They're totally legit. I should know, because I write for them every single day of my life (about 50 papers every month). They'll definitely respond but they're always very busy. What's the problem? I have nothing to do with cutomer service (just a writer), but I may be able to answer your question. Contact me privately if you don't want to post it on the open forum.

They wrote you a paper that you turned in as your own and it actually got an "F"?

Can you post it just for us to see how bad it was?

How could you possibly have any basis whatsoever for "doubting" my writing skills? I have actual customer feedback on this forum from multiple customers who report A grades from my help and zero negative feedback. If you mean on the basis of our respective contribution to these exchanges, then you're completely delusional.

You expressed the opinion that ESL writers suffer from an undeserved bad reputation and that it shouldn't matter whether or not companies use them. In the context of a discussion topic about companies' not disclosing their use of ESLs, the inference seems to be that it's not unethical for them not to disclose that. I'm simply suggesting that many people don't share your opinion about ESLs at all and that's why it's unethical to deceive customers by denying using ESLs.


Do you really need me to highlight every single thing in your prior post that makes it completely obvious that you're an ESL? I acknowledged that you write well for an ESL; you do not write well enough that it's not obvious to anybody who isn't and that's why customers have the ethical right to know the truth before they select a company.


Well, in my "opinion," that would probably make you an idiot. Just sharing.


Then we just have very different definitions of "cool."


If you're asking me how I feel about students who misuse model essays by turning them in for credit, I think that's their business. It's unethical in terms of the grading curve; otherwise, I don't think it really matter for reasons I'm too lazy to detail here, especially since I'm already very familiar with all the counterarguments and I don't have the patience to address them as though this is the first time I've ever had the discussion.

No kidding.


That's great for your personal communications, but when native English language speakers order essays, they don't want "reasonably proficient"; they want 100% fluency without any obvious signs of ESL-level "proficiency" which happens to be evident throughout your post above notwithstanding that it's not too bad for an ESL.

As far as "ethical standards" for the industry, how about just starting with truth in advetising? Take all the business available from customers who don't mind ESLs writing for them but don't lie about it to deceive all the other customers who don't want their papers written by ESLs. Don't impose what you happen to believe about the quality of ESL writing on others because they have the ethical right to make that decision for themselves. How 'bout that?

The problem is NOT A SINGLE FORUM USER has ever claimed to have been "scammed" by ET. Only competitors of ET have suggested that one 2 year-old isolated report on Rip-offReports makes that claim. Incidentally, even that report is listed as resolved because the customer did get a full refund. That customer believed that he'd been "scammed" because no writer ever took his paper off the ET board. When that happens, the customer always gets a full refund. He just panicked and assumed the worst when he didn't receive his paper and posted a complaint prematurely.

If it were actual customers with negative experiences, that would be a different story; but it's only ET's competitors posting disparaging remarks about ET on here. That's the problem.

(Again, I'm only here to promote MYSELF as much as permitted on this forum. But as one of ET's writers, I do have first-hand knowledge of how they do business and how they treat customers, and I can't stand reading outright lies questioning their legitimacy or suggesting that they're one of the many essay companies that do scam customers and writers or provide poor-quality or plagiarized or previously-written papers when customers order custom papers from them.)

Actually, even ESLs who are fairly fluent typically still use very awkward sentence structure and often make other subtle but very characteristic mistakes that no U.S. customers want in their work. Thanks for the demo...please keep posting.

Actually, one reason customers prefer to deal with U.S. companies is that U.S. companies are subject to U.S. laws. When you're dealing with foreign companies, you can't do much about it if there's a problem.

Also, as a general rule, ESL speakers do not speak (much less write) in professional-sounding English, as demonstrated repeatedly by your own posts. Do some ESLs speak and write perfect English? Yes. Do some Americans speak and write English poorly? Yes. But, if you're going with your odds of getting a well written English paper, you're much more likely to be disappointed by having an ESL writer than by a native speaker.

I've applied to writing services in the UK only to be told that they only use writers from the UK with degrees from the UK. I didn't start a thread to rant about American-educated writers being as qualified as UK-educated writers and I didn't reapply with untrue crdentials from the UK. If American students prefer native speakers as writers, they have the same prerogative and they don't want to be duped into using ESL writers by false advertising designed to trick them into using ESLs if that's not their preference.

If those two major downsides of using ESL writers weren't true, the foreign companies wouldn't work so hard to hide the truth about their actual locations and the qualifications of their writers. Consumers have the right to decide for themselves that they prefer non-ESLs, regardless of what you happen to believe about their preferences. You only get to decide what criteria are appropriate when you order a product.

Just be honest and advertise "the best-educated and most talented ESL writers in the world" but don't lie to consumers to get their business under false pretenses.

Yeah, that's not too difficult to write but could be a pain to research. Did you provide sources? You never know, they might still fill the order late. Hope that's the case.

Bambi, I write for Essay as well as independently. Last year I had several pending papers removed from my Essay account by the company before I wrote them because they had been purchased with stolen credit cards. That's probably why they are more careful about it now.

If it's that much of a concern, you can always just have a non-student friend place your order (from any site you choose to use) using their card and personal info and just pay your friend in cash up front. That way, you can satisfy any payment verification ID requests legitimately and still keep all your personal ID and school info totally private.

Also, I doubt they require a school e-mail because I've written plenty of professional papers, correspondence, and other non-academic papers for them that were clearly ordered by non-students.

Just out of curiosity, what was your essay about?

Essays are supposed to be used strictly as models and referenced sources. If the student chooses to use them differently, we have no way of knowing that but if you're actually stupid enough to ask for a "rewrite" based on your professor's comments or because you say you didn't get an "A," then you will be told that we do not continue to work on essays that have been submitted for credit in violation of our explicit terms of use. Otherwise, the issue never comes up because all the legit companies are in business to earn repeat customers, not to rip off first-time/last time customers.

I'm not clear why you'd have to disclose any of your personal information when ordering an essay. As long as you provide a working e-mail address and the necessary information to submit payment, you can maintain your privacy. Just use a friend or relative's credit card or paypal account if you're that concerned about it.

You'll get your essay on time unless no writer ever takes it off the board; in that case, you'll just get a full refund on your next credit card cycle, like any other legit business. Your only risk is not finding out that no writer ever took your order within that time frame. As with other legit sites, the exact quality of the paper depends on who takes your order, but I don't think they use any bad writers. We all had to submit samples of our writing to the company initially and this business relies on satisfied repeat customers.

Not necessarily; I do it routinely.

What was your paper about? If you didn't get a paper, it simply means no writer ever took your order, in which case, you'll get a full refund of whatever you prepaid. If you placed an order, you have a 5-digit order # (beginning with a 9). Just give it to me so I can check the board to see if it's still up. Of course, if you're full of it and just making all this up, you'll never provide that 5-digit # even though there's not a single conceivable reason you wouldn't give me the number if any of this is true. I watch that board constantly, so even if it's gone, chances are I'll recognize the topic if you paraphrase it here.

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I didn't think so only because all the pronouns are first-person. Usually if there are specs from the instructor, they just paste them without changing the voice. In that case, the only problem is that those specs require more than the # of pages ordered.

Because of that, I can't just take the paper...I gotta first bother the company to contact the cutomer and ask about authorizing deviating from the specs or adding a few pages to the order.

Perfect example of what NOT to do if you want your order to be taken ASAP by an experienced writer who gets plenty of work and doesn't need to spend twice as much time writing a paper because of your specs, not to mention dealing with the inevitable headache of a rewrite request because it was impossible to fulfill every one of your specs within the number of pages ordered. Chances are, if someone takes this order it's not a writer who does this fulltime, but someone who writes fewer papers just to supplement his or her income. This is a very simple 4-pg paper, in one of my top specialty areas no less, but I ain't takin' it because of all this:

"14 Paragraphs or more

PARAGRAPH 1- Seven or more sentences to get the audience's attention and strongly state my position on the issue.
PARAGRAPH 2- Acknowledge that there are arguments in opposition and in three or more sentences, name those counter-arguments.
PARAGRAPHS 3,4,5- Describe the argument named in paragraph 2, in three well-developed paragraphs.
PARAGRAPH 6- Transition paragraph, state that although the counter-arguments have some strengths, they also have weaknesses.
PARAGRAPHS 7,8,9- In these paragraphs point out the weaknesses in the counter-arguments you describe in paragraphs 3, 4, and 5.
PARAGRAPH 10- Transition paragraph describing in three or more sentences, your arguments.
PARAGRAPHS 11,12,13- In these three paragraphs describe and support each of your arguments.
PARAGRAPH 14- In at least five sentences close the paper."

I don't need any help from a college freshman organizing a simple 4-pg paper and if he/she knew how to write the paper, it wouldn't have to be ordered from an essay site. I don't think it's even possible to comply with all those specs without exceeding the pages ordered. Seven sentences in the introductory paragraph, for example, will make it virtually impossible to meet all the other specs in 4 pgs unless your sentences are constructed at a grade-school level.

Most reputable companies also include all the info about how many words/pg they provide right in their website details. Specifying that you want more than that is a waste of your time just like the orders I see sometimes where the student asks for "5 single spaced pages" even though the sites clearly say that they provide double spaced pages. If I take those orders I always ask the customer whether they want to pay for the extra pages and they almost always don't, because it's simply an attempt to get twice as much work for the money by "specifying" things that contradict the stated policies. Maybe once out of 10 times they thank me for the alert and actually pay for the additional work; the rest of the time, they were just trying to "specify" a 50% discount for themselves.

Also, you don't want to be obnoxious in your specifications: I sometimes see orders for perfectly good subjects that no writer ever takes off the board because the order specifies exactly how many sentences per paragraph and exactly how many paragraphs per page, and exactly how many citations per paragraph, and exactly how many quotes, etc. We do this for a living; you're placing an order because you aren't that good at writing; so, just let us write it.

If you're such an expert at outlining papers, why would you need to pay anybody else to provide a model paper? Do you tell your car mechanic how many turns you want on each screw or do you just ask him to fix your leak? You can add all the detailed specs you want to, but if you go crazy with that, don't be too surprised when no writer wants to bother with your paper and you just get a refund and no paper, especially during the busy season.

Most essay sites give you 250-275 words/pg. Some go as high as 300, but we writers don't really count words as we write: we write a standard double-spaced page without skipping any lines, which usually comes out to about 25 lines of text per page. My papers sometimes go a little longer than the pages ordered because it can take more time to tie things up in exactly the number of pages ordered than to just finish a last paragraph on the next page About once a year I get a request for an additional 50 words or whatever because the customer actually counted them but nobody ever asks about paying us extra when it goes over.

There's not much difference between HS senior level and college freshman, but when in doubt, go with the higher one.

Hope that helps.

Kaz, are you the 20-pg dexmedetomidine paper? That's probably out of my depth but I do plenty of other medical issues...more ethics/legal/historical/policy/nursing stuff than syntheses of technical research articles. I used to write fulltime for HHS-OIG.

Tell me your beef with ET*. Better yet, just put your money where your mouth is and order a paper from them...ask for me as your writer and then let everybody here know what happens.

MRE, why do you say ********* is a fraud? I've been writing for them for 4 years and my clients are very happy. You can test the site out anytime at very little risk by simply ordering a single page essay to see what you get for your money.

Totally legit company. Write whatever papers you want and get a check every month. 1099 at year's end. Writers always get paid; customers always get their money's worth for whatever they order. No problems as long as your writing is good.

No problem, but I'm an atheist =)

There's no option on the writer's screen for making any changes to your account or about payment types and I don't know whether or not there are other payment options when you first sign up.

You just get a bulletin board-type of screen displaying all available orders w/details and if you want to write one you select it off the board. You get an auto e-mail confirming the order/details/due date/etc. After you upload the paper to the system, it credits your total for the month. Same basic story for similar academic paper services.

I don't know anything about foreign currency, but they send us a paper check on or about the last day of every month. In December, we usually get 2 checks about the 15th and 31st.

Sorry EW, I have no idea whether your location is an issue. Send them your resume and some samples and see what they say.

Yes. Every customer for whom I've written through the company for the last 4 or 5 years. Need first-hand proof? Order a 1-pg paper at their cheapest rate and see what happens. You'll get your paper exactly as ordered and it will pass any plagiarism test you use.

If one of the purposes of this site is to find reputable essay companies, you can test out any of the ones I've mentioned and then post your results right here for everyone. If you also want to test me, ask for me as your writer. Swat2002 can already attest to my reliability in freelance work as well. Just go nuts and risk the lousy $20...it's worth the price of not wasting more of your lives arguing endlessly about where to find quality essay writing.

I'm sorry I rejected your project. Nothing personal. "Frauds" don't ever reject prepaid work.

Anybody in doubt about those sites can simply place a test order for a single page paper and report the results right here for everybody.

Exactly. Actually, one of my employers already thanked me for my attempts to defend their company against some of the untruths posted about them on here and if I had anything to hide from them, I wouldn't be using the same name on here as on their site. They have absolutely no issue with our finding our own clients anywhere we want as long as they're not already their customers, nor do they seem to have any issue with my publicly disclosing that I am one of their writers. They did, however, ask me to leave WB alone, so I'll have to respect that request.

You're truly an idiot.

All I've done on this site with respect to my employers is DEFEND their businesses as being 100% legit. I'm allowed to cultivate any "amount" of private clients I wish from ANYWHERE I wish except directly on any of the sites I work for. And if my employers visit this forum, they already know I'm here and that I have no reason to hide that, or anything I've said here.

Please, by all means, explain again why it's not incorrect for "YOU" to say "amount of errors" instead of number of errors. Is it also correct for "YOU" to say "amount of pennies" and "number of copper"? I'll try my best to "COMPREHEND" your nonsense this time.


You're the one who brought my nose back into this with your references to mistakes of mine you think you "proved" after I pointed out that someone whose own grammar isn't so great shouldn't be such a critic of others'.

This was an argument about GRAMMAR you dope, not about anybody's "business." You'e a vindictive little putz who actually threatened to try to ruin someone's livelihood to retaliate for being embarassed over your less than perfect grammar and word usage. Your obvious delusions of grandeur are evident in the way you always capitalize "ME" and "MY" in your posts, which speaks volumes about you as well.

Someone has a truly "gluttonous" "amount" of self delusions.


Do "YOU" honestly think that a SINGLE person reading that nonsense actually believes that it's correct to say "amount of errors" instead of "number" of errors just because "YOU" didn't count the number of errors you referenced?

The only things you "proved" are: (1) you're an exremely pompous and insecure person who takes offense that anybody would even "dare" to suggest that maybe you're not quite the grammarian you think you are, and (2) there are absolutely no limits to the silliness of the self-justifying arguments you will pull outta your ass to avoid admitting you're totally wrong even when it's completely obvious to any objective person that you are.

Those are your "personal circumstances."

I just explained several reasons that customers occasionally get so mad they retaliate by filing false charges. Why would you assume that a single nasty five-year-old complaint is necessarily valid, especially against a company that provided about 70,000 papers during that same time period? Wouldn't you expect more than ONE complaint if the company were a scam? Isn't it much more LIKELY that it's from a single customer who had a gripe or was just too stupid to check his credit card account for the refund from a paper that was never actually charged because no writer ever took it off the writers' board?

How do you explain the lack of complaints from the OTHER 69,999 customers?

If you're so sure that Term Paper Writers, quick papers, and advanced dissertations are all fraudulent, I already told you how to test out your theory very easily: cough up the lousy $20 or so for a 1-pg paper from any of them and see what happens. If you also want to test me in particular, just request me on any of those sites.

It would be easier for you to just ask whether I handle Law, or Psychology, or Nursing papers (etc.) if you're looking to take me up on my test of ****** than for me to type out every single subject I write, wouldn't it? I do many different subjects.

[What happened to the Edit function? Is it only available within a certain amount of time after your original posts?]

If you have access to aol, most of my areas are listed there in my profile, but I handle more than a dozen different academic areas and I don't take any jobs if I'm not completely confident in my ability to provide a high quality paper.

Nobody here knows anything about me except for what I've "claimed" since registering. And I haven't claimed ANYTHING about the quality of my writing unless mentioning that I cover quite a few areas and have many loyal customers constitutes "claiming" something about my writing.

I have said only that I have been writing for several sites mentioned here and that they are all totally legitimate enterprises that deliver whatever essays their websites "claim" to deliver. A few people (other than deluca, whose work I declined his morning) have hired me from here and they will eventually be able to vouch for my work.

I guess I'm also "claiming" not to be a fraud, since frauds don't turn down any prepaid work, especially from students located abroad.

For the third time, order a 1-pg paper from either of those places at their lowest rate and ask for me. You'll get your paper.

I also write for MP. As I said about ******, if you think they're a fraud, you can also request me for a paper from them and you'll get your paper exactly as ordered. Even if it's out of my academic areas, someone else will write it after I notify the company that I'm declining the request for me.

I've been writing for Personal Term Paper since 2003. It's a totally legit company located in Jersey. You know nothing about the actual truth of that isolated complaint. They provide approximately 12,000 papers every month and any legitimate customer complaints generate a rewrite notice to writers.

Occasionally, you get ridiculous complaints like customers who submit their papers for academic credit (which the sales contract prohibits) and then request "rewrites" 2 weeks later based on their instructors' comments.

After writing a few thousand papers, I've collected dozens of loyal repeat customers who ask for me in all their orders. In that time, I've also had a handful of idiots threaten to sue (or whatever) because they wanted papers rewritten for being "too good" which isn't a valid reason for a rewrite. One time, a kid make all sorts of ridiculous requests for stuff he never had in his original order and when his request was refused, he accused me of "plagiarizing" a simple paper that I wrote about O.J. Simpson that was 100% off the top of my head for which the only thing I even went on-line to look up at all was the correct spelling of "Bruno Magli" shoes.

I've also had complaints that all my sources were "from New York" based on the fact that most book publishers are in NYC; and another time, a customer angrily demanded to know why I "left out" the book title "written by Ibid" in the Bibliography (I'm not kidding).

In my experience, most customers are very appreciative, but like any other business, sometimes complete retards order papers and they get very angry when they're told that they can't hold us responsible for their silly mistakes. I have no idea what happened to that one customer, but I guarantee that nobody just took his payment and then never wrote the paper. He's either angry and retaliating over something else or his essay went to his spam folder or something like that. More likely, his paper was never taken off the board by any writer and he never checked his credit card statement the next month to see that his prepayment was refunded in full. (If nobody takes your paper, that's what happens, because they're charged at the time they place the order.)

I think it's irresponsible to start calling an entire company a fraudulent enterprise based on a single unsubstantiated complaint like that whose veracity you know nothing about. If anybody REALLY wants to test out Personal Term Paper Writer, just order a single page paper and request Freelance Writer in your order. I can't refute the specific complaint you linked, but I can certainly prove that if you order a paper from them, you'll receive your paper by its due date. This isn't a solicitation, either; I don't really need that single-page order.