Has any writers tried to work with writers.ph?

writers.ph = essaywriters.net

Gano katagal ba pag nagdadown ang site ng writers.ph?

Hi..
Update...they are still paying.. :)

Hi, did you receive your payments for this pay period (Oct. 15)? Based on my "earnings report" page, they already sent out the payments this 15th. However, when I asked when I will actually receive the money in my account, "Susan", "Raymond", and "Amber" told me that my account is still undergoing the "usual" quality check. I was wondering, did you get your salaries? I am extremely worried now...

NEWS: writers.ph pays its writers on time... but unfortunately, not always in full.

You get your orders suddenly canceled after you have already submitted the paper to them!

"The client decided not to proceed with the order."... just that and poof! all your hard work will yield nothing!! not even a good explanation...

Hey, Cas! Wisen up! That's just the strategy of writers.ph/essaywriters so that they'd not pay you. THis is what you should have done: In that case, I will publish the paper online so that the customer won't use it as he did not pay for it." You'll see their response as "We're still investigating on this paper" so that you won't publish it. Truth is, it wasn't cancelled! They just claim that it is! Either way, publish it just the same and stop writing for them. Do yourself a favor and have peace of mind. Try other writing services.

Someone should start a Web site at which any ripped-off writer of EssayWriters.net / Writers.ph can upload and display for the public all of the papers for which he/she did not receive payment from those Ukrainian crooks. Writers should also directly contact each customer, explaining exactly where to find the published paper(s). The customers can then rightfully report the crooks for fraud.

@venus: Actually, I really published the order that they did not pay for :)

I still have more than $400 in my account. It's supposed to be paid this 15th. Did you receive your salaries for this pay period already? Ty.

What a sound idea! Writers Beware, will you go proceed with that website and let's heighten our advocacies against these fraudulent companies?

Yes, that's right. WB advocates that sites like essaywriters.net be closed down. But do you know what else our dear WB advocates? The eradication of incompetent ESL writers from the U.S. industry.

Hey WB, what's your opinion of venus' writing competence for the American consumer? :p

It's sad that trying to cause personal arguments between me and other members is all you have left. :p

I have no PERSONAL grudge against ANYONE for trying to make an HONEST living.

Ah, but I wasn't asking if you had a personal grudge on anyone. I was only inquiring if you believe that venus here has the competence required to write for American consumers. Well... does she? Just a "yes" or a "no" would more than suffice. ^_^

Has Venus openly stated that he/she knowingly defrauds American customers? No. Until that happens, I have no problem with him/her.

You fail.

Hahaha.. you really are a sorry bucket of contradictions. Venus did say that she wrote for essaywriters.net. She hasn't given up on her writing even if she did give up on that particular company already so it's a safe guess that she is writing for other offshore companies or at least still intends to write for such companies so long as they're honest in paying her.

But even if we disregard everything that I've written above, the question still remains and is independent of whether or not you have a problem with anyone. I'm simply making a very objective inquiry and asking you about it since you're the self-proclaimed authority on the subject of writer qualifications for the U.S. market.

Do you believe that venus has the competence required to write for American consumers? :p

Venus has already acknowledged that she discovered Essaywriters.net to be fraudulent AFTER having obtained a position.


If I base my opinion solely on her posts in this forum, my answer is "no." Does that make her a "fraud"? No, not unless she knowingly passes herself off to customers as an "American" writer.

At last, an answer. ^_^

So what's your point? I don't sugar-coat my answers.

Currently working with them...
Sometimes pay sometimes having problems...
There seems to be a relation between EW & writers.ph
Not sure just seems as the documents they are using to guide new writers belong to EW...

It's a pity that superficial people like EW_Writer and WritersBeware delve on cheap discussions like this. How early you are to judge about my non-acceptance to American consumers! Mind you, Filipino students are usually better than American and British students. Ghost writing is a never-heard concept here, as the concept is only prevalent among American, British, and Australian students who whimper about writing their own papers. You, asking about and judging my competence on writing for American consumers? Hah! Certainly, I do! Talk about globalization, Marxism, Imperialism and the crisis of overproduction, gender studies through conflict perspective, the functionalist theory of development vis-a-vis conservatism, the Church as the third force of a class society, feudalism and monarchy as cohorts in sustaining economic and political power in the slave system, democracy and laissez faire and how the two interact in alignment, socialism and classical revisionism, the new world order and the current trends of disposing the capitalist crises, imperialist crisis and the current recession in the United States, the socialization process and the sustenance of abuse in a male-dominated society, how women's social role is depicted in children's books, the non-political correctness of fairy tales, etc.

In addendum: Yours truly can articulate on these topics with eyes closed, so to speak; finishing up to the last words without having to resort to googling. I do, however, but only when it's time to write the references, for which I have to find materials that match my own textual articulation.

Yes, I am VERY capable to write for American consumers, and any consumers for that matter. Bring on the topics about Political Science, International Relations, Global Politics, and Sociology, and Venus will write on these with ease and articulation!

I just don't know about these two cheap personages- EW_Writer and EssayBeware, who reveal their whimpering capacity on academic writing with topics only limited to "do you think this and that is capable to write for American consumers?"

Shame on you both.

Do you have any evidence to back up this assertion? To be frank, this claim comes up fairly often on the boards and it's getting tiresome. Making such an argument does nothing to strengthen your position and instead, frankly, detracts from it. It shows your own ugly prejudice.

Talk about ugly prejudices! Don't we all have them? Look at how the threads in here abound with racist ariculations on the aspect that ESL writers write for research companies and how American writers view this fact with disdain and abhorrence!

Other people's prejudice is a poor justification for spreading one's personal biases. And it's particularly hypocritical when you say "shame on WB and EW" when you do the same thing.

Personally, I'd like to think that we don't all have ugly prejudices and that we at least have the good manners to not air them publicly.

And I think you're misreading the arguments made. Complaining that ESL writers are lying to their customers by claiming to be American or British is hardly racist - it's simply pointing out that a fraud is occuring. In my experience, the only people who claim this is racism are the ones perpetrating the fraud.

I'm an American writer who "views this fact with disdain and abhorrence." That's not me being racist and it's insulting for you to suggest such a thing. Lying is wrong. People shouldn't do it. Period.

It is this racist stance against them that prompted Ukrainian and Pakistani research websites to pose as American/British companies, since they know that they'd rip no earnings had they stood up to their real identities, given the still prevailing racist mentality among countries. I don' say what they do isn't wrong; it certainly is and is in fact a form of fraud. Whenever American writers/students here find out about the identities of these websites, how disdainful they become! It's as though suddenly discovering that a rat is doing all the delicious cooking all along! You cannot stomach that an ESL writer is doing all the writing for an American/British student because they're only ESL writers! What a shame! Put demise in your own racist mentality and I'll put demise on mine that Filipinos are better than any of you. Send a Filipino to Harvard or Stanford, and witness how he kicks the native citizens academically. Send here an American/British student and see how they snuggle in the corner during academic disputes dominated by Filipino intellectuals. I know, because I've had a handful of them as classmates in college and in graduate school! During group projects, they rely on the leader - a Filipino! They are arrogant beasts that look down on other races but are full of frailties themselves, and much worse than they claim ESL writers to be!

Now, they're asking in this thread: "Do you think Venus is capable to write for American consumers?" This narrowly cheap question, which is replied to by another narrowly cheap answer only exhibits how lowly their intellectual capacity is, which is only limited to howling intrigues.

And excuse me, Lavinia; we don't pretend to be American/British writers. The websites may claim such, but we never claim the same. I can speak for myself and other friends in the same research business, that we are proud to be Filipinos. The usual rule of websites is not to discuss personal circumstances to clients, only about the assignments. Sociologically speaking, this would be explained by the looming danger of their businesses had the identities of writers be known, given the anti-ESL stances of American and British consumers for which websites can't be totally blamed for - objecively speaking.

Venus, you're jumping to conclusions and making yourself appear foolish as a result. If you'd bother to read my posts, you'd see that I have said many complimentary things about ESL writers. I don't object to their decision to write for American writers. I object to the subset of them that lie in order to get business.

You, on the other hand, are spreading ugly, discriminatory views based on nothing but your very limited life experience. How can you not see the difference?

And I think that you're simply incorrect that racism is the only reason that Americans (or any other group) would want native writers to write for them. It's entirely reasonable for a consumer to want a writer who is familiar with the student's school system, citation styles and subjects. In addition, language choices vary considerably.

I don't pretend that I'm as qualified to write for a British or Indian or Australian student as I am to write for American students. And I have enough self respect to not lie to potential consumers to get business. I think it's rather hubristic of you to claim that native origin doesn't matter. Your own posts are riddled with grammatical errors that apparently appear fine to you and so you continue to fool yourself into thinking that your language abilities are good enough to write professionally. But the grammar errors wouldn't be so bad if you weren't also making extensive lexical errors - collocation errors, partial synonymy errors and other lexical mistakes. If you can't see that, there really isn't anything that I can say to convince you otherwise, but you're only fooling yourself.

BTW, I went to one of the Ivy schools. You don't impress me and neither do your insults.


EW isn't American but you assume he is... that kinda hurts your claim of competence, doesn't it?

And please, the "I'm not lying, it's just my employer's lie" excuse is so lame. You're enabling fraud. You know it's occuring and you're supporting it by writing for these companies. It's frankly really stupid for you or anyone else to work for these companies when you know they're lying to customers - there is NOTHING that stops them from lying to you as well. Which is why the biggest frauds ripping off writers are almost ALWAYS these same companies. They're equal opportunity frauds.

I AM NOT making excuses, Lavinia! FYI, I tell customers that I am a Filipino! I even had a little dispute with a website about this, as the Admin informed me about not disclosing my identity! Don't you accuse me of submitting to lying just because the website I write for claim that they hire only American and British writers.

In fact, YOU are a fraud yourself. Go figure that out.

You work for a company that you know is lying to consumers. If you keep working for them, that makes you a fraud too.

Go find a job that doesn't require you to cheat people.

You're also a bigot with horrible writing skills. I feel sorry for the customers you're defrauding.

But I look forward to laughing at you the next time you post complaining because one of these rip off companies decided to not pay you.

PS. I'm not a fraud. You don't have an argument. Stop posing.

Hey, EW, we're finally a team!

Venus, I tried to take the polite route with you, but you're clearly classless AND clueless.

There are so many errors in your posts that I don't even know where to begin my critique. The sad part is that you honestly believe that you're a qualified writer, and THAT is precisely how you rip-off American customers, albeit unknowingly.

Lol! Isn't the fact that you do ghost writing a fraud in itself, consitituting your own contributions for academic dishonesty?

Clam up.

Seriously, is that your best argument Venus?
I would crush it but it's been discussed to death already on this forum 1000 times by smarter people than you. Use the search function to figure out why you're wrong or at least ask EW to help coach you on making better arguments.

Lavinia, you pretty much covered all of my would-be responses to the racist.

EW, venus is giving a bad name to ESL writers with legitimate skills. Do you want to handle the reality check? I'm not really up to dealing with his/her error in every other word.

Whether it's been discussed or not doesn't make the topic obsolete, thus making me no need for a coach or resort to some search engines. You are exhibiting your own foolishness by saying that I'm a writer with horrible writing skills, drawing the arguments away from the real concern.

Venus, you conceded all my points - from your poor lexical grasp of English to your racist assumptions about the intellectual capabilities of Americans to your lack of evidence to support your views to your hypocrisy to your erroneous assumption that EW is American. I'm not going to retype the same arguments that you want to pretend don't exist in the hopes that next time, maybe you'll respond.

You are the hypocrite one, Lavinia, and don't you accuse me of poor lexical grasp of English when you, yourself can't make use of correct punctuation. My English may not sound Americanized, but there are variations of the usage of the English language, taking the post-modern position on the usage of the language. If to involve even the wrong assumption about EW Writer being an American is conceding all your points, then, I pity you for lack of better grounds.

well?

lol.
Yes, I am certain that clients want "post-modern" writing styles. That's what they intend to purchase!

Your whole point was how discriminatory Americans are by pointing to EW and WB - the fact that EW isn't American demonstrates
1) your comprehension isn't as good as you think it is
2) you failed to prove your point

The fact that you lecture while being more biased than either EW or WB were proves you're a hypocrite. Good night.

PS - Writer 911, you crack me up. Too frightened to promote your prejudiced views in English? The English word for that is cowardice, add that to you vocabulary. Yes, I'm a brilliant math and science scholar. If you can't qualify for Mensa, don't even think about comparing your IQ to mine. I don't see you getting into MIT anytime soon, genius.

lol! Then why don't you have a career?!
If ghost writing is a career to you, then go make my day, idiot!

Damn, you hurt my feelings writer911. I was so hoping that you'd start sexually harassing me for dates like you did WB.

But have you forgotten that you're a writer too? Or are you still trying to convince people that you're a customer in order to pimp your services, you crook.

I have a wonderful career, thank you. I got a new puppy last week that I bought for 800$. How many pages do you have to write at 2$ per page to make that oh math genius?

Both Lavinia and Writer911 are our friends. So please................

Writer 911 is a fraud who claimed to be a writer first and then later pretended to be a customer in order to promote himself as a writer - check the links I posted. He's just mad at me b/c I caught him a few weeks ago.

Moderator, I kindly ask you to delete ALL the disrespecful and anatagonistic posts that thrive in most threads here led by WritersBeware. Her posts are just as antagonistic as my conversation with VEnus in Tagalog, or even more rude and below the belt. Please pay attenion to them and be objective as to what to delete and what to retain.

Oh please, if we're going to request anything of the moderator:

Please ban Writer911. He's the only one in this thread who has actively attempted to use this forum to cheat customers by endorsing himself.

It is so ridiculous that a forum devoted to exposing frauds has to get tainted by crooks still lying to consumers.