Amy you've been in violation of the rules too;

5. All posters agree to be respectful to each other, moderators, and to owners of essay writing websites. EssayScam.org has the right to ban posters who do not abide legal and social norms and regulations.

We're still waiting for that proof you keep talking about.

Anyone interested in seeing what I'm talking about can read about it in this thread, https://essayscam.org/forum/gt/students-file-lawsuit-turnitin-copyright-infringement-182/.

Too Bad they don't, if they did they would of banned me long ago, and here I am still posting. Talk to me when you actually have this so called evidence you keep talking about. I have waited for you to show it to me several time in several different threads, and every time you never show it because none exist.

I repeat yet once again, if you have evidence show it.

Hey Mod, did Amy1978 ever show you this proof she keeps talking about?

I'm not the one accusing someone to be a term paper mill owner with zero evidence. I can sit here and refuse to answer you because I have the privilege to protect myself against self-incrimination.

The burden of proof lies on the accuser.

By the way, since you have no evidence to back up you Liable/slanderous remarks you are in violation of essayscams Disclaimer and Privacy Policy as follow,

5. All posters agree to be respectful to each other, moderators, and to owners of essay writing websites. EssayScam.org has the right to ban posters who do not abide legal and social norms and regulations.

So I must end this post with the following,

"Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense! Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamationdoes it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."

I don't have to answer a thing for you, you made an accusation and I said prove it.

Lets see it then.

Christ, your amazing. I could be an ass and sit here and accuse you of being the owner of essay fraud like I have done many times before. But you know what? I'm tired of trying that, because you sit and whine over and over again and accuse me of being a term paper mill owner. As I said this before, we have done this thread of responses four time now in four different threads. Then the mod of essayscam.com deletes the thread because we accomplish nothing.

So if you are accusing me of of being some Pakistan paper mill owner, you better come back with some hard evidence, so till then shut up.

I give the hell up on your Amy, because anyone who questions you or says anything negative must be a term paper owner from Pakistan in your eyes.

I'm not going to sit here and debate with you, because we have done this, what? about four times now? I have better things to do then waste my time with you.

The only thing I did in this thread was post a link to the news article. Why would you make a person on this forum go to another site to get a link to a news article when you could of just posted the link to the article in your post? That makes no sense!

No problem, thank you for posting a bunch if lies that you can not prove are true.

The burden of proof lies on the accuser.

Thank you for the slanderous remarks just for posting a link to a news article.

Here is a link to the story without the need to goto another site to get the link:

" Two McLean High School students have launched a court challenge against a California company hired by their school to catch cheaters, claiming the anti-plagiarism service violates copyright laws.

The lawsuit, filed this week in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, seeks $900,000 in damages from the for-profit service known as Turnitin. The service seeks to root out cheaters by comparing student term papers and essays against a database of more than 22 million student papers as well as online sources and electronic archives of journals. In the process, the student papers are added to the database."

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/28/AR2007032802038.html

Just hilarious to see these false facts you're posting. Don't worry; the mod will delete your post soon, as they did last time you posted this slanderous garbage. Best part of this is you didn't provide one once of evidence, in that whole post.

Not sure, I'm not the one writing the paper. Maybe you should contact them.


When I place an order I submit literally what the paper should be on, and include an outline for the layout of the paper so it will fit the criteria of what is needed in it. You have to remember the writer of this paper is not in your class, so they try to write the paper as close as they can to your description of what you need. The more information you submit the better the paper turns out.

I have only sent in orders for papers ranging from 5-8 pages, I can not vouch for them on a 60 page paper.

When is this to be turned in?

I've used them for a few papers and they did a good job if you are a foreign student, though I learned you have to be very descriptive on what you need exactly so you will get a paper the way you want it written.

Yeah, I'm sorry to say I can't take your word for that, we need hard proof.

I agree with you on that one, I've ordered from them four times now, and each paper was good. One of my assigned writers did make a mistake on one paper, they were quick to fix it within 48 hours.

Good points amy, this is exactly like what you do to promote essayfraud and its articles. Care to explain why you go to great depths to help promote them?

talkback.zdnet.com/5208-9588-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=26034&messageID=500511
digg.com/political_opinion/Turnitin_com_violates_IP_rights
plagiarismtoday.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=9

This is the exact same thing you posted here on essayscam.

Amy please don't post links to a site that we can not verify is credible.

Thank you Kimber for helping me locate some proof, this Amy and Essay Advisor rep have been useless in helping me locate any proof on what Student Essay Writing Advisor does is even true. Curious now to see what you have to show. Thanks for nothing Kimber, sent me to a link we already had posted in this thread.

So you saying you can't prove
- their verification process is legit and even done.
- they are located in the US
- are not affiliated with paper mills to help them increase sales.

I'm off to bed, good night.

Fine Amy, and we discovered there is not one shread of evidence that
- their verification process is legit and even done.
- they are located in the US
- are not affiliated with paper mills to help them increase sales.
This is what I'm challenging Essay Writing Advisor on.

I have proven you can't back up a thing Essay Advisor says because there is not on piece of true evidence that confirms they are legit. If you can't prove they are legit Amy, this conversation is over, you have lost and the site Rep who has been observing this forum has kept quite because they know for a fact I'm correct. Also just by blocking 30+ million people from accessing the site just to block me makes Student Essay Advisor even look worse. If Essay Advisor is trying to get the word out, they just told 30 million people tough luck, you can't come to our site since you use a proxy.

Also I can not find anything on google that can prove the verification process is legit and even done, they are located in the US, and are not affiliated with other paper mills to help them increase sales.

I tried verifying those claims, could you please help me verify them. Or are you trying to dodge me?

Hahaha, I can still access it.. See, your little Apache script is blocking common proxy ports. Sadly that blocks people not trying to hide they are using a proxy because their ISP forces them to use it.

Need me to school you more?

No Robert, that is Essay Writing Advisor attempt to stop me from going to their site. Sadly it affects innocent people visiting their site.

I can not find anything on google that you suggest can prove Essay Writing Advisor is legit.

You're back again claiming I work for some paper mill. You now are dodging the questions.

Oh yeah, I forgot it was ok to release multiple press releases about the same thing because people called you out on your first press releases, then Essay Advisor changes the way they work so people would not question them.

Amy you have lost, since you can't do the following

Since you can't prove it true it must be false. Thank Amy for verifying Essay Advisor is a huge scam.

Thank you Essay Advisor for blocking proxies, you just blocked a few million innocent people from vising your site. Yep, see Essay Advisor doesn't realize that a upwards of 30 million people have to use proxies to surf the internet. They just blocked 30 million people for little old me.

Essay Advisor is just not a forum, their own press release Essay Advisor wrote says other wise. So you ready to start proving everything Essay Advisor says and does it true? Because I'm about start filing complaints to all the major government department that can legally over see the site.

Yes, Yes I already know that. but you still have not done the following:


Sure thing, just as soon as you prove it true.

See, what Amy and Essay Advisor do not realize is when they claim they are non-profit and located in the US they fall under the jurisdiction of the US government and its NPO division. They legally have to layout their infrastructure of their organization and have to allow third parties or government auditors to verify the legitimacy of their organization.

When in fact they do nothing of the above they are violating quite a few US laws.

Maybe you should read this again.

Nothing on Essay Advisor can be verified true or false! get in your damn head. You can't do what I ask because it would expose Essay Advisor as a fraud.

Because Student Essay Advisor is going to through such limits to hide all aspects of how it functions or works. Which by the way if you are in the US that is illegal!

Oh yes, everything ever posted in the internet is 100% true. Care to tell me when I can find these court records?

Amy now I have something for you, I want you to prove everything Essay Advisor says and does is true. So that means you need to prove the verification process is legit and even done, they are located in the US, and are not affiliated with other paper mills to help them increase sales. Also don't be sending me to links on the site, just because it says it doesn't mean it is true.

I'm majoring in network engineering and I'm not an English major. Don't attack my poor writing skills.. I'm still laughing how I schooled you on proxies.

I would love to, just as soon as Essay Advisor allows me to assist them so I can verify what they say is true. Because right now we can neither verify if anything is true or false. Just because they say it, does not make it a fact.

Good question, I'm a student. People need to watch the watch dog groups and verify they live up to their claims. Even non-profit organizations in the US are audited to confirm nothing illegal is going on. That's all, I don't believe for one Essay Advisor does anything them claim. That's why I have asked Student Essay Advisor to allow me to assist them. What harm is that? They do not have to give me their address, phone #, name, etc. I would just like to be allowed to participate with them. Any truly non profit group would allow assistance from any volunteer.

Amy stop speaking, you have no grounds to speak for Essay Advisor since you claim you do not work with them.

Once again amy comes to Essay Advisor defense.


Well is appears neither do you, so for someone to access Essay Advisor, it would have to scan over 65,000 ports on that one persons connection and test everyone of them to see if a proxy is active, and that is only if that port identifies itself as a proxy. That would p#ss off a lot of firewalls/network security hardware, furthermore it will waste all and I mean all of Essay Advisor bandwidth. How the hell can a non-profit group pay for some much bandwidth? . I'm just talking about ports too, don't get me into SOCKS.

Hate the break the news to you, there is no such software to block all proxies. 90% of all proxies used can not be detected as proxies. You still have no given a legit reason to why my ip was banned. I have neither posted anything negative, slanderous, illegal, and so on your forum. One thing you know for sure since you have located my ip is I'm located in Indiana, and I'm American. Yes, I'm a bad thing for Essay Advisor, I'm a concerned individual about Essay Advisor with no paper mill affiliations, that makes Essay Advisor only defense seem to fail. Just banning my ip makes you group look even worse, if it will go to such extremes to keep someone away from their site. Am I hitting a hot spot? Or worse the truth? This thread is full of concerns about Essay Advisor, I suggest you start answering them.


And you know this how? Dozens of others with non paper mill affiliations have raised concerns about Essay Advisor. Thats the reason why you not welcome on wikipedia.org and other forums. Best part is every time someone raised a concern about your group, you scream they work for some Russian or Pakistan paper mill with out a ounce of evidence.

Student Essay Advisor has no reason to question my agenda till the public verify your credibility, intentions, and agenda. Does putting up a website, laying down some disclaimers, telling people to buy American just suddenly give you all this credibility? I think not.

Bencole stated it better then I could.

So I ask Essay Advisor to allow me to assist their watchdog group. If I can verify their intentions and see they do the things they claim they do I can vouch for them. I will even Publically apologize and defend Essay Advisor till the end.

Well you're right about something, every time you post a comment or thread it logs your ip so the admins can see who posted it. Though you are wrong about me posting something against their rules on their forum. I figure out how they got my ip, I had a gantoris account on their forum and never used it. Essay Advisor seeing a gantoris on this forum checked their forum and saw a gantoris account and banned the ip from the site.

What a freaking joke, got something to hide Essay Advisor?

True Major, but my internet connection is on a high speed cable internet with its own unique ip. I have a router and firewall running and no one is using my connection but me, my personal ip was banned. Sorry to tell you Essay Advisor, I can get around your little deny access.list on your apache webserver with the million of free proxies on the net.

Looks like they are scared BenCole, they are saying you run a paper mill now.

It appears Essay Writing Advisor has banned my ip from accessing the site.

Though when I go through a free anonymous proxy, I can access the page instantly.

This raises some interesting questions, why would they ban an American ip from accessing their site? I have not posted any negative or slanderous comments on their forum. Also, how in the heck did they get my ip? I dropped an email to the admins at essayscam to see if they have heard of this happening before.

Don't even attempt to compare Essay Advisor to BBB.. Student Essay Advisor has not even been proven a legit non-profit watch dog group.

Now I ask you to answer this. Why in the hell should we believe the site when we do not know who runs it or their intentions?

I'm not the only one who questions it. Professors, students, wikipedia.org, and many other have asked questions about Essay Advisor, and it screams and whines when they are questioned.

Hey BenCole, would it be ok if emailed the admin and asked for your email? Student Writer Essay Advisor is not a business.

Amy why did you have to come back to this thread? We came to a conclusion about Essay Advice already and Bencole stated it perfectly.

You can sit here and claim I work for some paper mill and I can sit and claim you work for Student Essay Advisor. In short neither of us will win.

All I want people to know is, we have no clue who runs Essay Advisor and they may have another agenda. Though when someone post something negative about them they immediately lash out at the persons credibility and state, "they work for some foreign paper mill and they are full of lies." When in fact they can not prove that.

Also, Essay Writing Advisors forum, I think Bencole summed this up better then I could.

I agree with you BenCole, the way they run that forum makes you question them.

To end this I say, Essay Advisor start showing some proof these sites are going through these supposed verifications process and allow some third parties to assist so we can verify you claims are true. Till then you don't have the right to say a thing about anyone who questions your credibility, till we the public verify your credibility and intentions.