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AdvancedWriter   
Jan 15, 2019

Some of those companies do a fairly good job of presenting themselves as legitimate on their websites

For very many of these 'companies', this 'presenting themselves' is the only thing they invest in, and heavily at that

especially to consumers who have grown up routinely ordering goods and services online

Exactly. The average new student determining whether to engage the services of an unknown online writing company probably makes up his/her mind in under 3 mins on visiting the website, mostly relying on aesthetics and ignoring the crucial telltale details
AdvancedWriter   
Dec 17, 2018
Essay Services / Best Private writers [27]

the ones available on Twitter, FB, and Instagram are not very reliable

Gross understatement. Given how much those social forums have been flooded with peddlers of "writing services" over the last decade, it is nearly impossible for a student to safely pick a genuine--let alone competent--writer who will deliver.
AdvancedWriter   
Dec 06, 2018

There are more than a few ESL sites where a writer can earn more than $1000 a month. The writer doesn't need to go independent if that's the monthly target (which is very modest, in my opinion). S/he just needs to find the right site that won't rip him/her off once payment period comes around.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 28, 2018
Writing Careers / What should off-shore writers do? [22]

Working is never a crime

Very wrong. Nearly all crimes involve some sort of work

Working for an academic company is not a crime

You are generalizing here while the original question was asking about knowingly working for a company that misrepresents itself to clients and cheats (some of) its employees.

offering a valuable service that does not have a negative effect on anyone

Again, you are missing the point of the whole thread. Surely there's a negative effect on cheated employees and clients who've been lied to.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 26, 2018

Why in the world would anyone change from the writing company that delivered satisfactorily the first time? For a student, finding a company that meets expectations is the ultimate jackpot. There's no need buying another lottery ticket. It's far too risky. What would be the purpose anyway? It's not like picking a restaurant or a vacation destination where there's added value in a new experience.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 23, 2018

I can't assess the usefulness of a thread

I never said you can't. I'm saying you can't impose your assessment on everybody else.

I'm "stupid"

Oh dear God. I never implied you are "stupid". I was just turning it around on you--playfully, I might add--to make my point. Not that it matters, but it was actually you who used the word first. Check above.

you in your infinite wisdom

Is this really necessary? Surely we can debate without such, right?

are generally pretty clueless about this industry

Then call them out for this right here, publicly. Every instance they demonstrate how clueless they are is an opportunity to highlight it, while neutralizing (at least somehow) their apparent motive for posting.

As someone who has been here for a while, I tend to give myself the benefit of a doubt about what is and what is not relevant to students

And you are probably mostly right, but that's not the point.

I don't purport to have

but is there

AdvancedWriter   
Nov 23, 2018

trying to revive old threads just for the purpose of getting your post count up

So is it the motive behind the act that you have an issue with, and not the act itself? If so then your position is even harder to hold.

in my view at least

And nobody should try to muffle this view, no matter how 'stupid' they might think it is.

there was a thread where

Could it be that the thread stands out so much because they (threads that 'need no more input') are so rare?

a client asked for advice about a specific order from a site

There's a reason the client came to the forum for advice instead of simply communicating with the site's Customer Support team. That reason has probably caused other students to need the same advice that that client needed more than a decade ago. The specific details may differ but--very often--similar underlying causes trigger visits to the forum by different students.

completely useless information - who benefits from this, I wonder?

Completely useless information doesn't benefit anyone anywhere, let alone here. But it is this usefulness--and not time of posting--that should be the measure of a post's appropriateness.

How can a discussion about a company that is no longer in operation be relevant to anyone?

Who said it can? You must have misread something.

there are ways to assess relevancy objectively

Very true.

I was stating that clearly irrelevant, meaningless, and utterly obtuse comments on decades' old threads were not good practice. You disagree?

I agree 100%.
What I disagree with is the notion that it is a select few (not pointing fingers) who get to define the meaning of "irrelevant", "meaningless", and "utterly obtuse". I also take issue with the connection of those definitions to time elapsed since a thread's original post.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 23, 2018

a student asks about a specific element of essay writing

There will (almost) always be a forum user in the exact position the OP was in at the time of posting

a company that no longer exists

unless the subject being discussed has since seized to exist

The responses he/she got over the first month, or two months, inform the student about everything

Who is to say when enough has been shared

posts that were completely irrelevant

All posts relevant to a thread

posts that were completely wrong

That is left to the judgment of the beholder

AdvancedWriter   
Nov 22, 2018

EssayScam exists mainly to expose fraudsters in the essay writing world and to protect students from other related hazards.
The format that ES uses is near-perfect, IMO. Once a thread starts, forum members contribute to it with (often) relevant posts and without unreasonable restrictions. As long as forum rules are observed, no post is taken down for being deemed unworthy. That is left to the judgment of the beholder.

Passionate WritersWhat I might not agree with is the notion by some forum members that threads exhaust their relevance. WRONG. A clueless student seeking academic writing assistance today needs all relevant info about XYZ.com as did a student 5 years ago. Actually, recent and updated forum contributions are even more useful to a visitor than posts from years back. What is true today might not be true tomorrow. A site that is dependable and legit today might prove unreliable after a few years.

See, if I respond to a question someone posted 10 years ago, I'm not necessarily expecting that particular person to benefit from my response. I'm rather addressing the issue raised within the post. This is a public forum utilized by entities with ongoing--pretty much unchanged--interests. There will (almost) always be a forum user in the exact position the OP was in at the time of posting.

Many veteran forum members have been reiterating that students and new users should not take the word(s) of any poster at face value. They (new users) ought to verify claims made here before arriving at their own conclusions. As such, shouldn't they be provided with all possible maps and tools with which to try find and dig for the truth? Who is to say when enough has been shared, or when sharing should no longer be allowed?

All posts relevant to a thread should be welcomed, regardless of the time of posting.
IMO, any thread that was not off-topic 10 years ago can still find relevance today, unless the subject being discussed has since (somehow) seized to exist (...and even then...)!
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 22, 2018

If you were just busy, then you have very poor time management skills.

It doesn't make much sense judging a student for needing academic writing services, more so right in this forum. Several analogies to that come to mind, none of them polite.

What with his not taking the company's word for it

Take the word of a company that sent a 100% plagiarized paper?

The attitude of this student really sounds like he knew exactly what to do upon receiving the document.

Are you blaming the student for knowing exactly what to do? That's what has always been advocated for in this forum.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 22, 2018
Essay Services / DO NOT USE ADVANCEDWRITERS.COM [27]

One would have to know much more about this industry to recognize some of the obvious BS in their promises and guarantees.

Therein lies the problem. The average student doesn't even come close to being able to sniff out the BS in the assurances given by most of these websites nowadays. We know better because we're in too deep to be fooled. But a student looking to get a paper completed is (in some ways) not much different from any other online customer. Actually, the differences work against the student.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 22, 2018

They should not be giving the writer access to their school or other academic website information.

You underestimate how lazy some students can be. There are often instances when students give full access to their profiles/accounts in academic portals to have writers complete several projects for them.

Even if they did, which I do not advice, they should have had the common sense to change their passwords and email address accounts as soon as the assignment was completed.

This wouldn't protect against someone with ill motives from the get-go. They can retrieve students' details and info on other contacts with just a single visit to the profile.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 22, 2018

(I can't comment about AcademicSciences, since I don't know much about them. I'm just addressing quoted statement)
The game of companies falsely claiming to be based in the UK has evolved beyond blatant lies. Most of them actually have addresses in the UK, but not in the way they want to portray. The address is a post office box hired out in the name of either the company or the company formation agency that registered it.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 22, 2018

Most (nearly all) review sites specific to academic writing are fake. They are set up by the essay companies they endorse.
On the other hand, the independent review platforms are very unreliable. Very few of them have in place the necessary measures to verify customer testimonials. Anybody can claim anything about any company with no risk of interrogation.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 20, 2018
Essay Services / HOW to find a legitimate writer? [21]

Whether it's a freelancer or writers at essay-companies, you're right about all of the best and brightest writers likely being "booked solid" for any 6-hour turnaround on 4,500 words

It's true. During the peak season, the best writers are usually on very high demand. It might be hard to get one willing to take on such a project with such a short deadline.

Honestly though, students in such a position-however they found themselves there-are better off with an essay company than with a freelancer. Essay companies have several options regarding how to handle a rush delivery. In the companies that I've written for, whenever an urgent order is placed, they immediately publish it with a very attractive rate that is normally higher than nearly all other orders being worked on by each writer at the time (all other factors kept constant). As much as all good writers are normally busy with previously taken orders, there's a high chance that at least some will be tempted to take the urgent project and reorganize their schedule to fit it in. But even if none of them take it, the company knows which writers can be approached directly and persuaded-with whatever incentives-to take it on. They (the company) can even decide to forego significant portions of the margins on that specific order just to come through for the client, a sacrifice that would not make much sense to a freelancer.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 20, 2018
Essay Services / Academic Paper Files [10]

@Write Review
A competent, honest, and reliable writer should not have a problem staying afloat. But there are other aspects of this business that a freelancer needs to understand in order to be successful. One of these is patience. It takes time to create and develop a good reputation in this industry. It is not only essay companies that rely on a good brand name. I think a good name is equally -if not more--indispensable to a freelancer as to an essay company.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 20, 2018

You can't find a safe website within a few days

I don't agree with you on this. I believe that utilizing this forum and using some of its features effectively can direct anyone to a safe and reliable website in a matter of minutes, even for someone visiting this forum for the first time.

You have to start looking for the reliable company and writer while you are attending summer school or at least, try to get attached to one over the summer.

This is relevant only to those students planning in advance to engage essay writing services. I'm sure veteran freelance writers often encounter instances where circumstances and emergencies are what push students to seek writing services. Not all can plan weeks or months ahead.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 20, 2018

It's hard to understand why a professional writer would accept to put in any effort into an order yet to be paid for. When I look through the inquiries I receive, I normally know that not all of them are genuine students looking to pay for my services. Responding to each-in the knowledge that only some will convert to paying clients-takes discipline. The maximum effort I can put into an unpaid order is looking through its details and requirements enough to provide a fitting quote.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 20, 2018

@tutors india
They don't care that their services don't suit the customers they target. They're looking to capitalize on a lucrative market they don't have what it takes to operate in.

Regarding tapping into their local market for clients, I'm not so sure how much those economies can support merchants in this business.
And as a side note, it is not only differences in education systems and study levels(??) that make their services unfit for UK and US students.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 20, 2018
Essay Services / stay away from academized.com [8]

The reputable companies do not offer unlimited revisions because they are confident in the work of their writers.

This is not the main reason all reputable companies have boundaries around their policies on revisions. No matter how competent a writer is, a stubborn customer can always find ways of requesting changes after delivery. If submitted work adheres to all requirements stipulated at the time the order was being placed, then any requested revisions need to be paid for.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

There are some details of the inner workings of many essay companies that remain unknown to most of the students who pay them for academic papers:

Hidden Reader1. Papers to be completed NOT necessarily get assigned to the most suitable writer. Sometimes a paper gets completed by a writer who isn't exactly familiar with the topic, or even qualified in the discipline. In most essay companies, available orders are published on an assignments board for writers to bid on. Any writer with the clearance level (status) the assignment demands can take or bid on it. Very few companies (just 2 that I know of) deny a writer the chance to work on a paper solely because it falls outside his discipline(s) or area of specialization. Depending on how each individual system works, a Philosophy paper can be picked by a writer with an Engineering academic background.

2. Sometimes a paper doesn't get worked on until the very last day. Students think that once they place orders and confirm payment, a writer gets assigned immediately. They don't realize that a paper gets picked up by a writer (mostly) based on its appeal (difficulty, pay rate, instructions, deadline etc.) compared to the other available papers. Less desirable orders take longer to get a writer. It is not a first come, first served kind of scenario.

3. Many companies pay their writers less than 35% the rate charged to the customer. This is especially true for most ESL sites.

4. For essay companies with certain formats, the writer who gets assigned might not be the one who actually works on the paper. There has been a growing tendency of company writers to outsource work to other parties for a fraction of the pay. This happens in companies with inefficient mechanisms and where management has limited control over writers.

5. Sometimes the online operative/agent has little clue of the complex details the client is talking about. The specifics are normally just forwarded to the writer to make heads or tails of. This is true especially for sites run from Ukraine, Nigeria, India, Kenya, Pakistan, Philippines.

6. One of the main functions of company agents and operatives is to ensure that there is no direct contact between writers and customers. Otherwise, if only for efficiency, no company would have some of these middlemen in place.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

I'll tell you as a heads up, that not all names built over time are credible.

A freelance writer who has worked on his reputation over years would not risk it just to score a few hundred dollars from one or two clients.

Low rates scream "KEEP OFF!"

This is true, but not a consistent indicator. The main Ukrainian companies have (literally) dozens of websites charging different prices (across a very broad spectrum) for the same service specs. One of their sites can charge as much as 4 times what their other site charges. They know this perception concerning price exists and is real, and they are positioning themselves not to be impacted by it.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

It is true that a good academic writer need not have postgraduate qualifications. In very many cases, holders of bachelor's degrees make for brilliant academic writers who go on to work professionally enough to earn a living from it.

But, (subject to availability) aren't the interests of the paying student best in the hands of a professional and experienced writer with an advanced degree?
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018
General Talk / Do "real" writing sites exist? [21]

It frustrates legitimate companies/writers to see how many students get cheated out of their money every day by the scammers who make this forum so useful. It is even more infuriating to learn that a victim of such cons knew of the existence of EssayScam.

There are enough legitimate and reliable essay companies and freelance writers right here on this forum. Any student who stops by here genuinely seeking help shouldn't have any trouble finding the right help. Even for the very lazy ones (which is a huge percentage of them) there's a list of Recommended Services and Freelance Writers.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

@writer4life
I slightly disagree with you. First, most live chat reps are not research writers themselves. Going deep into the details of the project and expecting them to keep up isn't very fair. One live chat agent can be simultaneously handling more than 3 different clients requiring papers from different disciplines. They may not have time to get into the nucleus of your specific paper.

Regarding your other point, many second-rate sites nowadays hire live chat agents with impeccable English.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

It's just how the world works, unfortunately. There will always be unscrupulous parties in most industries. The risks are higher for a newbie, as students well-versed with a variety writing services have already figured the reliable options. I'd suggest doing one's own thorough vetting of any considered site. EssayScam is the best place to start.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

If the plagiarized sections are highlighted in the pre-written paper, a writer could technically "unplagiarize" it by paraphrasing the affected content, and possibly even going as far as finding other sources that make the same claims as the content rewritten. However, as a writer, I'd prefer just starting from scratch rather than such "unplagiarizing." The latter sounds quite tedious.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

Where the revision instructions do not necessarily amount to additional content that I can express in terms of number of pages, I try to estimate the amount of effort I'll have to put in for the revision. I do this estimation in terms of time (number of hours it'll take to complete the revision) sometimes, then work backwards to determine the equivalent number of pages. I have a rough idea of how many pages I can complete within an hour. Admittedly, it's not the easiest thing to do.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

@everducky
The prospects are not good for "a bad ESL writer." As you are already a good researcher, I'd suggest you work on your writing skills and grammar problems first. Pursue better opportunities once you are a good ESL writer, and always strive for improvement.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

@Write Review
For a writing firm serving 1,000 clients and attaining an impressive 99% satisfaction rate, half of the remaining 10 can tarnish the firm's reputation. There's little reprieve especially considering that satisfied clients are unlikely to visit online forums to defend the firm's reputation.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

@writer4life
I couldn't have said it better. Being modest enough to keep learning and improving years later after embarking on a writing career is key for success. The thing is, the more knowledge I gain and the more skilled I become as a writer, the more I realize just how much there is to learn out there. That's rather humbling.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

I'm sure most seasoned writers can appreciate the applicability of "more haste, less speed" to their line of work. I find that I accomplish a lot more when I get sufficient rest. Being well rested also means that I can work fast while not compromising on quality during crunch times. There's really no need to push oneself to an unnecessary burnout that will just serve to erode all previous gains.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

These are some sound tips. As a writer, I came to realize that some writer-client issues stem from some nasty experience the client has had with previous writers. Some clients end up thinking that raising as much hell as possible could be the only way to guarantee value for money. I feel that inspiring the client's confidence (through reassurance alongside the tips you've mentioned, such as communication and asking the right questions) helps reduce the antagonism.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

I've experienced this problem in a number of situations. There's a case in which the tutor had a set of general instructions for the module (requiring use of third person). The assignment itself asked for reflection and personal opinions on the topic, which I wrote from a first-person perspective. The client brought the paper back for a revision, claiming I had ignored the instructions. I tried to explain the contradiction to no avail, forcing me to change the work to fit the client's liking.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 16, 2018

I've faced many instances in which the client's instructions for a revision or edit are entirely new requirements, or sometimes at odds with the original instructions. To avoid the back and forth, I try to detect any missing instructions and confirm with the client before I start the work. In case the client is clearly wrong, I always insist on compensation for the extra work. However, I sometimes do free edits in case the changes needed are minor, especially when the client is respectful.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 15, 2018

The con artists in this industry are working extremely hard to blur the line between them and the legitimate entities. They are greater in number (than the legit outfits) and some of them are awash with cash. They are constantly inventing new ways to pass themselves off as the real deal and cheat students. This is why efforts to uncover their practices must constantly be updated.

New students seeking essay writing services face the constant risk of being scammed, extorted, or disappointed by the experience. The good news is that many of these students are aware of the dangers they face, and attempt to safeguard against them. The bad news is that some of these safeguards are either outdated or based on wrong premises.

Safeguard WritersI will mention a few of these and briefly state why they are invalid:

1. Grammatically flawless web copy. This used to be a valid indicator until a decade ago when the cons found out students were getting harder to fool. Nowadays, for a few hundred dollars, they can invest in hiring competent ENL writers to come up with excellent web content.

2. Pricing. Gone are the days when you could tell the legitimacy of an essay company based on how much they charged per page. Nowadays even the shadiest sites match their prices with the most prominent companies. It is their hope that some clients still relying on this indicator might stumble upon them. I have covered this topic in greater detail in a different thread.

3. A Companies House registration number. This one is for those companies claiming to be based in the UK. It takes a few hours of filling forms and like $30 to get a UK registered company from almost anywhere in the world. There are agencies fiercely competing to get clients to register companies through them. Having a UK-registered company means nothing at all in this industry, except only that that individual/group has put in a little more effort than many of the other fraudsters who are too cheap or too stupid (often both) to do the same.

4. Fluent phone or chat representative/agent. It doesn't cost that much to hire one. It is not that agent who will work on a placed order.

5. SSL Cert. This might be hard to believe, but this is what some students look out for when determining whether a site is legitimate. Obviously, a site that hasn't gone through the trouble to secure all of its transactions through HTTPS connections could be riskier. But this is strictly a transaction safety/security issue, not a service delivery competence indicator. It has nothing to do with (or show about) the person taking the money or the one who will handle the order, if at all.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 14, 2018

For more than a decade I have worked as an academic writer for various essay companies. I have written for reputable US and UK companies as well as for a few sites operated outside of these 2 territories.

Over the years I have noticed that most of these essay companies keep recruiting new writers every year. Of course, it is good practice for any business to always stay ahead by constantly adding on to its talent pool. However, my observation speaks to more than just efforts at reinforcing human resource. Many essay companies, especially the 2nd generation ones (if I'm allowed to call them that), find it hard to deliver because they lack sufficient competent talent.

Struggling WriterThe industry, of late, has not been growing as fast as it did the previous decade. The reasons for this are several, and a different topic altogether. Nevertheless, essay companies are desperately in search of competent writers even with lower orders each season.

There are several reasons for this. Here are a few:

1. Many non-US/UK companies don't pay enough to sustain good writers, so there's little mystery there.

2. Competent labor can sometimes be hard to sustain, even for well-paying firms. A writer who is good might get a better offer and leave. I've been approached by competing companies twice.

3. Many writers realize that their input forms the gist of the final product to the customer. They figure they can cut the "middleman" and avoid profit-sharing. Of course, they initially encounter a whole new beast when they try venturing on their own.

4. In a few cases, writers leave not because of the rate of pay, but because there's little work from which to earn. This is especially true for 2 of the most established UK companies. Their legitimacy places pressure on their expense accounts. Such pressure is not experienced by ESL sites (topic for another day). As such (and for other reasons), the prices of these UK sites are way higher than the industry average. This gives them higher margins, but ultimately alienates thousands of students on tight budgets. The result is that these premium sites get fewer customers than their mid-level competitors. When orders to complete are scarce, writers get frustrated, no matter how lucrative the margins are.

5. There are companies that outright frustrate writers. The Ukrainian twins are well known for this. They offer miserable pay, impose random unfair fines, manufacture lateness, delay payments, change payment terms, introduce incredibly abusive terms mid-contract, force-assign projects, assign 'editors' who get a portion of the writers' cut etc. This item deserves a thread of its own.

6. Then there are just those writers who at some point decide they don't want to spend the rest of their productive adult lives completing academic papers for students.
AdvancedWriter   
Nov 14, 2018

a good essay writing takes their writer's health into consideration.

Virtually all notable essay sites allow writers to confirm/bid/take on jobs that they are comfortable working on. I'm yet to come across a situation where writers don't have control over how much work they are expected to deliver by a certain date and time. Only unexpected revisions occasionally increase pressure on a writer who had a planned schedule of what to deliver on.