You are asking me to cite sources for your own research. That's kinda lazy don't ya think? I do not know your exact sources - which company do you have a subscription? I don't know. Do you actually know how to find the info without paying? Don't know, but I doubt it. You tell us.

Cite your sources and tell us which usernames I have used. I'll be more than happy to share my correspondence with essayscam admin after you give it a shot. But I suspect that you are either bluffing or grasping at straws. Either way, your credibility as an exposer of scams has come to an end.

You have not yet given us proof that the site, thecasesolutions.com, is perpetrating a scam. Yes, they are guilty of some crap web copy, questionable history, and maybe some illegal (only in certain states) statements; however, I don't see what scams they have committed.

On the basis of your 'evidence' and standards, you and Major are as much of scammer as anybody else on this forum. Why should we trust you guys? There's no reason.

Proof? I thought that you had superior research skills and that you had nothing to do with the folks who run this forum.

I do have the right to ask. Aside from being in a free country, I am a researcher who knows a thing or two. When you provide "evidence," you must also provide the source. Basic research 101, not to mention what the ambulance chasers would demand.

So, you can't cite your source and you have no idea which usernames are mine (I've agreed to abandon the other two last month, both of which I hardly used - I am willing to share the exchange with the admin/mods/whoever they are). Seems like you have no credibility as a researcher or as the exposer of scams.

You have no evidence that the site, thecasesolutions.com, is a scam other than some old whois data. Maybe they are ESLers - doesn't mean they can't provide a service and it certainly doesn't show that they are scammers. Proof and source? You have nothing.

Why can't you tell everyone how you find it?

And which two usernames would those be?

You better run Spiderman. Captain Obvious is hot on your trail. Keep pushing your luck and she'll bust out the all-caps, bold, and italic font all at once. All we need is for Doctor Major to administer a test, then you'll be run out of business for sure.

I don't have a problem with the information - you are correct. But who are you protecting? Some idiot who can't figure how to read web copy? Good job!

Yep, I see a couple of wolves in sheep's clothing going to great lengths to state the obvious, again, and argue with m-s as if any of it matters. I also see a bunch of m-s fighting to take dumb clients from ESLers so they can sell their own crap writing skills.

Why are you posting this here?

Bump: Just in case anybody needs reminded about the time that Major defended a site a Writers2Beware has exposed "long ago" as a scam.

So it pleases you to overlook that Major has defended this scam site, represented by VernonBarth, that you have personally identified.

I love how how this thread keeps getting altered.

But this is a representative of the same company that Major defended after I ordered a paper from his company. Major accused me of being illegally deceptive by exposing their crap services. You said not a word. NOW he is a spamming, scamming, lying piece of s-i*? What is it with you guys? Why aren't you attacking Major for defending Vernon Barth and Essaythinker?

I doubt that the professor made you any promises. Even if the professor did make a strong sell to beef up his enrollment, you just learned a valuable lesson: never bet on what somebody else says is a sure thing. You'll lose every time.

Burger flipping sounds like a job? What's wrong with that? What's wrong with starting at the bottom and working your way up? You sound like one of these college students that expects to by making 50k plus straight out of college. Sorry man, it does not work like that.

What are you talking about? Hire you to do what? Write? There are cliques in academic, but it doesn't seem that is what you are describing here.

And don't listen to ed75 - he's not one that should be talking about respect.

Ah, VernonBarth, the student with the essaythinker.net signature bar. Could you write me another essay?

Oh, that clarifies everything. Ed75 - I've got a nice home in downtown Detroit to sell you at a good price. It's a steal.

I think that much is clear given that you submitted a plagiarized paper directly from an essay mill.

So you've been negotiating for five days and you still can't give us any details (without naming names)? Are you negotiating a peace agreement? And you are going to expose the writer if negotiations fail? I call BS.

You may certainly have been scammed, but I suspect that you may be one of these clients who doesn't know what they want. Maybe it will ultimately prove to be bad business practice for me, but I usually just politely decline, and refer them elsewhere, when it becomes clear that the client is just kicking tires with their hands in empty pockets.

I think that you are a seriously weird dude.

I can't help but chime in about the goat I sacrificed to break into this business. W2B will be furious to know that I am bullying you, so please don't tell her.

So you never get paid, do you? By the way, I like the illeism.

I think this is something that, for the first time, something that we can agree upon. Maybe we can be in cahoots sometime? That would be lovely.

And you came here with good reason. The following is from EssayScam's Linked in page. Sounds really nice, doesn't it? Ha!

Digging through old posts as Writers2Beware has requested. I find this statement above to be a real gem. You really have to read A LOT of posts, comments, and general nastiness to finally see that she is playing dumb here. Why does she use so much vitriol? To cover her tracks, of course. Why cover here tracks. That remains to be discovered. It could just be that she is insane, but I won't dare to make any claims about this yet.

Once upon a time, Writers2Beware was adding essayfraud links to Wikipedia. My proof is that her style of writing here matches exactly that of what is found here: en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SarahTeach&oldid=41165407

Yes, I know that others have brought this up in the past and they have been shot down by WritersBeware; however, I take the striking similarities in "combative" writing styles to be evidence that SarahTeach and Writes2Beware are the same person. She'll disagree, of course, but the similarities are impossible to deny. Whoever cares to do so, should judge for themselves. There is a lot more interesting bread crumbs to be found, but it quickly slide into highly speculative crap (as Writers2Beware will quickly point out).

The real issue here is Writers2Beware's economic interests. She claims, as did EssayFraud, and now EssaScam, to be working to expose essay fraud and scams. Why? Why does she do this? If she is truly a consumer advocate, then why hide behind anonymous screen identities? You would think that someone doing this out of concern for innocent students wouldn't mind sharing a bit more about her motivations.

Clearly, EssayScam acts like fly paper for scammers. They are truly making a stupid mistake by coming here. Its like shooting fish in a barrel. But why does Writers2Beware inhabit these waters and with so much effort?

It's also a bit weird that she claims to be helping innocent students. Nearly all of them are turned off by her demeanor, and with good reason. So she really can't, and nor should we, that she is here to help out the students and fight plagiarism. Why not devote you efforts to something more insidious?

Why does she do it on an essay company-owned forum that simultaneously claims to be for entertainment, a place for all to discuss to experiences and views, and a place to expose scammers? Read this on their linked-in page, "EssayScam.org was founded to enable academic freelance writers, all other essay-writing companies, and students, to discuss their experiences and views in a free, anonymous web forum" and then compare it to their terms while thinking about what actually goes on here. It alls seems at least a bit schizophrenic, and definitely suspicious.

Yes, suspicious. It's not a claim in and of itself that demands proof. It is a claim that what happens here is very sketchy. We do not know anything about Writers2Beware other than she is an anonymous web entity who is hell-bent on viciously attacking obvious scammers. Why not just maintain a list of scam sites? Why not create a wiki on how to identify scam sites - seem easy enough. No, Writers2Beware has to do it the hard way with a lot of words that end up being no use to the students that she claims to be protecting. As this post shows, she also does it by playing dumb when it suits here interests (whatever those may be).

Are you like this in real life?

You have bullied everybody in every interaction with every member on this forum. The proof is there for anybody to see. Here's your proof: every post by W2B.

Okay, good.

Now, why would Major get upset that I followed his advice on purchasing a paper from sites advertised in the banner? The two of you continue ignore the fact that this was his idea.


Nope. I walked into a bar fight and punched the biggest bully right in the nose.

Major, why are you saying that your own test is worthless?


Just answer the questions. Or are you afraid?

Can you see that Major is defending the quality of the paper I purchased from Essaythinker.com?
Can you see that Major is defending Essaythinker.com?

Nope. I clearly said that I concluded editor75 is a hapless dolt. No offense intended ed75, its not your fault.

W2B, So you haven't seen that Major is defending his essay that I purchased from him?

I finally answered one of your questions. So I think it is only fair that you answer these simple questions:
Can you see that Major is defending the quality of the paper I purchased from Essaythinker.com?
Can you see that Major is defending Essaythinker.com?

Two option for an answer: yes or no.

If you can give a straight answer to these questions, then what does that say about you?

W2B, you can't answer my questions without being caught in a lie, can you?

I'd like to get an outside opinion. I have clearly exposed you guys, but you're doing your thing where you bury the truth in a bunch of words.

But hey, keep it coming.

Despite what you (W2B) may say about me, you are still a major player on a site that blatantly advertises and protects exposed scammers. On the surface it looks like you are pissing into the wind. But after a close read, you are not really all that concerned about exposing scammers, otherwise you would attack the source, which is EssayScam. Need proof that this is the source? Look at the ads in the banner, then come back here and I'll sell you slightly used essay for cheap.

Who's your ghostwriter?

Dear W2B,

1) I am not ignoring that. I'm just calling it insignificant.

2) I'd have you do nothing. Also, here's an example where you have made an incorrect statement (you asked): I do have evidence and presented a very strong and compelling case.

3) Here's another place where you have made a false statement. I never asked for your cooperation.

Look, let's just get to brass tacks. Its been fun and I've learned a lot. Thanks for the website critique. It truly was helpful. I also appreciate the insight that you and the others have provided. I'm on an accelerated track here and don't have time to search through all of the muddy water in this forum and elsewhere. In some strange way, I am truly indebted to you all.

So here's the deal: I do believe that the owners/moderators of EssayScam.org, W2B, and Major and a maybe a few others are second-rate scammers, thieves, con men, and what not. I believe this to be true and there is no amount of arguing with me that will change this. There is no reason for me to believe otherwise. Editor75 is guilty of being a hapless dolt, so he gets a pass.

You all can keep on arguing with me if you like. Maybe EssayScam will ban me at some point. I don't care. My plan has already been set in motion.

I know that you all think that I was sent here and all of that nonsense. The truth is that I am a lightening rod that nobody wants to touch. I have my plans and hidden agenda (you get 10% off a reach around from W2B if guess what that is). So keep it coming. You're just fueling my engine.


There's no good attributes to be found in some people. I'm looking at you!

See. Nothing makes you happy. You are still complicit in this scam and still refuse to address the topic of this thread.


There is no "best of you" to get.

On the contrary, the chain of events are completely relevant. I told you that I found you offensive before you found me offensive.

Say what you will, but you are still guilty by omission regarding the topic of this thread. Why do you focus on me when there is a real scam afoot? Hmmm, maybe it is because you are in on the scam?

By the way, I was the poor kid from the trailer park who got picked on by jerks who talked just like you write. Occasionally, I would turn around and break someone's nose. I would take on the big guys, jocks, and that sort and they would kick my ass, but I would hurt them bad enough that they would never mess with me again.

Why do you always go back to who said what at what time. Its always, "You did this First!" Did it ever occur to you that I found you offensive first? I found you to be offensive before I even created an account.

Okay, I'll give you an answer, but I guarantee that you won't like it or find it acceptable:

I attacked you for stating the obvious. You are almost never wrong because you are nearly always stating the obvious. I think that the way you do this stinks to hell and back of dishonesty. I also attacked you because of your awful attitude. Your behavior is inexcusable.

I continue to attack you because you can scream about all the other obvious scams, ad infinitum, while turning a blind eye to what has recently transpired with respect to Major. Even without Major, you have failed to participate in any meaningful critique of the paid essays I have posted - this also stinks of dishonesty.

I continue to attack you because I find your argument style to be deceptive and slimey. You argument style is reminiscent of an ambulance chasing lawyer. Nobody likes that.

Let me guess, you're not satisfied with my honest answer?

I predicted that you would say such a thing. I actually prefer 'white trash', if you can muster another insult. Also, I've yet to here any insults to my mother. Are you saving that for a special post?

Shall I get you a shovel?

I am a defrauded client. I bought and paid for an essay from your company. It is not what I ordered. The final product is not what was promised to me. By rights, I deserved a refund. However, by your reasoning, I need to posses a student ID in order to qualify as defrauded. This was not in your terms of service.

It doesn't matter who paid for the essay.

It is clear that I was defrauded and EssayScam still insists on holding adverts for you and these other fraudsters. It's really quite amazing.

Shall I remind you again that this was your idea to purchase an essay as a test? You instigated this situation. You directly advised me to purchase an essay from your company as a test. How many different ways do I need to say this. I've already quoted you directly. Do I need to do it again? I'm already doing it for W2B, so go look at those posts if you need another perspective.

Analogies are not your strong suit and are not really needed here. I ordered and paid for a product that failed to meet any academic standards. What is so hard to understand about that? Why do you need to muddy the waters by questioning my incentives, especially when the incentives were endorsed directly by you.

It is true that there is an added dimension that I am a writer. I'm not just some guy writing a review, and neither are you or anybody else here. Everybody here has an economic stake in the game. Additionally, and contrary to what you may believe, I want clients who appreciate a writer who has a nose for BS. These aren't your clients and they never will be.

Your insistence that we are competitors does not hold water. We are not in the same league.

Shall I remind you again that the name of this site is EssayScam and that you and your cronies spend a lot of time exposing scams? Then you have the nerve to tell me that I can't expose scams from your company.

Do you really want the truth for why I am here and why I am taking time to argue with scammers like you? I'll give you one hint: It is not to compete with you and the other ESLers.

So you still don't think it is fair for me to expose a scam essay on EssayScam. And your defense of this position is to accuse me of wrongful self-promotion and accepting money in return for quality work when you take advantage of students who shouldn't even be in college.

You've put me in the situation of handing you your own ass after painting yourself into a corner. Not good for you. Good thing we're not doing this in person, because I'm sure that you would take a swing at me.

That's some funny stuff Major. And again, W2B, clear admission of guilt via defense of a scammer.

Let's suppose for a moment, that you and your sites are actually legit. In that case and at the danger of sounding elitist, I do not and will not do that kind of low-level work. The sites fast essay and essay thinker can have those kinds of clients attracted to that kind of web copy. I don't want them.

But you guys are scammers, so therefore I am definitely not competition. You guys are not in my league.

And the analogy of the New York Times does not apply - you're a scammer-hack and I am a true writer with real credentials and publications to my name.

Defending the scam sites, defending the paper, expressing anger over the execution of his proposed test essay order, complaint about the technical level of the second essay before I revealed what I had done, claiming that low quality essays are okay and to be expected, and driving at the academic level of the paper are all acknowledgements of his complicity in the scam.

Also, you've said nothing of the fact the essay in question has been removed.

I think the operative word here is collusion. I say this because you will continue to be obtuse, twist my words, ignore the evidence, shift the argument, and make a few explitives.

The proof for this admission of guilt is staring you dead in the face in this very thread. I expect you to offer a different interpretation, so there is no point in proving anything to you or for you to launch an investigation.

I'll go further and add that your dead silence on Major, his defense of scam sites, and his defense of the obviously horrible essay is a statement of your own guilt as a person who actively aids and abets essay scammers. You've done a nice job of pretending to be a vigilante, but I think that your gig is up. Again, you are a scammer.