You both are missing the point. Its not clear why Ed75 is here. His story doesn't add up. My intentions have been stated at various times in various forms. You're free to contact me personally and find out anything you'd like.

Yes, I've posted a lot over a short time. It has been an experiment. On the whole, it has been successful with a few minor missteps. And as evidenced by my bank account, I must have made some constructive comments. It has been cool as this is the first time that I really have laughed all the way to the bank.

I realize that it must be frustrating for you that I can come here once a month and see all there is to see in a matter of minutes since my last log in. Ed75, you have claimed that you no longer use the e-mail associated with this account. The speed and frequency of your posts indicate that you spend all of your free time lurking on essayscam. The only reason for doing such is self-promotion, which is odd given that you cannot be contacted via PM. You're just an anonymous entity with absolutely no backing to anything you say, so get over yourself and try to have a bit of fun.

Wow, you worked for those guys? How much did they pay you?

Nope, just like you, I'm just here to slap around a few morons. Not enough fish over in the essaychat barrel.

How many hours per week would you estimate for the 100k year? And was this solely academic ghostwriting? How many folks are looking at their work in terms of hours? Seriously. I ask because my goal is to only work one-half of the year, or less, so I've been intently focusing on how long it takes me to do certain kinds of knowledge work.

My take: At 60 hours a week, an excellent academic writer can likely break 100k easily, but you can't be dicking around with customers and doing much else. You certainly can't be working for a writing service. At a standard workweek you'd need to make more than $48/hour. I've only been doing the academic ghostwriting for a year and I've managed to get $45 per hour on occasion and I've been pushing my rates up gradually as I get a feel for the game. While I am still doing some work for only $25 per hour, my average is now approximately $30. Even if I can break an average of $35/hour, I don't see relying on this entirely as my only freelance gig. Way more can be made ($40-60/hour) sub-contracting for publishing companies and editing for-publishing journal articles for career academics, although the work can be mind numbing to the point that I'd rather do a term paper for less money.

You're not supposed to interact with me. Now listen to your den mother and run along.

Does this mean that you don't exist? Please say yes.

Read: I must now return to trolling my own forum.

Here is another perfect example where W2B, Ed75, and Major make an unwarranted attack on a student posting a complaint. This is one of the purported functions of this forum, yet the parent company was offended and went on the attack. Public forum indeed! A little civil discourse and professionalism would go a long way here, yet they quashed, as they always do, a thread that could have turned into a helpful discussion.

And what's with the posting of a link to messages from a cooking thread? That is clearly a personal attack meant to intimidate. It is also an extremely petty display from a forum member who claims to be an exceptional Internet detective. Good job! You've saved the essay writing world once again.

If you offer a turn around in 24 hours, then it doesn't matter if the request is made on a Sunday night. You left the lights on, now deal with it!

The levels of quasi-bureaucracy at CustomPapers is something else and highlights why this and other companies should be avoided for specialized work. The requested work was clearly outside of their ability level as evidenced by the backpedaling.

It is also striking that the structure and tone from Kevin is remarkably similar to a frequent poster in this thread.

Places everybody, places!

My ineptitude is perfectly adequate for this forum, thank your very much.

I'm glad that you chimed in as resident super sleuth!

Just by saying the opposite doesn't make it true. And its awfully arrogant. But I guess it may be true if you're writing low-level papers for students who shouldn't be in college. So I guess it is easy to be arrogant about that.

Even so, I'll wager that there isn't single writer in the universe that can catch all of there own mistakes on something above 1000 words.

Unfortunately, Queef Shooter has a valid point.

Why are you bothering to go after Vaddon when it is obvious on a face-palm scale that this marketplace idea and the presentation of it here is an incredibly bad idea? He's promoting an instrument for students and tutors on essayscam?!?! And he's looking for ideas from us? Come on. It's a marketplace for sure, but not like it's portrayed. It's just another meat market for fishing pennies out of the pockets desperate non-native English writers. Get in line over at Freelancer and Elance. If you can't read any of that in the first post, then I've got another face palm for you.

What's really going on here: Vaddon is looking to elbow his way to a table full of bad poker players. Ed75 sees this as an opportunity for showcasing his non-existent sleuthing skills. Shameless self promotion indeed!

Well, that's not true, now is it? So much for your cold, hard facts. Everything ever written needs to be edited. Whether the piece is edited is entirely another question.

Challenge accepted! Let's have a write-off! We need an independent member to pick the topic and specs.

Or maybe you don't have the stomach for something like this?

No one has ever accused you of being eloquent. One can hardly read any of the good nuggets here because of your sh|t storm of bickering and backbiting. There's a lot of crap to wade through, all of which you are largely responsible.

CypherFromASoul,

I'm curious what sort of fraud you were talking about in the company that you worked. This is essayscam afterall, so it would be good to here about this fraud?

Since you're asking for opinions:

I still don't see that working. Maybe some "writers" would do this for you, but I wouldn't write a word without knowing that I'll be paid first, either upfront or via established rapport. And again, I don't see any quality American writers being able to make this work unless they live in their parent's basement. Even then, there are "companies" out there that will give you in excess of 77% of the fee, which is only a bit workable given the 3% money transfer fee and taxes. But say that you can get some quality writer to work for less than $10/page, then you'll have the problem of rentention as soon as they figure out what the rest of us are making. And they will find out if they are quality writers. A good native-english writer with a decent university degree is worth a lot more than what you are looking to pay. These are rare birds and they tend not stay in the cage for long. In other words, you're fishing in a labor market that is understocked and with little to no bait.

No offense intended, but I think that this is crazy. It will never work. I can steal anything as soon as it comes across my screen, regardless how you lock the piece.

As an American with health insurance expenses and retirement concerns, I couldn't live on a 35% cut. As such, it make me wonder about the qualifications and location of your writers.

writers2beware = American hack
bookmyessay.com - Indian scam

But I thought you were here to point out these details to uninitiated?

But I thought you were here to point out these details to the uninitiated?

It's okay Mr. Doofus. I didn't expect you to catch that one.

Always consult with writers2beware. She knows everything about everything.

Translation: "I want to know some more information so I can make hollow statements about something for which I know nothing."

So that's all the vigilante has to say? I thought you were here to protect all of the inncocent students. I guess that case must be a little beyond your pay grade.

How did you pay and when are they supposed to deliver? These would be crucial pieces of information needed for helpful advice.

Yeah, that's really awful writing. Turn that into me for a grade and you'll get an F before I make it past the first paragraph, which is just a run on sentence with two grammatical mistakes in the first two words. You might want to turn on the spelling and grammar check in MS Word. It's so bad that I don't even want to see if there is anything logically coherent about the topic.

W2B and Ed75: This is your competition that you spend so much time attacking. Pathetic. You're all a bunch of delusional crooks.

This freelancer will not. I've already given two services a try with a 100% failure rate. Your post is written rather poorly and parts of what you say don't make any sense. Perhaps you could show how well you can write with a thoughtful and logically coherent post?

The days of independent freelancers are truly over?

Uh-huh.

Really? You're gonna go after a little grammar slip into my colloquial manner of speaking on a scam forum? This is what it has come to after all of the tender moments we have shared? I've given you so many passes on your crap writing ability. I guess this is what happens when you've been discredited. You choose to go after the little bits instead of addressing the big issues that I have raised. Tit for tat.

So you have got me to agree that the site "is unethical, misleading, and dishonest." Good job coming from someone who is unethical, misleading, and dishonest, ranting on a forum that is unethical, misleading, and dishonest.

Twisting my words.

1. Unethical? Yes. Nefarious - not necessarily.
2. Misleading? Yes. Legal? Don't know the laws of their country.
3. Never made that assertion. Like how you slipped in the "only". Good one.
4. It is not technical evidence and you presented the information. Who the heck provides evidence and then demands that someone else cite the source? Wait a minute? Scott is that you? My old PhD adviser? You son of a... You had me going!

5. You post information for the benefit of nobody except yourself. You are being dishonest to say otherwise. This alone make you a huge liar.
6. There's actually three questions there. Honest? No. Reputable? Don't know and neither do you. Trustworthy? Don't know and neither do you.

There. I am certain that you will find all my answers to be unsatisfactory.

Leading questions. There's a difference. Look it up.

Besides, you've already been discredited. Run along now. The big kids want to play.


Not a veiled threat. Just some advice.

You are asking for answers to leading questions. Educate yourself and learn how to pose a question if you want a real and honest answer.

A trap? Long ago? For me? You're too kind. Yes, you did set a trap, but it is not one that you are willing to describe. And yes, I stepped in this trap. But you ensnared the wrong dude. You might want to start looking over your shoulder.

And official answers? Under an anonymous username? Not possible for you, me or anybody under the cloak of anonymity. Good luck with your reasoning.

This one is funny. Ha! It's also a good example of how you ask leading questions. There's a third option here: You post for the sake of getting new customers. Al the rest of it is rubbish.

You're asking a leading question again. Try to rephrase it without setting it up for the answer that you want to hear.

I do not condone any illegal activities.

If you are going to claim nefarious practices, then you have the burden of proof. And yes, you have to prove it every case beyond the lazy posting of addresses and names.

And still, you are misleading the customers into believing that you are some vigilante when your sole purpose is to redirect clients to your service. How is it that you can correct a dishonest deed with another dishonest deed. And you have the gaul to talk about ethics?

Again, it was obvious from the web copy and video that they are not who they say they are. There was no need to dig out some old addresses.

Here you are making up lies that suit your agenda. Never said a thing about fake addresses. I'm saying that your address postings are irrelevant. Totally different thing, but I'll give you a pass this time.

Okay. I'll answer the question if you can rephrase it without the explicit presumption that I don't have a problem with their practice. You're very good at making and accusation and posing a question at the same time. Try just sticking with a question.

Now I'm beginning to think that you're likely a plagiarist.

But seriously. You have nothing. You use the words 'verify', 'proof', and 'evidence', but that's it. You haven't verified anything and the evidence you have in this case and many others is a bit weak. The only people you are impressing are the big dummies who use your writing service.

You sound exactly like those nut jobs on Fox News. I bet that you even believe that your investigations are fair and balanced. You're probably having a go at yourself right now with a vibrating crucifix and some transcripts from The O'Reilly Factor.

What do you have? Just some addresses that prove nothing. Yeah, they're lying about their locations, but the web copy already told us this. And you are lying about being a vigilante. You're whole presence on this forum is a lie. A lier calling out other liers. Great. Sure, you call out a few ESL scammers, but who cares? A few folks who should be in tech school or sweeping the floors. You can have 'em.

Ed75: You're not an intelligent person just because nobody understands what you are saying. Maybe we can have a chat when you learn to express yourself within your means.

You guys are just grasping at straws. You think that you know what is going on and that you have me figured out. Think again. It seems that W2B has revealed a little too much of her own ignorance. Major as well. Ed75 still hasn't proved to be anything more than a hapless dolt.

This forum is not as anonymous and safe as the owners portray. The site admin has already demonstrated their willingness to track down my actual identity and then attempt to intimidate me with a casual showing of such.

It is incredibly clear that some forum members are directly privy to other member's information while making the false claim that they are not. It is also clear that most of the other forum members are not going to understand any of this and will not go back to do a careful read in any of the threads.

So in that sense, W2B, Major, and the like have won their war. Their bid for adults (clients, students, etc.) who can't fend for themselves is secured. They are essentially preying on clients who do not have the faculties to decipher very simple web copy. They are competing for people on the wrong side of the intelligence bell curve. They are not happy that folks in other countries are taking a slice of their pie. Therefore they are attacking thecasesolutions.com.

It's funny that they continue to argue with me, unless of course they see me as an actual threat to their little game.

The bottom line, in this thread, is that I have actually shown without a doubt that W2B was wrong about exposing a scam and/or fraud. We can keep playing the semantics game... And I could order an essay from thecasesolutions.com folks, but then Major would just tell me that I am being unfair and W2B would back him (I'd also lose a little bit of cash). Then we'd come full circle back to Ed75 and his non-sequiturs.

Ah, the cycle of essayscam.org life, where everything and nothing is a scam, fraud, and deceptive practice. I may be the truly insane person here after all - I'm arguing with anonymous personalities who know fully well who I am.

I'll be back...

One more thing: You guys tend to drive off topic really fast. The OP wanted to know about reliability. In no way did W2B address anything related to what the OP was asking. She just answered the question that she wanted to hear.

Keep back pedaling and side stepping. You have no proof and can't cite your sources. You don't get a special pass for withholding information. You demand this of everybody else, but cannot step up when you are called out. Now you appear more dishonest than ever before. Keep digging that hole.

You go after the competition. You don't give a damn about frauds or scams. Your game is dishonest competition.

You have to prove that this is the case. I just had a conversation with two folks from the site via chat and their English and comprehension was relatively good compared to a lot of the ESLers you go after. They claim to have American writers, which is believable. I know of American 'writers' who are stupid enough to work for the low pay.

Even so, you have to prove a "misrepresentation of skills, experience, location, native language, and education." You're just making an unsupported claim. I don't know whether they are a scam or not. Would I hire them to do a paper? No. Would I refer a student to their site? No. But I'm not going to make a baseless claim about scams; well, maybe in jest. Right now, it is your word against theirs. Good luck with that.


Proof? You seem to be short on this lately.

I'll take you in a game of cards any day. Sociopaths think they can work us empaths, but I know something they don't.

So there you have it folks. This is example of where writers2beware has made a false, maybe libelous, accusation against an ESL essay site. She called them scammers. She has no demonstrable proof and cannot cite her sources beyond what we can see for ourselves. In other words, she is making interpretations and calling them facts. But hey, don't take my word for it, judge for yourself.

W2B, I'd love to play you in a game of high stakes poker.

Never guaranteed a thing and you know it. I simply asked what was the goal. I removed this option so you would stay on topic.

That's Dr. to you. Show some respect.

I'm waiting for some proof and sources? You're making some serious accusations and have nothing to back them.

Discredited is a good word for you.

So now it is three usernames beyond graphophobius? Wow, you really have gone off the deep end this time.

You're not sharing anything because you have nothing.