I was just stating the facts as they are, based on my own experience. I have absolutely no interest defending any of these companies because as you can clearly see, I am no business owner and as a writer it would serve my interests better to dishearten potential competition. EW has the upper hand over megamarie77 here, and I think she does not have much of choice but to play it safe until her she gets her money. she can go wild thereafter.

I wonder how much they owe you, but I know they will eventually pay you. The challenge for you now is to avoid troublesome situations-things such as plagiarism, questionable quality and repeated lateness. These crimes carry a risk of your pay going in to 'hold' and if that becomes the case, then you will have to wait for no less than three months to get paid and the amount you get will be half the amount owed. Specifically, this is the time for you to avoid writing on subjects you are not familiar with and also avoid any customers who show any signs of being whinny.

May be you should give EW a try, although of late I see their rates hitting south real hard but the consolation might come in the form of premium priced rush orders. And yes, the company's fining system can be a pain in the a** especially if you get a difficult client but on the overall, I would not call them the worst of employers-but you always have to be vigilant.

They can even charge $100 a page, but they would never give the writer anything more than $8/page, so what we end up with is a huge disconnect between the writer's perceived obligations and the client's expectations. What if the client, having found service not commensurate with the fee paid decides to launch a complaint? The writer is fined and the client will probably be asked to shut up or go to hell.

Do you mean $10000?

That is what I call humor- but only as long as on one comes here crying about being scammed by the site.

Sometimes customers may have too many demands. for example, a customer may order a 3-4 page paper, then demand a draft and the right to speak to the writer yet the instructions for the order are quite clear (analyze the effects of Salomon vs Salomon on the formation of companies). Its understandable to want to talk to the writer, but demanding a draft for such a short paper and on such a direct topic may be unreasonable. Okay, but it may be understandable for a high school kid.

Finding a good service in this industry is a bit tricky because there is a good number of people out to make a quick buck from unsuspecting clients like you. One of the things you can do is to read this forum over and over again; it may point you toward the right direction.

I don't use Paypal and the reason (I was told) is that it can only be used by those within the US and its 'environs,' so I remain ignorant in as far as that is concerned. But on taxes, how do these companies account for those without SSNs?

This doesn't sound very usual, although I don't find it outlandish. So, is the SSN meant enable the company effect your paypal transactions or is it for the greater good of your employment with them? If paypal is the issue and you are not comfortable giving them your SSN, I suggest you try moneybrookers. It is more flexible and I doubt anyone will require your SSN or identification documents, as the case would be for paypal and wire transfer.

you are lucky because for others such realizations come too late in the day. Imagine placing an order and an hour to your deadline, you receive a Wikipedia article-complete with pictures and links contained in the article and you are told that that is your money's worth. You will be left wondering whether to go after your money or first work on something you can hand in to your prof. Luckily, you have a bit of time in your hands to fix the problems.

You are a one of the many victims of the poor quality control systems put in place by most of these companies. Owing to unreliable in-house quality checks, they mostly rely on feedback from clients, who may sometimes take up to a month to respond because they too have to wait for the professor's comment on the paper. Matters are even worse if the writer in question is new to the company. Therefore, to protect themselves against disputes they hold your money for the longest time possible and use all sorts of tricks, from payment methods being 'verified' to an account being 'investigated'. My advice is, be patient especially if you believe taht you are a good writer because they will want to hold on to you if that is the case.

WRT, you had gone missing for a while, what happened? Anyway, the sample extract you see there is purely speculative- I was trying to figure out why certain companies will never allow their cpps to go above certain rates. Although I have a feeling such policies could exist.

My worst rate $5, best rate $36. Okay, the $36 was an offer from a private client for a rush order but I had to decline it because I had another job from one of my not-so-well paying companies. Ironically, its like I had to give up $36/page for $11/page but it still counts as my highest, though. And, I am also curious if there are companies that have policies forbidding their writers from getting compensations beyond a certain rate per page. I know of one that never pays its writers beyond $6, regardless of what the customer offers or the time of the year;the order would rather become stale. So, while other companies are focused on keeping certain percentages, this company is defining the maximum rate a writer can get per page.

sample extract of the company's policies
"Under no circumstances shall any writer receive a compensation above $6 per page"
"The above rule is the only one without any form of exception whatsoever. Any member of staff found to have violated the above rule shall be fired without notice."

How did that happen? Did something just flash on your screen and there it was? or the heavens opened up and angel Gabriel showed up with essay-house written all over his face?

Allow me to use a simple example to justify my proposition. Lets assume that the words rush, fast, best, total, custom and plagiarismfree could be used as prefixes for papers, essays, writing and research to describe writing companies. Examples of site names would be totalessays, totalpapers, totalwriting, totalresearch and so on. But how do you find out the number of times these two groups can be combined? There are 7 prefixes and 4 words, so the total number of possible combinations will given by 7C4, which which gives 35. The answer you get is absolute and not relative as the case should be for probability functions such as poisson or binomial. nCr is useful for establishing sample sizes, which can then be used to establish specific probabilities but that does not limit its use to probability. So to the extent that you have dismissed this proposition as unfounded, I disagree, but on inaccuracy, you are probably right.

You can use the 'combination' function (its symbol is something like nCr) in your calculator to estimate the total number of sites offering academic assistance. You will need to 'combine' all the adjectives in the english language with the word 'essays' (so that the resultant word is something like bestessays, rushessays and so on) and after that replace 'essays' with 'papers'. I think it will return a figure of 1 million or more. And 80% of them are in the hands of a few.

Don't you think you will be allowing criminals to benefit from their own wrongdoing? I totally agree; there needs to be a sort of clean up, but taht must not give the companies an exit strategy for abusing the free market economy. it is a catch 22, I suppose.

Yes, quality issues should not be brought up if copyright ownership has passed to the company. That is what I meant.

I beg to disagree. You spend sleepless nights putting together these projects (never mind about the quality) then out of nowhere all sorts of excuses are used to deny you payment, and you are expected to be civil about it? No way. The client is obviously not at fault and the writer is not innocent either, but the greatest responsibility should be borne by these scam companies. Suggesting taht writers take half the blame cleanses and emboldens the scammers because they are reading these posts too.

They usually are until they deliver a product, and you start asking for revisions or rewrites. At this point you will be a liability and they'll probably stop being prompt. Not scaring you-just trying to prepare you in case it comes to that. Most writing services do that for some reason.

Turnitin stores your paper in its database so that if your professor tries to check it for plagiarism it will turnout 100% plagiarized. You could try other programs such as dustball or copyscape although they may not be as thorough as turnitin. But ensure you always check essays you receive for plagiarism.

I work for a company whose fining structure is the stuff of legends, but I have never known people getting fined for less than 15% plagiarism. However I hope you did not spin an article and tried to pass it off as the one requested by the customer because that is unforgivable and in any case, pulling such stunts prevents the paper from flowing logically. Otherwise if I were you (and I am not), I would take cue from that and run as far as I can. Yes, quit while you are ahead before they hold your entire salary on the pretext of 'investigating.'

These clients should also take time to type out their instructions. Some orders actually fail to attract writers because of the order description lacking hints-let alone complete instructions- on how the paper should be done.

WRT is right on this. it's either justice or revenge and since you chose the latter,I suggest you keep in touch with their tutor so that you can get updates on the punishments your 'clients' receive. You'll probably feel better if they get expelled.

Does it even matter whether they ping or not? Managing one account is already a haste, why in the world do you need two accounts?

Ewriter, I sent you a pm, did you receive it?its just a small inquiry, which I know you can handle.

Could your professor be one of EB's registered writers? It is very possible, in fact, if I were you I would first ask for him to be investigated. O.J got away with it, why can't you?

What gave me away? I need to know so I can work on those weaknesses.


Okay, a quick answer from you. Do you think these people should be paid?(Hint: they only falsified their CVs but got the job done). Yes or no?

You suffer from a closed mind open mouth syndrome; there is no other explanation for your propensity to use obscenities. I thought of a sponge as the least one could have in the head, but it appears I was wrong. You clearly have nothing between your ears. All you need is love and understanding.


I admit to charges of insanity. Anyway, I am not out to defend any incompetent cheats that for a long time reaped where they shouldn't have sowed. What I am against is the mob justice kind of treatment these people are getting. They should be punished, I agree. But on the other hand, we must remember that even the worst of the villains deserve justice. In my opinion, the essaybay guys are petty offenders, but too bad for them. The defense wishes to rest.


You really sound scared!

You then go ahead to give what fits your definition of blatant cruelty. How comes nobody is mentioning essaybay's role in all these? Its system did not allow for a fair competition and I am sure if I were a member of essaybay, I would probably have tried to write more papers than my fellow members.



Your system allowed it, and so, as you punish them try and find a way of punishing yourself as well. The likes of Ben and writer4234324234 should be forgiven and paid all their dues because they found a system that did not allow them to survive without 'modification'. I am sure they loved essaybay with all their heart and soul, and therefore decided to do everything possible to stay with, which means that you are now punishing loyalty. I saw that one of them was asking for a $15 balance, which I am sure you can top it up to $20 and also cover the transaction fee. If you do not change your stand some family somewhere will sleep hungry. I know it because I experienced that sometimes back when I was chased from NASA for allegedly divulging sensitive information.

I do, but i'll need you to be physically present during the inspection so that I can smack your face if try anything fishy.

Come slowly. mentally incompetent is too gross. Look, his skull must have definite competencies, which I would have preferred you to first find out before dismissing it wholly. I think apologies would be in order. He is a provider, just like you, yet you allege mental incompetence, I mean mental incompetence! Take a minute and think about it, how does a mentally incompetent person look like?


You need to pay them first and then help them secure alternative employment. It is called corporate social responsibility! Taht way you can practice capitalism without losing your conscience.