Freelancewriter is being silly,the question is about the ethics of the whole stuff. If you are scammed right in the process of seeking help to scam, is it moral to start shouting around about scammers?

From what I can tell today, both Admissions Essay Revision and Wonderful Research are well known scams.

i don't have to prove my allegations if you can demonstrate they are not not scammers.your inability to do so is all the proof that is required.

Precisely because you work for them, it is hard for you (evil even!), to talk bad about your employers. I guess that is why you feel at liberty dismiss other writing companies you don't work for. I have come across forums where students are complaining about both sites, what do you say about that? Besides, you are not the only writer who write for these companies, you should not defend them that emphatically. In my next post, i will give Pheelyks 10 reasons why i am not a dumb. I will also prove all my allegations, i wonder what WB will then say.

If you think i am an idle babbler, you are mistaken. Consider the following complaint from a customer:
Sometimes last year, I ordered an essay on St Augustine confessions with Research. It was a critical analysis paper on the bearing of Augustine early association with cultist beliefs on his views on trinity and creation. The paper was rather urgent and I was promised I will get it on time. I was charged what I thought was exorbitant amount but I was consoled by the fact that I would get quality paper on such a short notice. Again, my internet search had revealed that they are totally trustworthy and I think that is the mistake I did. The paper I got was completely out of context, it was a summary of confessions which is what I had not asked. I was so annoyed that I decided not to pursue the matter further. I flunked the paper and was investigated for possible plagiarism. Being the brightest student in the class, the professor found it impossible to believe I could write such rubbish. I would urge all students to consider all positive reviews on Research with a pinch of salt.

Avery
if you are interested, i will give you the link to the forum where i got this stuff.

I am not as stupid as you think, FW. Your point is that a complaint from a customer does not mean that a writing company is fraudulent. My point is that such complaints necessarily suggest that it may be a scam. But why all this double speak? You, FB and WB, have being quick to point out that your so called "Ukrainian scams" are fraudulent purely on the basis of complaints posted here about the quality their work. Now, WR is on the spotlight and you have come out fighting for them. You are a hypocrite who is incapable of having an honest balanced discussion. Whacker1 has highlighted an important issue elsewhere in this site when he seeks to know the basis of judging a company scam. WR has been caught pants down on quality issues this time round and its representatives in this forum are peeved. If Wonderful Research is not a scam, and the complaint I posted about WR is just an isolated case without much bearing on the reputation of the company (read Research), don't ever badmouth any writing company here or elsewhere. In the meantime, let's have a serious discussion on the obvious pointers to WR scam. You can never be too sure about anything in this industry.

That i can't tell, but i am pretty sure you can't proofread any essay. You would most likely introduce more errors. I am wondering why would anyone ask such a dumb question. Someone in this forum (FB or WB) will call you the F word.

I agree that Idaho is obviously a poor writer but do you honesty believe such wannabes can be weeded out? Quite a good number of customers of some of these sites are international students and in fact request writers to make intentional mistakes. In such a case, a writer like you would not suffice. I think writers like Idaho are important and will continue to thrive in spite of opposition from old timers like you.

I would say no but you can try them out.

I can't blame Idaho, he is desperate but i also doubt whether he can get even by plagiarizing. In as much as i defend ESL writers, i feel that myopic unethical site operators are choking the industry with their despicable business practices. It doesn't make sense to defraud writers a few dollars while you need them tomorrow to write and get more money.

I have had an essaywriters.net account (but i don't write for them) for several years now and i use it to keep tabs on how they are doing business. Around 60% of their orders during the low season pay $ 2.79 and the amount jumps to between $4 to $5 during the high season. Before they settled at $2.79 for the least paid order, i had noted something interesting. If a very simple order paid, say $ 2 or $2.5 per page, it would stay forever on the available orders section but on raising the amount, the order would be quickly taken up. It would appear then that anything below $2.5 doesn't make sense even for an ESL writer.

Why don't you start your own, or you sweet-talk some forum members who have responded to your thread? Some indeed are owners or representatives of writing companies and can hire you on the spot. But you also need to be careful as quite a good number are involved in stupid shenanigans and will take you for a ride.

My foot! Nobody can be fabulous for an egomaniac like you.

This thread has some interesting stuff. Rustychains and somewriter had raised an important issue which WB killed completely with his diversion. Methinks this guy has been planted to kill all useful discussions, he may be the mod really because he keeps on invoking mods when a discussion is at orgasm. I have tried to join that yahoo group mentioned and it looks like its no longer active. You can share with me the information you will harvest, Travel Bird.

What kind of advertising?

I have always suspected that some of the forum regulars are guns for hire and that is why even the mods have taken great exception and dissociated themselves from them. I get what you are saying about writers uniting but i think you are hopelessly idealistic with a stuff straight from George Orwell animal farm. Assuming that writers were to unite and start the writing service you are talking about, "pigs" (read scammers or ukranians or pakistanis etc etc ) would "wisen up" and scam the other animals (writers).

But you can, i suppose.

Because everybody else, including you, is more stupid.

I think your assessment is not only accurate, but also very objective and candid. I wish more forum members were as honest and open minded when exposing supposed fraudulent sites.

They won't.

But i guess you are competent, secure and successful EFL ****!

The answer is an emphatic NO.....ukacademia.co.uk is no scam despite that fact that some misguided people here want us to believe so. I don't know a site you can get an essay help from. If you are looking for direction in this site, you are in a woefully bad place, the advice you will get is just biased.

All businesses that die are usually "old" and "respected" before customers realize they can go elsewhere and get more value for money. I write "garbage" but if it is reasonably good enough and also affordable, who cares about your expensive ET and CP damn papers. You are trying to dam a river using bare hands, you can't succeed. ESL wave is nothing short of a tsunami that will swallow you arrogant wannabe writers who can't get any others job because you are failures.

I din't say that i write garbage, you are putting words in my mouth. The thing is that you don't believe that at my best, i can write anything of average to good quality. Nobody orders a paper from ET, CP or even AR hoping to get 100%, NO, most expect to score an average grade which is a deal because they were busy elsewhere. Your analogy about cars is not right on point. To a student, Its all about trade-off between quality and cost. Better buy an expensive car that work but why buy an extremely expensive paper when a cheaper one will do? Stop pretending being smart and tell me.....why do you think some "ESL garbage" continue to attract customers? I agree there are others who get a raw deal (some ESL writers are not really good at all) but overall, most customers get a paper of fairly good quality and they are willing to purchase another paper from the same company.

You are right, skippy.

Go ahead and place your order, it is a real good company.

They are neither, Methinks they are desperate but a few could be unqualified or insane...perhaps even both!

How much do they pay to write a page?


Try writerbay.com, their pay is reasonable @ $5 per page on average. They also pay on time.


of all people that i know who write for essaywriters.net, not one has lost a coin. you only run into problems with them if you plagiarize. the only issue i have with them is their CPP which is probably the lowest in the whole industry but perhaps that is not a problem because some writers do so parttime only. again, for some writers, the opportunity cost of the time spent writing is zero, meaning that you still gain by writing at their dismal CPP. i also think that a 20% penalty for lateness and 100% for order cancellation is a bit too high. i think essaywriters should raise their cpp to at least 5 dollars to retain some of their experienced writers because their accounts are changing hands very quickly nowadays.

They are desperate, so what? What is your option? You are really annoying....who told you i can't get a better job? Essay writing is not the best paying job there wherever you are? You must have been unable to get another job or you are a mom taking care of your brood!

hehehe...you make me laugh....suggest good industries where you feel our talents will be put to maximum use and better rewarded.

Okey, my dearest pheelyks...there no doubt you are doing well if what you are saying is anything to go by...now then, how can i have a slice of your success?


By the way congrats if you own a house, i was fearing that you still live with mom and dad.

pheelyks
That is pretty impressive!


There is no doubt that you will soon be a millionaire, don't forget to hire me as a janitor in your company.


Yeah, you couldn't really.

Can i email you scanned copies boss?

I like this. This pheelyks thing annoys, its so juvenile that you are left wondering. You have hit where it pains...congrats.

I was just hoping that he/she will be touched.

I am not kenyan

I appreciate your encouragement. You are giving me workable suggestions unlike some people who are so dismissive. What if there are no enough janitorial jobs here, what should i and my friend do? Feel free to email me specific details about other freelance writing jobs please at johnwalker475@gmail. Remember that we are trying to help my friend and i have already contacted him on some of the suggestions here and his response has been positive so far.

He was hoping that they would pay him eventually.


Don't you understand, there was the promise of payment.


I have been fearing that exposing 4writers here is perhaps futile, but who knows, he (the owner) may decide to pay out of humanity.


He is still out in the streets and have gone without food for the last two or so days.

Now....that is a nonsensical assertion. There are usually a group of three or four forum members who fires the first salvo and when you hit back, you are labelled a bad boy. I think that is not fair.

I have used them once and they did not disappoint. You could try them out.