If you only got 240 wds/pg, you could ask for a rewrite for that, assuming there were no reasons (like requests for charts, tables, formatting, etc) that would justify it.

I can't help with anything other than general advice because I'm just a writer and have no involvment with anything other than my own assignments.

I don't know of any essay company that ever "assigns" orders to specific writers; it's always up to writers what orders we choose to take from the assignment board. You can request specific writers; you can exclude certain writers; and you can even request that if your preferred writer is not available you want a refund instead of any other writer. The only thing you can't do is demand that any writer take your paper because it's always 100% our choice what papers we write.

You can definitely do that if you request copies of sources in your original order, but it might narrow the number of writers who will take the order. If you didn't request that originally, you can always ask after the fact, but ask via a message and don't be offended or argumentative if the writer says it's too late and he doesn't have them handy. Don't use the rewrite function for this because it's not a rewrite situation and will only reduce the writer's inclination to go out of his way for you as a courtesy. Also, keep in mind that if he used sources he had in hard copy, there's no convenient way to share them with you. When you ask for copies of sources in the original order, we know not to use hard copy sources unless they're also available online.

As for paying extra, it doesn't work that way. It's all automated and there's no way to add more money on your order. I suppose you could contact the writer and ask for copies of sources as an additional paid page and then place a supplemental order for the page to pay for it. That's only fair, because unless the writer used sources that he happens to have saved or bookmarked, you're asking him to spend about as long getting your sources together as it might take to write a page.

All essay companies that I know resell papers later. I don't understand your concern: 1. No professors are looking for your papers online months (and a few hundred other students) after you complete their course; 2. If your paper is available online months later, that doesn't mean you didn't write it because the companies also buy student papers.

To me, the only possible issue is having your paper resold immediately within the same time frame that yours might be pending. Six months later, there's no reason to be worried about it in the first place. At least with a company I know, they are sensitive to the issue and purposely wait months before reselling anything.

Your best bet is not to initiate unnecessary exchanges with the writer. Just make sure all the information required for the order is in the description and send any additional information in a message or uploaded files. We'll contact you if we have questions. Do send sources, reading material and topic guidelines; don't send detailed "rubrics" or the instructions your teacher gave you about how to write an essay or how to construct a logical argument. We do this for a living and those of us who do this fulltime write about 1,000 papers every year. Also, keep in mind that an essay that might take you a week is an assignment that we do in a couple of hours, so there's no point asking us "how's my essay coming along" when it's not even due for 4 more days because that usually means we're about 20 or 25 essays away from even starting it.

Totally legit. If you have a question just use the message system to contact your writer. Don't bother admin with silly questions and don't bother your writer with unnecessary reminders not to plagiarize or to use good grammar or to follow the instructions in your order. The company handles thousands of orders per month, so don't expect an immediate return phone call for some silly questions or for re-confirmation that a writer really is working on your paper.

When I started doing this, the idea of having more than 1 paper due in a day or a longer paper due in less than a day was something that made me nervous. I remember the first time my account showed 3 whole papers on it. Back then, each paper took several drafts and I printed it out to proof, ideally after not seeing the draft for a few hours or overnight. Now, I sit down and just write it out, spell check, read it over once, and it's better than the product of all those drafts and revisions. Then I'll do that several more times most days.

Now, it is totally routine for me to have 5 or 6 short papers (2-6 pages each) due within the next 12 hours, another 3-4 scheduled for the next afternoon, and more than a paper a day already listed on my calendar for the next week. I may grab 4-6 papers during the day due in the next 24-36 and the whole time I'm writing, I'm also watching the boards for new papers and taking them for the next 24-48 hours and answering emails about papers in negotiation with new potential clients. Many times, I'm already working on one due in 5-6 hours when a new rush order comes in due even sooner that I take, complete in 1-2 hours, and then finish the one I was halfway through in time for the original deadline. I wouldn't say that I do 20+ pages a day regularly, but it's not rare either. I would not say I do it "easily" although I have just sat down and banged out 10-12 page papers in a sitting on stuff I can just free write. A single 20-25 pages is about my maximum in a day, but if it's 3-4 smaller papers totaling the same # of pages, that's usually easier and I do that much more often.

People who see it on my end think it's amazing but that's how I look at someone who can take apart and put a car engine back together in a day and I'm sure good mechanics rip apart and fix several cars a day pretty regularly. I'd feel like I accomplished something impressive if I changed one oil pan in a day and did it right. That's really the only way to make a decent fulltime living doing this. If you're hoping to finish 1-2 papers a day and not mutli-task, not change topics on a dime, and not work like that about 25+ days every month, this is a way to make some spending money but you're going to need a fulltime job to just supplement with your writing.

As far as private work goes, I usually have about a dozen or two dozen people who need me pretty regularly in a few-month period...some people get their degrees and you don't hear from them again for a while but new people are always just starting to give me work. Most of time, if I do 1 paper for someone I end up doing a half a dozen, or dozens. I've had some people use me regularly for as long as 3-4 years. People refer you to their friends too and we get a lot of those also. From 2008-2010, I had one group of 4 nurses who were all friends from 1 referral and each of them were giving me 4-5 papers per week at times.

There's nothing unusual at all about papers getting taken as soon as they go up. Some of us are pretty quick because it can get very competitive if you do this for a living fulltime. You weren't "scammed" but writers are human and may sometimes blow deadlines, lose files, break legs, go to the hospital themselves, or lose parents. If someone misses a deadline, a late notice goes out and if the customer complains, admin contacts the writer immediately to find out what's up. I have no idea what the story is with that paper but you didn't get scammed. Worst case scenario is the writer blew it and you'll get a 100% refund if it's too late to reassign and you'll be given that choice. The company probably handles 100,000+ papers a year and manages hundreds of writers. Sometimes you take a good suit to the cleaners and you tell them you "must have this back by Friday for a wedding" and then Friday comes and they tell you it hasn't come back yet. They blew it, but nobody got "scammed." Stuff happens. In every industry.

You really don't need to look much further than this forum. There are many threads on the issue and you can probably weed through the scammers by taking note of who the respected critics are here and what writers they refer to as being legitimate without necessarily endorsing us.

You can always ask for an outline by just paying for an additional page or two and explaining what you need. The only thing you can't do is ask for an outline with a 5-pg paper order and expect a full 5 pages plus the outline for the price of 5 pages. Same goes for annotated bibliographies because they require at least a page of writing for every 2-3 references.

The kind of "shell" outline you're asking about is unusual but certainly can be done. It's a little weird though because students usually know what they want to cover and need help with the actual writing, not vice-versa. But you can always order just an outline of a topic and ask for the writer to create subheadings, bullet points for each heading, and maybe a list of references to use. You can also ask for a "full sentence" outline. It's your money: as long as the amount of work requested is fair for the price, there's no reason that order wouldn't get completed; I've done a handful of them.

Don't expect a full word count of 275-300 wds/pg. You'll get a 1-2 page outline nicley formatted but it won't be the same wordcount as a page or two of text. You can insist on that, but the arrangement and organization takes time and if you go by wordcount, most of us experienced writers who have plenty of work aren't going to bother taking an order for "300-wd 1-pg outline" because that takes a lot longer than just writing out a page's worth of straight text and it's impossible to format 300 words into a 1-pg outline without going into at least 2 pages.

The only time I ever do any work before being paid is for the companies; they issue checks monthly. Never worked for EA and don't know anything about them. When it comes to private work, it doesn't even get scheduled on my calendar until the payment is issued, let alone get written before it's paid in full. I got ripped off by a regular long-time customer who asked to pay after delivery one time two years ago and that's the total number of times that will ever happen to me. She used my services for 2+ years and said she was behind on her bills. I did the work and it turned out to be her last 2 assignments that she needed. Got a sob story, excuses, and promises to make good on it as soon as she could. No payment ever came. She even had the nerve to ask if I'd write something for her about a year later if she paid for it in advance.

According to the rules of this forum, we're not supposed to use this system to solicit business. More generally, most of us who do this for a living take assignments through companies and we also try to do as much work for private customers as possible. Obviously, the latter is always our preference because we don't have to split the fee with anybody. Check EssayChat.com for writers.

Most of us who really do this on a full-time professional basis don't specialize in narrow areas; if anything, we "specialize" in covering a fairly wide range of subject matter. Naturally, we do papers in our own areas of academic training, but hardly excusively. In my case, for example, my only formal degress are in Law, Psychology, and History, but I write hundreds of papers every year on Business Administration, Nursing, and Sociology, among many other areas. Keep in mind that you don't need a degree to learn enough about a particular topic in a field to write a good paper on that isolated topic, that books are the basis of academic learning, and that most of us have (or have access to) many many books.

It's pretty competitive: your order probably just got grabbed off the board by a writer the instant after it appeared, which happens all the time. Sometimes there's a delay in billing verification that adds a few hours between payment and board appearance, but once they get posted, they often do get taken in seconds. If it says you have a writer, you can use the messages to contact him/her and ask to confirm. But no assignments are ever "assigned" to us because we always have the option to take or ignore any posted order. If nobody wants it, it will stay visible on the board to any writer who hasn't "hidden" it. (And as I've advised before, the fasted route to getting your paper ignored by as many writers as possible is to place a low-value paper order that says nothing but "4 page Essay...please see emailed files for direction." That means we'd have to keep checking the system resource files just to find out whether the order is even in our areas).

The only possible "glitch" could be if you ever use the "add pages to order" function to any order that has already been completed and sent. That could cause a real problem. That's why that function should only be used to add pages to orders that are still pending.

Pheelyks and I have always openly admitted that we write for Write My Essay Now and we have no reason not to. The people you have to worry about here are the ones who pretend they're "customers" and not people who admit what companies they write for. I've been writing 50-100 papers/month for Write My Essay Now since 2003 and the company is 100% legit. Custom papers are always brand new and if writers plagiarize, they get fired.

Bye. Let me try to phrase this in a way that you will understand:

Take precaution so as to not allow the portal to be striking your hindparts.

And how is it that you or anybody else gets to decide what customers care about and whether they can decide for themselves that they prefer any written work they purchase to be written in their own dialect and preferred linguistic style?

It's not about nationality. "Understanding" English isn't necessarily the same thing as sounding natural speaking or writing in English. You develop a dialect or an accent and you use idiomatic expressions that may not be "wrong" but that simply do not sound the same to Americans as native English speakers. If it didn't sound different to us, nobody would care any more than we care what color a writer's hair is. I'm going to bold everything that sounds different to us and I'm not even going to bother with outright mistakes or missing words that have nothing to do with the 1st/2nd language issue:

When we hear that type of English usage in person, the first thing we ask is "So, where are you from?" We may even compliment you on your English, but you don't sound like us. You sound like a foreigner who speaks English. Again, this does not mean that you don't speak English or that we don't understand everything that you said. It simply means we can tell that you're not a native English speaker and that American customers do care about that.


If this is a joke, it's funny. If this isn't a joke, it's another example of how non-native speakers sound different.

Furthermore, if you still don't understand, consider that most American customers don't want British English (and vice-versa even more so) and it's not because Americans don't think Brits "understand" or can't converse in English. There are always perceptible differences and it's those differences that customers don't want in their writing. Those differences become even more obvious when English is a 2nd language on top of it.

Does that help you understand at all?

Ideally, you try any new writer out with a small assignment and leave enough lead time just in case of a problem. Don't start with a 20-pg thesis that's due in a few days. There's always a certain amount of trust required the first time, but if you're happy with the product, it should be pretty smooth sailing from then on. Same with any essay company except you also have to make sure you request the same writer since the quality of the wor always depends on which writer takes the order.

Clearly the words of someone who has not written thousands of academic papers professionally. The vast majority of the time, all we need is the exact assignment description. It's the relatively rare paper that requires any kind of extensive communication and that has absolutely nothing to do with the "sincerity" of the writer. Most of our communication has to do with the first assignment and earning a new customer's trust and confidence, which is perfectly understandable considering most of us who really do this for a living always require full payment in advance.

Most company websites provide a message system that relays messages back and forth. We respond to messages, but to be perfectly honest, most of the ones we get after the fact are usually pretty silly...like asking for further confirmation that the work is really all original, or asking "why are there no quotes?" or even "what is this reference called Ibid" (and I'm not joking). Generally, there's more of a continual communication with private customers because they're usually regulars, whereas company assignments are just another order # on the writer's end and most of the time we don't even know which customer requested us again unless there's something about the assignment that makes it obvious.

First, this isn't Twitter. Just say whatever you have to say or use the quote function.

You sound perfectly qualified to write in whatever your native language is. You could also write in English for any customer who chooses to give you the chance after you disclose that English is not your native language. The only thing you're not qualified to do and shouldn't do is sell your writing services to American students without disclosing that English is not your native language. They don't want writing that's so obviously ESL that it comes across in the simplest writing of an Internet forum post. In this country, your English and punctuation and word choice and style would be major problems in any academic paper regardless of how good the content might be.

I hope for your sake that English is not your native language because it does not sound like it is. Either way, it's obvious from just your introductory post that you don't write well enough to charge people for writing services, at least not in English. Having earned a degree and not wanting to work in a supermarket aren't the prerequisites for writing for a living; being a good writer is. Unfortunately, you're not. Maybe try retail sales management or something like that.

We're not a "team" but actually competitors for the same customer base. We're just the only two SNR writers who have always openly admitted here that we write for the company and use the same S/Ns here as our writer IDs on the company system.

First of all, the contract we sign with SNR says that we are not employees and that our work is always subject to their approval. You can terminate your work with them at will and without a stated reason and they can do the same. By your reasoning, the company could never drop lousy writers unless they actually plagiarize.

They're in the business of satisfying customers and if too many of yours have complained, it would be stupid to keep you. They probably had to issue refunds, partial refunds, or credit for future asignments to some of your customers and they were being as nice as possible to you by not simply deducting those amounts from your account. Chances are they lost money on some papers they paid you for without making a big deal of it.

I've been writing for them since 2003 and those of us whose work customers like have no problems with the company. Here's a news flash for you: If they reposted all of your orders, there was no need for you to "quit" because you were already gone as far as they were concerned. What did you think, that they would repost all your orders and then allow you to take more new orders?

I'm bumping this thread because I've seen so many orders like this recently:

Topic __________
Course_________

Order Description: I'm sending an email with all the info. Please contact me with any questions. Thank you for your help!

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Let me tell you what most of the better/more experienced writers do with those orders:

We can't click the "Remove This Order From My Screen" button fast enough.

Let me tell you why:

It can take 6-12 hours for your emails or files to get posted on our systems. To consider taking your order, we would have to check on it continually to see whether the files have posted yet...and then we'd have to D/L those files just to find out the topic of your paper that's supposed to be provided. Meanwhile, if you would just fill in the appropriate info on the order form, we can usually tell immediately from that whether it's an order we'd have any interest in checking later for the files. Many times, we can just take the order without the files and then wait for them before we actually start writing.

If you want to increase the chance that anybody will actually take your order and if you would prefer some of the better writers who can afford not to be bothered with any 2-pg or 4-pg papers that already start off as headaches from the moment they appear on the board, please fill out the requested info.

Also, there is no need to send us a file that just repeats the info you posted in your order. If you do that, we have no choice but to wait 6-12 hours before even starting your paper because we have to assume that the files are necessary for the order.

This is much more for your benefit than mine, but thank you nevertheless.

I write for them and I don't write for any illegitimate companies. They are a little more expensive because they provide a guarantee that they never resell any papers. Most other legitimate companies reserve the right to do so, as fully explained in their TOS, although the ones I write for wait a few months, strictly as a courtesy to customers. If you use the search box for some of my previous posts, you will find additional information.

It's Dissertations plural.

Writers are never "assigned"; we take whatever orders we want to from the board on a first-come/first-served basis unless you request a specific writer. If we don't take a request, those also get posted on the board after a few hours unless you state that you will not accept any other writer (in which case, it gets refunded).

I don't see any 10-pg papers on the board but I recall seeing some recently, which means someone probably took it off the board. Personally, I can't tell you how annoying it is to get those "How's my essay coming along?" emails (especially, when I'm 2 or 3 papers away from even looking at it) or the ones asking if I "know how to write a critical response" or the ones reminding me not to plagiarize and to use good grammar. I'll either ignore them or just respond "Your order will be ready as scheduled. Thank you."

If you contact me with a legitimate concern or question, I'll always answer appropriately. Your writer may not even necessarly be at his computer.

You have no business offering professional "writing" services to anybody because you write about as well as an average high school student and worse than most college freshmen. Don't embarrass yourself by posting any more of your "writing" here.

Are you out of your mind?

Tell everybody who it is already. Help protect other students and the reputations of all the other responsible writers here. Let him explain here if he wants to respond and let him know that if this is how he does business, it will be exposed here.

Technically, once you pay, you don't have any "right" to cancel unless that right is given to you in the TOS. You have entered into a binding bilateral contract that you can't breach without the other party's consent.

As a practical matter, you can ask them to cancel and they probably will to keep your good will, and depending on the time involved. If enough time has transpired that a writer has actually started (or is almost finished) working on it, they won't because that's not fair to the writer. I've had private clients cancel and I've never refused, but that's only because nobody's ever cancelled on me after I already started the work. In that situation, I'd either refuse (especially if I just turned down other work because of it) or I'd refund only in proportion to the amount of work still left to do and I'd provide whatever was already done by that time (and only if I didn't turn down other work because of it).

That issue doesn't come up that often. However, about once a month someone inquires about a quote on a paper, then asks for it, but doesn't issue the payment. I remind them and they say they're still deciding. No problem. But then, they decide they want it and pay me 2 days before it's due and they get upset when I tell them that I can no longer make the original deadline because too much other work came in since then that got booked the moment it was paid. Or they get upset when I tell them that the price for the original deadline has gone up because now it means I have to move things around or skip whatever personal plans I had to get it done for them.

Sometimes, I have to explain that one reason nothing goes onto my calendar until it's paid is precisely because the customer can always just change his mind anytime; so I can't ever turn down other prepaid work based on tentative agreements, especially with new clients. If an existing client just needs time to get a deposit cleared or whatever, that's a different story because it's not about deciding whether or not the paper is desired but I'm still not comfortable sending any work until it's paid. The only 2 times I've ever been stiffed for work it was both by long-time (as in 2+ years) clients who'd asked to pay late once or twice before and then asked to pay late on what they knew was their last work from me and they stiffed me. One of them actually had the nerve to contact me a year later asking if I'd write a job application letter for her if she prepaid it...the essay prompt was all about "financial responsibility."

Translated: "FreelanceWriter and Pheelyks are two of the writers with the best reputations on here who also work for some of the companies that make my operation look pathetic by comparison so I'll take any chance to disparage either of them."

As Pheelyks said, I don't ever take "deposits" on work or write anything that isn't paid 100% up front. It would also be very stupid for me to be encouraging the OP to post the identity if it was me, but we all know that identifying stupidity is not exactly your strong suit.

I'd just wait long enough to make sure there's not some legitimate explanation, only because these posts can't be edited later. Once you're 100% sure that you're not getting a response or paper in a reasonable time, definitely post it because that's the only way you can deter writers from unjustly keeping your money.

About all you can do is let them know about the quality of the writer to help them get rid of any problem writers. As to the delayed notification about the refunded order, you have to understand how the process works from their end: The order goes up on a virtual bulletin board of assignments and writers take the orders they want. Some papers get taken quickly but others may stay up for a week and only get taken the day before they're due. Those that never get taken get refunded. The company just has no way of knowing when (or if) a given paper will get taken by a writer. All they can do is refund it if it isn't done by the due date.

Tell us who it is...that should get a response pretty quick.

Your "different lifestyle" has you begging strangers to engage you in social conversation online. You should just stick to talking to all those fascinating probing people who are so interested in your life because nobody here seems that interested in talking to you socially.


Yes, I like my job.

No, I am never ambivalent about it.

Yes, I pay all my taxes.

No, I don't have a problem explaining what I do when asked.

People usually respond positively.

If people have a moral problem with it, I don't mind explaining to them why I don't but that doesn't mean I have any interest in typing it all out to engage you just because you're bored, desperate to connect with strangers online, or unable to figure out whether you like or dislike your job or how to respond to conversations about it in person.


Take a hint.

You can't unless you have some way to turn back or stop time. The nature of your business means that rewrites will sometimes be required on papers where customers don't leave any time for it between receiving the order and doing whatever they do with it on their end. Your "solution" to that is apparently to put all the burden on your writers and to take their hard-earned money by allowing customers to demand any new deadline they want. That's neither reasonable nor fair to your writers.

If they have a legitimate rewrite request, you still have to allow a "reasonable" amount of time for your writers to do it without getting fined, especially if you have no review process to make sure the rewrite request is justified in the first place. The only companies I work for have contracts with customers that specify a minimum time allowed for rewrites and they also have admin people step in to review rewrite requests: if they're legit, they instruct the writer to complete them; if they aren't, they explain to the customer why they aren't and that's that. At the very least, you could simply program your system not to accept rewrite deadlines of less than 36 or 48 hours, or you could "toll" the clock on any new deadline at least until the writer receives the message or logs on to your system.

If you had any interest in being fair to your writers, those kinds of things would all work just fine.

My experience has been very different from yours: almost without exception, people are impressed that I'm able to do this, even more so when they find out the volume I write, and the short (often overlapping) deadlines and range of topics I routinely accommodate. I don't really believe in the concept of pride in general, but it's definitely not something I'm even remotely ashamed of or ambivalent about; I'm glad I can actually make a decent fulltime living doing this.


Only if the FAA Accident Report cited a sociology paper written when the pilot was a freshman in college as a cause of the accident. Writing an essay isn't like substituting for him in his flight simulator tests.

Generally, cc companies will back you anytime you can show them that you were wronged by a merchant. Some (like AMEX) are much better that way than others. With a service like essay writing, you're not going to be able to chargeback honest differences of editorial opinion about the quality of work or subjectively reasonable interpretations of instructions. But if you pay for an essay on engineering and you get back one on nursing, or you pay for an original piece of work and you show your cc cmpany that you got back crap pasted from online sources, you shouldn't have a problem getting it refunded. Ironically, you're better off getting ripped off very badly than less badly, because there probably is a pretty wide grey area where you'd be 100% right to want a refund but won't be able to satisfy the cc company's criteria to charge it back.