Tell me something I don't know. By the way, why does this work-for-hire law not apply to customers ordering the paper? For this reason, work-for-hire should be established for private customers, but this will be unethical, too, as the students will be free to submit the same papers.

The writing companies do not allow the customers to


and state:


My point is: most of the customers who order their essays are either too busy to writer their papers, or, do not possess enough writing skills. If the papers are written just for their help, and they need to write at their own, why should they order it from the writing company for such a high price? There are plenty of free research works they can take help from. Aren't the prices so high? Secondly, what is the point of not reselling the paper for few months when the company is entitled to copyright? Why does it give a cause for offense if the company publishes the paper at the same time as sending it to the customer. Maybe this is because the company knows that the students will turn their papers in under their own names. If they are not given the rights to submit the papers as these are, why should the students pay more to check the papers for plagiarism?

I am neither against the laws, nor am I in favor of plagiarism. I am just pointing out the confusing parts that make this industry look unethical.

why does the company retain the copyright when a freelance writer writes the paper. The copyright transfers to the company for a price less than a customer pays. :S

Isn't it $750?

Congrats. You did it. Now you can contact anyone you want. Cheers!

PS: Can I rest assured that you won't try to help anyone out?

LMAO!

No way!


Just one more useless post with "I can help you out." or, "How can I contact you?" or, both.

There is a risk involved in everything. Even the legit writing companies pay their writers after receiving a lot of work done. Isn't it the risk for writers? Just look at the case of Hala.


I agree with you to a certain extent. I prefer a small percentage of total amount, or, as little as $20 in advance. The rest of the amount the customers can pay after getting the work done. How much of a risk is involved in the transaction when I know customers can't resist paying for what they receive from me? Customers will definitely pay if the work is done as desired. I have never had such an experience of not getting paid by a customer.


I think you are mixing up the standards of writing companies to those of writers. Writers working for the writing companies are never paid upfront even their accounts are credited the amount they are owed.

Baseless opinions and evaluation can never be facts, EFL pot.

Your own stated facts (bulls-i*). Go away!

Oops! WildBoar got flamed. Lol!

It is not surprising that you couldn't detect the sense of refined humor in my post. The student, in fact, sensed.
How's your little business doing? i saw you are now spamming essaychat 'livechat', attempting to snare unsuspecting students. I will of course be starting a new thread, warning students about your dirty, unethical past. As long as you continue with your uncalled for, baseless attacks against me, i will make sure you'll never get a client from this forum or from essaychat.

Now, that is my guarantee.

Lol! Stu4, you are too much.

I understand your concern, FreelanceWriter. The point is: I take few orders a month and complete them with the best of my abilities and knowledge. The customers like the quality (may be for them), the content, and especially the flow of the paper. This is because I have extensive knowledge of the topic I am writing on, and which is why I have returning customers. Is that because the customers are really dumb? or their tutors who grade the papers are uneducated? Why do they like my work? See, I clearly tell my clients that I am an ESL writer, and they really have no problem with it.

An ESL writer needs practice, and for that the one has to stay in this industry. (<<That is my opinion.) Money is not the motivational factor for me as I own a brokerage firm and earn far more than what I earn from students for writing their papers. I am engaged in this business because I am qualified (CFA) and have passion for writing. I just love it. I want to learn English language to the level of a native writer. I don't know if it will happen or not. If I leave the industry, that won't benefit me, and my connection with the industry won't harm anyone in any way. I think, honesty, quality of product and improvement in quality are the concerns.

PS: Please do not think I am lying, or expressing commendation for myself.


He is not being racist, idiot. It is about honesty. He was explaining to me and I got his point.

Yes. You are right. Thanks for replying.

You are right. I agree.


This practice is unethical in any case, and does not need any reason to be opposed.


This is confusing, though. If the writing of an ESL writer is easily "recognizable", how can customers remain unaware of the identity and skills of the writer they are going to hire?

What is the point of being "it" when I know you won't agree? Even if it is pheeLeaks or Freelancewriter, you will suspect their sanity. Isn't it? Lol!

Bingo!

If you judge others' qualifications only on the basis of English language, then you are no more than a restless wanker. I am in no way responsible for your illiteracy and inadequacy.

First, I have never claimed that there is nothing wrong with an ESL writer who has not learned English correctly. At least, I am gaining from what I "have learned" and "am still learning". I am an ESL writer and my clients know it. You yourself claim that native-speakers can quickly recognize if the writer is a native- or nonnative-speaker. The clients pick me for writing their papers, knowing that I am an ESL writer. They themselves are ESL students. Where does the problem lie? Let the students who I write papers for judge my abilities. My clients are happy for what they get from me, and they know how much qualified I am.

Secondly, I have never offered my services to you, so you better rest in peace. I am really comfortable with writing papers for students who want me to write for them. And that's none of your business. Cheer up!


Actually, I never lick your boots. In fact, I hit your head with your own dirty boots, and then put them in your slobbering mouth. Therein lies the problem for you, ignorant tom-fool.


What if you come across a paper handed in by an ESL student, but seems to be written by a native writer? Would you not suspect he/she has outsourced the work?

This is because of some pudding-heads who do not understand the requirements of being able to write academic papers. They feel the need to produce "Shakespeares" in this industry, albeit the students they are writing for are not experts themselves. Secondly, ESL writers have given so much importance to these EFL crackpots by portraying themselves as native-writers. ESL writers should be proud of themselves, if they can write quality papers that meet the clients' requirements.

Really?

Lol!

Related: Information about how long it takes to receive a reply from a research company?

"Just a quick question for those of you who are experienced/time served essay company writers .

How long (on average) does it take for a new applicant to receive a reply from most companies after hitting the submit button ?

I know that this forum doesn't allow specific information about individual firms so i'm just asking for a ball-park figure .

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps."

Any company that delays their reply is not worth investing in. They should have 24/7 customer care services to direct you to an available writer immediately. The longest they should take I think is 6 hours. otherwise, their delivery may not be so good.

That was not for letting you know, by the way. There are many other things that you never know.

Your. Please don't call it a typo. How many times do others have to correct this repeated mistake? When will you learn it?

First you provide the evidence for my lack of qualifications. Pointing out punctuation mistakes is not the evidence. Lol


Well, my sentence does not seem to be wrong.

You are a big liar. You always have problem with ESL writers, unless they admit that you are more qualified and competent than they actually are.

As a matter of fact, qualifications do not mean English should be learnt to the level of proficiency of a native speaker. I am an ESL writer and admit that I make mistakes. Still I can write far more better than you as I am entirely "qualified" to write on the topics of my area of expertise, and with original ideas that come from me not anywhere from the internet. I have deep knowledge of what I am writing, which is why, unlike you, I do not paraphrase the material taken from information sources. This is the advantage of "qualification" which you do not possess.

You are wrong, idiot.

They are not actually mistakes. When I write my posts, unlike you, I do not spend a hell of time on editing them, but academic papers need proofreading. My word usage is not awkward as yours, by the way.

Yeah fine. As you like it to be written for you. By the way, I have many times highlighted mistakes in your posts.


Show me the proof, or accept you are a filthy liar. The problem is you are suffering from inferiority complex.

Amnateeb: pheeleaks is an unqualified cretin whose writing sucks.
pheeleaks: Evidence?
Amnateeb: Refer to you posts.
pheeleaks: This is not an evidence.

pheeleaks: Amnateeb's writing skills are substandard.
Amnateeb: Where is your evidence now?
pheeleaks: Your posts are the evidence.
WildBoar: Refer to your posts.
Amnateeb: This is not an evidence.

WildBoar: Amnateeb used "big" words incorrectly.
Amnateeb: I did not. In fact, I have seen a huge sample of pheeleaks writing on this very forum. He uses obscure words and convoluted sentences that seem to be awkward for academic and technical writing. He should learn what technical writing is.

Yeah. All of them say you are an idiot. Lol

Of course, you won't say you like these "big" words uttered for you. I know you native-speakers do not consider non-native speakers' word usage. By the way, I correctly used the words... perfectly suit you.


You keep saying this without any proof. Do you have a proof for my lack of qualifications? You liar! You poor soul cannot prove anything, but that you yourself are ignorant ass.

For your information, education does not mean learning English to the level of native speakers. It is just fine with me and students who want me to write their papers. I clearly tell them about my identity, location and background. Those who are more concerned about the content, select me and are quite happy with what I provide them. I write papers on the topics that come in my area of expertise. So you have no choice, but to believe it. Ya illiterate, dishonest, spamming idiot.

This proves why you have been referred to as an idiot. Well if you wanted me to produce original work, you could simply have asked for that. I would charge a small price for that. You did not ask, though, I am willing to show a sample of my work.

WildBoar, you are a pathetic, wretched, ugly liar whose incongruous behavior and atrocious personality make this forum lousy for some honest and helpful people here. Your cruddy disposition shows your rotten mental attitude and filthy nature are patently due to the hidden detest you have deep inside your heart for others who are qualified and competent, just because you are an ignorant, spoofing prevaricator who cannot stand to fairly compete with them. It suits pheeLeaks as well as he belongs to the same category. "My statements are not true just because you said it" cannot be considered. Period.

WritersBeware, you're an idiot.

I always say this about you, cockamamie, but you never believe. Your mental attitude is really ludicrously skeptical here on the forum. You proceed with the debate like "People have to provide evidence as to how my writing sucks, but I won't agree if they refer to my posts and I can refer to their posts to claim that their writing sucks". It's your problem, pudding head.

How silly! Every time you do not have any idea of what the argument is about. Come on pheeLeaks, you need to concentrate on things being discussed.

Well, I believe the dog part as I know your own existence is the proof. When did you ever have the opportunity to see a little piece of my writing except my posts?

Evidence for all your outrageous claims! I am sure you can't provide any. You slimy little liar!

Evidence?

You think dogs write? What about you then? Bark and lick and then write. Hey, you write with tongue or tail? I think tail, which is why you can't see what you are writing. Hmm..

Wow! You licked it more effectively than a dog.

How do you feel in your rock?


Lick the spittle you think is covering my screen! I will try to throw it again for you, farting ass.

You have been habitual to asking for evidences that you have started providing uncalled for evidences for established facts. LMAO!


Yeah. I know that you could not even understand what that was about.


You are nowhere in a position to judge as you are "unqualified". Having two useless English degrees never means you can understand and write on other topics, too. Idiot.

You two have provided evidence for the fact that you are marked by lack of intellectual acuity. Could you please shed light on the people you mostly write for? You imbeciles have no idea of the people academic writers write for. The students themselves are not experts at writing, which is why they need professional writers for their assignments. Good English with good grammar, spelling and punctuation is expected or considered obligatory. If you write their academic papers in English language using much convoluted sentences, they may require great effort to comprehend what you have written, in case they try to make changes in the written paper to make it in accordance with their style of writing before handing it in. It's regarded as a complete loss of money for such students. Even if they hand in it without editing, they may be suspected by their tutors who can judge the capabilities of the students.

I have read the useless essay written by pitiable pheeLeaks for hapless biscuit, which was really pathetic as it did not meet the client's requirements. In business, customers' preferences are given top consideration. Moreover, a product is declared as of good quality, which meets customers' requirements and demands.

First and foremost, a writer should fully understand the requirements and he/she should have extensive knowledge of the topic he/she is going to write on. Secondly, the writer should possess excellent research skills, and keep in mind the reliability and relevance of the information sources to be used. I agree to the argument that a writer should clearly tell the clients about his/her identity and abilities. If the student himself/herself is a non-native speaker, he/she plainly has no problem with the quality provided by a competent non-native writer.

I see... You mean you write your own papers. Good job!