So you really don't see that Major has actively defended the above posted essay and the banner ad sites, in this thread and another? You can't see that he asked me to order an essay as a test and then gets angry when I follow through? If you can't see this, then there is no helping you.

I present to you, Exhibit B.

So this illustrates another dubious tactic called recrimination (see Major above). It is used in an attempt to draw the opponent into an argumentum ad hominem. It works well for them because most people who post here only do so for a short while before leaving in frustration.

And if you want more proof that EssayScam, Major, and their cronies are not truly concerned about essay scams, then notice that they removed my evidence (the essay from essaythinker.com) for scamming from this thread. It was removed because I posted the essay on Reddit. In this very egregious case of scamming, the moderators/owners of EssayScam have demonstrated a disinterest in exposing true scams.

I'll also add that if you ever needed proof that Writer2Beware has ever been wrong on this forum, well, then you are reading it right here. She/He has said, time and again, that EssayScam has the express purpose of exposing scams. I present to you, Exhibit A.

Nope. They're not very good with irony.

Notice that they tend to focus on shifting the burden of proof. They will ask you to prove something that you never argued. And if you make the mistake of biting on that lure, they then shift it to something else you have to prove. If by chance that you do prove a point or offer evidence for a claim, they won't accept this. In short, you can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game. It's like a thermodynamic nightmare.

They make statements to the effect that they have never been wrong about anything they have stated on here. However, any reasonable person will realize that after a thousand posts, you are bound to say something wrong at some point. Its just statistical certainty.

Intellectual modesty is not a virtuous trait on this forum.

It's almost like arguing with an internet troll.

To be fair, most of the time these guys are not wrong, or right. Its called being elusive. They make statements that are neither right or wrong and thereby avoid telling the truth or lies. You can't prove or disprove anything. So there is no point in arguing unless you are trying to tease out a little bit of information; a pattern will emerge when a person talks enough. It's been a little too easy to guide them through various arguments.

But, to be sure, they are wrong sometimes. In these cases I refer to the Dude who says, "You're not wrong. You're just an a$$hole."

So where is the kernel of truth here? It's this: EssayScam.org supports advertisements for ESL scam sites. The prolific forum members make a lot of noise about these scam sites and insist that EssayScam is designed to expose scams. However, they can't seem to put it all together and see the lunacy in a site that both promotes and claims to expose scammers. They also spend a lot of time attacking people like us, while admitted scammers like Major are given a free pass. Yes, Major has directly implicated himself and defends the scam sites in the banner. Major also does and says things that insinuates that he has behind the scenes knowledge of EssayScam. They keep telling me to read the forum to find this information, and this is what I found. Normally, most folks don't stick around long enough to properly challenge these guys, so they're a bit irritated with me.

And the argument continues with claims that this site is an important vigilante outpost in the fight against evil essay scammers. The facts are that everything here is 1) supposed to be for entertainment purposes and 2) the site is owned by a company that sells their essay services.

Unfortunately, I make statements that exposes a bit of my neck making me prone to attacks. So don't stand too close or you'll get a bit of blood spatter.

Ohhh 99Essays, you and that logic. That has no place here.

At any rate, when I say Big 10, I actually mean Michigan, plus some people who come to get destroyed at the Big House.

I prefer character assassination.

I see what you are doing there Major Major. Conversation over.

And here are examples of my illegal activities and deceptive practices.

Exhibit C.

In all of this, I am still having trouble with the fact that you are actually defending the above posted essay.

Shouldn't that be posted on the website? You are saying that the quality of an ordered essay is a crap shoot. That's like saying the quality of a bicycle that one orders from a company depends on who is fulfilling orders on the day it is shipped, regardless of what price I paid. I'd be really pissed off if I paid $2000 USD and either received a Trek or a Huffy, depending on who was serving me that day.

This alone absolutely shows without any doubt that you are a scammer. File a lawsuit, whatever, I don't care. And it is extremely telling that editor75 and writers2beware have not descended on you for your clear admissions of guilt thus far. These guys flock to any sort of dissent on this forum like flies on crap. Yet, they are incredibly silent on this current issue and continue cry that the sky is falling over the ads in the banner. This is proof that is as clear as any that indicates all three of you and this site are involved in some serious scams. And you have the nerve to talk about judges and the law? Give me a break.


I think that you should tell us what level I ordered. That would be very interesting if you actually knew the answer to your own question. Whatever the level, the paper does not meet any undergraduate academic standard that I have seen at any community college, university (state or private), and foreign university. Use this paper as a resource for any class and you will fail, fail, fail. So no, the academic level that I requested is absolutely not relevant in any way.

Judges, lawyers, bring it.

Okay, I'm done with editor75 too. I promise to never bother this guy ever again. You guys are really pushing me out of this forum, and not in a way that I had expected.

Again: You asked for me to do this and you directly stated a "test" order is a good idea. This was your idea. Maybe it wasn't fair to ask for something as technical as radioisotopes (I'll phone my alma mater right away and tell them to lower their standards), but you have to admit that the writing quality, on all fronts, is rather poor. The googled research is abysmal.

Again: There is no competition. I do not compete with these sites. For starters, my writing simply is not that horrible. It's like saying that Walmart competes with my local bicycle shop. If you are seriously considering a paper from one of your sites, then 1) you can't afford me and 2) you haven't a vague understanding of quality.

Going on with the Walmart analogy, I believe that the company offers a low quality product at the expense of their employees and consumers. This is not slander or any form of deceptive trade practice. It's my opinion backed up with some facts. If you don't want to buy equipment and parts off of me because you prefer Walmart, then again this is no sweat for me. Go for it.

Fast-essay and essaythinker offer a low quality product at the expense of their employees and consumers. This is my opinion and it is backed up by facts (see the above). Further, I can look at some web copy and deduce that writing quality will likely be poor. Again, my opinion. I can also look at my competitors and note that maybe their services aren't exactly following the letter of the law. This is my opinion and it is a low one at that because I'm just some dude with a crappy website. If I were more than some dude, with lots of money to hire a lawyer, the best lawyers, then I could probably take down this entire enterprise and go after my competitors in some meaningful way. But, this will never happen.

I'm not going to win any legal battles. I don't have anybody on retainer. I'm also sure that you are not a lawyer and your insinuated threats of a deceptive trade practice lawsuit are completely empty. And if they are not empty, then your lawyers will surely find that I have not benefited financially in anyway from from voicing my opinion about my non-competitors. In fact, you have no idea whether I have made any profits from any of this. Sure, a good lawyer could money my back to the wall, but I know when to bow out before any of that nonsense happens.

You see, it comes back to the fact that I haven't actually competed with any of these folks that you claim I have slandered.

I will concede, however, that a cease and desist letter, or something of that sort would make me stop. I don't have money to pay for a real Tango.

Oh yeah. Public forum? I think that you had better consult with your lawyer on that one. This is not a public forum in any way, shape, or form. Jeeze Louise, even Wikipedia knows this. And they they don't know anything.

Alright, so I'm done with Major; I've learned all that I need from this guy. I promise not to give this guy a hard time anymore. Sincerely.

Next?

It is very sad. I am a very sad and lonely boy. What's even more sad is that I have asked some very poignant questions and have dared to cast a critical eye at my peers. Criticizing one's peers is absolutely against the standards of conduct in academics. Imagine if in the peer review process the reviewers were allowed to criticize every little detail in any given piece of writing submitted to them for publication. We would never achieve any high standards, ever. And thank the gods that professors don't actually grade their papers for grammar, spelling, diction, and style. Most students would never make it past their freshman year.

And you're right once more about questioning the integrity of others. Doing so is never an acceptable business practice because the bottom line always falls way below the protective shell of integrity. Conflict of interest? Never happens. It's just a human construct for nut jobs. Deception and predatory advertising? Not even once. This would never happen in an endeavor where capitalism intersects with academics. The innocence of the students and supreme business ethic on EssayScam will forever prevail!

Again, essayscam/forum/ot/kinds-writing-services-allowed-advertise-here-4717/2/

Okay, here you go (see the above).


What? What, what? Oh, you didn't want me to do that thing that you asked me to do? You finicky son of a...

Again,

I am Elmer J. Fudd, millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht.

Again,

I am Major Major, scammer. I own a scam site and a misplaced sense of quality.

Come on Major, stay on track. We need you here.

But I'll indulge you just a bit: I am not competing with fast-essay, essaythinker, or any of the other's advertised here, right now. There is no competition. None. The kind of client that does business with these kinds of places is not the kind of person that I want to engage in a business transaction. I know that will interpreted as high and mighty; so be it.

Now that we have that out of the way, how about some of my questions? I think it is obvious that Major endorses this kind of low quality writing, is it not? It also seems obvious that EssayScam has a dubious position in the academic ghostwriting industry? Question mark.

Here, Major was being kind in another thread and helped us sort through this archaic forum: essayscam.org/forum/gt/selling-term-papers-illegal-states-1285/

I don't care what Major says, I still still love the guy.

Have you ever walked into a circle of friends and they share inside jokes and stories while expecting you to follow along? I've never been one to just sit there and take it, so I just barge in on the conversation. It's fun to see their faces when they eventually realize that they've been a fully rude and maybe a bit provincial.

At any rate, I'm used to doing my research under duress.

I have completed writing projects for many clients that I have absolutely hated. The quality is at or very near the same high-level, no matter what. If I cannot provide something that passes for the level requested, then I will state up front that I cannot do it. I have turned down more projects than I have accepted. You do not do this, Major. Neither of your two websites do this. You take whatever you can get your hands on and churn out a poor quality product. In academics, we refer to someone who works at an unqualified level as being intellectually dishonest. I'll leave out the intellectual part and call you dishonest.

Illegal? Maybe. Competition? Wow.

I admit that the 'fear of writing' or graphophobia is an extremely technical topic. It was entirely unfair of me to order such an advanced topic from an "academic" ghostwriting service. And I was completely off the mark for criticizing high-level professionals for stating the obvious. I'm sorry.


Mmmm, good. Now we're getting somewhere. Now if someone could quote me the letter of the law instead of offering unqualified legal advice?

I was entirely wrong about Writers2Beware and have updated my website accordingly. Awesome. Anybody else wanna take a stab?

A problem with asking questions is that the ignorance of the questioner is revealed. I tend to ask a lot of questions and thus reveal a lot of my ignorance. I don't really know what is going on with this forum. There aren't a lot of hard facts to go on, so the best that I can offer is bunch of questions and a little conjecture. I realize that many of my questions irritate people and that these queries are confused with false claims. And I do make some unsupported claims; I prefer to call it BS.

I've been called some awful names here. I guess that's fine. Apparently, I'm just some trolling dude with a crappy website who has nothing to say that is worth hearing. I've got another question that will likely reveal my ignorance: Why do the same people who call me 'clueless' get their panties in a knot. If I really am a troll, then why doesn't everybody ignore me?

The site fast-essay.com is now a known scammer site. It was very apparent from reading the web copy of fast-essay.com that it is an ESL scam. Either the owners and operators of EssayScam.org are not all too bright, have no problem with aiding scam sites in exchange for money, or both.

Fast forward to now. Read the web copy and watch the video from EssayThinker.net. It has the same sort of (I'd say almost identical) diction and idiom speed bumps as fast-essay.com. It is very clear that these guys are not as they portray themselves. However, I'll be the first to admit that I am wrong when someone shows me proof that these guys can write a legitimate and high-quality essay.

But here I am poking some poor ESL site in eye. That's not very big of me, I guess. The point of this thread (Major's thread) is to encourage criticisms (and maybe a sting operation) of graphophobic. I do get lots of weird messages from folks (maybe some of you) wanting weird things that I can't provide. While I am a weird dude with a crappy website, I can't abide. My advice is to send me a PM if you have serious concerns. If you want to fish, then I'd rather meet up with a fly rod and pretend to catch trout while drinking beer.

Only because I'm "so tired of being alone." Dr. Lonelyheart has his limits.

There's nothing inherently wrong with Winger. They just came out with a new album, and its f#ing sweet brah! But if you are one of these "old stuff is better than the new stuff" dudes, then I ain't got time for your !#s.

Why do you insist on editing my beautiful words! You totally sucked the life out of my hair band motif. I hate you mod. No more prayers!

So its pretty clear, at least to me, that Major does run things around here. He/She carved this thread out of another and made it his/her own. Proof is in my e-mail notification chain. While I'm goofing about, I can't help but wonder if Major got a little ticked that I said scammers are knowingly promoted by EssayScam, which in turn means that Major actively takes money from known scammers. Again, this isn't anything that hasn't been noted before, right? Students beware - you're being snowed.

At any rate, back to goofing. I think that I may actually dig out my old cassette tape collection. I never liked CDs and have no love for MP3s. I'm such a reactionary.

Well, I used GoDaddy's (mistake #1) web builder (mistake #2). And given the state of my html knowledge, yes, the site was essentially designed in 1997 because that is where my mind left off. It's kind of like how my uncle still listens to Winger and drives a Trans Am - you can see where his cultural input stopped.

Somebody is trying to test my testicles with a bit of tickling.

Yeah, its a s-i*ty site. I shouldn't be allowed to design my own pages, but there I am. My apologies to anyone who has to endure that aesthetic nightmare. I actually haven't designed a site since 1997, so the more criticisms, the better.

However, I am the kind of academic that many students need to get by in order to get that degree. This is very unlike the supposed "academic" writers here. Lift up the hood and check the engine. Its a sleeper.

I will also argue that my site is better than most of the nickel and dime sites I see posted on EssayDirectory.

And, more importantly, I have the testicular fortitude to stick my neck out and do my own thing. Aarrgh!

I think that we can cook up a good plate of scam and eggs here.

I find it hard to believe that EssayDirectory or EssayScam would allow a scammer to advertise here.

I am absolutely certain that many undergrads in east coast universities would have trouble stating the capitol of CA or whether there is a bear on the state flag. Now if you asked them about the Governator...

I'm back to troll my own thread. Would anybody like to speculate or make wild claims about why scammers are allowed to advertise on a forum that purports to expose scammers?

Captain Obvious strikes again! Thank God he's here to set the record straight!

So you're calling me a troll in my own thread were I post damning evidence about an obvious scammer?

I developed the claim from reading nearly all of your posts. You tend to go after easy targets and then claim that you have done some great service in the name of innocent students. It's a common false-policing tactic.

I want you to prove the claim that you are here out of the goodness of your heart.

So here is the most recent example of Writers2Beware in his/her continua fight with Queen Sheba. It is obvious that Queen Sheba is a first order troll who does nothing but attack everybody and everything. Queen Sheba is a screaming banshee with no rhyme or reason to her posts. But this is obvious to all who read through EssayScam.

The really odd thing is that Writers2Beware has been arguing with Queen Sheba this entire time (~2.5 years). I've been arguing with these two; however, I'm not going to continue this for multiple years. I would for only two reasons; either money or insanity. The money incentive is kind of obvious, unless I tell you that I am doing all of this because I care about the students who get scammed. Then the money incentive becomes all muddled, and a bit dishonest.

So why is it that writers2beware works so hard at work, arguing with Queen Sheba and fighting ESL scammers in the mean streets? Writers2beware claims to be doing this for the good of the students. But if she is doing so much good, then why is she so mean to everybody? Why does she only pick the obvious and low-hanging fruit variety of ESL scammers? Why does she hide her motivations and affiliations?

This is writers2beware's signature, "Never trust any member's claims at face value. Demand evidence that you can verify." Well, I don't trust any of his/her claims and I demand verifiable evidence that she has no economic incentives for her vigilante work.

That's your claim. Prove it. Tit for tat.

No, but apparently if you say something enough times, then it becomes true.

That's debatable and you are one to speak about harassing other members. Just read your own posts. Maybe you should just tell us why you are the self-chosen hero of EssayScam and will change my signature. The answer is not, as you say, to be found in the forum. If it is, then prove it.

It is very suspicious that you have no problem enlightening me on everything but the question of why you are the self-chosen EssayScam vigilante. Why are you the self-appointed watchdog? What is in it for you to point out obvious scammers that nearly anybody with half a brain can see?

Thanks Mr. Obvious! You've saved the world's college students from making bad choices. If it weren't for you to point out the obvious, then we would all be lost to the scamming ESLers who are so difficult to identify.

Nope. I'm competing with you to see who has more free time.

If you say it enough times, does it then become true? I like the bold sentences. Its a real demonstration of your seriousness. You're really shooting me down now.

It is clear that you have no inkling of what it takes to do real research. It also clear that this is not a debate. There is no debate to be had with one who believes what they know, and knows what they believe. And again, you're being obtuse to the point that there is no point in detailing your misrepresentation of facts and interpretation.

Bottom line: You are confusing honesty with legality. But that's okay, conflating terms like that is a common ESL mistake. Keep hanging out here and you'll learn the distinction at some point.

You remind me of my ex-wife. She always had to ferret out the negative aspect of every situation. Like you, there is no satisfaction to be found on this earth. And she seemed only able to master the subtleties of debate when it suited her. When called out there would be much back peddling, side-stepping, and recrimination. Sometimes it was like listening to Donald Rumsfeld handle a reporter where he would answer the question he wanted to hear instead of the one immediately asked. Moments of truth were met with longer moments of stone walling.

So its clear that you represent a company or set of companies/sites. As I read through some older material and search across the information super tubes, I see that you seem to be related to essaytown and student network resources. While these companies may not be scamming, they certainly seem to be taking advantage of their writers by paying them less than a living wage and snowing their students by having multiple store fronts with a single back-end. This is your gig, no? Any company and representatives (you) that goes to this much trouble to hide the true nature of their business is not anything less than deceptive.

Not true. You obviously care, otherwise you wouldn't be in this perpetual argument with Queen Sheba.

Yep, I guess putting 'federal court' in all caps really puts me in my place. You are still not listening.

Yes, it is okay to hire someone to do research. I've done plenty for investors and business types, who then pass it off as their own albeit reconfigured. And that's fine too; they paid for it, I signed a contract, and it's theirs to do with as they please. No problem.

And you are right: All six of those students at BU were operating within the law. There was no plagiarism. However, they are still being intellectually dishonest (again, not illegal) because they did not go through the pains of finding their own sources. Real research is hard and painful. The good bits are likely not found on the Google, and if they are, then they involve non-trivial searches. A real academic knows this (there are few). A real academic ghostwriter knows this too, probably better than the professors.

You have no proof that I am crooked. If you do, then post it here. I want to see it.


Nope. You're supposed to keep showing your anger. It's working in my favor.

1) Aug 1, 2014, 05:59AM: "The other thing that doesn't make sense is that most of the ESL/ENL writers come here like cavemen and basically make grunting noises and then the other scammers are fairly obvious too (like the advertised company in the banner above). It is all so obvious."

2) None.

Happy?

Have you been drinking tonight? I'm about three beers in and I can see that you're not following along very well.

Will you just contact me offline so we can sort this out?

Writers2Beware and editor75 were correct about fast-essay being a scam company. I was also correct about them being a scam company. We were all correct. Yay!

Thanks for posting your user info. I've enjoyed reading all of the vitriol and tantrums.