My (simple) question about freelancercareers.com is in two parts: (a) do they really pay? (b) do they pay on a timely basis?

NB: If you do not understand the essence of the question, do not waste your (precious) time replying to my post. To clarify, I am not interested in knowing how much they pay; I already know that.

You can add to that list, Freelancercareers.com. They are one and the same company - i.e essaywriters=freelancercareers.com=writers.ph. They will never pay. I am not very sure of their exact location, but the numbers their support team uses to call, are registered in Wilmington, Delaware. At least I am sure of two of these numbers, one is registered in Kent the other in Newcastle. So it may seem that, at times, the scammers are residents in the U.S. If you have information about their clients, which you can get if you are attentive to detail, you can warn them that they may NEVER use any "product" for which you have not been paid. Showing the client that you have not been paid for their orders is simple, their website used to provide one with that capability, that is, before they locked you out.

@oxipital what I can confirm is that the company (if it is a company) does not pay its writers (I have proof if you want one).If you refer to my previous post, you will see I was also asking the same question as you are. Please do not work for them. I know they have a large supply of orders, but I guess it is because they swindle their writers out of their earnings. I have worked for them and got very positive feedback from customers (I also have proof of this), but when it came to the time to honour their part of the contract, they just started playing PR stunts (need I say I have proof?). The organization is a.k.a essaywriters.net=writers.ph. Their support calls from two locations, kent and Newcastle; both in Wilimngton,DE.

Just PM me, I will let you in on where you can access this after I anonymize it. I cannot possibly post it here, the site does not seem (to me) as being impartial. I would be dumb to expect it to handle any evidence presented without a possibility of distortion.

If,


was a genuine question, then why would you suggest this.


From this, it is hard to tell who will deal with the distortions (if there were to be any) unless you meant this:


or this:


In that case, the posting here would defeat its initial purpose.


Probably you know them better; I don't.


Does this mean that a PM is ineffective? If so, what would be the purpose of having it on the site? I guess sharing could easily qualify.


Probably, but in this case, the deduction is wrong.
For instance, wouldn't they also have a reason to trend carefully?


This is a wrong conclusion, but still, there could be a valuable advice in the second part. I will consider it.

Accordingly, if it is impossible for Oxipital to get his or her answer via my suggested method, s/he can continue working for them. That way s/he will be ABSOLUTELY sure if they pay or not.

Wrong. I fail to understand how you (although I have read about your practice to delete names of persons to whom you are responding/quoting, I feel by using the active I do not come out as "personalizing" arguments) draw such a conclusion.

From various threads here, let me give you an example, (essayscam.org/forum/gt/essayscam-org-essayfraud-orgs-purpose-197/) hardly can one establish the credibility of the site. I have not found any reason to accuse the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal of lacking credibility. I premise my arguments, you fail to identify how my premise is based on false logic or my conclusion a wrong deduction.


I wonder which truth I am avoiding here. I guess you could be familiar with some saying to the effect that a lie told over and over, could sometimes become a truth, off course, depending on the recipient. So your version of truth may not be so apparent to me.

Finally, I could post some information I have watered down here. But as I have noted, I have removed various aspects that may affect whether this is evidence or "evidence." To clarify my earlier point, I will never, for instance, post detailed information here that includes order IDs, topics covered, payment values, or any other information that has the potential to reveal, for instance, the customer's identity. I have provided the reason for not doing so, if you care to read between the lines. But here's is some where I have removed substantial information.

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September 3 2010 16:42 Order is sent to customer not paid

Ok, and when I said I have received positive feedback from customers, I can exemplify this (I have similarly deleted the name appended to the sign off)

Dear Writer!
You have been given a bonus for "Very satisfied" survey submitted by the customer to the order you completed.
Thank you for your efforts!
Keep up a good job!

Best regards,

Need I say, neither have I received the principal amount nor the bonus for clarity sake?

Found out that the link I posted is not working, but here it is essayscam.org and essayfraud's purpose (?)

and in case it does not work, the title was essayscam.org and essayfraud's purpose. This could be "old", and perhaps old references have been surpassed by subsequent events. But here is another Official reason from the moderator for enabling abuse and libel

Basically, hardly any thread here goes to completion without the subject matter being lost in the course of "arguments."

I was reading until you signed off with this. Then I realized the issue may not be the ethics of the industry, but a preconceived stereotype you have of the industry. How do high school drop outs get to write a winning phd thesis? If they do, then, we need more of those high school dropouts than the phd holders supervising the students.

Another (simple) observation that comes out, from subsequent arguments, is that doing a report for graduate and undergraduate levels, is a lesser "evil" than for the phd students. Don't they also come to "serve" the society based on what they have learned?

The ethical nature of this industry cannot be discussed as to the manner in which the customer uses the product, but as to the quality and what the product, when used rightfully, can achieve. If we went on discussing every product based on how the consumer uses it, irrespective of there being instructions of appropriate use, at times, then hardly would any product pass the "ethical" rating.

One of the best analysis I have read in this entire forum. It contains the "SWOTs" of the company. I am not sure it wouldn't be considered a recommend though.

Considering the grammar articulation here, I was appalled to find a "breaking-the-pencil" graphic there. Shouldn't we rather have a "sharpening-the-pencil" graphic, if we're sharpening the students' skills?

Equally as the owners have a right to protect themselves, they have an obligation to ensure security of personal information of their writers. I will clarify later.

I know there's a comma missing after equally. But, I am not sure which is more of a folly; not inserting a comma, or insisting on commas on a forum. The latter is a classic form of being devoid of content.

...and "explanatory" clauses, according to you, are NOT independent clauses. I was inclined on inquiring what set of English tools you possess - American, British, or a combination. But, hey, I guess you come from where they find fault in this: "If anybody has a problem with my English, let them not hire my services."

Then try finding how to make two "stand-alone" sentences (with subject verb and object) from my earlier phrase. If you cannot, I may never be at a position to assist you.


I knew you would have problems with the "singular-plural" aspect. I would be really disappointed...oops, even in this case, if you were to miss that.

Am I in "a blocked-IP status", or you have temporarily disabled it so that I can assess your "informed" lessons.

I need this thread to be at the top of the list. It seems to be doing more good than harm.

So there's some truth in the claim, after all.

Ex-employee and competitor Vs. former employer battle? Where's the evidence from either side? Could "First hand knowledge" be the evidence we will ever get from one side?

I guess "understood" would be better in the context. Are you always that devoid of content?

Seems you're still in a rush. By doing this:


... the least you can expect is a flood of "legitimate" advice.

You must have underestimated her pride, you forgot that she could block some country's ip addresses and not worry about it. I am surprised she didn't expand her list of victims among her former cronies. Only one of her victims surprises me.

You'd be opening a mine field here if this issue was to become the focus. There's too much vanity going around; you could call it competitive rivalry.

So your definition of scam is someone who informs that s/he cannot handle your paper? Even where s/he refunds your money? The only other reason I would think of, is if the company published your order at rates that are not worthy spending time on. Look around, you will perhaps find a company that has sweatshops; such will never inform you that they cannot handle your paper.

Having shorter paragraphs; even without adding extra spacing before or after paragraphs, my usual page in times new roman, 12 font, double space and 1 inch margins, rarely exceeds 300 words.

I am sure in some of such companies, in their terms and conditions, they will cleverly add some clause to the effect that they offer "model papers" to guide students in developing their own, "custom", papers for submission to their colleges. And they will require clients to agree to such terms when placing the order. But things become more murky where the client has only requested for editing or proofreading services, and the company proceeds to sell such a paper to another party later.