What kind of support do they provide for square clients?

Thank you to EssayScam for alerting me to the fact that this clown actually copied and pasted practically my entire website, word for word. I suppose I should be flattered that of all the custom-essay-writing websites available, he chose mine for the honor. It appears this same idiot has also gone the route of trying to start various "funding" pages posing as a writer suffering from cancer and begging for donations.

It sounds like you're just at the mercy of whichever writer chose to take your orders at the company, which is not at all unusual. That explains the widely-varying quality of the work you received in different orders. While it's irritating and inconvenient that they decided, unilaterally, to cancel your order and refund it against your wishes, you're still quite fortunate that they did actually issue a refund. This forum is full of complaints from customers who paid good money for work they never received at all from essay companies and freelance rip-off artists who simply refused to issue any refund at all (or just didn't bother replying) and just kept all of their money, instead.

Let me just correct that for you real quick, Mr. High Quality:

"I am highly qualified in [the] custom writing industry. My areas of interest include, but [are] not limited to psychology, philosophy, law, political science, EU economics, HRM, management, accounting theory, religion, cultural studies, and sociology. My services are confidential, secure and reliable. Contact me today through (whatever@gmail) for consultations and discussions [about] your essay, assignment, coursework and term paper needs."

No charge. What's your native language? Just curious.

Possibly the best thing about receiving good work from a writer is that you can stop taking the risk of getting ripped off in half a dozen different ways. If you've already had good experiences with other writers, why would you try someone new instead of going back to the writer(s) who provided you with good work already?

Writers aren't allowed to contact you through this system to take your work. Try EssayChat.

Needhelpwriting, you're going to have to do the exact same research about anybody advertising here as you're going to have to do about anybody not advertising here. The fact that someone advertises here (or pays to be included in Recommended Services) probably doesn't mean anything (good or bad) other than that person or entity has chosen to pay to do so. I've advertised here on occasion, but so have some companies that have very bad reputations, from what I understand. Your first step should be to use the search function here, but you always have to change the default from "titles" to "messages"; otherwise, you'll only find threads mentioning your search term in the titles of threads. Even after your research, you should try out any service provider with a short project before ordering a longer project.

Well, I also still use my wife's old first-generation Motorola Razor for a cell phone and hockey equipment from the 1980s. Would you disagree with the following statement?

"Whereas there are certainly some very good, legitimate freelance writers who still use aol or gmail, prospective clients should always be more careful anytime any service provider uses any kind of anonymous email, because that anonymity can also be easily exploited by scammers."

Legit companies and writers never promise a specific grade. On the other hand, this supports my suggestion that you should always try out any service provider with a very short project before ordering a longer one. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a foolproof system, because, as has been pointed out, scammers sometimes just pay someone else to write the small test order to sucker you into paying for a longer project; but it's still a worthwhile precaution and, clearly, it can save you from getting ripped off much worse, sometimes.

I can't speak for anybody else, but in my case, I've had no problems using my aol email for 15+ years with the exception of the deliberate implications from two posters on a public forum who I strongly believe have a financial interest in suggesting, in a dozen different ways, that essay companies are necessarily safer than any freelance writer; that's why. Both of them happen to know, full well, that some totally legitimate writers still use aol or gmail and that some of the worst rip-off, scamming, fraudulent essay companies out there operate slick-looking company websites and their own email domains, and simply open new companies and websites every time their old ones get outted for what they are..

My only problem with this thread is the title and I don't know whether you titled it or the moderators changed it, as they do sometimes. The title makes no distinction whatsoever and obviously implies that any writer using any of those email servers cannot be trusted, which you and they know as well as I do just isn't the case.

The reason that at least 4 writers you know for a fact to be reliable, legitimate, and talented still use aol and gmail is simply that we've been doing this for years before this forum was created and before we ever knew anything about the frauds out there in this industry. By the time we signed up here, we already had way too much goodwill established with clients associated with our emails to just discard them, especially since those same email addresses would have then become available to anybody. In my case, I've had the exact same email for 15+ years and you know, firsthand, that my S/N here is the exact same one that I've used as my essay-company ID since 2003 for the company that you consider the best in the business.

Some people will say not to trust anybody with a gmail email address, but I've known exceptions to that rule. Did you try the writer out with a shorter project first before trusting him or her with a longer project? You should also provide some more details about your transaction and your agreement (such as what was supposed to be delivered when) if you want people with experience to give you advice about the situation.

Since the thread started by "TheStudent" yesterday was merged into this much older one, I want to address this self-serving thread title that is obviously intended to benefit some essay companies by suggesting to students that all writers using gmail, aol, and other anonymous email servers are necessarily "deceptive." Obviously, anonymous emails have been used by all sorts of frauds in this industry and in countless other industries; but there are also dozens (maybe hundreds) of totally fraudulent essay companies in operation for every legitimate essay company in this industry.

The person who started this thread in 2009 knows for a fact that the top 4 or 5 writers (especially in 2009) at the essay company that the OP considers the best and most reliable American essay company in existence all used aol and gmail emails, both as our primary contacts with that company and for our freelance work. Some of us have also purposely used the exact same S/N on this forum as the Writer ID that we use on essay-company boards and as our "anonymous" email, as well.

Customers should always try out any writer and any essay company with a short order first, before trusting either of them with a larger payment for a longer project. You're no better off with a fraudulent essay company than with a fraudulent writer and you should know that the best and most experienced writers at the best essay companies tend to do a lot of freelance work, more often than not, using those same "anonymous" email servers. I don't know any successful essay-company writer who doesn't also do a lot of freelance work, which makes sense, since essay-company writers are almost always freelance writers and not actually employees of those companies. Those of us who become very good at this tend to transition to doing mostly freelance work instead of essay-company work for obvious reasons. To suggest that anybody using gmail or aol emails is necessarily "deceptive" is, in itself, a deceptive statement, especially when the implication is that forming an essay company is any kind of guarantee that it's more trustworthy than any freelance writer using gmail or aol, etc. All one needs to do to see that is go through the hundreds of horrible and outright rip-off essay companies that have been identified on this forum.

In general, you should always delete the entire reference page and all in-text citations before you submit your essay to the scanner; otherwise, it can return false positives for the titles and authors of the sources if those same sources have been cited many times by others. You can scan the reference page separately just to make sure that the reference list hasn't been recycled even if the text is original.

I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with purchasing a banner ad. There's nothing wrong with paying to be included on a "Recommended Services" list, either. The difference is that anybody who sees a banner ad already knows that it's an ad; the same isn't necessarily true when people encounter a tab that lists "recommended" services, especially on a forum that relates to scams in the industry. I'm just suggesting that customers looking for trustworthy and high-quality essay-service providers shouldn't mistakenly assume that any service provider on that list is actually being "recommended" by anyone. Same goes for understanding that someone here with a S/N "ForumRegulator" is just another forum member and not a moderator or forum administrator of any kind.

It's the same simple concept behind the little print above multiple-page advertisements in magazines that says "This is an Advertisement" or "Advertisement"; and I'm not criticizing anybody for purchasing (or selling) either form of advertisement here. I've purchased ads before and might do it again. People shouldn't think they're reading medical articles in magazines if they're really just reading pharmaceutical company marketing literature and people shouldn't think that inclusion on a "recommended" list means that anybody on that list has been vetted by anybody if the only criteria for inclusion on the list is choosing to pay the fee for it. Actually, that point is totally consistent with your long-term haranguing of the moderators here about selling ad space to certain essay companies as part of your magical metamorphosis from some creepy admitted crook posting for years under the S/N "RustyIronChains" into a white knight "editor" whose purpose for being here is to protect essay-service customers by helping them identify scams.

There's already an identical thread right here: essayscam.org/forum/es/anybody-used-graduatewriter-3600/ and the reason they're on the Recommended Services list is very simple: That's just another advertising option available to any essay service provider who wants to pay for inclusion on that list. I'm not necessarily criticizing anybody for it; but you shouldn't think that it means anybody impartial or objective is actually "recommending" them other than the entity that chose to pay to be included on that list.

This forum doesn't permit us to solicit or accept clients in our posts. I believe the only permissible way for any prospective clients to contact writers is through the information in the signatures that appear below our most recent posts in any thread.

I notice that their main page makes a pretty big deal about the fact that they "focus exclusively" on post-graduate work and specifically says that they don't do any high school or junior college projects, but their pricing page lists prices for high school and undergraduate essays. The copy isn't too bad except for a lot of missing commas that I wouldn't expect from an entity offering post-graduate-level writing.

I am not familiar with the organization, but in my opinion, their website copy wasn't written by an "American writer" and that would be a serious concern to me, given their name.

Are you a representative of the company or a student-customer who was happy with their work? Because your profile says you're a "company representative" but your response is, obviously, something that only a customer would post.

Not necessarily. PayPal Buyer Protection should cover you if a company or writer doesn't send you anything at all, if they miss your deadline significantly, or if you can show that substantial portions of the work were flagrantly plagiarized (i.e. outright copy/paste vs. insufficiently or improperly referenced, which it probably won't cover). It also probably won't cover you at all if they send you a horribly-written, amateurish, nonsensical essay that is equally worthless to you, because PayPal won't get into or entertain any arguments about anything subjective, such as whether the work is "good" or "bad" or whether it's written at the appropriate academic level; they probably won't even consider certain kinds of objective arguments, such as whether the writing is grammatically correct or in strict compliance with specified referencing styles.


I'm not so sure about that. They certainly won't protect your first installment after you've paid the second; but I think they will protect you for any payment if the work provided (and related circumstances) fit all of the other protection criteria, such as I've outlined above. Once you pay for the second half, you're probably only eligible for protection for the second half.

Start by inserting your search term into the Google search box at the top right of the forum screen. When the search screen opens, go to the 3rd field ("Where") and change it from the default "Titles" to "Messages" so your search isn't limited just to thread topic titles; and repeat your original search.

Unfortunately, the fact that some of the illegitimate sites do advertise this means that some customers think it's reasonable to request it. I had two such requests just this week.

Why do you post these atrociously bad writing samples?

One would think so, but the frequency with which they come here to start threads with questions about companies that have been discussed many times over the years in posts that are so easily searchable suggests to me that they don't bother using the search function here at all before asking those questions. Also, because searches here always default to thread titles instead of to the content of posts, many people may just not realize why their searches about companies or writers generate so few returns (or none at all). In many cases, if they would just change that setting to return "messages" instead of "titles," those same searches would yield many more useful returns. In my opinion, the moderators should make that change so users get the most out of their searches and just let people change to "titles" if thread titles are really all they want to search.

We're not allowed to provide any specific recommendations (or solicit your business) here, but you should start by using the search function right here. It defaults to the titles of threads, but if you change that to search thread content instead, you should be able to find some credible posts about just about any company and any freelance writer who has been in business for any length of time.

I'm not sure why you posted this, but whoever wrote it isn't even close to being qualified to write good academic essays, at least not in English.

I'd have expected much more of an economic impact on this industry right around the 2008 real estate market implosion and the subsequent effects on the economy. In fact, I was surprised that it didn't really affect this business that much. Right now, most of my work comes from about a dozen regular clients who typically order a couple of short and medium-length projects every week or every other week or every month, and a couple of bigger long-term projects. Is it possible that a lot of our business from 2008-2015 was a function of all the people who needed to go back to school to change careers and with our help, now, many of them have just made it into those new careers?

I tend to get business from some new inquiries too, but not as many as in previous years around this time. Inquiries are becoming new clients and new clients are becoming regular clients at the same rates as usual, but the number of new inquiries is down. That's why I decided to pay for a little advertising at the top right of the screen.

Generally, the distinction between individual writers and essay-company writers is non-existent except in the case of writers who just aren't good enough to get hired by any company in the first place. In my experience, every academic writer who is good enough to earn a fulltime living doing this works for essay companies and also takes as much freelance work as possible. Essay companies usually have hundreds of writers and they range from very good experienced writers to very bad totally inexperienced writers who just end up getting fired after the first few unlucky recipients of their essays complain about the horrible work they received. Having written thousands of essays for some of the biggest and best essay companies in the industry since 2003, I can also attest to the fact that it takes at least several years to earn enough repeat business and referrals from freelance clients to make the successful shift from relying substantially on company work to relying almost exclusively on freelance work. All of the writers I know who have managed to do that were the best and highest-producing company writers first.

One advantage to using a freelance writer directly is that communications are more direct instead of through a company messaging system; another advantage is that we have even more incentive to making sure that our freelance clients are happy because we know that each client could represent several years of regular work for us whereas we regard every company order as an isolated, stand-alone project since we usually don't know what customer places what order and we just take whatever assignments we want regardless of who actually placed the order. Contrary to what many customers assume, essay companies can't actually "assign" any work to specific writers even when you request us. On occasion, (new) company administrators sometimes just placed an order on my account on their own because someone requested me and then they immediately removed it when I sent a message reminding them that they can't do that to me if I'm an independent contractor and that I don't ever want any orders placed on my account unless I choose to take them because that's totally contrary to what our contract says. As far as pricing goes, the best freelance writers typically charge about the same as the best essay companies; the main difference is that essay companies take approximately half the total amount paid by customers whereas freelancers don't have to split their fees with anybody.

Obviously, an established essay company is safer than some totally unknown person soliciting customers from a generic email address, but most of us who have done both types of work for many years have always used the same email address for as long as we've been doing this and the exact same forum screen name as our essay-company writer names, which means we have as much invested in our reputations as established companies have in theirs. New customers of any company or any freelance writer should always place a small order first before risking a major investment. Once you're happy with work from an essay company, you should always make sure that you request only the specific writer whose work you liked, because if you don't, your subsequent order could be filled by any one of hundreds of other writers who might take the order after it's posted on the company assignment board for their writers. It could also linger untaken by any writer until your deadline passes and you don't have any way of knowing whether or not any writer has actually taken the assignment off the assignment board until you email and get a response from customer service. Some companies may have added some kind of notification capability in that regard more recently, but years ago, I used to offer to check the company boards for customers who were also members here just as a courtesy so they'd know whether or not their orders had been taken.

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My apologies. I have no quarrel with you and was just responding to the substance of the thread and had no way of knowing you didn't start it.

I specifically qualified everything in my first post by referring to the essay companies for which I've written and that by saying that I know of no essay companies that do things differently. The essay companies to which I was referring are all owned by the same parent company that W2B has previously defended as the best in the business and that I used to get in trouble here for defending too aggressively against accusations that I knew couldn't possibly be true. I assume things aren't handled any better at worse companies that neither of us has ever vouched for or defended, let alone all the shady rip-off essay companies that are the real enemy of legit freelancers and legit essay companies.

I agree with that 100%. But as you know as well as anybody, scammers (on a larger scale) routinely do the exact same thing with essay companies, closing up shop and opening under a different name with a fancy new customer-facing website that looks totally legit and claims to have been operating for a decade or more.

I've said many times that legitimate essay companies and legitimate freelance writers should all be united against scammers of both varieties. I think it's unfair and disingenuous to start threads with blanket negative statements (in effect) trashing all freelancers. Legit freelance writers are not the enemy of legit essay companies and vice-versa, and you know for a fact that some of us are (or have previously been) some of the very best company writers. You have previously stated (and proved) that you have admin accounts at some of the essay companies for which I've written, so you know, firsthand, the volume of good work that I've provided and how frequently customers used to request me when I was still doing a lot of essay-company work for those companies.

I have no quarrel with you but I think it's unfair and disingenuous to announce to people that [all] "freelance writers are unaccountable to anyone/anything and can disappear at any time." You'd be livid if a freelance writer started a comparable thread trashing essay companies to steer clients away from all essay companies and to freelancers. FYI, I just referred a customer to one of the companies at which you maintain admin privileges about 2 hours ago.

As far as monitoring orders posted on essay company assignment boards goes, I couldn't possibly even count the number of times that I've watched orders just sit on the assignment board for days until their due dates came and went and then still sit on the board for a few more days. This is also at the same companies where you maintain admin privileges. I also got in trouble on this forum years ago for offering to check the status of some of those posted orders for forum members who'd ordered from those companies but had no idea whether or not any writer had taken those orders.


The only writers I've ever relied upon for overflow are the other top 3 or 4 writers at the above-referenced essay companies whose work is equivalent to mine in quality.

I can't speak for other any other freelance writers, but I don't take any planned vacations. If demand for my services slows down enough for me to take a "staycation," I just use that time to relax or workout or play a little more hockey. If new work comes in, that dictates the end of my extra free time that week or that month. The last time I actually went somewhere for anything like a traditional vacation for two weeks was in 2008 and I still took assignments and completed them throughout those two weeks. I just scheduled it for a time when I knew to expect a lighter demand than usual.


There are definitely two sides to that coin: As you well know, essay companies maintain hundreds of writers and the experience and ability of those writers varies greatly from the very good to the very bad. Every company has some writers who have been doing this very successfully for many years as well as new writers and wannabe writers who are trying their hands at this for the very first time and who aren't very good and end up either quitting or getting fired after butchering a few essays. Every essay company regularly fires some newer writers whose work turns out to be atrocious as well as more experienced writers who get caught plagiarizing in one form or another. I know of no company that actually assigns or re-assigns work to writers because it's always every writer's choice to accept or reject any assignment. Generally, if a company writer fails to deliver, all the company can do is repost the order for any of the other hundreds of writers to take, or they sometimes scramble to offer a bonus and ask some of their better writers to take the order and we often just decline for the same reasons we didn't take it off the assignment board originally (if we saw it).

Another potential disadvantage to using companies is that every company I've ever written for plays only a very passive role in posting orders after processing payments. They do absolutely nothing to monitor those posted orders and deadlines and if no writer takes them before their posted deadline, they just stay on the board with an expired due date. The customer, who might have paid a week ago and was thinking all along that his essays is in the works, has no idea that it's just sitting on the assignment board unassigned to anybody. The first time they even find out that their order hasn't even been started (let alone completed) is when they email the company on the due date and receive a response from Customer Service saying that they are still "trying to find a writer for the project." The honest companies will refund the payment if the customer prefers, but that doesn't help get the customer his or her essay on time. Conversely, with freelance writers, once the project is paid for, it's scheduled to be written by the writer the customer hired for the project. At worst, the writer might be too busy to agree to take on the project in the first place, but at least that way, the customer doesn't lose all that time in between paying and then only finding out after it's already overdue that it was never even assigned to a writer (and I'm using the phrase "assigned" loosely, because I've already explained that writers choose what projects they take from companies at every company I've ever written for).

I have nothing against essay companies, having written thousands of essays for them since 2003. I don't hide the fact that I'm a freelance writer (obviously) and I don't make blanket statements suggesting that there are no benefits to using an essay company or that using a freelance writer is always a better idea than using a company. My personal belief is that anybody here who makes those kinds of blanket statements and suggests that there's never any conceivable advantage to using any freelance writer is just furthering his or her own vested financial agenda as an undisclosed owner, or principal, or paid employee of an essay company. In some cases, the same people making those arguments and doing everything possible to steer customers away from us here and to companies know that some of us are good, reliable writers because they know exactly who we are and that we also write for their companies.

Freelancers who have been doing this as their principal means of earning a living for a decade or more and who intend to continue doing this for the foreseeable future have very similar reasons for keeping their clients as happy as customers of the best companies. Moreover, all of the other essay-company writers I've ever gotten to know in the last decade simultaneously work as freelance writers as well; and all of them provide the same quality of work to their freelance clients that they provide for their essay companies. Obviously, an excellent company writer is much better than a bad freelance writer and an excellent freelance writer is much better than most company writers, at least in my experience as a company writer since 2003 and as a freelance writer much longer than that.

Further, while essay company customers can usually request a specific writer at some companies, I know of no company that requires any writer to take a specific order and we routinely choose to decline many requests for projects that we just don't want. At every essay company for which I've ever written, those orders just become available to any of the hundreds of other good and not-so-good company writers. In fact, in my experience, those orders all "go public" automatically exactly 3 hours after being posted, after which any writer can grab them. We often lose requests that we'd have definitely wanted to take because they went public while we were sleeping or out for a few hours. We'd lose requests for us so often that way that some of us would protectively "take" one another's requests a few minutes before they went public to reserve them. If they were very desirable projects, we'd email one another the instant we saw them posted and if we didn't get a response within minutes, we'd take their order and email them to le them know we were "holding" it until they could contact admin to move it from one account to the other. I know of no essay company that goes that far to make sure requests don't just get taken by random writers once they go public, and those of us taking the initiative to make that effort for the benefit of customers, companies, and our fellow writers are, as explained already, likely to be some of the very same "freelance writers" you'd encounter while trying to find a reliable essay provider.

Finally, all writers go on vacation, get sick, retire, and die, whether they're freelance writers or company writers (or both). Companies maintain formal customer service functions that most freelance writers don't, but fulltime freelance writers who understand the value of maintaining their current client base do respond to emails 365 days a year, and if they don't, they're not bothering to respond to emails from their essay companies any faster than to their freelance clients. Some of us maintain reciprocal relationships with other writers we know to be legitimate as backup writers in case of bona fide emergencies, as well as instructions for someone at home with respect to pending-project client lists, emails, calendars, and deadlines.

So there are some advantages and disadvantages that are unique to both choices and it is not necessarily the case that established companies are necessarily safer bets than responsible, fulltime freelance writers who have also been in business for a long time.

Newer readers of this forum should know that before "Editor75" reinvented himself here as some kind of champion for integrity in this industry, he used to brag about having self-published a how-to book about lying, cheating, and scamming his way through life and about cheating people out of money in various different industries, and that he often referred to gullible customers as "deserving" to be ripped off. All anybody has to do is type "Editor75" into the forum search function (don't forget to change the default from "Topic Titles" to "Messages") and review his posting history a little closer to 2010 than to 2015.

Of course, no review of his full posting history would be complete without all of his posts as "RustyIronChains" going back to 2009, in which he admitted (proudly at the time) to having re-sold essays over and over that weren't his to re-sell in the first place to customers who all thought that they were buying original custom-written work and in which he also blatantly defamed totally legit companies with whom he was competing for business. I'd also encourage anybody to do the same for my posting history going all the way back to October 2008, except in my case, they'll need to check only one User Name and they won't find any schizophrenic phony 180-degree reversal of persona from villain to vigilante. (In all cases, remember to change the default "Topic Titles" to "Messages.")


You make absolutely no sense. It's the same entity selling both forms of ads here, you fool. If you click on the EssayScam.org "Advertise Here" banner, you're directed to a payment processing screen to pay for your banner ad. If you click on the Essay Directory tab here on Essay Scam, you get directed to a page that has a "Sponsored Reviews" tab at the bottom. If you click that tab, you're directed to another very similar payment processing page that indicates that your paid post about yourself will appear within 48 hours right here on Essay Scam in the "Recommended Services" forum section of this website. In case you haven't figured out the obvious, Sherlock, both forms of advertisements are sold by Essay Scam because no "other" entity could possibly be selling thread space here and no other entity could possibly control the "Recommended Services" forum right here on this site where those self-written advertisement threads appear after they're purchased.

I'm just curious what your theory is about subscribers to banner ads on Essay Scam being un-vetted and subscribers to the paid Recommended Services listings (also on Essay Scam) being "much better-vetted" when they're all paying the same company for the listings. What's your theory? That they reject orders by some companies for one type of advertising on this site but then they accept advertising from those same companies for the other type of advertising available on this same site? Or maybe an "Only Scammers Check Out Here" and "Only Legit Companies Check Out Here" advertising payment confirmation button on the respective ad types?

I'm obviously not asking about your theory because I think you're some "oracle." I'm only asking rhetorically because your theory of differential reliability and "vetting" of the two different types of ads sold here by the same entity and appearing here on the same forum page is so patently ridiculous and/or to highlight the fact that you obviously just haven't figured out on your own that both of those types of ads are sold by Essay Scam.


I'm obviously not on anybody's "side" and I don't claim to know anything about any of the companies you've referred to as legit or about any of the companies you've referred to as scammers. I don't know why some companies choose to pay Essay Scam only for short-term banner ads while others pay Essay Scam for annual subscriptions that allow them to publish a (closed) thread about themselves in a pay-to-post-advertisements-and-whatever-else-you-want-to-say-about-yourself-for-one-year forum here called Recommended Services, although I imagine it's probably because of the relative cost. I know that was the reason that I only purchased a banner ad a few times. At the time, you ranted and raved about that (of course) just as you continually criticize me for using the signature feature here in the exact way permitted by this forum. None of that ever had anything to do with my writing or business practices, of course, but was motivated exclusively by your rage at having embarrassed yourself so badly about 3 years ago in an argument where you insisted that the drinking age should be lowered because drunk driving is a "skill" that should be learned early. Ever since then, you've justified your attacks against me by saying it's because I'm an "obtuse moron" or because you think I'm a "boring" writer, or because I choose to advertise here in permissible ways. Clients, other respected writers (like Professor Verb) and even the essay company owner who stiffed me out of what I was owed have all confirmed that I've always been a totally legitimate service provider and that my writing is "excellent" and you have no legitimate reason whatsoever to suggest otherwise, although you do it all the time strictly because of your very personal hatred for me.

Obviously, I'm not asking you because I consider you a valid source of information. I was strictly asking you to explain your basis and justification for advising readers (in Post #5) about how well or poorly advertisers on the different venues are vetted. You specifically said that some are "much better-vetted" than others. Based on your subsequent deflections and refusal to answer the question, I take it that you have absolutely no objective basis for your earlier statement. Thank you.

What makes you think that the companies to which you refer as "pariahs" and "punchlines" couldn't simply pay the same $700 or $900 to be included in the list of "Recommended Services" if they wanted to? You've also said that the companies paying to be listed in Recommended Services are "better-vetted"; do you have any specific knowledge about how they're vetted and how the vetting process for them differs from the vetting process for other forms of advertising available here and/or on EssayChat?

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Inclusion on that list allows you to say whatever you want to say about yourself for the price of $700/year if you choose to leave the thread open to allow others to comment or $900/year if you choose to close the thread so that nobody can post any comments, as those two advertisers did. You've advised students that they would have "better luck" finding legitimate writers through the companies paying to be included in "Recommended Services" on EssayChat and on this forum in the thread to which you just linked and you've said that those advertisers are "better-vetted" than any freelance writers like me who are registered forum members here.

I'm asking you why it's a "better bet" to trust entities choosing to advertise through paid inclusion in either of those lists and what the basis is for your assertion that those entities are any "better-vetted" than registered forum members or those who purchase advertisement banners here? Why is that form of paid advertisement more acceptable to you than registered forum members who have chosen to advertise through their signatures in the exact way that the moderators of this forum have chosen to allow? At least with registered forum members, people can use the search function to check through years of posts by and about any writers who "peddle" their services permissibly right here.

Correct. My point is simply that for the price of $120/month I could say all those exact same things about myself in a paid listing as a "recommended service" with no more vetting than any of my statements here.

Nope. If you just click the little "i" information symbol right next to the words "Recommend your academic writing / editing service here!" on essaychat, you're directed right to an order form that offers inclusion on the list of "recommended services" for a fee of $120/month. There does not seem to be any verification process or any prohibition about using gmail or any other anonymous email. So, on what basis do you believe that entities that choose to pay for inclusion on that "recommended" list are any "better-vetted" than any of the entities that pay for ad space on this forum?