I'm sorry, FW, apparently you took my complaint as both an example of me "stalking your posts" and yet another excuse to toot your own horn. No one can do anything about the latter, but as for the former, did you notice that I posted here first?

My post was aimed at the people who run the site and allow such egregious examples as mentioned above to happen. Is there any way they can address it, or try to explain why they've made the place sort of a mockery of itself, or how they're going to fix it?

Obviously, they're reading this thread. Can one of them make an SN and maybe shed some light on some of this? Or would that be too difficult?

Critical Spoof fines its writers. Many of the advertisements go back to Academia-research.com, which scams writers, as well. "Green Essay" looks fishy, because their online reps claim that the company is in NY, but don't seem to know anything about NY, and type in broken English. Essay Writing Service UK promises students grades, which not only is a huge industry no-no with a side of legal hazard, but also guarantees that writers are going to be fined and overworked just because some professor is having a bad day, or has seen it fit to punish an obvious fraud with a bad grade. Also, we have hacks like FW buying ads and then chatting up confused students who thought they were going to an anti-scam site.

It takes like five seconds of digging to find any of this stuff out, but ES can't get it together-- some of these ads are still up! I understand that you have to keep a site going, but try doing some research, and once someone catches you out, don't just go back and look like fools again. Change. Because the way it is now, this anti-scam site continues to have ads for scams. It's embarrassing, it's unprofessional, and it degrades the content and purpose of the site.

It's always journalists. Where are the movie and TV producers?

I just wanted to note that as far as the forum actively monitoring anything, what a load of horse ****.

They don't monitor ads by this guy who ambulance-chase poaches customers on here while having ads, and they don't monitor ads from writer-fining, wild-west style scam sites (Critical Poof Escort Service, Academia-research.com, et al.), either. What a joke!

Also, it's pretty damn easy to post under 2 names, so again, I call horse ****, absolutely. Don't believe me? Ask "ghostwriter."


He's a great guy; you can totally trust him.

Yes, FW, and thanks for reminding me of that. But my taking that semester makes the student the fraud, doesn't it? If not, where's my unearned degree?!

Oh, one more thing-- it's your illusion of there being integrity in this industry in the first place that makes you seem so pompous.

Well, it's out of your area of expertise, then... it's too bad, because you're both such pompous frauds. Maybe someday you'll win the lottery and need a private pilot.

It's unfortunate that engineering isn't FW's area of expertise- otherwise, you two "professionals" seem made for each other.

I wonder if you'd sing the same tune, in the ER with a former customer over you.

Is graduating from law school quite the equivalent of passing the bar?

Being afraid of flying just made a lot more sense.

The killer, if you know, is turnitin.com. After this despicable, copyright-trampling monster didn't get sued out of existence like it should have, it made buying pre-written papers pointless.

It used to be that a student could save a couple bucks on a pre-written paper, if their topic was general enough. Custom research was generally reserved for obscure or specific topics. Imagine that now! Everyone wants custom papers.

Pre-written papers still exist, so if students really changed these things before handing them in, why aren't they still selling?

I recognize essayjedi's entry test. The above post is correct, I believe, in its assumption that this site is an affiliate. In this case, I believe it's the same owner of essaywriters.net[DND*], but I might be mistaken. The owner has a real "sense of humor," slipping smartass anti-Western propaganda statements into the entry test. Red flags all over the place, literally.

"First, we get Moose and Sqvirrel; then, conquer world. This time for sure!"

Yes, grammar... and don't forget spelling.

The bottom line is that these people are thieves, and on that, I think we can all agree, despite our relative abilities (or inabilities) to provide an inside perspective on their "modus operandi."

*all of us except for stu4.

WB never worked for them, either, Meo; he just snooped on their owners.

MeowCon, let me start by saying that your English has really improved. Have you taken my advice and gotten yourself some lessons? Great job!

Remember, though, in "most of/most...." constructions, you need to make the noun plural (if it's countable noun like "reader"). It really is a tough language; keep at it!

Now, if you'd like to offer something substantial to dispute my analogy, which I made offhand, but nonetheless stand by, by all means, go ahead.

*a countable noun

Glass houses, right?

Also, just so there's no misinformation here, MeowCon, despite his forward strides with the idiom, hasn't yet landed a gig with any of these "starter-level" Ukrainian travesties. He has no real information to add about their pay-scales.

It's a moot point, though, since it seems that "David" here has less of a chance at passing their grammar tests than he does.

Post-Soviet Ukraine has a lot of problems, just like the early-capitalist USA did. One difference is that, unlike the Pinkertons, the gangsters and robber barons who are running Ukraine's stripey, bargain-basement essay mills can't actually bust any of their employees' heads (although, after talking to some of their writer support people, who knows? They certainly seem brain-damaged). If you're a writer, though, all they can really do is treat you like garbage until you leave for greener pastures (i.e., anywhere).

This organization hired me a few months ago, ostensibly.

In fact, it just gave me limited access (I had an account, but couldn't view orders). It was frustrating not being able to view orders, because they constantly sent me notifications about available orders.

About a week ago, after a few months' wait, I was told that I had not been accepted. Buywords.biz continues to clog up my inbox with order requests.

I'm fine about not making the cut; I have a lot on my plate with other organizations.

I've been around the block in this industry, though, and Buywords gives off a heavy "overseas somewhere" vibe. It's not that the English in their notifications is bad, but it's awkwardly-phrased, and the idiom is a bit off.

Some companies that give this vibe-- RWC, for example-- are great. It is a red flag, though, which, in this case, can be combined with other flags signaling disorganization and the tendency to spam. It may be sour grapes, but I have the feeling I avoided a real pain in the neck.

WB mostly just wants your precious time.

AR, while not the highest-paying company in the industry, does pay before they lower the boom. this makes it entirely possible for the abovementioned hypothetical Harvard grad to continue to work for them as a supplementary source of income for years, selfishly ignorant of the company's 300% fines until they are actually levied. considering the relatively low turnover achieved by not lowering the boom for a few years on particularly well-regarded researchers (based on customer feedback), and the assumed habit of robbing the talentless and/or non-English-speaking researchers relatively quickly, your point of view regarding this company is revealed as, at best, a string of irrational assumptions. in fact, it's a ruthless beast of a system that AR has, and if you are any indication, SNR is being drummed out of existence by it largely through a sense of hubris.

anyway, we see on whose side essayscam.org stands.

the Harvard grad is probably hustling for 4 other companies and slumming... not doing their best for sub-par rates. they may also be a bit angry, if the boom is starting to be lowered, and pull a bit of sabotage. in any case, the world isn't black and white, toots.

oh, and never put words in my mouth again, when you don't understand the first thing I'm saying.

you misunderstand and presume... and yet I am neither surprised nor amused. you're the same old drag, WB.

academia-research.com hires everyone, no matter where they're from, and treats them all equally shattily. a Harvard grad and an idiot have an equal chance of writing your paper... assuming that AR administration has not lowered the boom on them, which they will do, for whatever reason it is, to both.

this is an advertising forum for snarky, cynical writers who prey on customers looking for information on scams.

it is also a place for company owners to play sandbox dictator.

as for the first point, I am concerned that this forum accepts advertising money from known a known scam company based in Kiev, Ukraine and with offices in NYC, USA, academia-research.com. the above link to "essaytrust" in the advertising bar goes to them as an end-site. academia-research.com is a company that defrauds and robs from its writers. quit immediately at the first sign of academia-research.com fining you, and save yourself the trouble.

as a customer, I think you stand a slim chance of getting a good paper from writers who are generally innocent to being low-balled and don't know industry CPP averages, or continue to work in fealty to those who rob them. it's not exactly a motivator to writing good papers to be subject to a laughing bunch of thieving hyenas.

that's pretty good for off the cuff. of course, it assumes that people can actually understand Welsh.

here's one I tell at parties:

so there's this blonde, and she's very upset; her man is cheating, and she's found out.

he comes in to this scene: she's been crying, she's a mess, and she's holding his automatic pistol. to his horror, she puts it to her temple.

"hey, just calm down," he says, "we can talk about this..."

"don't even," she snaps, "you're next."

why don't the mods check it out, if they don't believe me, instead of adding a question mark to my post title?

essaytrust.com = academia-research.com. there is no question about it. same fake names, same attitude, same end-site.

service with a smile! >CLICK<

I don't know; I think it was the beginning of a 2 Live Crew song. I wish I knew limericks.

I checked out SNR's page, and it appears that the message "SNR has accepted your application" goes through no matter how many fields you leave blank on its application (including captcha and email fields).

what's going on with this company's HR?

your point was that I should expect my writing skills to be reviewed directly by company ownership, regardless of their English proficiency, WB. as usual, it's indefensible, outside of your imagination.

what a brick wall. I think I need to take a cue from the professor here, start realizing that I'm not going to change your way of thinking, and crack more jokes.

so... two dudes, right... two dudes walk into a bar... and there's this nun...

helpessays never got back to me... maybe they're arranging my plane tickets for the interview?

look before you leap, Major Buttwad.

this from someone who criticizes people for using "says" instead of "types."

[Moved from]: essaytrust.com is actually academia-research.com?

I just thought people would like to know.

it's sort of funny that essayscam is not above getting advertising $ from scammers.

*the mods have added the question mark to the title of this thread; I did not add it. I just asked the "essaytrust" online help about applying there for shats and giggles, and was directed by "Steve" to academia-research's main site.

**** you for doing that, mods.

I hope this inspires WB to get creative.

n how how, how how.

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I guess I'm going to be waiting a while for my personal vetting with the owner of that last place I applied, then. gee, I hope I didn't buy that new suit in vain. I'd hate to think there's any irresponsible, self-aggrandizing misinformation being spread here.

if anyone posts a valid, substantiated experience having a physical interview at SNR here, I'll post valid, substantiated photos of me eating my shoes.

keep dreaming, toots. I'll let you know what's up after I'm done with my personal interview with helpessays.com[DND*]'s owner (haha).

god, you're dense. your original claim was about ESL ownership, and I made it clear that those two cases weren't ESL owners.

well, stalky, none of their ownership personally hired or screened me either, but it's in the past, and I didn't get all the screenshots you require.

I hope helpessays' owner speaks some English. I think I'm going to pretend that the industry standard is to have writers hired and screened directly by company ownership, and then I'm going to act confused when they don't put me through directly.