Did it involve a pole and uncomfortable shoes?

When people ask me what kinds of things I write, I usually just tell them exactly what I do and maybe list a few examples of my most recent project topics and page lengths. Their most common response is sheer amazement that anybody can (or would want to) make a living doing something on a daily basis that they remember as the worst part of their own educational experiences that they'd never want to relive for even one day. Those of us who do this fulltime probably write more papers every couple of weeks than most people wrote in their entire 4 years of college.

It's definitely possible. I've had some $8,500 months, but it would be a very difficult pace to sustain month after month all year long, at least for me. One of my strongest competitors has a high enough consistent daily output that I suspect he might be able to do it this year for the first time, now that he's no longer charging much less than he's worth and less than the going rate charged by the rest of us experienced fulltime American writers.

In law school, I worked as a fitness trainer, gym manager, bar bouncer, and as an athletic director. Then, I worked as a writer/editor for the U.S. government. If I'd have realized that I could make about the same living without having to leave my house, I'd have started doing this fulltime much sooner.

Your best bet is to start with a very short project with a long due date to test out any company or writer the first time and minimize your risk. Don't wait until you need an important 20-pg essay in 2 days to start trying to find someone good. You may have to try a couple of times or you might get lucky and find someone honest whose work you like on the very first try. Thereafter, stick with that person or company and ask for referrals from them to someone else you can trust if they can't take one of your subsequent assignments.

Any chance the Moderator could please confirm that I'm not associated with either of these posters?

I understand even that won't satisfy Writer_456 because I might also be the Moderator, too; but I mean just for the benefit of sane forum members. Do you think I'm also PV, now?


Thanks, PV. Appreciate it.

Thank you. I'd have referred you to someone too, but I don't know anybody else who handles that level of CS assignments. I've written 25 and 50-pg papers on IT security topics, too; just nothing that technical. Unfortunately, both of you will soon be accused of being paid shills for me or relatives of mine by the same few vindictive lowlifes who regularly attack every legitimate writer here and do it even more boldy (and always annonymously, of course) on essaychat.

So you're suggesting that none of the other writers for whom I've vouched here previously (or I) is really a freelance writer at all but we're all just company reps all posing here as freelance writers. That's some conspiracy theory there. If that were the case, why would I have chosen to use the exact same S/N here that I've always used as a company writer and repeatedly mentioned that here instead of just choosing a different S/N? Granted, I can't prove to you that I'm really a company writer, but if your theory is that I'm here just "posing" as a writer who's really trolling for customers for an essay company, why would I admit to writing for the company in the first place if I were trying to hide any association with them?

Furthermore, there's ample evidence here that I was also a writer for an entirely different company, in the form of a very long and very contentious thread about a payment dispute with the owner of that company. For your theory to be true, either all those companies would have to really be the same company or I'm simultaneously an owner or rep of those two entirely different companies. Anybody who cares to do the research can check to see if there's any possible way that those two business entities (the one I got in trouble here for defending and the one with which I had a bitter payment dispute) are related in any way. (Hint: It's pretty easy to confirm that they aren't.)


Then, why would I ever have complimented your other S/N "ESLinUSA" for your honesty in your first post under that S/N? And I have (still) never "vilified" you or any other writer or company. I have, strictly in my own defense, ridiculed a few lying idiots who do nothing here but attack and lie about other good writers and me, but I have never otherwise "vilified" any other writer. I've also ridiculed a few posters who claim to be "writers" because anybody who speaks English can tell that they're delusional to refer to themselves as writers, at least in the English language.


Right. I don't leave people twisting in the wind just because I can't take their particular assignments; I try to refer them to one of about 4 other (competing) writers I trust 100% or to one of the companies that I've always admitted writing for so they don't get ripped off by any scam companies...and I try to help them phrase their orders in ways that will help them get what they need from the company. There's nothing nefarious about that, either: I'm just hoping that they'll come back to me and always give me the first look at any future project to reciprocate for my helping them and I specifically ask them to do that.

How are you with that whole NASA really landing on the Moon thing?

This makes no sense at all. No essay company would ever do anything to promote any of its writers individually because every project and every customer that we get as freelancers is a lost customer to any company we write for. As far as "harassment" goes, all anybody has to do is check through posts on this forum and essaychat to see that the writers you've accused of being associated with these website (like ProfessorVerb and me) have never once initiated any kind of attack against any other writer or company. We've always admitted what companies we also write for as company writers and we just respond to threads and posts on the exact topic of those discussions. Meanwhile, we have to defend ourselves continually against ridiculous accusations from competitors whose only method of "competition" is trying to trash any writer who seems to be somewhat successful at this profession. You're one of those accusers despite the fact that my only comment about your original S/N here ("ESLinUSA") was totally supportive of any ESL who does not try to pretend not to be ESL. Those of us who compete strictly on the basis of the quality of our work never trash other writers and routinely refer customers to other trustworthy writers when we're overbooked or for work outside of our areas.

We're not allowed to recommend any companies here. You can use the search function to find previous posts on many different companies and to figure out whicn forum members seem credible and which ones don't and whose advice seems to make the most sense, in general. It would also probably be safe to conclude that forum members who can't even manage to express themselves in complete, grammatically correct English sentences in their informal forum posts aren't likely to be good candidates for any advice about more extensive writing projects, at least not in English.

It's more about timing than about the actual writing time. I never heard of the company at issu, but just to give you (some of) our perspective: Anytime I ask for an extra 6 or 12 hours (or whatever), it's not because the paper itself requires more time to write; in fact, some of us take 12 or even 8-hour assignments quite frequently. An extra day or half day may help us sleep instead of staying up longer...or to hit the gym...hang out with the wife or girlfriend...etc.

It usually means we're just hoping to write this at a more convenient time for us, if that's possible without screwing anything up on your end. When I ask, I also make it clear that I can meet the original deadline if there's no cushion on it or if I don't hear back in time to assume it's going to be a "yes." Typically, I'll get a request around midnight for a 2 - 6 page paper due the next morning.

If I already wrote all day and was just about to workout late...or if I was planning on sleeping from 4 AM to Noon, I'll ask if delivery 12 hours or 8 hours later is OK. Other times, I might get a request for a few pages in even less time...maybe 2 - 4 hours and it catches me while I'm already writing something for delivery the next morning...so I take a break from the first one...bang out the rush paper...then get back to what I was already writing. For a few weeks a couple of different times every year, that can go on all day long most days.

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Unlike you, I haven't violated a single forum rule here in many, many months. The forum moderators here recently decided to allow anybody with a personal website to post it in a signature. What kind of lunatic are you to continually rant and rave about other people following the "rules" here while presuming to overrule the people who actually own and run this forum to decide what should and shouldn't be allowed, and all while repeatedly violating other forum rules (as usual, in the same post where you're ranting and raving about "rules"), such as the one about typing out (and/or using dopey euphemisms for) the names of companies and websites that the forum rules expressly prohibit anybody from mentioning?

I'm not in the habit of adding meaningless posts just as an excuse to let my new signature show up in a thread, but when you have to continually attack me (entirely unprovoked, as usual), you leave me no option but to respond. Thank you, I guess.

I'd suggest using the search function here before posting the project details as recommended above. You can search posting history by screen name (select "messages" not "topic titles") to get a feel for who here sounds legitimate and experienced and capable of writing in grammatically correct English, and who here sounds like a vindictive lunatic who can barely write an informal forum post without massacring the English language. It shouldn't be too difficult to identify a few good potential candidates that way and to exclude others based entirely on the way they present their points of view, their arguments, and themselves on this forum. Good luck.

We're still not allowed to post our emails in posts, but the rules were recently changed to allow us to post our personal websites as a signature that now appears under our first post in any thread. That should help you and some of us.

QS, could I ask you a question? If you have no financial interest in this industry, why did you choose this one, of all of the many types of industries in existence, to observe so closely? Just asking. Personally, I couldn't imagine spending a minute on this forum if I weren't a writer, writing company rep, or a potential customer. Thank you.

That's such a great idea that we should start applying it to every industry:

If you order a steak "very well-done" and then remember that you prefer medium-rare after you're served, the restaurant should have to absorb the cost of the first steak and just cook you a brand new meal for free.

If you hire a painter to paint your house green and then realize that your wife wanted it painted yellow, the painter should have to do it all over again for free on his time and he should pay for all the paint.

If you hire a contractor to replace your bathtub with a standing shower and then you decide you like baths better than showers after all, he should come back and rebuild your whole bathroom for free on his time and he should pay for all the materials.

How about just letting the customer absorb the cost of fixing his mistakes and writers (and other service providers) absorb the cost of their mistakes? I've rewritten entire projects for clients who made a mistake in choosing a topic that wasn't approved (etc) and I've reduced my price substantially because I sympathized with them, but none of them even had the nerve to ask, let alone to expect, me to fix their mistake as though it was my mistake.

The rules of this forum prohibit any of us from recommending any company. However, now that the mods allow us to post a link to our own sites in our signatures here (thank you, BTW), your best bet is probably to just try to familiarize yourself with the previous forum contributions of anybody you think sounds potentially legitimate, and you can use the search function for that. Pretty much assume that everybody here is either a customer or someone with some professional interest in this industry.

Consider things like whether posters are straightforward in describing themselves as company reps, writers, students, or so-called "observers"; or instead of purposely leaving that section blank. Consider what other legitimate-sounding members have to say about one another and about others; maybe consider whether or not the posts of people claiming to be writers and editors sound like they were really written by someone who thinks logically and writes professionally (and in grammatically correct, coherent and complete actual English sentences).

In my opinion, anybody who does nothing more than that would probably be able to identify several potential writers or writing companies you can trust with your first assignment...and at least twice that number of very obvious non-candidates.

If you really want to be smart about it, start off with a small paper with plenty of time before the deadline instead of waiting until you have a big important project due in a few days to try out your first writer or company. Good luck.

Everything is false about that. The truth is that I just earn an honest living as a writer. I have a very good reputation for providing high-quality work and for being very careful to decline any projects that I can't do well. I have maintained a mutually respectful and cooperative relationship with all of my legitimate and honest competitors. To most sane people, the fact that I happen to have a law degree and that I previously worked as a senior writer for a very large U.S. federal agency is a good thing, not a bad thing. Unlike you, I've never "bragged" about how good my writing is or about anything else. Ironically, you're the only one here who's ever announced how successful an "author" you are, how big your house is, and how you don't really need to work in this industry. Finally, anybody reading any thread in which we both post can freely determine how good or bad a writer you and I are, how much sense we make in our respective posts, and which one of us is the consummate hypocrite. Your realizing that probably goes a long way toward explaining your hatred of me and that of you barely-English-speaking friend who has failed in approximately 1,200 attempts to ever type out a single complete, coherent, grammatically correct sentence on this forum.

No problem. As I've said before, legitimate honest writers can compete against one another fairly and honorably and they can simultaneously try to help out their existing and prospective cutomers find other trustworthy writers for any work they can't take or don't want. It's only the real low-lifes in this industry that have to resort to attacking other writers and to falsely discrediting them to "compete."

You've made reference to this several times. Just out of curiosity, does this mean that you found many customers who were interested in paying top-dollar for pre-written essays or does it mean that you resold all of your previously-written essays to customers who paid top-dollar for work they thought was brand-new custom writing? I'm only asking (not accusing) because I've been doing this for a long time and have not seen any demand at all for pre-written essays for years.

Without purposely trying to insult you, let me suggest that whoever wrote this is simply not in any position to determine what constitutes "good writing" about anything, at least not in English.


Why did you call yourself an "observer" when you're claiming to be a satisfied customer? Furthermore, it is not believable that you are just a customer who "has" 10 writers; and if you employ 10 writers, you're hardly just an industry "observer." I've been doing this for a living for a long time and I only know 3 or 4 other good writers I'd trust and recommend; and none of my customers knows more writers than I do.

In any case, I have some very recent first-hand experience subcontracting some work to a Kenyan writer. While he provided the economic analysis that I needed, his writing was not even remotely acceptable and required complete re-writing on my end. He routinely used 10 or 20 words to say what should have been expressed in a very few words and the work was full of sentences that either said absolutely nothing or that simply repeated prior sentences in slightly different words. Subsequently, the same writer took an essay from a customer of mine on essaychat whose project I'd already declined precisely because I recognized that it would have required much more time than I could afford to give it at the time to do it right. She eventually sent it to me asking what to do because the paper she received was totally unacceptable for exactly the same reasons I described above. To his credit, that writer agreed to give her a partial refund after I contacted him on her behalf and explained that the project was way above his level to take on in the first place and that the customer was stuck with an unusable paper and still needed to pay someone else to do it all over again.

I don't doubt that some Kenyan writers may be good at what they do but I would have to disagree with your suggestion that they are necessarily good writers in general, let alone the "best"; and anybody reading your post already knows for a fact and without any help from me that you just aren't someone qualified to determine what is good writing or to represent your conclusions about that to others as though they're the accurate "observations" of a disinterested party.

Thanks, but in my opinion, this description below never really changes even when you're pretty experienced at this; you just get better at recognizing which projects to avoid even if you could do them if you had to:


This last month was very heavy and I turned down or referred away a lot of work that I'd have taken on during slower times. Also, it always depends on the level and length of the assignment, because there may be countless subjects you'd be able to do 5 or 10 undergraduate pages on that you could never do 100+ post-grad pages on. Same goes for differences in academic standards in different countries: I routinely decline UK work for some topics on which my clients have been very happy with my work in the US. And even when you're experienced at this, there are always projects you might wish you hadn't taken once you get into them and other that you second guess yourself about having referred away.

Ironically, one of the assignments I recently declined because I didn't think I could do it well enough was from a regular client who didn't take my advice about which alternate writers to try. It got done by someone else so badly (and much worse than if I'd done it) that the client sent it to me asking for help and all I could do was tell her she should have gone to one of the people I'd recommended. I contacted the writer she used and just explained why I thought it would be fair to issue a partial refund, which I believe he did. The client then paid one of the writers I'd originally recommended for the same work all over again and I'm sure he did it right. The lesson for inexperienced writers is that if you have a long-term approach to doing this and don't want to accumulate rightfully disappointed first-time/last-time clients, err on the safe side so you don't take on work that much better and more experienced writers would have known to decline. The lesson for clients is if you already found one writer who's trustworthy, take his or her advice about other writers instead of jumping back into the pool of unknowns.

Exactly.

Since you quoted it, let me fix something I didn't catch in the 5 minutes we can still edit posts here:


I meant that the argument also seems to presume that if American students are given the choice between an essay that "only" meets American educational standards but reads and sounds like it was written by an American and an essay that meets "higher" educational standards but reads and sounds like it was obviously not written by an American, they would prefer the latter. I'd reject that presumption completely.

Nope. Just check the writing samples posted on that site and it will make perfect sense.

I've always taken a much different approach based on an entirely different distinction:
c) The writer who is honest with clients about his/her nationality & native language fluency; and
d) The writer who is dishonest about either or both.
I have no problem with "c" regardless of nationality or ESL status. But the client is entitled to make a fully informed choice without being deceived.


Ironically. (given the chosen title of this thread), that argument is based on a fundamental logical flaw: namely, that "if some A are not C, then all B must be C." (A=Native Speakers; B=ESL Writers; C=Good Academic Writers). It presumes that there's necessarily something about just being ESL that automatically means ESLs all research and argue better than their American counterparts and that they automatically fulfill all the other criteria for being good academic writers. Quite obviously, that's not true.


Considering that the whole argument about "ESL vs NS" is mainly of concern only to American students attending American colleges, your point would seem to be moot, even assuming it's true for sake of argument. Your argument also seems to ignore the fact that if American students are given the choice between an essay that "only" meets American educational standards but reads and sounds like it was written by an American and an essay that meets "higher" educational standards but reads and sounds like it was obviously not written by an American, they would prefer the latter. I'd reject that presumption completely.

Similarly, since there is a difference between the academic standards in the US and the UK, American-educated writers have the same obligation not to try to pretend to be UK-educated. I've lost (or declined outright) plenty of UK work and I'm always more hesitant to take advanced UK work for that reason and I've never tried to argue that a UK customer "shouldn't care" where I was educated or that all that matters is that I'm an English NS. Clients (everywhere) have the right to decide for themselves what criteria they want in a writer. The vast majority of American customers care at least as much if not more about language fluency and a native sound as they do about the depth and critical quality of the work. I'm not suggesting that either is more important than the other, just that it's always the customer's right to make that decision with all the facts presented honestly by any writer offering his services.


Without disagreeing with anything on that list I'd simply like to add two other criteria to your list of requirements while also suggesting that failing to meet any of the criterion (including mine) never means that any writer necessarily meets any (let alone all) of the others:

g) written language fluency in any language in which work is being produced; and
h) complete honesty in answering any questions from prospective clients, whether or not the writer happens to agree that the answer to those questions "should matter to the client.

Nobody here (including the any of the forum moderators) has any problem with me except for you and a few other nasty, vindictive, barely-English-speaking foreign competitors who can hardly write a single full sentence in coherent English. Why don't you demonstrate for everybody how much better your writing is than mine right in this thread started by another company rep whose company needs 36+ hours to come up with 100 meaningless words on a simple topic? At least that company rep doesn't pretend to be an industry "observer."

https://essayscam.org/forum/wc/providing-couple-pages-free-show-quality-work-student-3861/

You're no writer; nor is whoever wrote that nonsensical mess. A professional writer who's qualified to take people's hard-earned money for his time would probably have answered the question something like this and it wouldn't have taken him longer than 10 minutes to do it:

The so-called 'Fiscal Cliff refers to a series of dramatic changes to tax rates and government spending in the United States scheduled to go into effect automatically after the end of the year. Generally, those changes include the expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts and widespread deep spending cuts to more than 1,000 government programs, in addition to such extreme reductions in military spending that they were originally proposed only as a means to incentivize increased bipartisan cooperation in Washington to solve long-term budget problems.

All of those cuts were designed as part of the solution to the debt ceiling crises that unfolded in 2011 after the most radical group of Republican legislators in Congress refused to authorize an increase to the debt ceiling that permits the U.S. government to pay for the debt already incurred by the nation. The debt ceiling is a mechanism intended to limit the maximum allowable government spending from year to year. Historically, that process has never been more than a formality since it only authorizes the issuance of debt for the repayment of money already spent. However, in 2010, congressional representatives who had pledged their fidelity to the 'Tea Party dogma essentially held the good faith and credit of the nation hostage, refusing to allow that routine process without political concessions in relation to government spending that they had been unable to achieve through the normal processes of political negotiation and compromise. Because the strength and relative stability of the U.S. economy is crucial to the stability of international markets, the consequences of a default on its debts also reach far beyond its national borders.

As part of the negotiations to allow the debt ceiling to be raised in 2011, congressional Democrats were forced to agree to spending cuts to government programs and to a massive reduction in the military budget. In fact, those spending cuts were expressly intended to be so severe that both parties might be sufficiently motivated to avoid them that they would engage in more meaningful and good-faith negotiations in the interim to resolve their fundamentally irreconcilable ideological approaches to any long-term budget reform. Unless they do so within the next few days, the U.S. economy goes off that cliff on January 1st.

Actually, that's just a common American idiom, like the British equivalent "bloody"; it wasn't a qualitative prediction, although, call me crazy, to be perfectly honest, I expect that it's likely to be accurate. Do you write for a lot of American customers?

Actually, writing 100 words shouldn't take anything close to 24 minutes for anybody in this industry, especially when that "lousy" 100 words is supposed to prove the quality of your product in response to a challenge that you've already accepted (almost 8 hours ago). As of right now, your turn-around time for a single full page of writing would appear to be at least 24 hours.

How big a team and how much time do you need to write a lousy 100 words? It's one paragraph.


Sending old samples is fine, but I don't need work badly enough to write anything for free.

You can just forget about A and B because "resumes" are totally irrelevant in this business. Plenty of people have great resumes but they can't write to save their lives. Some of them paid someone else to write both their resumes and all the writing assignments required for those impressive degrees on their resumes. If you ask any writer who actually does this work for a fulltime living to take some "test" for you, especially a "grammar test" that you're presumably going to judge, he'll laugh at you or just ignore your subsequent emails. There's no need for creativity here; just common sense.

Option C makes sense and it's no different from finding a trustworthy auto mechanic. Both industries are full of cheats and shoddy imposters pretending to be qualified professionals. Don't wait until you need a big, important and expensive piece of work in either realm to "try out" a new service for the first time. Try out a new mechanic with an oil change or some minor repair and try out a new writer with a short paper with a cushioned deadline on your end. That allows you to make sure a writer is honest and that you like his/her writing style/work quality before you sink much bigger money into a pre-paid project but without insulting or wasting the time of any writers who happen to be exactly what you're hoping to find: honest, experienced, very good at what they do, and already way too busy with their work to respond to nonsense like requests for grammar tests or unpaid custom drafts.

It was great for those of us who already provided only 100% original writing because it eliminated some of the competition from those who don't. It also significantly increased the demand for custom work over previously written stock essays. When I started doing this, most assignments were still being printed out and submitted in hard copy format only.

Wallflower, you are assuming that writers have to choose one or the other. Most of the writers I know work for companies and also try to do as much freelance work as possible. Everything else being equal, writers prefer work that pays more rather than less without other concern for which of those two avenues it comes from. By the time you've been doing this seriously for a few years, you may sometimes have more company work and you may have more private work at other times. More often than not, we have some pending work of boths kinds simultaneously.

Some writers may use a similar sliding price scale based on due date, but others have a "flatter" price curve beyond the base price, typically charging the same or slightly more than companies for longer deadlines but not increasing as steeply (or as high) for shorter deadlines; it depends on each writer. Obviously, it isn't worth paying more for one of the least experienced or talented writers whose work you might also be able to get through a company; but it probably is worth it if you happen to identify one of the better ones privately, since you can't demand a specific writer at any company. You have to keep in mind that writers might be more inclined to take the same type of project privately if they keep 100% doing it privately but only 50-70% through a company, even though the price on your end might be the same either way.

However, once you're already a company customer, you shouldn't ask to do a side deal with their writers and they shouldn't accept it if you do. Similarly, legitimate writers who compete against other legitimate writers respectfully and fairly don't steal one another's clients either, such as where a writer refers an established customer to a colleague for a specific project. It's not exactly the same situation, but it's the same idea: we don't take subsequent work from those clients without asking whether they already tried the first writer and we don't take private work from clients who are already customers of the companies we write for.

So, to summarize:

The person who hates me for having violated the no-advertising rules here 2 years ago is the only person to have violated any forum rules in this thread;

The person who hates me for "boasting" now needs everybody to know how big his house is and that he's supposedly a published author;

The person who has a moral problem, on "principle" with writers who ever advertised here has admitted to supposedly "attending grad school" for clients and "graduating" them for pay;

The person who considers this entire industry a cesspool still dabbles in it, despite the fact that he's already such a professional success that he doesn't even need to; and

The person who suggested that drunk driving is a "skill" and an "art" that can't be learned too soon and that anybody who disagrees must be "jealous" of that "skill" thinks I'm the mr-n who lacks integrity and is a delusional, blind, thick-headed hypocrite.

Got it.

Yeah, there's no way you can charge substantially less than straight writing. All you have to do is a few heavy editing/rewriting projects and you realize very quickly that it's often harder, more draining, slower, and a lot harder on the hands than just writing from scratch. Almost anytime I tried to give a really good price I ended up regretting it by the time I was halfway into the project.

I've learned that you have to explain to customers why you can only charge a little less for heavy editing than for writing new material...and that even that break is more because you sympathize with their perspective than it is a reflection of how much time and effort is involved on our end. Anytime they inquire into the price of editing before they have their own draft, I advise them to spare their time and just let me do it from scratch for only a little bit more money. Otherwise, I charge by the wordcount of their draft and give them maybe $5 or $10 off the usual writing rate per page. Anything less and it's just not worth the headache on my end. Established customers understand but it's more of an issue explaining to someone inquiring for the first time about editing work. Typically, the expectation is that "editing" will cost only a small fraction of "writing." You should always ask to see the material before quoting a price, too.

First, you're not a moderator here and it isn't your place to be worrying about preaching or enforcing forum rules. Second, there's not a single advertisement of any kind by anybody in this thread or in this other thread where you launched another totally unprovoked attack against me:

essayscam.org/forum/rt/sgt-wants-word-essay-tomorrow-3736/#msg606 13
Ironically, the only rule violations of any kind in this entire thread are the 3 or 4 instances where you violated the explicit DNM rule, prompting the forum Admin to edit it out of your post (#39) the last time. Meanwhile, I haven't violated any forum rule in about 2 years or had any recent problems with the real forum admin or moderators here.


I'm here to contribute to discussions, just the same as every other writer registered on this forum. Granted, it must be excruciating for someone like you to read posts by anybody who writes in complete, grammatically correct sentences, but that doesn't necessarily make it "advertising." Who are you to appoint yourself a forum god whose role it is to determine what the motives are in the minds of other forum members for contributing to discussions where they're not even breaking any rules, all while you are?

All anybody has to do to confirm and figure out whether it's you or me who is delusional is use the search function here with the following parameters:

Search Terms: "an excellent writer" or "writing was excellent"
In Messages (not Topic Titles)
Since January 2010

There are many more, but that would require typing out the name of someone I'm not looking to provoke another fight with here.

Apparently, the "rules" you supposedly hate me for violating aren't quite simple enough, seeing as your post (#39) is the only one in this entire thread that was actually edited by the Forum Admin for breaking a forum rule.

Clearly, "rule breaking" can't possibly be the reason you detest me, leaving only your justification that you hate me because I'm "obtuse" and a "moron." While I readily admit that the number of people smarter than me is uncountably large, I think it's a pretty safe bet that nobody reading our respective contributions to this or any other thread confuses you with having even a slight chance of being one of them. You embarrassed yourself badly here essayscam.org/forum/rt/sgt-wants-word-essay-tomorrow-3736/#msg606 13 and you've been retaliating against me for that self-inflicted wound to your ego ever since by attacking me without the slightest provocation in every thread where my name is mentioned or where I post anything on this forum.


My reputation, whatever it is, is also partly attributable to the fact that the other person you're now at war with here has also seen my work first-hand and that even the company owner with whom I had a bitter falling out over a money dispute referred to my being an "excellent writer" after that falling out and repeatedly referred to me as "the best in the business" before that falling out.

Except that nobody here was "chasing" anybody, much less "taking advantage" of anybody. A new forum member apparently read through this very old thread (which contained no advertisement of any kind by anybody) and decided that he liked the way I express myself in writing about this industry enough to ask about contacting me. I didn't even respond to that inquiry. You decided to attack me personally and lie about me in this thread just because someone asked about me.

First, you justified your attacks (in other threads) by claiming that you're so offended by forum rule breakers on "principle" because (admittedly) I used to advertise here against the rules. Since I pointed out that makes no sense because you don't seem to have any problem at all breaking the DNM rule here (now, not only in the distant past like me), you've switched your justification for hating me to my supposed stupidity, presumably, compared to your vastly superior intellect; as though being stupid is a reasonable "justification" for hating someone, in the first place.

As far as the threshold issue of "taking advantage" of anybody, there has never been a single complaint about me by any customer since the day I joined the forum 4 years ago and you have absolutely no reason to think, much less to imply or actually state, that I've ever taken advantage of or "conned" anybody. Providing high-quality work to essay companies and private customers for a fair price, all while being very careful to decline any work I can't complete at a high level isn't "taking advantage" of anybody, especially when they contact or ask about me first instead of the other way around.

You don't care about any of that, obviously. You're nasty and vindictive, and very resentful that I (apparently) do this for a living much more successfully than you do and you're also extremely angry that you embarrassed yourself so badly in our exchange in that ridiculous drunk driving discussion. Anybody who cares to read through all this nonsense can see that without any input from me. My preference would be to ignore one another here and both contribute positively to this forum. This fight, like all the others you've previously instigated with me totally unprovoked, was not my choice to have; but if you continue, I'll continue to defend myself, at your expense much more than mine, judging from others' feedback.

I'm not that familiar with them, having only seen a handful of reports sent by clients who'd been ripped off by various companies and writers; but the ones I saw definitely displayed the original source documents along with the url and all the plagiarized text highlighted.

Actually, they're not similar at all:

Mocking someone would consist of something like sarcastic comments after he (meaning you) says something incredibly stupid about drunk driving being a learned "skill" that needs to be "practiced" in a discussion about the legal drinking age or maybe just pointing out that anybody still looking for "leads on new companies to work for" after 4 years and 1,200+ posts might really want to start considering an entirely different line of work by now.

That's mocking.

Stalking someone on a forum would be launching totally unprovoked personal attacks on a regular basis in any thread where another forum member posts or in any thread where his name is mentioned by anybody else when there isn't even an argument taking place.

That's stalking.

Psychotic would be justifying those vitriolic unprovoked attacks with claims about moral principles over your respect for "forum rules" about advertising previously violated by that person in the very distant past when you're not even an administrator of that forum and clearly have no problem violating other "forum rules" yourself in those very same attacks in the present. Same goes for harboring that much hatred if you're "not" really just competing (poorly) with that person for work and you're just a fellow forum member supposedly offended on moral "principle" or because of his supposed stupidity.

That's coo coo for Cocoa Puffs, Pal.

*Correction:

...anybody still looking for "leads on new companies to work for" after *2 years and 1,200+ posts might really want to start considering an entirely different line of work by now.