Amy1978 you seem to always defend Essay Writing Advisor and post information related to Essay Advisor, for all we know you're affiliated with them. Could the admin check Amy1978 to Essay Advisors accounts on this forum and see if their ips match?

"And you wonder why you were banned? You think you can show up someplace and post ridiculous accusations? Did you provide any proof whatsoever? I doubt it."

I sure as hell do not trust their so called verification screening.


How do we even know that these sites that Student Essay Advisor allows to display their logo have even passed this verification process? They just expect us to believe them? We have no idea who runs Essay Advisor, so therefore why should we trust them? This whole verification process could be a hoax so a small number of term paper mills can force out their foreign competition and direct more customers to their sites to increase sales. Then they hide behind their disclaimers, tell us "Buy American", and claim they are a watch dog group.

Lastly Essay Writing Advisor claims they do not make recommendations. When im fact they do.

Strangely enough, on their forum at Essay Advisor that the administrators of your forum do encourage "students" to use so called "approved web sites."

Proof they are trying to destroy their foreign competition.

Now I ask everyone to read all the information and ask yourself how you feel about Essay Advisor. This is the point were Student Advisor or amy comes in on this thread and claims I work for some paper mill and trying to spread lies. I've seen them do it on other forums when people talk about Essay Advisor.

Your welcome BenCole, before I make accusations I try to gather the facts.

Told you amy would claim I work for some paper mill. Her replies clearly show she works for Student Essay Advisor. I doubt amy is even a she, probably a guy.


As for taking the screen shots, it was just in case Essay Advisor removed those threads.


Umm, Amy look at the second photo. It was right in front of you.

I love how the facts make Amy go into defense mode. This is just funny.

Told you amy would claim I work for some paper mill. I doubt amy is even a she, probably a guy.


As for taking the screen shots, it was just in case Student Essay Advisor removed those threads.


Umm, Amy look at the second photo. It was right in front of you.

I love how the facts make Amy go into defense mode. This is just funny.


No prob BenCole, I can provide u with more information about Essay Advisor if you need it. I'm currently researching this supposed "watch dog" group myself.

See, she attacks me by claiming I work for term paper mill.

They claimed it was a verified site and therefore were endorsing it.


Yep, and Essay Advisor told that person in the thread in the screen shot of to "Buy American".

Once again you show you have some sort of affiliation with Student Essay Advisor since you go to great depths to defend them and know so much information about how they work internally. Sorry to tell you something Amy, but I can say what ever the hell I want about Essay Advisor and you can't do a thing about it. Only thing you or Essay Advisor do when someone questions Essay Advisor motives is attack the posters creditability and claim they work or own some paper mill. Hate to break the news to you, but regular people with no affiliations to any term paper sites don't like what the site is doing. They are attempting to control the way term paper mills work in an open international market because they are being beaten by their international competitors. Those that don't feel like being pushed through Essay Advisor stupid verification process(if this verification process is even done) are then labeled scam sites..

Here is how Student Essay Advisor started.

-Research Writers Today and its other sites start to see a decrease in business due to foreign competition.
-Research Writers Today comes up with the idea to create a fake watch dog group to label their foreign competition scam sites.
-Research Writers Today is created and a list of supposedly scam sites is listed.
-Research Writers and its other sites start to see an increase in sales.
-People start to notice Essay Advisor motives are bs.
-Essay Advisor counters by saying anyone who questions Essay must work for a foreign term paper mill.

So I don't care what you say Amy, you can sit here and try to defend your site Essay Advisor while and people like me will continue to attack Essay Advisor's motives.

I hope you can come up with something better then, "He owns or works for a paper mill, so don't believe him". I waiting the admin now to come in and verify that amy and Essay accounts have the same ip.


Well said BenCole, took the words right out of my mouth.

You just hit the nail on the head. You don't own a company, but the way Essay Advisor is playing this makes you believe they own a writing company or are affiliated with them. My thing is Student Essay Writing Advisor expects us to believe everything they say. They claimed to test over 500+ sites through their verification process. We have no clue who owns and operates Essay Advice, and let alone if they are doing anything they claim, so why should we believe them?

Excellent points again Bencole.

Now don't get me wrong here, but I could be completely wrong about Student Essay Advisor. They could be a legit watch dog group, but till they start providing some evidence on their claims I can not believe them one bit. As of now I'm still under the impression they are a fake watch dog group with a hidden agenda.

The the way to run to forums and use legal threats against people who say other wise about Essay Advisor makes people wonder their true intentions.

I for one would love to be allowed to assist in Essay Advisor's verification process. Would help shine some light on this whole matter.


True, but Essay Advisor expects us to believe we should trust them when they claim sites they verified are located in the US. For all we know it is run in Russia or Brazil.

That's exactly what I've been trying to say! We don't know who runs Essay Writing Advisor and what their agenda is. Funny how you mention disappearing threads, because a few a discussion threads that were active on the site were removed for no apparent reason.

Amy why did you have to come back to this thread? We came to a conclusion about Essay Advice already and Bencole stated it perfectly.

You can sit here and claim I work for some paper mill and I can sit and claim you work for Student Essay Advisor. In short neither of us will win.

All I want people to know is, we have no clue who runs Essay Advisor and they may have another agenda. Though when someone post something negative about them they immediately lash out at the persons credibility and state, "they work for some foreign paper mill and they are full of lies." When in fact they can not prove that.

Also, Essay Writing Advisors forum, I think Bencole summed this up better then I could.

I agree with you BenCole, the way they run that forum makes you question them.

To end this I say, Essay Advisor start showing some proof these sites are going through these supposed verifications process and allow some third parties to assist so we can verify you claims are true. Till then you don't have the right to say a thing about anyone who questions your credibility, till we the public verify your credibility and intentions.

Don't even attempt to compare Essay Advisor to BBB.. Student Essay Advisor has not even been proven a legit non-profit watch dog group.

Now I ask you to answer this. Why in the hell should we believe the site when we do not know who runs it or their intentions?

I'm not the only one who questions it. Professors, students, wikipedia.org, and many other have asked questions about Essay Advisor, and it screams and whines when they are questioned.

Hey BenCole, would it be ok if emailed the admin and asked for your email? Student Writer Essay Advisor is not a business.

Looks like they are scared BenCole, they are saying you run a paper mill now.

It appears Essay Writing Advisor has banned my ip from accessing the site.

Though when I go through a free anonymous proxy, I can access the page instantly.

This raises some interesting questions, why would they ban an American ip from accessing their site? I have not posted any negative or slanderous comments on their forum. Also, how in the heck did they get my ip? I dropped an email to the admins at essayscam to see if they have heard of this happening before.

True Major, but my internet connection is on a high speed cable internet with its own unique ip. I have a router and firewall running and no one is using my connection but me, my personal ip was banned. Sorry to tell you Essay Advisor, I can get around your little deny access.list on your apache webserver with the million of free proxies on the net.

Well you're right about something, every time you post a comment or thread it logs your ip so the admins can see who posted it. Though you are wrong about me posting something against their rules on their forum. I figure out how they got my ip, I had a gantoris account on their forum and never used it. Essay Advisor seeing a gantoris on this forum checked their forum and saw a gantoris account and banned the ip from the site.

What a freaking joke, got something to hide Essay Advisor?

Hate the break the news to you, there is no such software to block all proxies. 90% of all proxies used can not be detected as proxies. You still have no given a legit reason to why my ip was banned. I have neither posted anything negative, slanderous, illegal, and so on your forum. One thing you know for sure since you have located my ip is I'm located in Indiana, and I'm American. Yes, I'm a bad thing for Essay Advisor, I'm a concerned individual about Essay Advisor with no paper mill affiliations, that makes Essay Advisor only defense seem to fail. Just banning my ip makes you group look even worse, if it will go to such extremes to keep someone away from their site. Am I hitting a hot spot? Or worse the truth? This thread is full of concerns about Essay Advisor, I suggest you start answering them.


And you know this how? Dozens of others with non paper mill affiliations have raised concerns about Essay Advisor. Thats the reason why you not welcome on wikipedia.org and other forums. Best part is every time someone raised a concern about your group, you scream they work for some Russian or Pakistan paper mill with out a ounce of evidence.

Student Essay Advisor has no reason to question my agenda till the public verify your credibility, intentions, and agenda. Does putting up a website, laying down some disclaimers, telling people to buy American just suddenly give you all this credibility? I think not.

Bencole stated it better then I could.

So I ask Essay Advisor to allow me to assist their watchdog group. If I can verify their intentions and see they do the things they claim they do I can vouch for them. I will even Publically apologize and defend Essay Advisor till the end.

Once again amy comes to Essay Advisor defense.


Well is appears neither do you, so for someone to access Essay Advisor, it would have to scan over 65,000 ports on that one persons connection and test everyone of them to see if a proxy is active, and that is only if that port identifies itself as a proxy. That would p#ss off a lot of firewalls/network security hardware, furthermore it will waste all and I mean all of Essay Advisor bandwidth. How the hell can a non-profit group pay for some much bandwidth? . I'm just talking about ports too, don't get me into SOCKS.

Amy stop speaking, you have no grounds to speak for Essay Advisor since you claim you do not work with them.

Good question, I'm a student. People need to watch the watch dog groups and verify they live up to their claims. Even non-profit organizations in the US are audited to confirm nothing illegal is going on. That's all, I don't believe for one Essay Advisor does anything them claim. That's why I have asked Student Essay Advisor to allow me to assist them. What harm is that? They do not have to give me their address, phone #, name, etc. I would just like to be allowed to participate with them. Any truly non profit group would allow assistance from any volunteer.

I'm majoring in network engineering and I'm not an English major. Don't attack my poor writing skills.. I'm still laughing how I schooled you on proxies.

I would love to, just as soon as Essay Advisor allows me to assist them so I can verify what they say is true. Because right now we can neither verify if anything is true or false. Just because they say it, does not make it a fact.

Oh yes, everything ever posted in the internet is 100% true. Care to tell me when I can find these court records?

Amy now I have something for you, I want you to prove everything Essay Advisor says and does is true. So that means you need to prove the verification process is legit and even done, they are located in the US, and are not affiliated with other paper mills to help them increase sales. Also don't be sending me to links on the site, just because it says it doesn't mean it is true.

Maybe you should read this again.

Nothing on Essay Advisor can be verified true or false! get in your damn head. You can't do what I ask because it would expose Essay Advisor as a fraud.

Because Student Essay Advisor is going to through such limits to hide all aspects of how it functions or works. Which by the way if you are in the US that is illegal!

Yes, Yes I already know that. but you still have not done the following:


Sure thing, just as soon as you prove it true.

See, what Amy and Essay Advisor do not realize is when they claim they are non-profit and located in the US they fall under the jurisdiction of the US government and its NPO division. They legally have to layout their infrastructure of their organization and have to allow third parties or government auditors to verify the legitimacy of their organization.

When in fact they do nothing of the above they are violating quite a few US laws.

Essay Advisor is just not a forum, their own press release Essay Advisor wrote says other wise. So you ready to start proving everything Essay Advisor says and does it true? Because I'm about start filing complaints to all the major government department that can legally over see the site.

Oh yeah, I forgot it was ok to release multiple press releases about the same thing because people called you out on your first press releases, then Essay Advisor changes the way they work so people would not question them.

Amy you have lost, since you can't do the following

Since you can't prove it true it must be false. Thank Amy for verifying Essay Advisor is a huge scam.

Thank you Essay Advisor for blocking proxies, you just blocked a few million innocent people from vising your site. Yep, see Essay Advisor doesn't realize that a upwards of 30 million people have to use proxies to surf the internet. They just blocked 30 million people for little old me.

I can not find anything on google that you suggest can prove Essay Writing Advisor is legit.

You're back again claiming I work for some paper mill. You now are dodging the questions.

Hahaha, I can still access it.. See, your little Apache script is blocking common proxy ports. Sadly that blocks people not trying to hide they are using a proxy because their ISP forces them to use it.

Need me to school you more?

No Robert, that is Essay Writing Advisor attempt to stop me from going to their site. Sadly it affects innocent people visiting their site.

I tried verifying those claims, could you please help me verify them. Or are you trying to dodge me?

Also I can not find anything on google that can prove the verification process is legit and even done, they are located in the US, and are not affiliated with other paper mills to help them increase sales.

Fine Amy, and we discovered there is not one shread of evidence that
- their verification process is legit and even done.
- they are located in the US
- are not affiliated with paper mills to help them increase sales.
This is what I'm challenging Essay Writing Advisor on.

I have proven you can't back up a thing Essay Advisor says because there is not on piece of true evidence that confirms they are legit. If you can't prove they are legit Amy, this conversation is over, you have lost and the site Rep who has been observing this forum has kept quite because they know for a fact I'm correct. Also just by blocking 30+ million people from accessing the site just to block me makes Student Essay Advisor even look worse. If Essay Advisor is trying to get the word out, they just told 30 million people tough luck, you can't come to our site since you use a proxy.

So you saying you can't prove
- their verification process is legit and even done.
- they are located in the US
- are not affiliated with paper mills to help them increase sales.

I'm off to bed, good night.

Thank you Kimber for helping me locate some proof, this Amy and Essay Advisor rep have been useless in helping me locate any proof on what Student Essay Writing Advisor does is even true. Curious now to see what you have to show. Thanks for nothing Kimber, sent me to a link we already had posted in this thread.

Amy please don't post links to a site that we can not verify is credible.

Good points amy, this is exactly like what you do to promote essayfraud and its articles. Care to explain why you go to great depths to help promote them?

talkback.zdnet.com/5208-9588-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=26034&messageID=500511
digg.com/political_opinion/Turnitin_com_violates_IP_rights
plagiarismtoday.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=9

This is the exact same thing you posted here on essayscam.

I agree with you on that one, I've ordered from them four times now, and each paper was good. One of my assigned writers did make a mistake on one paper, they were quick to fix it within 48 hours.

Yeah, I'm sorry to say I can't take your word for that, we need hard proof.

I've used them for a few papers and they did a good job if you are a foreign student, though I learned you have to be very descriptive on what you need exactly so you will get a paper the way you want it written.

Not sure, I'm not the one writing the paper. Maybe you should contact them.


When I place an order I submit literally what the paper should be on, and include an outline for the layout of the paper so it will fit the criteria of what is needed in it. You have to remember the writer of this paper is not in your class, so they try to write the paper as close as they can to your description of what you need. The more information you submit the better the paper turns out.

I have only sent in orders for papers ranging from 5-8 pages, I can not vouch for them on a 60 page paper.

When is this to be turned in?

Just hilarious to see these false facts you're posting. Don't worry; the mod will delete your post soon, as they did last time you posted this slanderous garbage. Best part of this is you didn't provide one once of evidence, in that whole post.

Here is a link to the story without the need to goto another site to get the link:

" Two McLean High School students have launched a court challenge against a California company hired by their school to catch cheaters, claiming the anti-plagiarism service violates copyright laws.

The lawsuit, filed this week in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, seeks $900,000 in damages from the for-profit service known as Turnitin. The service seeks to root out cheaters by comparing student term papers and essays against a database of more than 22 million student papers as well as online sources and electronic archives of journals. In the process, the student papers are added to the database."

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/28/AR2007032802038.html

Thank you for the slanderous remarks just for posting a link to a news article.

The burden of proof lies on the accuser.

No problem, thank you for posting a bunch if lies that you can not prove are true.