Undertow2, Perhaps that means you surf in Rio, Brazil, worst undertow I have ever experienced, and a friend of mine died there as a result.
First, Humble, How do you do that quote stuff. When I do it, there is no highlighting.
Second, I and everyone I know Always WRITES OUR OWN WORK AND WE DO OUR OWN RESEARCH.
Third, if you have ever read anything about what is considered plagiarism then you know the definition can be as narrow as quoting "ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country" without referencing JFK, or as broad as ALL PARAPHRASING OF SOMEONE ELSE'S IDEA without referencing that work, to plagiarizing YOURSELF. I can give you references from the narrow to the broad, but you can find most of it on turnitin.com. It is an interesting read.
Clearly, when anyone and everyone writes their own work or research, they think it is original, done for the first time in their own way, but generally it is not. What is needed is to have a tool that can check your work, and tell you when you have missed a reference for an idea or have inadvertently quoted someone without realizing it, simply because THEY SAID IT FIRST. Most often ethical people don't even know they are repeating someone. For example "if I had more time, I would write a shorter letter" is most often attributed to Ben Franklin, but in actuality, if you research that phrase, you find that the correct reference is not Ben nor Samuel Johnson, as so many English teachers think, but actually in my research in defense of of a friend accused of plagiarizing it:
So you see fellows and ladies, when you really get into plagiarism and your database includes all the written work since the beginning of time, you find that RARELY is there any original work, and one must ethically REFERENCE properly. The plagiarism checkers are not designed to help people steal credit for essays they have not written or research they did not do, they are designed to HELP ETHICAL PEOPLE THAT DO THEIR OWN WORK, credit the work of people before them that their current ideas are built upon, whether they could have really seen that work or not.
In actuality, true definition of Plagiarism is copying someone's idea or work, but implied is that YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IT TO COPY IT. If you did know it existed, then you did not plagiarize. However proving a negative is impossible. Most honest people will be found to have inadvertently plagiarized because they may have copied someone's work through a surrogate, because everything we learn IS taught by people that have all regurgitated books and previous work written, or likely too, we as humans are bound to say or write things identically to someone who has said it before in our several thousand year written history.
Humble,
"1-Plagiarism detector I talked about is different from Jeffery'
Actually it does not appear to be different, please see =
https://essayscam.org/forum/gt/best-tool-plagiarism-checking-995/#msg192 17 Or plug in that site into any whois search engine and you find it goes back to the servers in Ukraine.
This is for the one you mentioned = plagiarism-detector.com
I do not know about Eve
"2-Even if the program is installed on your system, it can send the documents to a remote server." Is this about Eve?
Certainly I realize that is true, which is why I would like to find one that WORKS on one's own computer checking one's original work against the external databases and Internet, to be sure I have control over my work, and I have given proper credit to others whose work I may have never seen or know about.
Think of it this way, Copyright infringement in music is copying 12 notes. Yet with the millions of songs out there, how can any composer know if they have copied 12 notes somewhere in their music. Mathematically it is likely to occur, worse, they will not realize they have heard the song somewhere in their life, incorporated into their subconscious, and now in the depth of musical genius, they think that it has come forth as original music, when in actuallity it has not. Worse it might be 12 notes, THEY really did think up on their own, but someone else HUMAN did it already long before them and published it. Clearly it is not copying if they never heard it, but since the original author has no way to know that, it is assumed they have heard it and have copied it. Since we are all human, growing up in similar cultures, languages, thought, written work and anything we create is likely either be built on other people's work, or perhaps thought up by someone we are completely unaware of or had the opportunity to experience when we thought it up ourselves.
Example, I created an invention, only to find out when I went to investors, a 2 month search of the industry found someone else had created it and patented it 10 years earlier. I had never seen that work, but yet there it was.
So in the final analysis, what a plagiarism checker is supposed to do is help us be ethical BEFORE THE FACT by telling us when we HAVE NOT referenced other people's work properly, whether we have seen it or not, somewhere in our written human history. Yet most often it is used AFTER the fact to try to punish people that genuinely have done their own work, but somehow have not referenced work written somewhere on this planet some time before, that they likely have never seen. Clearly, I am not talking about the guilty that intentionally plagiarize but try to disguise their work, since they should be caught. But the innocent should not be penalized for not knowing every written word that is presented in ever book, library, or Internet website, that exists, but yet they have not seen, or worse, forgetting to reference a work they forgot they read, but had no intention of plagiarizing, because they do not have a running footnoter in their brain.
So is there a Plagiarism Checker that works on one's computer checking against the growing external databases and Internet, and does not upload the file to any external source? similar to the way patent searches work. Clearly when you are trying to patent an item, you do NOT want to upload your work anywhere to have it checked. You would like to keep your work secret, and check the external databases FIRST, before presenting your work for patent.
Regards,
Helpful Joe
