a student looking for more than a 50/50 shot at a pass, I'd want a writer who gets paid a lot more than that. 24$ for a 2,000 word essay? I have a BA with first class honours and an MA - I could hack out 2,000 words in about an hour, but unless it was a subject I knew well it would be absolute rubbish. Who do you think is going to take that sort of work?
Payment of $3 per page should be perfectly adequate. I mean, 250 words is not even a full page for most companies and writers.
I doubt that anyone who actually knows how to write will go for that rate. At best, a semi-decent foreign writer, but I sincerely doubt it would be well researched, or/and written. I could be wrong however, but my first job (in Academic writing at least) landed much more than 3$ a page. Considering I never wrote a commercial paper before that (just my own college work), i'd say your clients will not be fortunate. But, maybe there are plenty of writers with extraordinary English skills and the capacity to write well structured papers, who are willing to work for 3$ PP.
Looks like we've got a greedy Gus on our hands. It's one of the seven deadly sins, you know.
Looks like we've got a greedy Gus on our hands
Laughed so hard! You're very funny, did anybody tell you that?
i hate all this rampant greed on here. 250 words isn't even a full page, so $3 is a fine rate and we regularly pay our writers less. in America we have something called the VALUE MENU. you don't like it, then get out and move to china or somewhere

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VALUE MENU
Don't you know McFatsons is bad for your health?
>"i hate all this rampant greed on here. 250 words isn't even a full page, so $3 is a fine rate and we regularly pay our writers less. in America we have something called the VALUE MENU. you don't like it, then get out and move to china or somewhere"
Hmmm...

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Thank you captain
YOU DON'T LIKE THE USA....THEN GET OUT
.THEN GET OUT

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Stupidity is strong in this one, he will become a Daft Verber
I don't see anything stupid about expecting writers to do their work for a reasonable price, according to the American tradition of an honest day's work for an honest dollar. What is ridiculous is the number of people that want these sky-high rates for writing papers.
Yet you, Verb and other local goons that frequent this dump aka "essayscam.org" charge 30+ USD per page. Your hypocrisy is unbelievable.
Never you mind what we goons do. I was talking about what other people should do!
I do believe we are being trolled, so I shall excuse myself from this party and go play backgammon :D
Goon, troll ...
This field is not bringing me nearly the respect and professional accolades that I expected.
usd3/page still have writer willing to take the offer? I posted on chat on writer needed offered usd8/page, when come to appointed stage writer suddenly increase price, some even said my offer sucks! Hello, is 4500 words of rewriting and 10,000 words to complete, the whole project is about 14k+ words... still sucks offer?
No decent and self-respecting writer will work for 8 USD, let alone 3 USD. "Poor man pays twice".
yeah, usd3/page is unbelievable... :p
This is unbelievable 3$ for 250 word so 2000 word would be 24$ ?
Yes, this is what Bubba pays, in fact his current rate is 1.70 USD per page. I guess his Kenyan villagers/writers can survive on that. The question is what kind of work they can deliver.
jkisira 1 | 4 Company Representative
Why do some companies pay writers little for Engineering and Technology orders?
Why do most companies pay so little for Engineering and technology orders? Its not unusual to find an engineering order requiring the use of a complicated software such as AutoCAD to be valued same as a simple Sociology order. I have a feeling it doesn't make sense since the amount of effort required for the two is different. What's your opinion?
A lot of administrators don't know how complicated lab reports, SPSS, law, engineering, code etc. can be. If you're working for a company that pays a flat page rate, you're likely screwed. If you're working in a system where writers can bid and justify their bids, you can raise your own rates accordingly.
wedas - | 1 ✏ Freelance Writer
Students Beware! Less than $10/100 words = a crappy paper!
Anyone charges you guys less than 10$/100 words is probably providing you a crappy paper!
Claim it's expensive, business is already outsourced, or that you can't afford it, blah blah blah
Pay less if so... However, don't cry over cheap outcome if cheapness is your hallmark!
Students Beware! Less than $10/100 words = a crappy paper!
This is so true, son. The problem is, most clients prefer taking the risk and end up crying later. I usually have a hard time getting direct clients willing to pay at least $25 per page (which is still very low).
Where do you source your clients from, Wedas?
$3 per 250 words means you are getting a 3rd rate writer from a 3rd world country. It means you are not paying for quality work and, quite possibly, could end up getting scammed. Any company that charges such a low rate per page cannot be trusted to have their writers submit your paper on time. The company, may also very well blackmail you because the amount you are paying seems like a lure to me. They are after the budget conscious students who just want to pay to get a paper done, regardless of the quality. They are the students who are often seen complaining here about being blackmailed, scammed, conned, whatever else kind of cheating scheme you can think of.
The previous comments about pricing are correct. When you pay $5 or $10 (or twice that) per page, you're going to receive something totaly unuasable and you're going to be paying a good writer much more to redo the exact same project with a shorter deadline, in addition to whatever you wasted on the cheap service, first. I get some version of that scenario coming my way approximately once a month. You really might as well skip that first step, save that money, and just find yourself a good reliable writer in the first place.
@FreelanceWriter How do you suggest writers price their essay in terms of word count these days? Since students would rather use the free Ai service to generate their essays, I find it interesting to learn how the remaining human essay writers of the independent kind have been pricing their work. Maybe you can shed some light on this matter. Did you have to adjust your prices to get new clients or retain old clients?
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Maybe you can shed some light on this matter. Did you have to adjust your prices to get new clients or retain old clients?
Nope. Some of my clients tried AI last year and found out, very quickly, that there's no comparison between AI-generated essays and the quality or usability of essays written by a good human writer, which you seem to have referenced, yourself, in this other thread:
the authentic and reliable custom essay services that students, who learn the hard way that Ai does not produce usable essays, end up hiring to fix the fiasco that Ai generated essays create.
https://essayscam.org/forum/es/reliable-safe-authentic-custom-services-poli-sci-3013/#msg88999One thing I've definitely noticed is that I no longer get as many requests to "fix" horrible essays written by various essay companies and incompetent independent writers. Instead, I've been getting more and more requests about "fixing" or "editing" AI-generated essays. I usually respond by explaining that I can certainly edit those AI essays to improve their logical flow and their writing, but that I can't do anything to "fix" any content and/or sources that are either completely fabricated -- Google "AI hallucination" -- or just plain wrong, because AI relied on totally unreliable and academically inappropriate sources, such as random websites and grade-school-level online material. Those projects end up requiring a complete rewrite from scratch, because for the price of "editing," I can't go through every sentence and every citation to determine their substantive accuracy, because that would take me twice as long as simply writing the entire project (much better) myself.
Since students would rather use the free Ai service to generate their essays, I find it interesting to learn how the remaining human essay writers of the independent kind have been pricing their work. Maybe you can shed some light on this matter. Did you have to adjust your prices to get new clients or retain old clients?
I haven't changed my prices because I'm not really in direct competition with AI when it comes to price the same way that worse and/or less experienced writers are. That's mainly because AI is most useful to those students who were (already) perfectly happy just to get pretty bad essays from cheaper writers and essay companies; and those weren't the students doing any kind of price-versus-quality analysis about their essay sources, in the first place. They've shifted to AI, because all they need is something that fulfills the word count, since they don't care about quality and/or because they have professors who don't even read their essays. Lowering the price of essays now isn't going to matter to them, because they're only interested in options that are entirely free.
My "niche" has always been the more competitive students who want really high-quality essays that actually make sense and that stand up to a professor's critical read, and that are likely to receive a high mark vs. a "pass" just for having submitted something with a title, a reference page, and the right number of words, even though it's practically unreadable. Competitive students aren't going to be using any AI program -- at least none that's currently available -- and they already understand that you get what you pay for. They're not shifting to AI to get lousy essays for free, now, for the exact same reason that they've always chosen to pay more for good work than to pay less for the same lousy essays once written by unqualified human writers, but now generated by AI programs
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