For the most part, I have found that to be true, too.

It's great summer work.

Despite one's military, criminal, civilian, or other background, a bad essay is a bad essay. I am used to grading papers.

As for the other posts, I agree; it's completely pointless to argue. Now that myessay.com and academon.com's essay banks have been made nonentities by turnitin.com, who cares?

"Are you smarter than your writer?"

In this case, an adept second-grader could correct many of the above essay's author's global errors.

I see; you handed in the essay as your own. I assume that it was before the due-date, so the teacher "pre-graded" your paper. I wish my teachers had given me this option in school.

I'm not sure I understand. I can't imagine that things are that familiar, even in Oz, that you would tell your teacher you had contracted with an essay mill, and ask openly for feedback. If you did, then the teacher also likely suffers from being an extremely subjective judge of the essay's quality. After all, it is tainted material written by one of the enemies of his/her profession. You can see how one would be inclined to be somewhat over-critical in such a situation... if that is the situation to which you were referring.

My apologies, then. Based on your awkward phraseology, I mistook you for a non-native speaker. I would maintain my point that you are perhaps not the best judge of an essay's quality (unless you are a professor yourself), especially when you haven't been sleeping well, and, according to your posts here, you've already been ripped off by a Ukrainian site (hence the idiom).

I believe, "once bitten, twice shy," an idiom that wholly applies to your situation, and yet which you misunderstand, started out as a British saying (from the Aesop translation). It's familiar in the US, too, certainly, although it originated in Europe. Where are you from?

As the resident grammar snoot, I appreciate your defensiveness, as English is obviously not your native language.

I don't say that as a judgment; your English is good, and I appreciate the work you have put into it. It isn't easy becoming multilingual. It just makes me wonder whether or not you're really qualified to be the most objective or best judge of an essay's quality, especially since you are also once bitten, twice shy.

I apologize and take back what rustyironchains said about web copy not mattering, with the caveat that bad web copy is also found (though not as prevalently) among native US/UK/Canadian/etc. sites.

Researchmaster1= English beginner

From the website: "From year 2009 we have been helping students from the USA, UK, Australia, Canada, if you require guidaane to complete your Coursework, Essays, Term/Research paper or need help with your daily assignments, our team of professional writers, will help you in the shortest time possible."

Researchmaster1 has the same English grammatical, punctuation, and usage errors as the web copy writer (and is, I assume, the dumb spammer in charge of the above rip-off).

I love this kind of essay.

Take an 8-week intermediate ESL class. Tell them you need practice with prepositions, tenses, and gerunds vs. infinitives.

I'm pretty sure that you have to be a professor with clearance to feed anything to Turnitin.com.

You're right; I know a few optimistic lawyers, but I don't have the resources to hire a hotshot. That's why I started this thread: to catch the eye of any of those mob appointees in the skyboxes who might want to invest in making business as lucrative as it used to be.

It's not just me, and I don't "have a business;" I'm a writer like you. Everyone in the industry, from writers to companies, was selling pre-written papers until just a few years ago. It was the discount option, because it couldn't be tailored or customized, but it was very popular. And yes, anything is winnable.

I posted a lot early about my bad experiences as a writer for AR.com and EW.com, scam outfits out of Ukraine which robbed me when I wrote for them. It was nice to have a public forum in which to vent my extreme anger at these corrupt and despicable companies. I would say that was my most meaningful series of posts, as the posts were based on my direct experiences, rather than some sort of obligation I felt to protect or promote my own interests; thanks for asking.

Pirate-- You sound more like a slave than a pirate. That's slave talk, and you have it on borrowed authority.

And if you think I'm going to stop whining about some unfair stuff that's going on, and $5-7K a year that is suddenly gone from my income, you're a fool.

It's not just me, either. I've worked for companies who had been stockpiling pre-written essays into the exponents since the 1970s! And this is a winnable case. So yes, I'm making some noise, such as I can.

Major-- As I understand it, once a student hands in a pre-written essay, as they will, and it is entered into Turnitin.com (often automatically by the university), it then becomes part of Turnitin.com, and is detected as plagiarized from then on, becoming basically worthless to whomever was originally selling it. Is that right?

It's spam at this point, isn't it? Has no one told you that spam is at the same level of ineffective marketing as a pushy salesperson? If not, what rock do you live under?

You're in for a world of hurt, judging by whom you seem to be working for. My advice is to quit before they start robbing you. Do what you will, but don't say that no one warned you.

I think s/he is saying that s/he can guarantee a grade on math/science type papers, which is a lot easier to do than, say, guarantee an A on a well-written history essay which differs from the professors' politics, and catches them before breakfast.

Still, it's good to stick to the legal BS, and not promise grades, because that implies that you're expecting them to just hand it in. As everyone knows, it's just a BS caveat to escape culpability, but it does work.

UVOCorp fines their writers, don't they? How can that possibly make them good for writers? I think your list is limited by your experience.

culturecat.net/node/1156

Come on, get it together, scumbag rulers of the shadow industry! I want to see that day. Are you rats just going to let turnitin.com deep-six the value all your years of prewritten essays? Where are your cojones?

Ces, I was trying to tell you that "articles" are A, AND, and THE. Your language probably has its own articles.

Anyway, Merriam-Webster says it better than I can: "ARTICLE--4 grammar : a word (such as a, an, or the) that is used with a noun to show whether or not the noun refers to a specific person or thing - see also definite article, indefinite article."

When you then said that you "didn't quote any articles," it was hilarious, and you looked like an idiot, because (and this is another difficult part of English) "article" is a noun that has multiple meanings, and those meanings vary based on the context of the sentence in which the noun appears.

What is the name of the essay company that would dare employ you?

This is a pet peeve of mine, because I'm a native speaker, and I've been teaching ESL for 15 years. Especially abroad, but also in the US, more and more ESL teachers and tutors are not native English speakers, and actually are spreading ignorance rather than knowledge, due to their poor English skills. Now, I don't mind if the English isn't American; at my school, we've had Australian, Canadian, American, and UK English teachers, and that's great. I wouldn't go to Jamaica and set up shop as an expert in their idiom, personally, because I'm from the Midwestern US... but to each his/her own.

What bothers me is that during the last career development training session that I had, I watched 3 or 4 "teachers" get rubber-stamped through the program with absolutely abysmal skills, just because they (or their organizations) had paid the training fee. Their practice lessons were sad jokes! They just couldn't get it right... if you could understand through the heavy accents, what they were saying was embarrassing to any native English speaker who had been to elementary school.

Getting fluent in English requires steeping yourself in interaction with authentic native speakers, and about 12 years of study, just as a start. You can't butcher the language for 2 years in some backwater and declare yourself an expert. You have to have knowledge in order to pass it on. Otherwise, it's just another con game. Don't you want to be doing something that's not a con game?

"They offer check but to cash it in my bank it's even more fee than wire transfer."

You have no business tutoring in English, nor do you have any business writing term papers in it. You are missing the basics: you're already mixing up articles (a, and, the) and the simple past tense ("They offered a check") within the first three words fumbled from your fingertips.

I don't know your employer, but they obviously have pretty low standards, and, as such, they are probably ripping you off on the fees of which you complain, as well as other things. You deserve it; go sign up for some Berlitz lessons.

Burger King.

I love it when someone who barely speaks English ("especially on the cyber space") gets metaphorical beyond their powers. It's like someone who never took art lessons putting a few scribbles on canvas and then trying to pass themselves off as an abstract expressionist.

Prices should decrease due to competition, but the industry has recently changed, and who knows what's going on in Ukraine.

With the demise of pre-written essays and essay banks, the pricing structure has also, I'd imagine, driven up the price of original research.

Well, no one sued, hacked, or otherwise destroyed it, and now it's here to stay. Please add more if you think of any

Ways turnitin changed the industry:

#1 It effectively put the entire pre-written essay business six feet under. If you're a legit company with an essay bank, your whole library of pre-written essays is now worth next to nothing.

#2 Students can no longer recycle their own papers.

#3 Neither can shortcut-artists.

#4 Writers with papers on royalty stream systems and essay banks now earn next to nothing.

#5 Students have lost copyright to their intellectual property.

#6 Students are getting ripped off by free paper stealers masquerading as free plagiarism scanners.

Anything else you'd like to add? It's not only about Turnitin which is still not as bad as the offshore content editing and plagiarism checking tools that give themselves an opportunity to take and use submitted content as their own. It's called stealing through content licensing.

If they have "support chat," look for ignorance of your subject matter, poor English, etc. Chat with them for a long time; make references and ask questions. Notice their idiom and language.

I am fairly certain that most if not all essay mill companies are run by degenerates, regardless of the country in which they operate.

I remember giving academia-research.com a second chance the first time they stole from my account. What a mistake!

... and the owners remove yet another ad I lambast. Hey, this is the last freebie. Next time, you owe me whatever they paid you.


For leeches, yes it is. Everyone gets to take advantage, because apparently, the owners are either ******* morons, or as totally corrupt as anyone else in this cesspit.

Fast-essay.com is the latest advertiser-- it's like pulling teeth trying to get them to give out their location through on-site chat. Until...

"we are in the u.s

admin says: 15:00:28

in Carlifonia

1200 says: 15:00:48

me too, I am in LA.

... (time passes, strike 1 and strike 2 occur, still no address)

admin says: 15:07:53

We have writers in different states and this is just our head office where we receive the orders. You could bring the book to us but the writer handling your job is in another state

1200 says: 15:08:30

Well I would feel more comfortable bringing you the books.

1200 says: 15:08:35

I do not know how to scan them.

1200 says: 15:08:43

where is your office?

1200 says: 15:12:05

hello?

admin says: 15:13:27

you know the kind of business we do does not allow us to meet with our clients.

admin says: 15:13:40

or disclose such information

admin says: 15:13:59

you could be the police or something

1200 says: 15:14:21

oh, is what you do illegal?

1200 says: 15:14:28

I thought you sold model academic writing.

1200 says: 15:14:48

I have used services before on the East Coast that were happy to give me their address.

1200 says: 15:14:55

and directions to get there!

admin says: 15:15:06

if we could get the books online, coursemat or amazon, or scan some parts and send it to us, together with the other 6 sources. we will be happy to do it for you

1200 says: 15:15:17

Did you see what I just typed there?

1200 says: 15:15:29

I told you I can't scan them.

1200 says: 15:15:43

hey, I have a question for you.

1200 says: 15:15:52

and I'll thank you to answer quickly, no Googling.

1200 says: 15:15:57

what's the capital of California?"

I'm still waiting on the answer to that one, but I think it's strike three (four?). Someone had better either prove me wrong, or chalk up another error for the greedy site owners.

Time's up!

"Fast Essay," moving fast and loose with the law... and now with its scumbag FOB-sounding company rep responding in all new threads but this one... LA to Sacramento to (Kiev? The Philippines?) at the speed of idiocy! Where do you find these clowns, mod? How much do they pay you, and why can't you vet them right?

What I'm doing, MeowCon, is pointing at one of the banner ads up there and crying foul. I know you can't write in English, but I had thought you could at least read.

As for "not rocking the boat" on an anti-scam forum, haha, okay, great advice.

No one put you in charge anyway, so if you haven't done any digging into the issues at play in this thread yourself, kindly take your smarm elsewhere, perhaps Berlitz.

Nice preemptive bow-out, by the way, you cop-out little boot-licking wuss. Hit and run, right?

Now I suggest you keep your promise and stay out, if you want anyone to believe your lie that you're a "working writer" (I did 12 pages so far today, and still have time to casually destroy you as a postprandial).

brainypapers.com = academia-research.com

I encourage you, if you don't believe me, to go ahead and have a chat with them on their support chat, and try to pin down where exactly their US office is. It's fun. I'd love to post my own transcript, but I think I made them a little angry, and they suddenly cut all communications before I could save a copy.

Or, I guess you could call them? Here's the number posted on their site: +1-000-000-0000

Way to go, anti-scam crusaders of essayscam.org... your pockets are lined with more money from these desperate, bumbling thieves.

FFS, how hard is it to vet your ads!?

Critical Spoof Escort Service, or whatever they've morphed into now, a supposedly-legit UK company, pulls this kind of "quality assurance" crap, too. You're promised a price, and then it's whittled down to nothing from "editors' fees." Before I quit, I asked what it took to become an editor... no comment from the cow in charge. I also work for an American company that pays me 22% of what they charge. I continue to do it out of a silly sense of fidelity, mixed with a little bit of self-conscious pity.

But just so everyone knows, it's not just an overseas thing. There are plenty of scumbags to go around, unfortunately, everywhere.

Because when it comes down to it, what's reputation in this industry, anyway? It's a race to be the cleanest in the cesspit.

SNR is run by a piece of trash who can't use his real name. Sure, you can trust them with anything.

academic-paper.co.uk is the site's newest advertiser-- the English on their web copy is pretty bad, and their customer service interface is the exact same one essaywriters.net [DND*] et al. uses. I'm sure their money is green, though, right?

I haven't been able to chat with a representative, though I've been checking on and off for three days now... they're always offline. It could be a coincidence.

Thanks for your concerns. Me wish you good luck!

It's unfortunate that I used you as an example and summoned your broken-record-sounding self. Do you want to say something new or interesting about how much your ad cost? How well did it work? Maybe you would like to defend how you should be able to promote your services on a site that's supposed to be informational, not commercial. Anything but the same old victim crap, please.

Essay Writing Service UK, currently up there, promises their clients A papers. I'm sorry; is UK law different? And wouldn't it be called "1:1" or something, if it were really marketed to UK students?