I wish some of the companies I worked for would put me on advertising. I'd clean house.

WB, please stop saying you are here to help people and expose fraud.

as far as helping people, all you do to newbies with questions is accuse them of spamming and yell at them if they ask for recommendations.

your fraud-exposing tools are primitive-- Google and public records. you're no sleuth. you're an internet weirdo. it's unhealthy, what you're doing. promise me you'll seek help.

nice try, but you're not going to get my guard down with that sweet talk.

btw, WB, did you know that people who hide behind prescriptive grammar are often covering up for a lack of intelligence? it's true! want me to prove it?

--there! it's done.

peace out.

prescriptive vs. descriptive grammar. look it up... seriously. open and expand your mind. you're the one who looks like a fool here.

oh... and people do care, WB. for example, I care about you looking like a fool. I want you to be a better person. maybe you should take a little time out, read up on what you're arguing about, and come back... view your snooty, Sisyphean crusade here with some clean eyes. promise?

this is essaywriters.net, right?

for me-- worst, $6; best, $35+. if you work for a site that allows bidding, you can easily bid up customers who are in a rush.

I like the way you say this.

you should visit, too!

hey, crybaby! why don't you just drop out?

oops! where'd that definite article go??


there it is!

turnitin is the enemy. would someone who can hack please do us all a favor?

WB-- did you do your homework?

can you teach me how to write run-on sentences like a pro?


glad to know you're thinking about me. as I explained before, I don't do custom orders for AD.

you spelled pigeon right-- it's just that you're dumb. no spellchecker in the world is going to overcome that for you.

shades of gray, WB... a scam can be legal. what seems a scam can be legit. I'm not getting in a flame war with you about it... it's something to think about, though.

WB's misuse of these words "crime," "fraud," and "scam," is perhaps the most serious red flag you should look out for.

that scam I mentioned earlier was completely legal... and based in the US.

the only way to be sure is through experience. even sites that look bad are sometimes good, because this is a very stripey industry to begin with-- vice versa with sites that look good-- it's all about finding a writer you like and sticking with them. roll the dice. and don't trust WB's advice-- in case it's not obvious, they're about as far from objective empiricism as it gets.

funny to you, maybe. what's funny to me is when, limping towards the finish line in last place, you declare yourself the victor. it's almost admirable, a bull-headed, insane sort of way. of course, we're all jealous of you, WB, is what it comes down to. right?

1. customer orders paper

2. company delivers paper

3. customer is happy, or

4. customer gets free revisions until they're happy, or

5. customer gets a refund

how is this a scam again? I'm really not getting it.

yes!


actually, AR's whole premium promotion system is based on customer feedback. customers also get unlimited free revisions if they're not satisfied.


yep-yep.


for an annoying snoot, you sure don't know what "scam" means.

...and, still confused. I didn't ask for a lot of your crappy accusations about fake addresses in link form, you dolt. I asked what was fraudulent about what I just mentioned.

if you can't answer, don't. it's not an invitation to have an OCD episode.

more baseless claims, from a cornered rat. will it make you feel better to try to get my IRL identity? will that fill the void, WB? --because this isn't working.


customers make a purchase; AR supplies the essays on time. if the customer's satisfied, great. if not, they get free revisions. then, if everything turns out OK, the writers get paid. what's fraudulent about that? I'm still confused.

btw, did you see my original question? -- here it is again:

pigeon, lol. it's "pidgin..." and how's your English?

sounds like you're "challenged..." and if by "there," you're referring to Google, you should start with one of those free online dictionaries.

this makes no sense at all! how does anything I wrote suggest that I think I'm their only writer? I just wrote how they treat me as a writer. I assume they treat other writers the same way. many AR writers with good feedback make premium... are you implying that they would want to shoot themselves in the foot by scamming customers?

face it, WB, even though they are "only two" companies and not "many," as you suggest, they are glaring exceptions that don't belong on your list... and probably the tip of the iceberg! AR and EW are on the list for some reason... they're not scams. own up to something, for once, and then, maybe you can tell us why you're profiling these companies.

it's true-- EW and AR, while shady, aren't scams.

WB still doesn't know what a scam is. sometimes definitions are so cut and dry; it's easier to understand examples.

here, WB, let me help. a couple of years ago, I worked for a company in Manhattan. I got paid to make false promises. customers came into the office, and I took their money. when they left, I didn't help them, and I got paid anyway. these people paid for absolutely nothing. it was fun for a while, despite bad karma and high stress. it was a scam.

at AR, which is definitely not an American company, I write essays. people have instructions and set the price they're willing to pay. I get paid to write real essays. customers download my essays, and if they're not happy about them, they moan and complain, and I have to write them a free revision. I get paid to help them. they pay for essays, and that's what they get. it's fun, despite bad karma and occasional fines. it's not a scam.

do you understand?

a lot of those companies WB listed aren't even scams. some are scams, and are still raking it in. others are in a perpetual state of self-destruction-- all independent of WB's dedicated threads. maybe you should try stepping up your game a little, WB, so that you're not such a laughing stock.

you're right! I misread the title, and thought you were talking about "moronism"...


for your 1st question, experience is reality. if you don't trust a site, make a small order first-- 2 or 3 pages. it's like testing the waters.

2nd question-- there is still plenty of good news on essayscam.org. I post awesome things my bosses do, as well as the "ugly things" the troll claims I hold back. generally, the awesome things get deleted.

3rd question-- oh, hell yes. and when that happens, the customer usually becomes a loyal source of income. I don't want to brag, but I should have a couple of complete degrees by now, because of this. then again, not all writers even aim for As-- some customers want it dumbed down, so their professor doesn't catch them up on some silver dollar vocab word.


you're right-- like many others, I joined this forum not just to answer questions (based on my own experience), but to try and force WB to account for some of their garbage (based on public records and Google maps). I don't appreciate companies being called frauds unjustly, even when they aren't my employers... and when they are my employers, and the only thing they're guilty of is being located outside of the US, I want to defend them. I don't appreciate trolls, either, or give them quarter on websites that claim to be devoted to the industry in which I operate.

let me guess-- you also like crack cocaine, and putting storks in bottles.

it's a shame that no one in town likes you, and you have to live under the bridge. maybe it's because you're so crazy and unhappy. anyway, troll supreme, here is what you do.

1. get in months-long flame wars with anyone foolish or masochistic enough to put up with your dull, repetitive playground ranting

2. set up straw men

3. make appeals to imaginary authority (both your own and the mod's)

4. post scans of Yuri's speeding tickets (this will surely bring down EW... just wait)

5. pretend to cyber-stalk people

6. attack newbies

it's embarrassing, WB, because now you've proven yourself a closet troll... so, you're going to be the last one to know. once you've faced it, I hear there's a certain happiness in acceptance... good luck on your journey.

please don't feed the troll.

michael, my advice is to try arguing it. if I may ask, which administrator is fining you? don't worry about "naming names--" I think they are mostly fake.

WB... you nationalist crazy... why don't you do something useful? can I make a suggestion? go to the police and tell them that a Ukrainian ESL writer attacked you in a dark alley, confused you, and took your baby.

"he was tall and blonde, officer... very big... with sort of a... Kid N Play haircut... he was wearing boxing trunks, and right before he attacked, he said, in a deadpan voice, 'I will break you.'"

you might want to throw some acid on your own face, while you're at it.


"me Drago can no write, only break face."

hey lunatic-- speaking of proof checks-- where are your statistical sources on this one?

hold up-- you don't know me like that.


you were calling people "ESLs" before I corrected you, and now you'd like to play pretend... very well. it was your idea, WB. great idea. way to improve yourself.

nice job! --and so much less dehumanizing. you'll get my bill in a few weeks.


this no longer exists. it's all a big, global mix now. didn't you get the memo?


right... wait... they give a bad name to what industry?

what about an individual who works in concert with-- and profits from (Jesus, did you just use "profiteer" there? what a bunch of baroque garbage)-- a customer who s/he knows is going defraud their professor and university? every hack in this industry is an accomplice.

what's your problem with ELL, anyway? it's not their fault they didn't grow up speaking English. they're just trying to put bread on the table, like everybody else. why do you have to be such a troll!?

100% customer, is my guess-- and a total moron. after posting this, maybe they figured out that AR's phone number is all over their website.


good one, but AR's Premium writers are advanced through customer feedback. it's true-- AR hires just about everyone; not everyone gets over the hurdle, though.

sometimes the customer supplies a username and password, which gives access to university websites with EBSCO, Lexis-Nexis, etc. I have never received access directly from an employer-- those databases charge a lot.

yes, it's true. FWC is claiming to fine on a case-by-case basis, rather than as a blanket policy, as if this excuses their fining writers without also offering attendant financial rewards.


this is unclear to me. could you tell me in another way?

whatever, you either have the juice, or you don't. you can't blame it on culture. English is a global language.

my least favorite type of customer is the know-it-all who is "too busy," and demands oversight over every last paragraph of the essay, with the attitude that they could have done it tons better, if only they weren't so busy...

to this type of sweat hog customer, if you happen to be reading, I'd like to ask: you what the hell are you using a writing service for, if you already think you know everything? you know what I know? your university pass-code!

these are charming answers, and they also illustrate another reason: people may know the material, but can't get the English idiom quite right. writing papers is also something that does not really carry across cultures sometimes-- many Asians have trouble with Western citation styles, for example, because their whole academic quotation system is much different.

as a pro term paper hack, I understand that there are different gray areas, each with attendant excuses.

if you are going to live in a glass house, better proof your posts!


until turnitin.com, they did so much more freely. this is yet another reason that turnitin is the bane of the writing industry, from the writer/owner side.

for the student side, I have a request: go to your professor, express concern about the legal copyright status of your papers, and ask for help with opting out of turnitin.

who has the time to read all that crap?

do you work for AR? NO.

you don't write for AR anymore... you have no right to post anti AR propaganda. AR does not belong on that list.

I know that it sucks for some customers to get a writer who was not screened right. but what does that mean to me, as a writer? this is a thread about writers. AR pays their writers. they don't fine excessively, and admin are reasonable. they consistently have lots of orders, even during off seasons, and the pay is slightly higher than standard for Premium writers. it's also relatively easy to become Premium.

WRT-- you can't beat or join them-- what else can you do? oh, right-- slander them randomly and anonymously on the internet. well... it's embarrassing.

good luck keeping yourself in check in the future. you're better when you come barking in after WB. sorry-- you don't work for AR anymore, and you don't know what you're talking about.