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lex  2 | 31  
Apr 23, 2007 | #161
ooh give nom_de_plume a chance..

some of you said that they are outfits from ukraine or anywhere.. how come she/he writes good english? i could be wrong, but she could be a legit writer, though not connected as direct employee of the company..

after having had the time to ponder, i arrived on the theory that essaywriters.net is based in the USA but just employs the services of other countries to handle their customer service needs to save on labor costs (this explains the accents one hears upon calling their customer and writer care).

of course, i'll completely believe that the company is trying to build a good rapport with their writers if the payment of earnings would now be regularly complied with..
WritersBeware  
Apr 23, 2007 | #162
The people who claim to be "owners" and "respresentatives" have had Ukrainian accents and writing styles. Many different people here have documented this fact. Essaywriters.net may have formed an LLC in Virginia, whihc anyone on any continent can do, but the owners are nto physically located in the US. The owners didn't even sign their own LLC documents, from what I understand from Rat. They hired someone in the US to sign for them as a registered agent.
lex  2 | 31  
Apr 23, 2007 | #163
mmm.. they're good in conceptualizing business techniques..

whether these techniques are ethical or not, it's for us to judge.. but, by not paying earnings on time, that's bad business for the writers and for the company..

i have been paid already.. yet i have to wait for the may 1st and 15th of may ON TIME earnings payments to believe that they indeed have changed..
rat289  1 | 142  
Apr 23, 2007 | #164
The people who claim to be "owners" and "respresentatives" have had Ukrainian accents and writing styles. They hired someone in the US to sign for them as a registered agent.

Yes that is correct. A filling service was used by the parent company or a subsidiary. The search for the LLC I did was simply to locate the LLC that a member was saying didn't exist. However, there was no evidence or reason to doubt the ownership was overseas.

mmm.. they're good in conceptualizing business techniques..

Not really. You just need a lawyer if you live outside the country you wish to start a business in. The fact that there are forms for just that action would suggest it isn't as uncommon as you would think.
essayer  - | 118  
Apr 23, 2007 | #165
sorry rat, but it is simply incredible how a newbie writer would use and flaunt his/her "resources" and absence of "compunction" to bring down amy and would-be amy's in legalistic and highfalutin defense of essaywriters.net. you were so zealously anxious in your diatribe with amy and even gloated[/b] about your success in bringing her down so much so that such energy could only come from some deeper and much more beneficial form of association.

your aggressive loyalty could only come from being ........ paid!

ok, i'll give it to you that you are indeed employed as a new writer by my old company--full time as an infiltrator poster in this and perhaps, other forums.

as for your "facts," they are so loudly self-proclaimed as supposed "facts" that they're probably 'convoluted facts'.

on my part, i've been historically very fair to essaywriters. yes, "historically" because long before you appeared here, i made sure i admitted to all earnings i've received so as to deliberately balance my non-payment complaints. also, i even thanked the disguised presence of the company's liaison in this forum. kindly see one of my posts in the thread that was so unfortunately closed, in part through your campaign efforts, as follows:

[EssayWriters.net And Content Gurus: The Inside Truth
essayer
Reg: Dec 28, 06
Posts: 62
Profile

7:00pm Feb 7, 07 | Post #283

(in reply to esther's "Does everybody already receive his/her payments from essaywriters?")

thank you esther for asking that. being essaywriter's liaison here, your last posting only means that your company has decided to pay everyone.

i only wish management has vowed to make that a matter of policy. you see, regular and prompt payment is more efficient PR and makes for sound business management...]
workfromhomemom  - | 22  
Apr 23, 2007 | #166
ooh give nom_de_plume a chance..

There are hundreds of us who silently do our jobs with much content

a chance? you're a writer for essaywriters and you see the number of available orders posted there everyday. If they had hundreds of writers, how come the orders posted there don't get taken? One essayscam member who signed up recently, Smandy, said it herself that most of the orders don't get taken at all.

always keep in mind that there are hundreds of us who rally behind this company

nom_de_plume's post made it seem as though exchanges between her and other "content & loyal" writers take place regularly. she may know a few writers maybe, but i doubt she knows hundreds. note that essaywriters' messaging system allows writers to communicate with customers and support reps ONLY. we are also prohibited from disclosing our personal information to customers. so how in the world can she speak for other writers and tell that there are hundreds of them out there who will back up the company she claims is upright?

i appreciate essaywriters' efforts to improve their company and it's a good move to resolve issues with disgruntled writers like me LOL, but to have someone post something like nom_de_plume's is unbelievable. she would have had posters here believe she was just a writer for the company without the backed-up-by-hundreds kind of talk.
rat289  1 | 142  
Apr 23, 2007 | #167
Sorry essayer but you've got it wrong. I'm not a newbie writer; I'm new to this group and new to essaywriters.net. I have yet to take an assignment writing essay papers for them and I don't ever see myself doing so. At the time I made those posts it seemed important that I test the water and see if I get paid or put on. There's enough members here saying they've been paid to diminish the importance of seeing for myself.

your aggressive loyalty could only come from being ........ paid!

Again yet another thing you got wrong because you missed something in a previous post. Other than the work I do for law firms (fillings, articles, opinions, ect...) and local companies in my town (ads, fliers, how-to's, ect..) a large portion of my income comes from writing fiction. I stated this in an early post when my motives were questioned. I'll cover it one last time for you.

I'm at a point in a project where I'm about to move from one phase to another. That leaves me with a week or two of idle time. A friend told me about essaywriters.net and asked me to check it out which lead me to here. The simple fact that I have to repeat this information shows me that you are not reading what I post; you're only looking for words and phrases to make me look attached to that company... in other words, using deceitful practices in an effort to discredit me.

The aggressive loyalty you speak of isn't to essaywriters.net it is to truth and honesty. I'm sorry if you don't understand the concept of "going all the way or not going at all". A half-assed defense against misinformation would've been a waste of MY time and I don't like to waste my time. If I go on the attack I bring it all... just part of my character. Sorry that you can't get your mind around that notion.

The evidence I provided was just that... evidence, complete with a link and instructions. Of her four arguments one was an outright lie and the other three were distortions of the truth or wrongly defined actions, just to simplify this for you. I merely defined the false interpretation of the actions she was harping on. The evidence that I am right and she was wrong can be obtained by anyone with the most simple of research (looking up legal terms and such) The simple fact that you see more to it than that means that for a while she was successful in blowing enough smoke to cloud things which in turn lead to elongated posts by me.

The posts had to be long-winded because when you have someone twisting your words you have to make sure you cover it from every side, negating any chance of misinterpretation or misrepresentation - that's why legal contracts and laws are so wordy. Have you ever heard the term "loop-holes"? The fact that you're hung up on an old argument that was settled last week says you have an agenda. Plain and simple.

To bring your doubts to and this tiresome debate to a conclusion I'm going to say this:

I have nothing to hide. Even though I have taken no position with or against essaywriters I will still answer to your assertions that they are paying me for this. Message me. Message me and I will provide you with my user name and password there. I will also send you a list of all the public and private forums I am part of and have been part of for years and you will see the same user name. Some of these sites will also show you in my profile if another user name was logged in from my network. Long story short, I don't use alternative user names.

From the essaywriters account you'll have my phone number and email address. You can then look up my email address and see that the user name I used there is the same as my email address. An email address that you can verify I've had for over 5 years, as long as I've been on the internet. You can call me and I will be more than happy to send you whatever you can conceive of to prove my identity. If you want I will even fly you to where I live and you can spend a couple of weeks with me. Whatever you need man... just ask. I have nothing to hide and I'm not afraid of my identity and for sure, my work isn't what you're running around here saying it is. So go on, take the challenge and report back what you learn. What are you afraid of? That I'll learn something about you that you don't want anyone to know here? IF you take a pass on this then you haven't a leg to stand on in calling me a shill for essaywriters.net!
essayer  - | 118  
Apr 24, 2007 | #168
actually, it's more a case of educated disbelief.

I'm not a newbie writer; I'm new to this group and new to essaywriters.

this is exactly my point: why would a newbie writer--for a company he/she supposedly wants to "test" first-post all out in defense of said company? your penchant for the truth, plain and simple? hey, issues hurled here against essaywriters.net aren't a question of human rights, save mother nature or other humanistic principle. very few people would buy your professed motivation. sad to say, the suspicion on your intentions is further supported by your gloating over amy's ouster from this forum? or would you say that you're simply being who you are--proud in the face of victory?

sorry but i don't consider this point satisfactorily answered, much less settled. perhaps, it would never be.

as for your challenge, i have to turn it down because i fear being led to a trap. not that i have anything to hide but it's just that in the internet age, i've grown to be security conscious.

anyhow, despite my strong skepticism, i tell you that i respect your person and your presence here.
lex  2 | 31  
Apr 24, 2007 | #169
just an inquiry.. do you, writers who are plainly against essaywriters, still write for them as of the moments?

i think some of you still write for them..
rat289  1 | 142  
Apr 24, 2007 | #170
this is exactly my point: why would a newbie writer--for a company he/she supposedly wants to "test" first-post all out in defense of said company?

The largest problem I have with your actions is that you're convoluting the facts to service an opposing agenda. Why? You're framing this to look as if I've been cheerleading for that company, when I have done nothing to that could be remotely close to that. I heard (from Amy and others) this, that and this and after checking out this, that and this I discovered "this" was half-true, "that" was a misrepresentation and "this" was a lie. In more clear words, I looked into what was being alleged against them and told the group that I had found most of what they were being told by Amy unreliable, to be kind. You're continued efforts to pin me to this company are pointless. Why does it matter one way or the other? Does it take anything away from me or my statements? No. My statements are factual and are easily verified; the company isn't in violation of the law and there is a LLC on file. That simple. No matter how you frame me, you're not going to change that fact.

this is exactly my point: why would a newbie writer--for a company he/she supposedly wants to "test" first-post all out in defense of said company?

How many ways do I have to answer this question before you stop seeing 'because they paid me to come defend them'? How many different ways and times do I have to point out the fact that it was for a friend that motivated my investigation. A friend! How many times and different ways do I have to point out that I wasn't defending them, I was pointing out and proving what statements were true and what wasn't? How many times essayer? How long will you continue to keep twisting this into something it isn't?

If Amy hadn't turned this into a contest between her and me, my "defense" of the company wouldn't have been as boisterous as it has become. Had she simply said "oh, I must have been wrong, thanks for clearing it up" and moved on, I'd already be back doing what I do. But she didn't. She kept twisting and twisting and got meaner and meaner as she did so. Acting in such a manner as she did, and as you are, is suspicious. Your attempts to reinforce your opinion the way you are, and with as many different interpretations as you have presented, lends the appearance that you were instructed by your boss to shut me down and discredit me.

What are your motives? What's in it for you? I'm sorry but I don't buy the fact that you waited a little time before "forming" an opinion on the issue. You weren't looking into the issue for the reason you stated (forming an opinion). If you were truly looking into it, your position would be the same as mine which has been stated time and time again over the last couple of weeks. The truth about that company is littered between two different threads and it all says the same thing: essaywriters isn't a sham company as some members lead us to believe.

How can you ignore facts? How can you form such a misguided opinion? You can't. You seem to be an intelligent person. That means you are more than capable of dissecting evidence and interpreting it. Only a company shill would front the attack you're fronting now. You can no longer say they are a scam because the debate has been had and won by the side that opposes you, you're only remaining option is to discredit the source of the information but in the end you can't.

To me, shutting you up is a challenge, just as proving Amy wrong was to me. I love defending the underdog, and there is no doubt that on this forum that essaywriters was and still is the underdog. When the other side turns it into a contest, I really dig in. When my competitive nature kicks in... I'll keep arguing until I win or we agree to disagree and drop the subject. You and Amy both had chances to bow out and still save face, but you both refuse to take it.

WritersBeware dropped out. Why? Because she/he was wrong? Because she/he decided that it is a waste of time to argue with me? Who knows? All I can say for sure is that if he/she isn't Amy he/she isn't a shill for a company. Unlike the shills on this site he/she made her points then moved on. I have nothing against her/him (I wish WB would clear up gender at least, I hate typing he/she) just as I don't have anything against you or Amy. IF you want, I'll keep arguing with you. If you want I'll agree to disagree with you. It doesn't matter to me. Seriously essayer, I don't have a problem with you at all, if you see as if I do, you simply misunderstood me.

I am curious though... what sort of trap could you possibly be afraid of? Then again, I'll never understand the fear some people have of the web because I don't fear it... I refer to the meeting of new people and not the use it. The web isn't really no different than meeting someone in the real world except for one way; it gives the insecure (and I don't mean that in a bad way) the security to be outgoing. I've met a few people here and chat with them outside of this community. A couple of them keep warning me to be careful of certain members as if exposing my identity would bring an end to my world. I don't see it that way. What is the worst that can happen? Then again, I'm a hopeless optimist.
lex  2 | 31  
Apr 24, 2007 | #171
just dont mind them rat.. if their minds are closed to what you want them to hear, they wont believe you.. just be comfortable with the thought that you have made every effort to state your side.. the rest is up to them..

if they wont believe you.. fine.. arguing with them would just make the issue more complicated and longer..

just a suggestion.. wheeew! maybe tommorow they'll focus their attention on me because of this.. peace guys..
rat289  1 | 142  
Apr 24, 2007 | #172
Yeah, you better be careful lex... I picture them holding knee-jerk, closed door planning sessions this very second... the wagons are being circled. hehehehe
lex  2 | 31  
Apr 24, 2007 | #173
I picture them holding knee-jerk, closed door planning sessions this very second

hahaha.. again, peace..
nom_de_plume  - | 40  
Apr 24, 2007 | #174
How would you know that you hold the same sentiments as your "fellow writers"? How would you know that they too are "deeply saddened, etc." by the posts of individual writers here?

And how would you know that they hold the same sentiments as yours? I don't see the majority here except for a handful. I don't see public complaints of the majority except your litany.

Most writers at essaywriters don't know a thing about each other so how can you speak on their behalf -- the "hundreds" of other writers working for the company? I know a three or four others working there

the above is based on your experience-very limited experience.
You registered as member of Essayfraud on March 14, 2007 and stated in your message there that you started writing for essaywriters just last Feb. So tell me, where did you get such audacity to continue taking orders, getting paid and at the same time with your alleged continuous destruction of the business reputation and integrity of essaywriters in a period of almost 2 months.

Your post at essayfraud on essaywriters last March 15
"Yes, I agree. There are many freelance writers searching for writing-from-home jobs over the internet, me included. But now I realized that it's a waste of time and resource -- electricity and other utilities, plus the fact that we sacrifice the time to rest just to get a project done."

More than a month now from that time and despite your alleged reason that writing for essaywriters was a waste of time and resources, you continued to write, continued to receive compensation and continued 'talking behind the company's back'? You call that ethical and upright?

BUT A HUNDRED?! LOL Unless you're the employer...

so clearly, you admit that it is a hundred! Sorry I do not have the privilege of being the employer. If I did I would never have accepted you in the company's fold.

Would freelance writers actually go to the extent of asking essaywriters' admin to "weed out unhappy and disgruntled" writers of the company? I still don't think so. Like the opinions of others here,

Do not twist what was written by misquoting the statement
'weed out unhappy and disgruntled writers and for cause'reads different from what you misquoted and Yes, freelance writers actually go to the extent to complain to admin. The termination of accounts may have been also a way to protect the organization from 'rust' slowly creeping in.

You've seen these changes recently had it not been for the posts here, honey. I think that prior to most of the complaints posted here, essaywriters wasn't doing anything :-)

Remark based purely on your self serving speculations. Do not patronize yourself. You cannot make me believe that these changes were due to your complaints. If it had been, shouldn't essaywriters be indebted to you for your constructive (sic) comments and therefore retain you in its fold?

The people who claim to be "owners" and "respresentatives" have had Ukrainian accents and writing styles. Many different people here have documented this fact. essaywriters.net may have formed an LLC in Virginia, whihc anyone on any continent can do, but the owners are nto physically located in the US. The owners didn't even sign their own LLC documents, from what I understand from Rat. They hired someone in the US to sign for them as a registered agent.

Hearsay evidence-your alleged 'documented fact' did not emanate even from expert witness.
Brush up a little on the law, you are looking foolish.

you're a writer for essaywriters and you see the number of available orders posted there everyday. If they had hundreds of writers, how come the orders posted there don't get taken? One essayscam member who signed up recently, Smandy, said it herself that most of the orders don't get taken at all.

You destroy your own premise. hundreds of orders but have you monitored each and every single order of hundreds-everyday? Why volunteer another? Are you not a writer there who may have monitored this every single day, every single order so that from your own observations, you can draw your own inference? How many times have you logged on a particular day, how long, how long after you logged in again. Writers take orders at random. Your conclusion does not have a leg to stand on.

nom_de_plume's post made it seem as though exchanges between her and other "content & loyal" writers take place regularly. she may know a few writers maybe, but i doubt she knows hundreds.

How do you know when you have only stayed with essaywriters for about 2 months? Doubt all you can that seems to be one of the two functions of your brain. The other being, striking down ideas and experiences of others as fallacy simply because these fail to fit it in your right and left lobe of the brain.

appreciate essaywriters' efforts to improve their company and it's a good move to resolve issues with disgruntled writers like me LOL,

be careful, you might be accused of being paid by the company for saying something positive about it!

but to have someone post something like nom_de_plume's is unbelievable.

I do not give a hoot about what your prejudiced mind would think as unbelievable.

she would have had posters here believe she was just a writer for the company without the backed-up-by-hundreds kind of talk.

why should I prove anything to you? With your 2 month period of contractual employment and only 2, 3 or 4 writers you know there-quite limited experience. Why would I prove anything to you--when obviously matters can't get through that skull of yours. These people you know, are they your cohorts ? co-conspirators?

Are private messages here sent so that you can gang up on persons who hold different views from yours? sniff, sniffers Ah, you wouldn't know that, would you?

This is another message you posted at essayfraud for a fearful essaywriter writer.

essayfraud/forum/index.php?showtopic=275

"There are many calls for papers over the Internet and maybe you can check them out if interested. Try "a cup of comfort" website. they have calls for papers till december this year. if your paper is chosen, you get paid a certain amount plus get published. I suppose that is better than working for essaywriters.net where you are less likely to get paid for your efforts."

And you call the above ethical? Upright? Professionalism anyone? Such treachery. 'Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that have not wit enough to be honest.' You register as member, post a general complaint then wait in the dark for a prey and once you detect fear of not being paid by essaywriters, you recommend another site while you continue to take orders and receive compensation from essaywriters.

Essayer, were you the one complaining about my long message? You have the same right to post a message which may be equal in length or even longer than mine.

I have a lot of work to do than waste my time on bigotry.
This site is a real showcase for discovering who are the real professionals from the pseudos; superficial knowledge from wisdom, mere finishing a degree from being educated.

Writers Beware, you are a big disappointment!! You called French drama-nonsense? France is a wonderful country, have you been there?
'Ignorance is the curse of God,knowledge the wing wherewith we fly to heaven.'
Workfromhomemom, expand your experiences-there is a vast world outside, beyond the four corners of your home, the grocery, and the pharmacy. Expand your horizons--your posts are quite telling. . .

Here are some lollipops, do not fight over it.
I do not want to waste my precious professional time with kids here, a few. Sure, I am a legitimate writer and a whole lot more in terms of other learned professions and I do not fall under the category of some kids here. I do not write for a living that is why perhaps I do not understand why some people have to squeeze blood and life out of others for delays in compensation.
rat289  1 | 142  
Apr 24, 2007 | #175
Phew! That's a long post nom_de_plume, I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that. You make some good points here.
WritersBeware  
Apr 24, 2007 | #176
Nom_de_plume, you need to stop accusing people of things that you know are completely false. At no time did I belittle France or the French. I told you to take YOUR nonsense elsewhere. Unfortunately, you didn't heed my request.

You call essaywriters.net's Ukrainian background "hearsay"? The personal experiences of dozens or writers, in this forum alone, goes well beyond the level of "hearsay," my friend.

Yes, you do not write for a living or have anything at all to do with essaywriters.net, yet you somehow find the deep desire to spend hours researchign the Internet and other forums in hot pursuit of quoted material to use against every essaywriters.net detractor who has posted in this thread. Why--for your personal enrichment? "Beth" stated in this forum that he/she has been beggign writers to post positive comments here. I would not put it past essaywriters.net to PAY writers, like you, to take the time to do exactly what you are doing now.
rat289  1 | 142  
Apr 24, 2007 | #177
I would not put it past essaywriters.net to PAY writers, like you, to take the time to do exactly what you are doing now.

I'm just wondering... do you also leave room for the possibility that they don't?

Paste this into yahoo IM: :-/

hehehe
WritersBeware  
Apr 24, 2007 | #178
Almost anything's possible, I suppose, but I'd bet on my statements above any day of the week.
nom_de_plume  - | 40  
Apr 24, 2007 | #179
At no time did I belittle France or the French.

defensive stance, reminds me of someone. Reading comprehension. Nonsense? simply because you can't understand French drama.

I told you to take YOUR nonsense elsewhere. Unfortunately, you didn't heed my request.

and who are you to tell me what to do?! This is a public forum and any member can post his free thoughts.
Your argumentum ad bacculum does not work.

goes well beyond the level of "hearsay,"

Ignorantia! Research and read the law because to those knowledgeable your insistence calls for apathy.

my friend

sorry you terribly fall so short of what I define as friend.

you do not write for a living or have anything at all to do with essaywriters.net,

ah! reading comprehension brush up.

somehow find the deep desire to spend hours researchign the Internet and other forums in hot pursuit of quoted material to use against every essaywriters.net detractor who has posted in this thread.

One, how would you know my deep desire LOL!
Two, hours to spend ahhh! are you not the agent of the other forum. You have been posting links to that forum time and again.

Three, relativity--maybe with you you spend hours to research. Go and try to reasearch on hearsay.

against every essaywriters.net detractor

That is incriminating!! Four, you have tagged her as an essaywriter.net detractor. Calling on Essaywriters--there is your admission in plain view.
'against' Five, and thanks for doing it for me--the evidence of the post is incriminating against workfromhomemom.
Now, how would workfromhomemom feel -if she gets upset that means you lost a team member and if she welcomes the idea, then that establishes confederation--or maybe conspiracy?

personal enrichment

I don't need to be enriched, believe me LOL. And enriching to destroy my integrity--not my style contrary to some people here.

essaywriters.net to PAY writers, like you, to take the time to do exactly what you are doing now.

Essaywriters pay good writers to write essays but to post here I dont think so. I surely am not paid for opposing filthy insinuations like yours. Keep hiding behind your handle for safety from lawsuits. Such cowardice!sniff, sniffer.

You are so fixated on pay and money of people who say something true and good about the essay sites under attack here.
What is your interest here . . . you resurfaced after one's disappearance. Maybe continuing on the dastardly demolition job left? Again what is your interest?
I do not see typos in your post, please you are forgetting your intentional pattern.
No need to show your fangs. Try to send PM to your team now--call on them. I wont be here anymore to lecture you on comprehension, French etc. OR maybe the reason why you find it difficult to comprehend is the language I use??? Shall I write in French, Norsk, Italian, Spanish, German??

Do not address me in your posts--it really is not worth talking TO you. It stinks way out here.
Such a waste of my time.
Ciao!!
essayer  - | 118  
Apr 24, 2007 | #180
Stop Writing[Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:35:14 +0300
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To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Account termination
Dear xxxxxxx,

essaywriters.net has terminated your account with the company in accordance with the following paragraph of the company policy:

"To keep loyal to essaywriters.net, never compromise it by any means available and strictly adhere to all of the terms and conditions mentioned above and on the website. The violation of the above mentioned will result into immediate termination of employment with no right for remuneration and the account resumption."

You will receive all of your dues in next three days the latest, regardless the payroll date.

Best regards,

essaywriters.net HR Dept]

dear beth,

just to inform you that i'm still unpaid. i know it really pays to be very patient with essaywriters.net when it comes to payments. it's well over "three days latest" and i'm still waiting.

regards,

essayer (you know me)
WritersBeware  
Apr 24, 2007 | #181
You have been posting links to that forum time and again.

Oh boy. I must have been sleep typing because I do nto recall posting links to a forum.

I mean, look at the bitterness and hatred in yoru posts. That does not come from someone who is not directly attached to essaywriters.net.

Rat--do you smell what I smell?
rat289  1 | 142  
Apr 24, 2007 | #182
YEAH.... the g/f made meatloaf tonight!!!!! Like I said BW, it does seem fishy... but, I couldn't say for sure one way or the other.
essayer  - | 118  
Apr 24, 2007 | #183
hey workfromhomemom, have you noticed how true voices here are being muffled by loooooooong, nonsensical .................................. rubbish!
workfromhomemom  - | 22  
Apr 24, 2007 | #184
And how would you know that they hold the same sentiments as yours?

Go back to the post and read what I said. Did I suggest in any way that my observations, complaints, and sentiments were held by the majority? I did nothing like that BUT YOU DID in your post which made me react and provide you with that response. Notice that what I posted here were my own experiences with the company, I did not speak on behalf of other displeased writers. you ought to re-read your own post and note how you assumed that those so-called hundreds of writers maintain the same regard and position as you regarding essaywriters.

Most writers at essaywriters don't know a thing about each other so how can you speak on their behalf -- the "hundreds" of other writers working for the company?

and how would you know how much experience I really have? you took my remark out of context. it is true that freelance writers at essaywriters do not know each other because there is no way for freelancers to communicate with each other at essaywriters. freelancers may only know other freelancers unless they are friends who sign up for the same company.

What makes you think that I still take orders at essaywriters? HAVE YOU BEEN GIVEN AUTHORITY TO MONITOR DO THAT? lol. I'm waiting for my payments, honey. That is all, nothing more, nothing less. Just because I check my account at essaywriters from time to time does not necessarily mean that I am still taking orders for them. I check the payment schedules and any messages that may be left by support reps there. Aren't all account holders at essaywriters encouraged to check their accounts from time to time?

Continuous destruction of business reputation and integrity? What I posted here are comments, my personal views of how they run the business, and my experiences while writing for them. I even gave a few suggestions that may be useful for them to improve their company. You call that destructive of a company's reputation and integrity?

You call that ethical and upright?

okay admin, pardon me for repeating what i said earlier but just to make the pluma understand -- I NO LONGER WRITE FOR ESSAYWRITERS. I AM JUST WAITING FOR MY DUES.

you ought to prove this allegation. otherwise, you have no business accusing me of nonsense.

so clearly, you admit that it is a hundred!

I made no such admission plume. Read it again. lol.

'weed out unhappy and disgruntled writers and for cause' reads different from what you misquoted

ah yes, missed that. thank you for pointing that out. I welcome comments, corrections, criticisms,suggestions, etc. Of course, feel free to cancel my views. I believe keeping an open mind usually outweighs having a bigoted one.

You've seen these changes recently had it not been for the posts here, honey.

The above remark was based on a friend's and my own observations of the company. He signed up for them in 2006 and from then on observed how such a business worked. I was not patronizing myself neither did I state that the changes at essaywriters were made because of MY COMPLAINTS. You have a comprehension problem. Re-read the post a second or third time, maybe you'll understand the message of the post by then.

you're a writer for essaywriters and you see the number of available orders posted there everyday.

Believe whatever you want to believe. You see those pages yourself and you know exactly what I meant by the majority of orders not being taken. And excuse me for namedropping, I did not have the time to look for the thread she posted in and quote her.

And you're a champion only at slinging insults which seems to be the only function of your brain. Your reply to my remark only shows that you can't support your claim about the so-called hundreds of writers who're pleased with essaywriters' business strategy.

why don't you check out the website yourself and you may be interested too? At least when you write a piece for them, authorship is your own and you get published too. I don't see anything wrong with that post. You have very morbid thoughts.

By WB's use of the word "detractor" she probably meant "critic / reviewer" because you are clearly an essaywriters supporter and I no longer am. WritersBeware and I are simply posters here just like the others and we have no connection, relationship, or affiliation whatsoever with each other. Whatever you think of me are just theories in that neurotic brain of yours.
essayer  - | 118  
Apr 25, 2007 | #185
Yeah, you better be careful lex... I picture them holding knee-jerk, closed door planning sessions this very second... the wagons are being circled. hehehehe

you talking about yourself, that French sounding newbie with the amazingly very familiar legalistic verbiage and.......

how are you lex? you're so "lucky" you've been paid. and what's more, despite some identifiable and a few challenging posts, your account has not yet been terminated. :)
lex  2 | 31  
Apr 25, 2007 | #186
how are you lex? you're so "lucky" you've been paid. and what's more, despite some identifiable and a few challenging posts, your account has not yet been terminated. :)

lucky? naah.. dunno why.. i just try to get along with them.. sometimes.. im just trying to make a living under "harsh" conditions haha..

but i do brace for the eventuality that i'll be get kicked out.. i hope not.. let's see.. if they do, they'll see another nagasaki..
essayer  - | 118  
Apr 26, 2007 | #187
yeah, you really got me lex.

as for the "account termination," i'm not really complaining because i've actually stopped writing for them some 6 or so weeks ago. (onedrfl, i did stop writing for essaywriters december, came back after a month and a half, and then later decided that the anxiety over delayed payments is too much for my frail mind).

however, i do expect to be paid for the last 2 orders i did. the last one on "Eating Disorders" got me another Very Satisfied customer survey rating so I should really more than deserve my last payroll earnings.

i've got to post this. payment was indeed made through by essaywriters. i encountered some problem, however, through my own fault. the important thing is that payment was made.
WritersBeware  
Apr 26, 2007 | #188
What about the hundreds of writers who don't speak out like you?
essayer  - | 118  
Apr 26, 2007 | #189
i'm not sure but being writers of academic essays, they surely know how to research in the internet. one way or the other, most of them can chance upon this site ultimately. if essaywriters fail to pay them, at least they'll have some idea what to do.
esther  - | 11  
Oct 04, 2007 | #190
Essaywriters is a scammer. I used to defend this writing company but now no more. They are LIARS!!! They advertise on their website that the lowest compensation per page is $4 and up but shame on them because they only pay us $1 or $0.85 per page for regular basis and for urgent orders is only $3 (if they feel guilty, they may raise it to $4)... They stated that writers get as much as $16 but there is nothing truth with it. Yes, previously it happen but for these past months, they become lovers of money and never give what is due to their writers. The writers are the one who sacrifice so much and they should be compensated well. Their advertisements really attract freelance writers but don't be fooled with their scheme because the truth is, it is the opposite. There are many deductions and let me write it in a list.

1. They will deduct your earnings 50% to 75% if the client is not satisfied with your work. (It is okay if the customer rejects your work but the disgusting thing is when essaywriters deduct your earnings just because of that).

2. They will deduct your earnings even you will return taken orders early.

They, themselves, are the violators of their own rules. They don't have one word.
Fae77  1 | 17  
Oct 06, 2007 | #191
Essay writers currently owes me 400$. They will not pay me, going on 3 days now. They keep making up excuses.

Look, anyone who essay writers will not or has not paid or payment was more than 24 hours late we are going to sue them. Contact me at dustinzgirl at gmail dot com

First step is to get everyone together.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 08, 2007 | #192
I used to defend this writing company but now no more. They are LIARS!

I actually agree with esther on this one. >.< I've managed to still earn my keep due to some regulars but I must say that the pay for normal orders do suck in general during these times. >.<

Have you checked your order list, esther? I think dry season is... over. :D

Essay writers currently owes me 400$. They will not pay me, going on 3 days now. They keep making up excuses.

That's funny... they paid me. >.<
pious  - | 69  
Oct 08, 2007 | #193
The following tells the tale of 2 Esthers, an Essaywriters.net writer. More accurately, it tells the evolution of Esther from an apologist to an avowed denouncer of Essaywriters.net's "fraud" within a 9-month period.

Quoting: esther

esther Jan 4, 07, 02:56AM | Post #174
I've been working for the company (essaywriters) for almost a year now and am glad that they didn't fail in sending my money or withhold it.... Though some people say that essaywriters is a fraud but in some other ways, essaywriters has helped me in augmenting my income which is a great help for my family. =)

Jan 5, 07, 06:07PM | Post #184
Pineapple, you request again from the essaywriters and be open to them. I am sure they will listen to you.. =)

Feb 7, 07, 05:58AM | Post #282
Does everybody already receive his/her payments from essaywriters?

Oct 3, 07, 07:06PM Reply Quote | Post #2
Essaywriters.net has no heart!!!... They are LIARS!!! They advertise on net that their lowest compensation rate is $4/page and you will get more (like $16) if it is urgent but it is the other way around... They only post those rates to attract writers and that is CHEATING! They actually pay the writers $1 or $0.85/page for orders to be worked for 2 to 7 days and $2 or $4 utmost for urgent orders... So to all writers who want to apply in essaywriters.net, DON'T BELIEVE on their advertisements. They are liars and arrogant... Believe me, I was once their writer.

Oct 4, 07, 07:47PM Reply Quote | Post #224
Essaywriters is a scammer. I used to defend this writing company but now no more. They are LIARS!!! They advertise on their website that the lowest compensation per page is $4 and up but shame on them because they only pay us $1 or $0.85 per page for regular basis and for urgent orders is only $3 (if they feel guilty, they may raise it to $4)....
WritersBeware  
Oct 09, 2007 | #194
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onedrfl  - | 51  
Oct 11, 2007 | #195
They closed the thread where we went on and on and on about their practices. It's people that don't believe us and continue to work for them that keep them in business. They did pay me but it took so long and so much effort to get the money that it is not worth it.

They are frauds and if people read these forums and still work for them they deserve whatever they get or don't get.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 12, 2007 | #196
if people read these forums and still work for them they deserve whatever they get or don't get.

Amen to that. ^_^
pious  - | 69  
Oct 12, 2007 | #197
Are you saying that those cheated by essaywriters.net deserve the 'no payment" and grossly-lower-than-advertised minimum?

Of course, you are. You are probably gloating at how effective your propaganda posts have proved in neutralizing the legitimate fraud complaints made by authentic EW writers. Your EWwwww superiors must have given you a fat bonus for being a credibly-sounding poster plant. After all, you do deserve a pat in the back for your part in the conspiracy to trick writers into joining or staying with the EW pool of new author-victims.

Only those who take no part in the deception of presenting essaywriters.net as an honest, paying haven for writers can share the reproving view recently made by Onedrfl.
WritersBeware  
Oct 13, 2007 | #198
I would have to disagree that EW_writer has fooled anyone. I have given him so many beatdowns that he is now making laughable excuses as to why he does not address the EVIDENCE in my posts.
pious  - | 69  
Oct 13, 2007 | #199
That's part of the deception, WB. He detracts with other issues to evade the issues of fraud.
WritersBeware  
Oct 13, 2007 | #200
Yeah, you're right. He is a criminal, after all.




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