WritersBeware
Essay[]Bay, as the senior member here, I am tired of your company using this forum as a springboard to advertise your services. You people have at least two separate accounts here--"PeterParker" and "Essay[]Bay." Similar to how you shamelessly W--RE your services to news outlets and then brag about getting press coverage that other essay companies do NOT want, you are trying to transform this forum into your own, personal, company promotion. You have clearly crossed the line in terms of the NO ADVERTISING OR PROMOTION policy of this forum.
Do not reference your domain name or type any more company-specific information whatsoever. If you do, I shall do my best to get you banned here, and I will also undertake my own investigations of your company. Trust me when I tell you that you do NOT want me on your case and reporting what I find to the public.
Communicate with writers through your OWN communication system.
I got my essay through Essaybay a week ago and immediately asked for a rewrite as it didn't come close to addressing what I'd asked for. The writer advertises that they have an amendment time of 2 days but so far it's been a week - last I heard was a couple of days ago that the rewrite was 80% done.
From my initial observations I think that perhaps the verified writers are oversubscribed and taking on more work than they can handle; the stats on my writer says that they are working on 4 other projects and has 3 other bids in progress. My writer had asked for a few days extension before the deadline but I needed the work on time. Now the deadline is long gone and I still don't have anything that is close to being usable.
So far, I'm disappointed. I tried Essaybay after a regular essay company messed me about with deadlines and submitted the work very late (although in fairness the work that I eventually got was at least of a good standard). Essaybay doesn't seem any better even though I am dealing directly with the writer.
The 'amendment time' seems meaningless as I don't see any penalty for the writer if they don't stick to their claims. There is a dispute resolution facility on the site which you have to pay to use (they say this fee is refunded if successful) and the site says that all avenues to resolve the complaint have to be exhausted before using the service. Does that mean I have to wait indefinitely for a rewrite? What happens if the rewrite is unsatisfactory? I get the awful feeling I am going to be stuck in this loop for a while :-(
FAO WritersBeware.
We (Academic Answers Ltd) have never intentionally advertised our services on this website without being prompted first. We (like many other companies) use the views of the members of this site to improve our service, if this is something that upsets you then you're obviously not interested in improving the industry for writers and buyers alike, which is a serious shame.
Public relations is quickly overtaking advertising as the most effective form of marketing, ask anyone in business and they will tell you that this is true. It isn't the fact that other companies do not want press coverage, it's the fact that they cannot attain it.
Maybe your time would be better spent 'investigating' the fraudulent companies of this industry, but then you wouldn't want to go public with your findings would you? You might get attention... you wouldn't want to w*0re yourself out now, would you?
PeterParker
WritersBeware
Public relations is quickly overtaking advertising as the most effective form of marketing
Thank you for proving my point, genius. This forum is NOT the place for your "public relations" or "marketing." Make a forum on your own site!
You might get attention... you wouldn't want to w*0re yourself out now, would you?
Just like all of the other essay site representatives who have crossed me, you will soon find out that you probably shouldn't have been a smart*ss.
WritersBeware
OK, the first thing I noticed about your company's sites is that you try to "game" the search engines. You have placed chunks of text on your sites that are nothing more than keywords. In fact, you ADMIT such by introducing the keyword SPAM with "Keywords:." Sorry, but that's against Google's "Webmaster Guidelines."
I have already reported your sites for SPAMMING directly to Google, Yahoo, and MSN, and will continue to do so on a regular basis for ALL other types of violations that I see on your sites. This is the ONE and only time that you will know that I have reported you, so I highly suggest that you keep your whoring sites as clean as possible.
WritersBeware
If you have been wronged by "Academic Answers Limited" and feel that Barclay shouldn't be spending YOUR money on the Ferraris and lavish houses about which he BRAGS in British newspapers, you can file a formal complaint about "Academic Answers Limited." You can also file a lawsuit at very little expense. Here's how:
Although they work out of an office in The Ropewalk, Nottingham, their registered address is:
Academic Answers Ltd
Peak House,
Works Road,
Letchworth Garden City,
Hertfordshire
SG6 1GF
They're owned by Barclay and the office manager is Tony. This info is all on their website.
If you want to complain to trading standards, it will cost you nothing: consumerdirect.gov.uk
A claim in the small claims court will cost you about £50 and you can add this cost to your total claim.
If you want free legal advice about your rights you could always contact the Citizens Advice Bureau.
useful information cheers!
WritersBeware
No problem, missg.
Following is a screen capture of myclique an incredibly vulgar site that apparently INSULTS AMERICAN STUDENTS! The site goes as far as to suggest that American students are FAT, compared to British students!
Upon information and belief, Academic Answers Limited (Tony and/or Barclay) operates myclique.
QUESTION:
"Why do Barclay and/or Tony not insult American students on their ESSAY SITES?"
ANSWER:
Common sense suggests that openly insulting American students on their essay sites wouldn't make their American essay customers very happy.
classy! nice bunch of people.
I really love these pictures of Barclay:
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I bet Jennifer must be really proud of him :)
hahaha lmao
He's even got himself a wiki profile
profile is written by jennifer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Baby_Jenga
WritersBeware
Member "117," can you please post the link to the page that LINKS TO these sexually explicit images that you found? I want to verify that the pictures are definitely Barclay before I comment on the pictures.
There is a picture of Barclay from Barclay's own essay site:
well who wrote the wiki entry about barclay is also
who posted the explicit photos.
So with them I can set my price for essay or what?
I don't really want to see the sexually explicit pics of Barclay, but please post more pics of Jennifer/Pooky. She's a hottie.
Regarding the "Keywords" being spam, I don't see anything wrong with it. It falls more in line with tagging and web 2.0. Everyone from Flickr, Technorati, Digg, and even Google's Youtube has something similar.
I don't care about pictures, tagging, or fat people, I just want to receive an essay that bears some resemblance to what I ordered :-(
So with them I can set my price for essay or what?
Yes, you can specify your intended price.
@ Jennifer
Are those pics really yours? ;) Thanks for hearing me out. I think that setting an automatic deadline that activates if there are no pending disputes was what I had in mind.
I got a follow-up question. I currently have a client who accepted my bid already but who has not yet deposited money to escrow. Am I correct in my understanding that I'm not supposed to do any work until he pays? The number of days that I indicate in my bid are counted after payment is deposited to escrow and not after the bid is accepted, right?
@our mouthy "senior member"
Bugger off. ^__^
I don't care about pictures, tagging, or fat people, I just want to receive an essay that bears some resemblance to what I ordered :-(
Let me write it *shameless plug*. :D
Thanks, but as I'm already down £234.76 ($472.50) and twelve days after the deadline I have nothing usable and no indication of when this situation will be rectified, I'm not willing to throw good money after bad.
BoredWithThis,
Why don't you do a chargeback? If you have not received what you paid for - you can get your money back.
I have to do something as the situation is appalling. For £234.76 ($472.50) and 12 days after the deadline I have an essay that isn't what I asked for in terms of content and what there is isn't even properly referenced.
The writer has given up and says she's asking the administrator to give me a partial refund. I don't think I should have to pay a penny when the writers 'guarantees' (on quality and 2 day amendment time) have been worthless and I've just been messed around. I'm happy for them to plaster the essay all over the internet - it is completely unusable as far as I am concerned.
Thanks, but as I'm already down £234.76 ($472.50) and twelve days after the deadline I have nothing usable and no indication of when this situation will be rectified, I'm not willing to throw good money after bad.
Maybe next time then. :) I currently have 2 orders in essaybay but only one of them has sent money to escrow so far. I hope you get a full refund since the writer herself has acknowledged that she cannot complete the work (thereby somewhat proving the lack of quality of the previous work that she submitted to you).
I hope it works out for you as a writer. I like the concept well enough - it's just my experience hasn't been favourable but in fairness it is the only experience I have had with that writer or essaybay as a whole. With a different writer / different topic it could all be .... very different ;-)
^_^
Hi all,
Hi corvus and thanks for that :-)
EW_writer, yes, the pics on the forum here are me. And, as you said, don't start work until you see your escrow payment showing in the account area. If the customer says they've made it but it's not there, drop me a line and I'll double check there's no bug in the system.
BoredWithThis.. if you are who I think you are, then I think both the writer and EssayBay have now agreed to a full refund? Hoping this resolves things. I'm sorry you had a bad experience and I too hope it's isolated.
Just to deal with the personal comments on here (not quite sure if I should as they don't really relate to essay fraud but hey!) MyClique is not a site that we're promoting at the moment but actually, it doesn't insult American students - it insults American social networking sites. Everyone here is a big fan of the US - most of us are huge ice hockey fans and are crazy about the Buffalo Sabres. We've been shown some great hospitality in Buffalo and love our American friends.
At the time when myclique/student jam was created, there wasn't a lot of competition (the days before facebook opened its doors to developers and actually got pretty good). But we didn't promote it a great deal and it's a shelved project now. I don't think it even works properly - we certainly don't maintain it, but the pics of Barclay are on my profile because we used to date :-) It's interesting what one member said about Barclay's cars because he actually doesn't have them anymore - he decided they were a bit of a waste of money considering they spent a lot of time gathering dust in the garage, and that the money would be best spent elsewhere on the business. Checkout my facebook profile for photo confirmation of that (there's an album entitled 'the departure of the cars' - think you might have to add me to view it tho)!
And regarding Wikipedia, I did edit Barclay's entry a good while ago - I didn't write it originally but I thought it would be good to add in the press links as Barclay has been on the radio and TV talking about proper use of essay companies quite a lot - but I think since then our PR department have amended it since then so I'm not responsible! :-D
Feel free to fire anything else you like my way -- other than the upset customer which of course I don't want to see, this thread is pretty funny! :-)
BoredWithThis.. if you are who I think you are, then I think both the writer and EssayBay have now agreed to a full refund?
Hi :) Yes, I am who you think I am and I'm happy with the outcome. While the experience with the individual writer wasn't good I'm really pleased with the way that the site admin have dealt with the situation - it gives me confidence to try the site again.
I'm on facebook too if you want to add me ;-)
The folks over at Academic Answers seem like a very odd group of people! The website 'Student Jam' talks about 'F**k lectures etc. At the same time they are advertising themselves as a responsible academic essay writing company on other sites, how can these people actually be responsible?
There was something in a news article about the Boss going to talk at a plagiarism conference in the UK, maybe the pics of him that are posted all of student Jam should be sent to the conference in advance as a slide show, they may take his word more seriously then!, lol.
Sounds like the Boss; Barclay is at the centre of ridicule. Maybe his staff is envious at him having had a lot of money?
Suggestion put the picture of Barclay in the bath on the 'Meet our team' page of UKessays!
WritersBeware
MyClique.co.uk is not a site that we're promoting at the moment but actually, it doesn't insult American students - it insults American social networking sites.
That's a load of crap. The home page of MyClique.co.uk clearly suggests that American students are FAT! Here's the insulting quote about American students from the MyClique.co.uk home page (active at the time of this posting on March 14, 2008):
Is that the best those Yanks can do? . . . Worse still, you good Brit students have been letting them get away with it - until now! We knew that you - the wacky and wonderful (and often thinner) students of this fine land - needed more - lots more!Jennifer, either
ADMIT that you are lying and that Barclay DID insult Americans (of which I am proudly one), or I will tear you to shreds with evidence and commentary in this forum and elsewhere. I don't like liars.
Also, Jennifer, since you did not deny that it is Barclay in the bathtub pictures, can you please explain why Barclay, owner of UKEssays.com and Academic Answers Ltd, openly shows his
TESTICLES and an apparent
ERECTION on MyClique.co.uk, his site that is directed and potentially attractive to a largely underage audience? I find that disgusting, and potentially illegal, considering that he is in 100% control of the content of the site, including the sexually explicit photos that he/you posted.
The website 'Student Jam' talks about 'F**k lectures etc. At the same time they are advertising themselves as a responsible academic essay writing company on other sites
In America, that is called "playing on both sides of the fence."
lmao!! WritersBeware, I think you have issues!!! You do make me laugh though, I should thank you for that.
Barclay isn't showing anything in those pictures that were linked on here, it is bath foam!! I don't know if there are other pics on there which are explicit - I don't think there are - I can't get the site to work properly for me to check it out. I can't imagine that I would have posted any. But certainly, the ones linked from this forum, are actually Barclay messing around in the bath with a whole lot of bath foam. If the photograph really depicts an 'erection' and thus, his 'equipment' was as big as the bath foam suggests, I really think he'd be famous for something other than owning an essay company, don't you? ;-)
In answer to your question 'why are these photos of the owner of a company on the net' - well, it's a social networking site, and believe it or not we people have lives outside of our companies - so yes we do like to have a bit of fun now and then, as the photos suggest. I'm sorry if you find a grown man fooling around in a bath of foam to be so terribly offensive and feel that in some way it makes him incapable of looking after his business, but if that really is the case, then I wonder if it is Barclay who has problems for having a bit of fun, or you who has the problem for objecting to it. What do you think?
Regarding the MyClique intro, the first insult regarding myclique that was quoted on here was indeed about American social networking sites, not Americans in general. This is what I was commenting on specifically. But regardless of your threats to 'tear me to shreds' if I don't "own up to lying", which I find intensely amusing, you seem to forget it's a public site - everyone can visit it and make their own mind up so lying/not lying is not an issue. As to the comment about British students often being a little thinner than the Americans - well, perhaps that particular line is a little insulting although unfortunately, statistically true. Although I read that we're catching up, if it's any consolation! It hardly makes us haters of the Americans - as I said, we have some great American friends (not to mention American writers and customers) and we love all of them. So you, personally, can take the myclique introduction to mean whatever you want it to mean - we all know what it means, we know how we feel about our American friends/customers/writers, and what you think makes no difference.
Regarding my clique/student jam's message about lectures, this was a separate project, quite aside from our essay business - it was thought of, managed, developed and controlled by a separate team of people. It really had nothing to do with our present business other than the source of funding. So the policies, slogans, concepts etc are really quite aside from what we do nowadays. And as I said, we never actually launched it although I have noticed we still have some old links to this on our websites and I will inform our programmers that these perhaps ought to be removed.
Perhaps I am being a bit of a 'newbie' here but I was under the impression that this forum was to share experiences about essay sites and to warn other users about fraudulent companies. Whilst I am amused about someone getting insulted about bath foam, I can't help but thinking this is just entirely irrelevant to the website we're on. Maybe we should confine the discussion to fraudulent websites, bad customer experiences etc, and not the private life of our directors? :)
Regards
Jennifer
WritersBeware
lmao!! WritersBeware, I think you have issues!!! You do make me laugh though, I should thank you for that.
We'll see how long your laughs last . . . .
Since you claim that only bath foam is visible, I will now post the pictures, which I chose NOT to do previously because I had given YOU the benefit of the doubt.
WARNING: Minors should not click on this photo!gallerpn8.jpg - Barclay
Parts of Barclay's testicles are clearly visible in this photo that he posted on his site that targets a largely UNDERAGE audience. Jennifer, I'll let the proper authorities in the UK decide if the photo is "funny" or if it violates any British laws due to a grown man exposing his genitals to minors on a site that has no warnings about adult content.
Since Barclay goes out of his way to be such a public figure, his public acts are fair game to public criticism and scrutiny. The photos would make interesting additions to Barclay's Wikipedia page, but I'll leave the actual posting to someone else.
but I'll leave the actual posting to someone else.
Hahaha.. you mean you won't dare risk getting your account in wiki suspended if you tried. :)
Why the crap are we talking about testicles? O.o [in old schoolmaster's voice] WritersBeware, I must say that this is very unprofessional of you, sharing your fixations with the male reproductive organ with us here... if you must relish those pictures that you keep on posting, please.... relish them in private. :D
lmao!! WritersBeware, I think you have issues!!!
Thank you for pointing that out. I've been trying to get her to see a shrink but I guess writing junk on sites to discredit competitive essaywriting agencies just doesn't pay enough money for the typical hourly rate. :D
WritersBeware
EW_writer and EssayBay--the perfect allies!
The funny thing is, I'd actually managed to remove these pics (since they had been linked from this forum and on the off-chance they did actually cause some weak-minded person offence) with great difficulty as the old site has some major programming bugs, before I replied to the last post. So WritersBeware is now the one spreading apparently "explicit" material. Tut tut!! Hey, WB, I'm pretty certain that what you're referring to is his hand (I'm assuming we've now accepted he doesn't really have a huge piece of equipment covered in foam).
I really have to stop talking about this now, I'm starting to sound like I too have a fixation, hehehehe! :-)
that targets a largely UNDERAGE audience
Just picked up on this - it's besides the point since the material is not offensive but FYI, actually, it doesn't target a largely underage audience - the word 'students' in the UK is generally used to refer to university students which I believe is the target group for this website. Hence the intro comments about 'lectures' (which again in the UK, would normally refer to uni lectures). Uni students are not 'underage'.
You guys are so funny! It's like watching a sitcom on television. EW_writer,your antics are top notch!Keep writing and I'll keep laughing. Heh Heh
WritersBeware
weak-minded person offence
Big mistake. I am in the process of filing formal complaints about your site with every applicable agency in the UK. My argument is quite convincing. Again, we'll see who's laughing when all is said and done.
I don't see anything in those two pictures that any UK agency would be remotely interested in. Funny thread though :)
WritersBeware
BoredWithThis, you're incorrect. Tell me--would you be "OK" with your 13-year-old daughter viewing these "funny" pictures? You may not realize the potential harm in those pictures appearing on that particular type of site but, rest assured, certain agencies in the UK take it quite seriously. I've already confirmed that over the phone.
1. Minors (it is an indisputable fact that a large percentage of social network users are minors, despite what Jennifer claims)
2. Grown man--and owner of site--posting sexually suggestive, largely nude pictures of HIMSELF, one of which clearly shows parts of his testicles (notwithstanding Jennifer's ridiculous claim that the wrinkled, pink skin is his HAND--nice try)
3. No warning of sexual or otherwise adult content
4. (provided only to the UK agencies)
5. (provided only to the UK agencies)
6. (provided only to the UK agencies)
I dont know which agencies you have supposedly spoken to but as a member of the police force and having dealt with internet pr0n cases I can tell you that the police would not be remotely interested in these images. They are not pr0nographic in any way shape or form. If the image had shown him in the bath with a child they would most certainly have been interested but it is an accepted fact that those who use the internet often frequent adult pr0n sites etc. Whilst ISP providers give account holders the opportunity to ban certain sites so that their children do not get to view such material many parents do not exercise such control and therefore the children can be subjected to all kinds of objectionable material. It is impossible to police such activity and so therefore legislation concentrates on banning child pr0nography ie images containing children, or grossly offensive material ie depictions of violence or sado masochistic activities.
The image you are harping on about is just a man in a bath, Admittedly there is an innuendo that the bubbles could be hiding something but it is clearly meant as a FUN shot and is unlikely to cause anyone ALARM or DISTRESS which are the required elements for an image to attract police attention.
The police powers in respect of such images is limited to obscene publications as defined by the Obscene Publications Act 1959. Obscene is defined in the Act as
Obscene Publications Act 1959
The aim of the image is not to DEPRAVE or CORRUPT and would therefore be of no interest to the police authorities.
In my time working for the police in this area I have seen images that would make you physically sick such is the depravity. I told my Inspector to check out the images you suggested where offensive and he just laughed and said that if we were to pursue every person who submitted an image of themselves in the bath in a suggestive pose we would never have any time to stop the REAL offenders.
I would be interested to know who Writersbeware has supposedly spoken to who is SO interested in these images as I specifically work alongside the Internet Watch Foundation in my role with the police and can assert with authority that no one has attempted to contact the foundation alleging the images are obscene etc.
WritersBeware
You have clearly overlooked the combined importance of Numbers 1-3, and you'd be surprised just how many parents disagree with your overall assessment.
I agree that agencies do not actively pursue people who post pictures at that fairly low level of obscenity. HOWEVER, when a given agency receives a petition signed by hundreds of angry parents whose children are exposed to even slightly obscene pictures on a social networking site that does NOT have a proper disclaimer, the agency takes notice.
These are not even SLIGHTLY obscene, believe me I deal with obscene material every day of my working life.
My inspector is directly responsible for preparing charges for obscene material and presenting it to the CPS for charging advice. There is no way that there is any realistic prospect of a prosecution under any obscenity laws in the UK and my Inspector has said categorically that he would not even consider approaching the CPS as he knows full well that they would never advise a charge on such an image.
As pointed out by another poster on here the site is designed for university students which makes them an adult audience. The fact that others can access the site is immaterial as children can access adult pr0n sites if they lie about the date of birth etc. It is the responsibility of the parents to ensure that they check the sites their children are accessing and to take steps to prevent this. If they choose to allow their children to browse the net without any parental control there is very little that can be done to stop them accessing illegal sites.
The IWF mentioned above is in the process of clamping down on child pr0nography sites and hardcore adult pr0n sites as these are far more damaging then a picture of a man in the bath. Frankly you are wasting your time getting a petition organised etc especially given that the images have now been deleted. Even if they were still on there the law does not legislate for this kind of material and would not impose any penalty on the website unless the images were grossly obscene. Even then most sites with grossly obscene material are still in operation as it is impossible to legislate against websites in this manner as a lot of the pr0n sites originate from America, Germany, Holland and Portugal and are not governed by UK legislation so cannot be prevented from publishing by UK authorities.
The IWF is attempting to organise worldwide collaberation so that each country will take action to close down such sites that originate from their country, however, given the high demand from adult surfers of the net for such material it is unlikely that a complete clampdown will ever be achieved.
Don't think Beware has contacted any one. It is just idle talk and waste of forum space. Almost impossible to pick up a thread without some fight or other over some trivial issue.
Thanks for the information.