Generally, what is agreed upon is the fact that academic writing is in the grey area when discussing the ethical angle of the work. It would depend on the writer providing the service how they wish to perceive the work that they do. Personally, my exposure to numerous clients who simply struggle with balancing work and school made me believe that the educational system was structured in an unfair manner. The unnecessary workload for certain programs can definitely lead others to believe that the work that they put out is nothing compared to the actual degree. I have had clients who were studying tech courses, however they were mandated to take up an extra course in the humanities. In this instance, then I definitely side with the idea of academic writing, especially because you are looking at things from the perspective of the clients themselves. The major difference of academic writing sites from regular writing services is that the intent and purpose of the work is a calculated response to a circumstance. Still, in that regard, it is up to the client to decide whether or not these issues are relevant.

It is becoming increasingly common for writers to ask for payments upfront. This is not unusual. Even outside of academic writing, writers almost always ask for payments upfront. Clients need to be protected, but writers (and companies) also have to be protected. Scamming can go both ways. The only genuine way to ensure that both sides of the court are getting the most out of the situation is if they are able to come up with a compromised terms and conditions that will not sacrifice any of their freedom to decide. Always, always, always read the terms of use of the sites that you order from. If nothing works, threatening to sue is a drastic measure that is noticeably taken by money (enacted by few). I have always asked for upfront payments when I'm dealing with newer clients. In return, the clients should be able to trust that I provide the services that I say that I do - for this is the only way that they will be able to have a healthy relationship with the company.

This is an extremely important angle to discuss. Considering that professors do not necessarily know each student to the smallest of details, differences in the manner of writing do not really matter that much. Not unless, of course, you are sub-par student who has been known to be such but has provided the professor with a pristine paper. Generally, however, students can get away with submitting custom papers, especially because passing the plagiarism test with due consideration of the instructions are both the only things necessary for the paper itself. That being said, it is still critical for students to be cautious of which providers they are getting their essays from. Model essays, I would say, would have more fluidity just because it gives way for the student to feel competent and useful in the process of writing and submitting.

All of the presented arguments here are the precise reason as to why I advocate that clients should learn to research thoroughly prior to availing of these services. If you can truly look up which companies are reliable and which are not, you will be able to have a better and more positive approach towards writing, especially because you will not worry as much whether or not you have gotten an efficient and communicative writer. If you can omit this possibility, then you are setting yourself up for success. Being unable to trust the company that you work for is certainly a sign that you should not be ordering from them. For clients, knowing a company thoroughly removes the annoyance of not knowing whether or not the paper is truly authentic.

This has gradually turned into a personal pet peeve of mine. Never will I ever work for companies who insist that they are the ones to fully check the essay. One of the better companies that I work for now has been consistent about the idea that, for as long as the clients are happy, there's no reason to penalize the writers. I have been way happier and well-rewarded in this setting, considering that I can communicate directly with my clients should they need anything else from myself. My clients are happy with what I produce, and that should be the only thing that matters. Writing companies, while they certainly serve as mediators, should not take advantage of writers merely because they can, you know?

I feel as though this is the sad reality of academic writing that is often overlooked by others. Because some writers become fully reliant on a single company, hoping that they would somehow help them develop their careers, they would often be chained into believing that they can offset the penalties by working harder in the next period. It can only take so much until a writer begins to fully realize that their academic writing career path isn't going anywhere because they keep getting bombarded with relentless amount of people trying to find ways to strip them off their hard-earned money. Still, for what it is worth, advancing as a premium writer can at least give a writer an idea of his capacity in the field (that it is, in fact, possible to be more straightforward with the demands).

I wish that more companies would implement this type of mindset when it comes to dealing with refunds from customers. Oftentimes, companies tend to be forgetful of the amount of effort and prior research that writers have given to the orders that they had already taken. Having said so, it is only fair to say that clients should be able to cancel for as long as the reasons that they put out are legitimate. Writers, on the other hand, should be respected for the amount of effort that they've given to an assigned work.

Agreed. In the very beginning of my academic writing path, I was quite skeptical when I began to realize that a lot of the companies held onto different domain sites that offer the same services. I soon realized that it wasn't necessarily a bad thing. It was merely just the companies attempting to expand their client reach through maximizing their total coverage in the field. It isn't necessarily a red flag, especially if the company is a legitimate one.

Read through terms and conditions prior to signing with any writing company. Just like work and employment contracts in regular desk jobs, it is imperative that you are fully aware of what comes with the work that you are planning to enter. Of course, this shouldn't even be a discussion as it is quite common sense (at least from my point of view).

Furthermore, I do not think that penalties are necessarily bad. However, you have to be cautious of the extent of these penalties. As an academic writer, I have worked with companies that I believe had unfair penalties. For instance, I remember that I had a paper marked as poor quality. They decided to not pay me at all for the work that I have provided. Because this was a ten-page paper, I was infuriated to say the least. When I asked for a detailed feedback on the essay I had written, they simply did not give any reason. I left that company a few days after, realizing that there has to be something better waiting for me.

Not even two weeks after, I passed a screening test for another company. I have now been working with them for a year. They have never done such a thing to me. When editors gave me feedback on my writing, they were detailed as to what I needed to improve on. They explained things thoroughly. Never had they ever taken 100% of my pay from a single project. The most penalty I had gotten was a few dollars from something that I knew was my mistake. I definitely believe that these are the type of companies that writers should be looking for.

Remember that you are still a freelancer for them, that you deserve to be treated humanely. Working for 12 hours straight on a single project only to have the pay stripped from you is definitely a red flag that writers should be cautious of. Penalties are alright for as long as they are not aimed towards taking advantage of new writers.

I have found that the sweet spot for myself is to maintain relationships with one to two different companies alongside working on my own gigs that are unrelated to academic writing. Before, I used to be one of those writers who would be enrolled to three to five different sites. While the companies typically did not care about it, I can say for sure that you are sacrificing dedication to some of them. Once I have cut down the companies I work for to two, I have noticed a significant improvement in my relationship with both the clients and the companies. A company had even decided to give me a raise as a writer, especially because I had been rigorously churning papers for hours and hours daily without fail. While I think that it is smart to have multiple companies at the same time, I do not think that this is the only method to retain relationships with clients. Surely, the more you sustain your relationship with your clients, the better it can be for the longevity of your career.

However, this can be just the case for myself. I certainly would hate to have to start all over again just because I have mismanaged by relationships with clients and companies. Being more forward with your limitations as a writer can definitely go a long way.

I have worked with companies before that severely underpaid me. It definitely did affect the output of my work, especially because I was so discouraged from even trying when I wasn't earning enough to justify the amount of time that I work for them. Now, I have been working with two different companies who give out fair wages and are always considerate when it comes to time zone differences and other circumstances that can come into play. I can say for sure that this has made me want to stay in the industry longer.

Knowing that I work for people who are not merely around to take advantage of writers definitely gives me motivation to work harder for them.

Agreed with others in this thread. I do not think that a writer ever has to be mad about clients trying to submit these documents as their own. After all, this is the very purpose of the work itself - to provide clients with academic researches to alleviate them of the hassle of writing it on their own. I found it odd that I had clients before who asked me multiple times if they were permitted to submit the files. After much reassurance, I still needed to explain to them why it is alright. While the ethical angle of it is debatable, this portion shouldn't even be made into a conversation in the first place.

One of the initial mistakes that I made when I first started as an academic writer was the fact that I was persistently trying to overly research certain projects. In hindsight, this definitely hindered me from developing a larger clientele early on in my career. Now, looking back, I can ascertain that I definitely needed to be smarter when it came to researching content for clients. I have realized that basic researches definitely suffice in creating a holistic paper that will satiate the client. Learning through personal experiences definitely pay off in this path.

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I agree with this. I do feel as though certain clients have to learn how to accommodate to writers who take up these huge writing projects within a shorter time frame (rush orders). I have experienced having a client who had bombarded me with messages because he was disappointed with the output. He had demanded a refund despite of the fact that we already had an agreement beforehand about the conditions of the payment. Because he had given the order to me in a short time frame, being able to revise before turning in the project was a huge feat that I had to tackle. It was a loss-and-loss situation regardless.

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Agreed. I often wonder why some clients do not conduct research and assess the competencies of the sites before they put their money into it. This is not to say, of course, that it is entirely their fault. But, like any other industry, there are numerous scam-like websites that plague this industry, meaning clients should ascertain that they are being wise with their decision-making beforehand. Furthermore, clients should learn to ask writers as though they are in the interview process for a job opportunity. After all, it is a job; writers should be challenged if they know what they are doing, especially if it is a new business/professional.

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This reminds me of when I had client before who revised my writing for the purpose that he thought he knew better. A week later, he came complaining because he did not receive his desirable grade. I feel as though clients should have a more realistic set of expectations when they are dealing with writers. Writers are able to provide not only the expertise but even writing samples for clients to decide thoroughly if they are planning to trust that individual with their grades. At the end of the day, there are factors outside of the working space of the writer that can affect the grading process of the paper itself. Having to blame the writer, especially when they've touched the paper as well, is just seemingly obscure and should not be tolerated.

To an extent, I do feel as though going back to school can be justifiable for certain writers. I recognize that some academic writers do not see the career as a sustainable one, considering that others may consider it to be a passing-by job. I have personally known a few other academic writers who had gone back to school for the purpose of advancing their studies, hoping that they would be able to lift their job opportunities should they want to have a career outside of this one. While I agree that everyone, especially with the advent of the internet, has the capacity to research about knowledge that would have been unreachable before, there are still instances wherein having a more advanced degree is a paperwork that is necessary to move forward career-wise.

I remember having a client who had responded the same way. It had been a month since I delivered the essay he asked for. I suddenly received a message from him, asking to revise a small portion of the text and add at least half a page into the introduction. Oftentimes, I contemplate on whether or not there is a discreet purpose when these things happen. I was frustrated to say the least. It also did not help that the client demanded that I produce the output within a day. I feel as though some clients have to recognize that writers do not just jump out of nowhere and produce content. While I agree that writers have responsibility (to an extent), they should not be given unreasonable expectations.

This is perhaps why clarity is critical when you're ordering academic essays from writers. Bear in mind that writers do the essays within their own grounding. This means that, without guidance, academic writers would do what they perceive is the best method for the maximum output for the student. That being said, academic writing is not limited to merely referencing repetitively. In fact, I've encountered professors who do not believe that essays are to be cited (although this varies definitely per subject). The reason for this is that critical thinking that is often required in these essays push you to think beyond the superficial consumption of the essays themselves. It is important that the essays have concrete grounding but still be capable of showcasing the thoughts of the writers themselves.

I'm actually fascinated with this conversation. Oftentimes, when we look at academic writing as a professional career path, we tend to forget that there are numerous great things that come with it. Like what was previously aforementioned, this career has definitely forced me to enjoy learning about various subjects. There's a sense of it being rewarding because you're being financially compensated to learn all of these new concepts. At one point, it has made me knowledgeable about certain subjects (for instance, nursing and medical courses) that I never thought I'd ever be able to learn from. Because of this reason alone, I think I've grown to be generally a lot more curious about varied careers that other people undergo. It has also made me somehow more flexible in engaging conversations with other people. I don't necessarily think that it would stop me from taking up higher studies as I would feel more capable than others, but there is surely something rewarding about the career itself.

I still ponder on how these referrals truly work. Oftentimes, clients are afraid of being found out that they are utilizing these sites because of how closeted the industry is. If people referred you as an academic writer, it already proclaims that they've availed of the services. This can be a sticky situation for most people.

I don't think I ever mentioned on the forum that I'm a clear-cut writer. I do make mistakes. I am well-aware that this is because it's my second language. What I was mentioning is that I am well-aware that there are ESL writers who can certainly exceed the standards that are typically expected of them. This can be inclusive of people who have studied overseas, published in reputable academic journals, or have worked for academic writing platforms. Regardless, these people do exist. To immediately reject that as an argument would be close to shameful, especially in due respect for others who definitely are capable.

I referred to it as "bold" because it somehow appeared to me as though there would be consistent work even during slower months. The main issue that I have found with academic writing is that, not unless you practically own the site or have repeat clients who go to school even during off-school season, finding work in particular periods is a dragging activity.

I had recently stumbled upon a Facebook page that had an entire bidding process for the buying and selling of academic writing accounts. I didn't realize that it was truly a thing until I saw it. It could tell why previous sites I had worked for were beginning to release notices to people regarding selling or buying accounts. I wonder how lucrative of an underground industry it still is nowadays, though. This is taking into account that certain payment options have even been slowly blocking out academic writing sites.

I'd like to argue otherwise. Even if a writer's native language is English, it would not be tantamount to being a successful academic writer. The requirements are a little bit more different than that. In fact, I'd go as far as saying that there are non-native speakers who certainly can exceed expectations because they are a lot more cautious with the work that they put out. This certainly makes a huge difference.

I've found this to be certainly true. When a writer is well-paid, he would often be a lot more motivated to work. It is also quite an indicator of the location of where the writer works in. If the writer comes from an English-speaking country, the likelihood is that they're often more used to writing at ease in comparison to ESL writers. This makes the writing process a lot smoother and easier. When the quoted price is able to match his standards, then there's a generalized assumption that the quality of output would be tantamount to the writer's overall work progress.

Maybe it could be indicated that my lack of experience in the field would be a reason why I struggle (at times) in fulfilling small requirements within shorter periods of time. I do wonder, though, how the process works out perfectly for efficient writers who are able to produce 20 pages per day. At the moment, I often max at 10 pages per day. Going beyond this would be a dreadful and mind-hurting process already.

This is quite saddening for the clients themselves. I know that there's a lot of controversy surrounding how students use these sites their own benefit; however, misleading the students into thinking that they are getting sufficiently decent work for them to at least pass their subjects is a disgusting appeal that has to be stopped. Not only is the site difficult to the writers themselves, but they are even more so tragic for the students themselves. It seems as though the only people who benefit from these services are the owners and editors of the company itself.

I'm curious to see if there truly are reliable writing sites that can accommodate to this. As far as I have observed over the past two years, essay writing sites are often limited to humanities, legal, and other related fields wherein not much technical work is required (ie. focused primarily on actual writing). If there are sites that can accomplish CS tasks, I would be astounded with how much rates they are promoting themselves with. Because these are more stringent and time-consuming activities, certainly the measures should be stricter in their accomplishment of the tasks that are being promoted.

I feel as though people who avail of academic writing or editing services should have more realistic expectations from their writers. Writers cannot - even if they tried - write specifically the way that they want to. If a client has demands that are out of the range and capacity of the writer, then the client and the writer should learn to compromise. Should the client demand that literally everything should be their way, it would be dragging the writer to the edge.

I agree with this. There's a lot of essay writing companies that are primarily targeted towards making it seem as though they are legitimate sites. There are other essay writing sites that hide their writers under seemingly more Western names as they believe that this could be the only way for customers to trust their services. Despite the fact that I do not necessarily agree that you can automatically equate ESL to less palatable output, I do think that writing services should (at the very least) be more honest with how they are advertising their services, especially because they will just keep jumping from one branding to another in hopes that they fool people repeatedly and earn fast money.

I think the issue is that perfecting a person's English skills is seemingly perceived to be a grandeur act in a lot of developing and underdeveloped countries. There's an odd correlation between having a chance to be successful and knowing English from top to bottom. This is perhaps the reason why there are numerous programs nowadays in non-English countries that offer the entire courses in English. The premier value of being able to actively learn the language while pursuing a program has become effectively sought after throughout the years.

I think that it's critical to view perspectives when discussing this concern. It truly is a cyclical concern that seemingly appears to be never-ending. You have clients who seek low-cost work. Little do they know that the people behind sites that are low-cost barely treat their writers well because of how cheaply they are being brought into work. There's hardly any value brought into the life of the writer aside from the monetary benefits (that also dwindle throughout time). It's essential to not be wrapped around these things to create a more solidified environment for both writers and consumers/students. Then again, I could also just be naive about the situation.

What's most dreadful is the cycle of having both customers and writers who alternatively scam each other due to desperation in the field. There have also been instances wherein writers have been made to accomplish tasks that were placed into a reserved account. After they had completed the project, the client disappears out of nowhere without dispersing payment. These types of acts to exist. And the best way for clients and writers to defend themselves is by ensuring that they double check all of the details and reservations followed by contracts that they get into.

This is quite a bold statement still. During the slowest periods, freelance writers can even have a tendency to get nearly zero orders. This goes especially for academic writers. I find that diversifying one's portfolio would definitely help in writing more efficiently because you'll be able to fill in empty days with other writing tasks. Being diverse is more critical as this also leads to having a larger clientele.

There's really no blanket advice that anyone on this forum can give you in order to assist you in setting up your own agency. I would only recommend that you research prior if this is truly the industry that you wish to take a part of. Because of the influx of scam-based companies that have infiltrated this platform, I would heavily recommend that you dive into how you can legitimize and set yourself apart. Aside from this, have you already built an audience that would assist you for your first orders? If not yet, I suggest doing so immediately.

People have to bear this in mind if they ought to stay in the industry. Academic writing, although dubbed as freelance, is to be taken seriously because of its nature as a job. It is not something you can simply throw yourself into because you had decent grades in high school and college. You need to take it seriously at one point or another. Furthermore, people should ensure that they have consistent training to keep up with competitors in the field. This, of course, involves a lot of writing exercises and research practices to assure customers that you're going to provide them with quality services.

This is a great way to go about the business because it nurtures trust between the students and the writers of a platform. While I do seek to do this, I personally am unaware of some writers in other platforms I work for because of either how new I am or my lack of knowledge of who participates in the company. I do think it would be a good attitude to retain to ensure that students do not get thrown into a writer who will not suffice their needs.

Researches can be conducted in multiple occasions and platforms, depending truly on the needs of a writer at the end of the day. Because there are a lot of open source journals now, it makes it easier for writers to be able to curate long-form content without necessarily having to restrict themselves. There are other alternatives as well. Aside from this, the fact that writers are still able to gather data from the student makes the research process easier.

I would admit that I was on the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to academic writing. My work didn't stand out in the beginning. After a year of working for pennies, I heavily decided on ensuring that I have quality output regardless of how much I was being paid. This was how I got to the top of the chain and made my mark on certain customers. Remember that the quality of your work determines (if you're under a company) how long you will last in the industry. If you cannot write with ease, you won't be able to make it out as well.