No. Emerald is more than enough

It is a gamble. Most, if not all companies have a mix of good and bad writers but what differentiates a good one from a bad one is the proportion between the two.

And remember to get back here when you are done so we others can learn from you

Trust me on this, the likes of dustball and Viper are useless and in that case I would say that the client is even much better off using Google, which although slow and irritating will give the right results. Dustball, Viper and Copyscape only work if the document is heavily plagiarized. I once compared them to writecheck and noted that while writecheck was giving a plagiarism rate of 30%, copyscape (which I had paid for because writecheck had just become expensive) was showing 0.

Sounds like you have nothing to be afraid of, but if I were you I would just buy a few credits from writecheck.com and run the thing through it. Writecheck uses the turnitin database so you can be sure that there is no chance you are resubmitting another person's previous work.

If this is the case, you need not hide in the DND. In fact, you should appreciate the potential role this forum can play because it will allow both the client and customer to ventilate. I would expect that once the client came here to lodge the complaint, you would then come armed with these facts and from there, the rest of us will simply make our inferences. Why run to the DND if you know you did the right thing yet this is a neutral forum?

May be having a disclaimer would be helpful so that any netizen coming here is forewarned on essayscam's limited reach. The challenge will be on how to make it conspicuous enough to be noticed.

From what I have noticed, it is always easier for shills to create fake profiles and pose as satisfied clients with aim of promoting certain websites but I haven't noticed competitors disparaging each other on a grand scale. In other words, most complaints come from genuine customers but the same cannot be said of positive accolades and this then means that DND-list companies are unable to handle complaints against them. There is no doubt that judging essays is quite subjective and hence making it easy for customers to just run out here and complain over nonstarter issues. However, the question for the companies on the DND is why there are many others in the market who are ready to be publicly interrogated. In fact, it is at this point that I side with my previous Ukrainian employers even though I did not agree with their operations which is why I left them anyway. Contrary to some impressions created about them, most of their associated companies/wesbites (I don't exactly know them but I know they are not on the DND) actually handle customer complaints conclusively. They may give refunds or provide the revisions needed. On the other hand some of the 'legit' companies hide behind legal matters such "this is only a model paper", "it is illegal to submit it as your own" to avoid giving refunds or providing ammendments. So yes, companies on DND most likely have something to hide.

The first one was Uvo and then essaywriters.net[DND*]. Uvo's problem was the bidding system, which sometimes meant that I had to sit out for long hours waiting for an order to be allocated to me. essaywriters.net[DND*] was good because as orders continued circulating on the board, their cpps went up and there was no bidding. In fact, I made it a habit to wait till cpps got to at least $14 (sometimes as high as $25 for a simple paper) per page. However, this would not last long as I was soon to realize that orders started being snapped up at $8 per page yet this was the middle of the hot season (around Nov). I then knew that my honeymoon was over and it was time to fend for myself. I fled and never bothered to disable my account because I had no plans whatsoever of going back even if I did not get a better deal. Although I appreciate competition, I believe that there is an irreducible minimum when it comes to how much I am willing to take for a page and if I cannot get that, I would rather seek an alternative.

My experience from a freelance writer's perspective has some similarities with yours.

I joined the industry 3 years ago and joined a company that was paying a CPP range of between $8 and $16.

However, a few months later the site became flooded with writers and so not only were orders becoming scarce but the CPP was lowered to around $5. As if that was not enough they introduced an option which allowed writers to lower their bid prices so that desperate ones would offer to do the papers at much lower prices.

Needless to say, working with the company became unsustainable but I was lucky enough to get another company whose rates were much higher at between $10 and $25. Again, it was not long before desperation set in and the rates dropped to below $8 per page. At this point, I gave up on companies and decided I was much better off working on my own.

As long as assignment research companies get endless supply of writers willing to work at whatever rates, this industry will continue its downward trend.

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Where did you hear that from? Palo Alto?


That means I will give you a topic and the first thing you do is to send me a sample after which you write the real paper. Sounds interesting.

This one actually needs a clarification. Are you saying all Kenyan writers are bad or the company Kenyawriting is 100% bad? In each of them you have a case to prove on how you arrived at the generalization.

Quite high although it varies for each company/writer. In my case I can say that at least 30% of my clients are ESLs.

It is never a good idea for sure but we are talking about an industry in which it is not possible to advertise on Google. If I had a site, I think I would spam because it is generally hard to reach clients. It is actually not hard but it will take you an insane amount of money plus a lot of time.

I have noted that a good number of professors ask that foreign students get their work proofread by native speakers because in most cases the research is not testing their language skills. However, in a few instances I have found some being questioned about the elegant language used in the paper. The thing that gives away most students, IMO, is the fact that writers are a times unaware of the course content. If a student sends me a one liner requirement, I will simply proceed to write the paper the best way I know how yet for the Prof. he wants to see engagement with the course. They already know that the facts to deal with the question are on Google and Emerald but that is not all they want-you have to show that you have been in class and you are familiar with the course.

Its quite hard to classify them on the basis of nationality especially in my case because my sample size is severely limited for any generalization to be valid. I did not have any Filipino writer and that is because I did not find any so I cannot authoritatively comment on their performance. All I can say is that the highest proportion of the ones I worked with were from Kenya and India and I can say they if you are to ask me what I felt about the whole working relationship I would say it was not that great otherwise I would still be with them now. If you are recruiting writers just think of them as individuals-think in terms of nationality and I can assure you that you will fail.


By monitoring progress I believe you mean occasionally checking on the writer to be sure that the project is progressing well and that delivery deadline will be met and not checking the writer's "professional" progress. For the short period that I worked with writing companies, I only wrote for Ukrainian companies namely EW and Uvo and in my experience, there is no progress monitoring that takes place. It is even impossible considering that most of those companies are simply websites with a few members of staff who are expected to process too many orders and for that reason, such companies are unable to keep an eye on what the writer does. They simply allocated you an order and put in place a deterrent in the form of a fine to deter any (potential) "slackers".

Do you think this guy was really asking a genuine question? I don't think anybody who can find essayscam.org online can fail to understand how blogging can improve search engine rankings or net visibility.

you are right about getting schooled on managerial skills and abilities and in fact I would say that if I were to start all over again, I would do a much better job. In fact, it is after the venture that I understood why the likes of EW and company apply very tough sanctions on their writers. I found it shocking that people would live for a very long time without power or phones suddenly ran out of charge a few minutes before the deadline. The worst bit was being kept at the edge of my seat while trying to trace a writer who had disappeared while at the same time calming down a very rude client. In most cases, whenever a paper delayed, the middlemen directly referred the client to me and so I was forced to deal with insults and other profanities that such clients would spit. For the small commission I made, I concluded that I was better off writing the papers myself because I had full control over my circumstances.

I did get two Americans but was unlucky with the Britons because they are way too expensive and given that I was getting the orders from middlemen, I could not afford them. The rest of the writers (about 5) were ESLs.

I do not know why the admin deleted my post but I had said that managing writers can be quite tough. They refuse to pick calls, write crap or just don't measure up to the task. I met quite a few through both essayscam and essaychat and as usual they would lie about qualifications and so on. In the end you spend a lot of energy chasing them or going through their work and comparing it with the requirements.

Managing writers is hell. I tried it once and I concluded that I was better off writing on my own and keeping 100% instead of having to chase them. Actually, if you are not careful with writers you will lose a lot if not all of your current clients.

First ask him whether he is from the UK because he does not sound anything like it. In other words, what is he doing pitching for a UK based company.

This is not new; it is simply a way of telling prospective clients that they have a certain caliber of writers they have labelled top writers. Think about it. The client will probably think that this is based on past work output from such writers yet that is simply not the case. It is a good strategy for catching the customer's eye and I really pity clients who fall for such traps because soon as you place an order demanding a 'top writer', your order is simply put on the order board like any other.

I get work from US and British natives many a time yet they know fully well that I am not a native speaker.

Cheat who? This is a freelance job for which pay is directly related to how much one can write. While I agree that we are not as efficient as we should be I still don't see how I am cheating anybody because I only get paid for what I write.

It then comes down to how much you make per page. The trick in the business is to keep your CPPs decent so that with an average of 10 pages a day you can live comfortably. I am not saying that you shouldn't write more; you can but let that be optional. For instance, if work 3 consecutive days writing an average of 10 pages a day, I am able to cover all my basic needs (house rent, food and utilities). It will not afford me a holiday, frequent night outs and so on but those are just 3 days of my month, which is much better than my colleagues in formal employment. So for me I rarely write more than 10 pages unless there is motivation to do so (read very high CPPs) because I prefer to have sometime off the computer and that is not possible given that I have a slightly lower rate of writing.

Getting an A should be a student's responsibility and the companies/writers know it but promising grades makes a very good business strategy especially if the market is majorly made up of clients like you. Why not take whatever you have been given and polish it up. That you got a B grade and you still have the nerve to complain makes you sound unreasonable. However, on the other hand, I suspect this could be a well orchestrated marketing campaign. Anybody who has been in the market long enough will know that a grade B for a dissertation qualifies as good work (unless it was from a student in one of those bulls-i* colleges). In fact, I put it to you that this is a marketing gimmick and that you are a shill for INDIAN-DISSERTATION-WRITERS.COM. The burden of proof is now on you to prove otherwise.

Editor is right, professional writers belong to the New York times but nevertheless academic writing remains a trade for which one needs a certain level of competency and stamina. On the matter of pages, my capacity varies. On a normal day when I get to watch television, keep my facebook account logged in and read the latest news or watch YouTube videos, I write an average of 10 pages. I rarely go beyond 10 pages even if I have more work that is pending for as long as they do not fall due on that same day. However, under pressure I can write up to 20 pages within 8 hours and surprisingly, I mostly end up producing better quality work than those days when I only write 10 pages.

70% of my work comes from private clients. In fact, I no longer have active accounts with EW, Uvo or any other such sites. In any case I could not have been talking about clients I get from companies because the screening is done at the company level and so I am never called upon to state my qualifications. As for the native speaker argument I say overrated because none of the private clients I have written for has ever bothered to inquire about it-not even once.

I did not say that but I did equivocate. If you noted my mention of standard was in quotes and it is because I do not necessarily approve but just acknowledge that the practice is quite prevalent even amongst leading writing companies. I worked for a number of Ukrainian companies such as Uvo and EW and I noted that even though the support representatives spoke on phone with heavy accents that betrayed their linguistic backgrounds, most had English names.


In my line of business, I am yet to come across a customer demanding that one of the qualifications is that of being a native speaker. The most frequent qualification I am asked is whether or not I hold appropriate qualifications (or experience) in the relevant discipline. The native speaker argument (as a basic qualification for academic writing) is important but overrated.

Scam? Using fake English names? may be, but this has been a 'standard practice' for a while with Ukrainian, Indian, Pakistani and even Kenyan companies having their support staff use fake English names. IMO, a scam is simply failing to deliver what you promise. You can even be a native speaker and still fail to deliver according to the requirements and that is worse than the non-native using a fake English name but doing quality work.

If I were you I would roll back my sleeves and start all over again. You should not waste your energy complaining about a promised grade because in the end you don't really have a legal basis for claiming a refund. What I am unsure of however is whether the company would be willing to stick to a 'gentleman's agreement' although its decision to disallow discussions on its operations is quite telling. Good luck!

May be you should try them because it is hard to get genuine positive comments from the forumites. More often than not, a positive comment will come from an under cover marketing agent while a negative one may be from a competitor. That's the writing industry for you.

It's all business so you have no grounds to file a complaint

What are their average CPPs? I noticed that most companies are now stuck at $10 which was not the case three years ago. In fact, I suspect a good number of 'legitimate companies which claim to only hire native speakers are now outsourcing their work to cheap inexperienced writers using other websites which they do not openly admit association with. So for example, company X will write on its website that both its writers and clients use the same website and therefore its compensation and hiring policies are open to scrutiny. They will even have a page on which one can apply as a writer and the conditions will be indicative of a very strict recruitment policy. I actually tried applying for one but was told that I had to have a first class (Hons.) degree from a recognized UK university. For a while, I believed them until a complaint was posted on the forum by one of its clients (in fact several came up later) that one of the products from the company was written by someone with a very poor command of the English language and little knowledge of the subject. Could such a person be a holder first class degree from a recognized university? definitely not. And so I am sure that what they write on the site is meant to convince clients that their papers will be done by competent writer while in fact majority of the work is taken to another site that is unknown to the poor clients. IMO I think this is the worst time to join the writing industry and I would even discourage anyone who wants to do so. When I joined a few years ago, my first employer was Uvocorp and I got a minimum of $8 per page. My next employer was essaywriters.net[DND*] which had even higher compensation rates thanks to its barbaric treatment of writers which had seen a good number of them fleeing. I remember there was a time in EW I would not touch an order whose CPP was less than $14 per page (that is right) but both sites now hardly pay anything above $5 a page which is a pittance. This means anyone joining now will have to contend with those low CPPs.

Wrong! The smartness talk (your lack of it) was because you suggested that I am a forum regulator and that I was involved in changing the title of your thread. Now, don't get too excited because I don't see anything you have unearthed. The point is that fastcuntessays' data shows that it is registered in India and so the burden of proof is on you (the PR manager) to prove otherwise. Anyway What you are saying is that a US based company bought a domain name and paid for hosting in an Indian based hosting company. Quite interesting! Wonder what the motivation may have been and unless you know the owner personally, we can only conclude that the company is based in India.


Says the student who ordered a custom essay from fastcuntessays and was just passing by the forum to inform us that she got a good paper. I am happy you are slowly crawling out of your shell albeit too slowly.

I don't think you are that smart which even explains why your pathetic attempt at marketing came out like two puppets controlled by the same hand. I registered on the forum just like you and picked a handle I thought was suitable although at the time I did not expect that it would confuse anyone to the effect that I was one of the forum officials. So just to be clear, there is no group of people known as forumregulators.


When and how did that become clear yet domain search below has indicated its location and registrants. In fact, if the title was changed as you allege it was for a good cause and so Marquez (Sophiegold or joannapietra), you have left fastcustomessays in a worse position than they were before you started this 'marketing campaign'. Please refund whatever monies you were paid, apologize and find another career.

Wow! is this really the best way? I am so glad you are here and I think you are a plagiarism Guru who could help a lot of us deal with the vice.

Actually come to think about it. These are students in an academic institution discussing about an essay writing website as if it is part of their academic discourse. It would be understandable if the students were discussing recent developments in the global business environment or the workings of turnitin.

I think this one operates out of India or Pakistan so it is unlikely to be part of EW or Academia-research. It is probably a standalone company, which explains these desperate marketing tactics.

Which one is? fastcustomessays? A classic case of pot calling kettle black.
By the way, apologies for not including you in the equation but here is the complete one now:

SmithMarquez=Sophiegold=joannapietra=fastcustomessays

Please do let me know if there is another forum member you would like me to put on the list.