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Mar 16, 2018
Writing Careers / Kenyan Writers Exposed [17]

Every time I see an issue such as this one on this forum regarding Kenyan writers, I shudder and think I need to quicken my exit from this industry as one Kenyan writer who prides herself in honesty, quality and a relentless drive for self-improvement. Being born and raised here has shown me that the issue that presents itself in the writing industry is by far deeper than that. It is a reflection of our culture- a culture that does not value honesty in the way it should be valued.

When I see Writologist's reply to the claims made by PeterGriffin, it saddens me that that reply is the best he could come up with as a defense to the accusation. There isn't even a hint of remorse, a desire to change, or at least be different if change is impossible. It's just baseless accusations that only make the bad name Kenyans have for themselves even worse.

Anyway, my sincere hope is that within a year, my detailed plan to exit this industry will work well.
RandomRandom   
Jan 08, 2018

They can. One of the things I have learned within the few years I have been in the industry is the value of honesty. Honesty, both with yourself and with the people you intend to work with or already work with can be very valuable. For example, many here argue that if your grammar skills are not perfect, then you have no business writing in the language. However, if you are honest about that from the get go, you'll figure out that there's a sizeable number of students and other people who need papers written in language that isn't perfect. Still, you'll need to perfect other areas of your writing, for example, research skills, formating, avoiding plagiarism in the academic context, among others. It may also help if you specialize in a particular subject.

The issue, as many have pointed out, with African writers is that they often lie about their grammar and language skills. Another issue that I have observed is that they often don't put enough effort into other areas of the paper writing process. The result is that they fail to deliver a good product. If a paper is well researched, properly formatted, and followed all instructions but failed in grammar, there's a chance that even a native English speaker will accept it and pay without calling you a scammer or feeling cheated.
RandomRandom   
Dec 21, 2017

This is something I keep asking myself. How will the Repealing of the laws affect education? How will it affect sites that academic writers frequent?

Note: From what I've understood about Net Neutrality the past few months the topic has been tending, it seems that in countries like the one I'm from such laws are non existent and we're at the mercy of internet service providers. Still, we don't face some of the disadvantages talked about by proponents of net neutrality laws. For example, we don't pay separately to access different sites and I don't think that would happen. Another example is blocking social media services. Honestly, based on what we have in this country, I think like popular social media services would be free or almost free without net neutrality laws.
RandomRandom   
Dec 19, 2017

I think maintaining a social media presence especially for writers with websites might be a good idea.
Think of it this way, on Facebook and Twitter, customers don't have to like your page, follow, or comment, all they need to know is that you offer such services and they'll use your website to contact you. I see many people talking about how weird social media makes it for customers because of privacy concerns so I don't think it would be a good idea to have them as friends or active followers.
RandomRandom   
Dec 18, 2017

@Smiley73
Honestly, I also like some noise but as soon as I understand the things going on in the environment I get distracted. So, I always have the noise in a language I cannot understand, or just have a silent environment.
RandomRandom   
Dec 17, 2017

For the same reasons why applications from Zimbabwe, Angola, Uganda, Tanzania, Botswana, Nigeria, Egypt, or Togo

I seriously doubt these other countries (save for Nigeria) have freelance Academic writers. Perhaps one or two in the whole country.
RandomRandom   
Dec 17, 2017
Writing Careers / Stay Away From Livingston Research [15]

I refused to do that. So they levied a 100% fine. An hour later I was browsing the orders feed and I saw the same order priced $2.

I often wonder what customers end up getting in situations like this Assuming your writing was perfect and they reassigned it simply because they hated the idea of you refusing to work for free, doesn't that mean a customer is likely to get a lower quality paper simply because of the companies pride?
RandomRandom   
Dec 17, 2017

I can't listen to a song I know or understand while working. I'll end up focusing on the song rather than working. Most times I don't listen to anything while working. Sometimes I'll listen to songs in other languages or songs without lyrics.

I'm often curious about how people listen to music they like while working. Isn't it a distraction? Doesn't it slow them down?

I think I experience mental block from time to time. When I listen to music to unblock this, I'll make sure to do this before working otherwise it'll just be a distraction.
RandomRandom   
Dec 16, 2017

Maybe there are some writers out there that actually write drafts for their papers.

I don't really think so (especially on doing twice the work), I can send a draft while I take a water break for a long project. Doesn't mean I'll actually stop working on the project until I get feedback from the client. In my opinion, it's just a good way to ease the fears of the client. Anyway, a draft for me is just a half of what I've done on a project.
RandomRandom   
Dec 14, 2017

Probably, we don't know their skill level

I think they may have a number of decent enough writers who are able to keep them running. It's only that in most of the cases, the bad experiences from students get more publicity. Consider this- the main reason most people like 'Wordsies' know the writers were bad is that they have had to revise poorly done work. If the work was good, then it would not have had to be revised. Consequently, we would not know how good it was. Again, students mainly come here to post their negative experiences. They will hardly post the good ones because that is what they expected and that it how it should be. Also, it's against the forum rules. On other sites and places, students will only talk about their good experiences if they were exceptional. My thinking is that these 'scam' companies sometimes produce good enough papers that keep them going, only no one congratulates them for delivering what was expected of them.
RandomRandom   
Dec 12, 2017

STEM students may rely less on writers... But humanities, arts and business courses are often electives or mandatory for some of these students. Which means that a STEM student may hire a writer to do their humanities classes. So, a large number of people majoring in STEM may not have an impact on the essay industry.

I think you're right about STEM projects though. Not any writer can handle them which may give writers who specialize in one or two area an advantage.
RandomRandom   
Dec 12, 2017

Online classes need more writing but the discussion forums are not as strict for online classes when compared to other writing assignments. This is my experience though. You'll have about 1 strict assignment every month and 4 not so strict ones in the same month. The four are hard to fail because all that is needed is to respond to the prompt and then respond to another student (s).

I've read some of the "simple" papers written by halfwits with 0 ability to write in English.

Well then, I don't know how you would explain how they continuously have work and returning clients
RandomRandom   
Dec 12, 2017

@Major
I think there's probably an increase in the number of classes as well. Also, an increase in the number of students in university means that a bigger majority of those students are international students. Honestly, these ones often need help with simple English papers. It doesn't matter what company they hire because the papers are too easy to fail.

Again, some universities are increasingly offering online classes. In my experience, assignments (especially discussion forums) for these classes are often not as strict with grammar, and language mechanics, they only want the question answered.

These two examples of students could probably hire cheap companies and private writers and review them positively.
Unfortunately, students who require papers at higher levels may be fooled by the positive reviews.
RandomRandom   
Dec 11, 2017

I usually have about 300-350 words in a page when I use Times New Roman font 12 and double space. Honestly, I just take it as 1 page=300 words when it comes to charging. So for me, a 12 page paper with 3000 words would be charged the same as a 10 page paper with 3000 words, all other issues remaining constant. Sometimes, 3000 words will barely fill 9 pages. Other times it's 12 pages.
RandomRandom   
Nov 27, 2017

I sincerely doubt we would be having this debate right now.

On this forum, no we wouldn't. In other forums and places, yes people question. Sometimes maliciously, sometimes out of genuine curiosity.

Now the last name is definitely not English

So I was thinking about this again. Well, this last name is also very unlikely Kenyan. A Kenyan would know upon hearing it. They may not know that it is from Zimbabwe outrightly. However, an American wouldn't know that (based on this thread). Supposing I presented a name from Zimbabwe as my own for the purposes of hiding my identity/scamming, then based on this thread alone, Americans would not know that it was not a Kenyan name. In fact, they would be tempted to think of it as legit because it sounds 'African'. What am I to make of it? Honestly, I'm starting to think that a clever scammer will use African names rather than English ones because English names from Africa seem to raise suspicion. Of course, some people on this forum think that an 'African' name does not stand a chance in this industry.
RandomRandom   
Nov 23, 2017

do you 'steal' such clients?

Not really a good idea. If you're working with a company, you'd probably be fired if they discovered this. Unless the client has more work than the company, then it does not make much sense.
RandomRandom   
Nov 19, 2017
Writing Careers / If I wanted to be a Scam Writer [8]

No, my name has never been a deterrent. I don't know that from experience. Only my country. So you're wrong, I'm not talking complete nonsense. Also, I mentioned in another thread that the English names aren't as generic and fake as you want to assume. It seemed to me from that discussion that a genuine English name, if common enough would be a deterrent though.
RandomRandom   
Nov 19, 2017
Writing Careers / If I wanted to be a Scam Writer [8]

I've been here a month and based on what I've observed, these are the things I would do if I wanted to be a scammer.

Scam College Writer1. Use two fake but African-looking names.

2. Claim I was born and educated in *insert English-Speaking African country not popular in the essay writing industry (e.g. Uganda, Zambia, Namibia, Sierra-Leone)*

3. Claim that I earned a scholarship to a US university. Make sure the university of choice is not an Ivy-League one.

4. Claim that I was doing this to support my 3 children and 4 nieces since my husband left and my sister (mother of my nieces died).

5. Pretend I had plans to study in the future and earn a Ph.D. or master's or whatever.

6. Have fake certificates.

7. Claim to have one undergraduate degree but several other certificates and Diplomas.

What chances would I have of being caught?

NB: This is a hypothetical situation. Not anything I plan on doing.
RandomRandom   
Nov 18, 2017

with a legal English name coming out of Kenya?

Like I mentioned, every Kenyan you interact with is likely to have a legal English name. I don't see how you could stop because Americans don't really know what Kenyan names look like.

There used to be a guy named Barack Obama who would advertise, and he never got any customers

This is rather unfortunate. After Obama became president, many people in the country named their kids Barack Obama. Obama is also a genuinely Kenyan name so would you dismiss a person called Obama by pretending the name is American? If you did, I'd say you were the bigot.

(ie. Ogumbo Boubaci

Assuming this was meant to be a Kenyan name, I can say it is highly unlikely that you find a Kenyan with such a name. That someone thinks this would be more legit than say Joseph Smith is perplexing to me. Ogumbo sounds like a Kenyan last name but I have never met a Kenyan with it (I haven't met all the Kenyans, obviously).

The 'fake names' you encounter in the industry are likely to have real meanings for them. They may not be official, they may just be nicknames or English versions of African names but they aren't really fake.
RandomRandom   
Nov 18, 2017

I mean even two English names are likely to be valid. The only reason I don't have a second formal English name is that I was hard-headed and refused to get a new name during my Confirmation and Baptism. I retained my birth names in all these instances.

I'm not a Christian anymore but I wouldn't go as far as to change my name because I do not have a problem with it.
RandomRandom   
Nov 18, 2017

@FreelanceWriter

I haven't been active in the Kenyan writing forums for over a year now so I do not know exactly how they do it. When I checked though, they'd sell everything that came with the writer account to minimize suspicion (sim cards, PayPal address, email address, literally the whole identity) this is for companies that are very strict on such details. As stated these tend to be very expensive. Kenyan banks and mobile phone service companies are a little strict so this does not always work out and leads to cases with the police and law enforcement officers. This is a major deterrent but honestly, it just drives the prices up. I'd think by now they have stopped selling these things out of fear for Kenyan authorities. Other companies pay through PayPal, skrill, etc and these details are relatively easy to change
RandomRandom   
Nov 18, 2017

Now that you mention it, the person doesn't work in the essay writing industry. Kenyans will usually tell immediately that her name is translated. I have another English name too that comes from a corruption of the pronunciation one of my African names. Usually, people, especially those who speak my mother tongue will immediately know what the African name is if I give them the English name. And I've had it all my life.

That is, as long as the person acknowledges that he is using a translated name when the need to clarify it arises.

It seems everyone else here already concludes we're lying by having English names. The conclusion for most, despite knowing so little of our culture is that any name that doesn't sound 'African' is a lie. That's funny, because in Kenya, English is the second most widely used language. It may not be perfect English but I'm not lying when I say that. There are 50 other languages, more or less, spoken in the country. That people expect to know what a Kenyan name sounds like when there could be millions of variations is funny.

As I pointed out earlier, majority are also Christians. When I was a Christian, the church encouraged people to have a baptism and confirmation name. Since it was supposed to be a Saint's name, these names often turned out to be English names.

What if a person, respecting their Christian faith decides to use both English names? Are you always going to conclude they're fake?
RandomRandom   
Nov 17, 2017

My English name is Mercy. I haven't met a Kenyan who didn't have at least one English name. Even famous politicians, writers, artists, etc who use two African names often have an English name. Maybe we can blame the colonial history, maybe Christianity, maybe globalisation, maybe all these.

To add on this, I know a person called Mary* Mbau. Mbau is her native language's word for woods (and mine too). She calls herself Mary Woods. Do you think she's fooling people? Is she lying to them?

*not her real English name.

Speaking of which, even the translation for Smith to my mother tongue is a really really common last name here. Maybe they aren't really lying. Maybe they're translating their names. I don't think that's dishonest lol.
RandomRandom   
Nov 16, 2017

I don't doubt that there are good honest Kenyan freelance academic writers. Honestly, though, I think you're not likely to find them because if they know about all these and disapprove-and they probably do, then they probably work on their own with their writer accounts or clients without caring for such publicity because in most cases it will be negative. Most find out about the negative image out there by accident- maybe from an abusive client like I did or from a forum like this.

On a related note, I think the reason why it exists is that Kenya as a country does not value its intellectuals. A friend of mine once analyzed the state of the economy and social lives here and realized that unless you get into politics or have a successful business, the other career options will pretty much wear you down. Foreign currencies, dollars and pounds, tend to be attractive because of their high value in the country. People try and find ways to get paid in these currencies. Consider this, the minimum wage in the US is roughly $7.25- $10 per hour (You can correct me if I'm wrong) If a Kenyan were to earn $7.25 an hour, work 6 hours a day for 25 days a month, they would be somewhere in the middle class (Upper middle class if they reside in places far from Nairobi and lower middle class if they are in Nairobi and its environs). Not a bad life if you ask me.

Relating this back to the issue of buying and selling accounts.
A TD's advertising strategy involves telling you how much you could from the accounts. If you are clueless, they let you know that you can earn $5-$10 per page (this is the average per page for most common writer accounts that will accept Kenyans) and that you can write 2-3 pages an hour. I'm sure you do not need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that this is lucrative enough for anyone to consider. The TD will also let you know that you choose your own working hours. Not many people picture themselves working only 6 hours a day when they could do more and earn more. The not-so-clever ones will buy one immediately. Clever Kenyans usually try and find out about the writing accounts from sources other than the TD. Even more clever ones will try and sign up for the accounts. Some get accepted in the process and begin their writing careers just like that. These ones may later think of the TDs as fraud.They may also try and sign up again later using different credentials for the purpose of selling them. The TD will be there as a ready buyer if they choose to do this. Some will not get accepted. A clever one will know that this was above them. Some seek training (I have had people asking me to train them). Yet others think that it is not an opportunity to bypass and go back to the TD with ready cash maybe from a loan or from whatever sources and buy the accounts.

Now that I think of it, maybe solving the crisis would require a complete change of the things in Kenya; education system, work culture, politics, and business outlook. I may have stumbled upon people and organizations that seek to change these things and have actually considered them because I do not plan on being a writer in the long term.
RandomRandom   
Nov 16, 2017

who wish to purchase writer accounts though.

I don't think I did a good job explaining why people buy them. I mainly concentrated on the sellers' perspectives because I felt that it is not usually understood. For the buyers, it's quite obvious in my opinion: Inability to pass the various writing tests coupled with a desire to earn money, lack of qualifications, maybe lack of time but I don't see how one could lack time to do a couple of tests yet still have the time to write for the company.

My personal, perhaps very subjective opinion is that buying is fueled by the sellers and especially the TDs most of the time. Their advertisements on various platforms naturally raise the curiosity of potential and uninterested buyers. I believe (with evidence) that sometimes they look for clueless people and coerce them into spending cash on these writer accounts. As I said, a TD is likely to have an account that isn't very good due to plagiarism warnings and quality issues.
RandomRandom   
Nov 15, 2017

Haha, I want to support Kenyan/African writers but no. I'd be lying. Yes, the more you read, the better you're likely to write but please don't pretend Africans are avid readers. Again don't forget that most times, the ghost of Dunning Kruger is around and it makes pathetic writers overestimate their writing abilities.

I still don't buy into wordsies 1/100. I'd give it 1/20.
RandomRandom   
Nov 15, 2017

I know one company that bans Kenan IPs (won't mention because of Forum rules and stuff). Despite that, there are Kenyans that work for that company using proxy IP servers. Typically, people get accepted to work for the company because they use fake IDs and certificates and work as teams in order to pass the tests. Sometimes they collude with some Americans when it comes to phone interviews. Maybe working for such a company as an individual would make sense if one could produce papers with impeccable grammar all the time. People still sell the accounts though. For the most part, after selling, the quality of the papers produced will drop significantly. When the quality drops, then the company gets suspicious and checks all the other issues regarding the account. Usually, they find the fake certificates and IDs, the use of proxy IP servers and any other issue that would indicate fraud and the account is terminated immediately. This particular one is one of the high-risk ones and yet very expensive.
RandomRandom   
Nov 15, 2017

made that assumption simply because this industry is male-dominated

**** apology if you ask me. You were better off leaving it at sorry. No offense taken though-maybe
RandomRandom   
Nov 15, 2017

him

*her. I'm sorry my username does not reveal my gender. I think wordsies meant that it is 1/100 in both instances. Of course I don't agree with that but he stated that it is his personal estimate so there's no point arguing over that point.
RandomRandom   
Nov 15, 2017

I don't think you can learn to write in a convincing EFL voice just through practice, no matter how much writing

I don't think writing alone is sufficient, for the same reason you state. It pays to read actively too, in my opinion.

As Smiley73 above states, actively reading material by ENL people would help. Active reading here means noting the language use, phrases, vocabulary, finding synonyms etc.

I agree with you when you say that having ENLs correct and coach actively may help to a big extent. However, the reason the idiomatic expressions for ESLs persist is that that is not a resource they have.
RandomRandom   
Nov 15, 2017

Since I have browsed through the threads in this forum enough, I know that this is something most people who have been here long enough know.

I'm just posting this because I wish to share the perspective of the Kenyans who engage in this business

Who sells freelance writing the accounts? Who buys them? For how much? What are the motivations?



Usually, anyone with one registered with a writing company can sell one. However, there are some people, brokers, known as TDs (trusted dealers) who buy them from people and advertise them to others in facebook groups, pages and even other forums outside facebook. the primary seller may wish to go through a TD if they do not want to go through the hassle of picking and receiving calls from potential buyers and informing the clueless about the writing industry. Additionally, most TDs often have ready cash and accept even those accounts without a good reputation( too many fines, warnings about plagiarism, warnings about the quality of work, warnings about lateness, etc.)There are a variety of motivations to sell. The main motivation is quick money. The price of accounts ranges from as little as $20 to as much as $4000 (possibly more). The stricter the company in terms of personal information and the tests required to get accepted as a writer, the more expensive it is. For example, companies that hire ENL writers alone tend to be more expensive. There are other factors that determine the price of an account. For example, how much it pays per page and whether writers bid for orders or take them without bidding or are assigned by a support team. Bidding accounts are usually cheaper despite being more flexible in terms of how much one can earn per page and the choice of working hours. Another motivation to sell could occur when a writer no longer wants to work in this industry. Since the market is already available and people do not question the ethics regarding it, the writer may not find it sensible to give up the career without getting some money back.

Writing Account

What are the risks for a seller?



One of the main risks is being defrauded. I don't think I need to explain this. Another risk is that one may not find ready buyers. This rarely happens though.

What are the risks for the buyer?



One of the main risks is the fact that companies that have been in the essay writing business for a long time can be quick to detect such fraud. What this means is that one may buy an account and then have it terminated as soon as they change the password and payment details. It does not help that such accounts tend to be more expensive.

Still on the issue of termination, most Kenyans overestimate their writing skills. This means that they may 'invest' a good amount of money, say $1000, in the accounts in the hopes of earning the same amount within a week or less. However, when they begin to write and submit their essays, the company realizes a significant drop in the quality of papers and terminates the account before the writer has been able to recover the amount 'invested'.

Buyers also face the risk of being defrauded by the sellers.

How can companies curb this?



at this point, I think the business is too far gone in Kenya for companies to consider putting an end to it. However, as stated before, the stricter the company, the more expensive the account. The higher price may be a deterrent especially for people without much experience in the essay writing industry. This could work especially when people learn that the account could easily be terminated. I've also read on a blog somewhere that some companies encourage their writers to guard their accounts and not sell them. I don't think this can work so well because people already know that it is wrong and do it anyway.

Points to note:

I have used account and company interchangeably here.
While I have tried my best to remain objective, there may still be some points that are not very accurate since these are my observations.
RandomRandom   
Nov 15, 2017

(my personal estimate is that only 1 of every 100 ESL writers can actually produce a paper that will pass US/UK educational standards without any red flags.

Do you mean 1/100 ESL people in the academic writing industry, or 1/100 ESL people in general?
RandomRandom   
Nov 15, 2017

(you can probably count them on the fingers of one hand)

I agree with this. Is it that they cannot learn or is it that it is not a priority for them? Personally, I'm more inclined to believe that one who sets out to learn will be really good after a while.
RandomRandom   
Nov 14, 2017

I'm interested in the full story about why your earnings were withheld from you. Do you mind sharing?
I do not think the forum rules allow people to recommend companies directly.
It seems to me you're still as desperate for work as you were before you got scammed. Perhaps you should try and be less desperate because it could possibly lead you down the same hole. I know it's easier said than done. Anyway, all the best.
RandomRandom   
Nov 14, 2017

I think you misunderstood me. My point was meant for ESL writers and speakers who have had enough experience with the language to a point where it becomes somewhat like a dialect for them. Again, I forgot to mention that speaking like a Native for an ESL person can be close to impossible. But writing is relatively easier and quite achievable for anyone who has it as a goal.
RandomRandom   
Nov 12, 2017

Well, am I lucky to have dealt with the insane ones? Better yet, that so far most of them are succeeding and coming back? And no, I have never lied about location when asked about it. I challenge you to find evidence if you can. And if you think not including it in this forum is lying, then that's alright. You don't butter my bread and as far as I can tell you'd warn people against me solely because I'm a Kenyan. Guess I should cry myself to sleep now that someone on the internet doesn't like me.
RandomRandom   
Nov 12, 2017

I can't answer that about him. He has his own reasons. I believe he should answer. (Does it bring any joy to you to expose that he is a Kenyan? That wasn't hard to figure out, was it?)

However, I can say why I decided not to include details about my location when I signed up for this forum. I figured it would work to my disadvantage rather to my advantage. I'm sure I was correct in that assumption. I did not lie about it, just chose not to disclose. I normally do not do that with the clients I work with simply because I have more and better payment options when I disclose when I am a Kenyan. I also d not see how I could have a long-term working relationship with anyone if we were not open to each other about such things.

If he lies about the crucial part of his business, he lies about anything else, period.

Lol, why do we need to put a period there? Are you the one to decide what extent people can and cannot lie about and to what extent? Maybe he thought saying he's in the USA would be better for his business.
RandomRandom   
Nov 12, 2017

Again, where's the evidence that Denis here will actually do that? I'm not saying that he will or he won't, I'm just saying there's no evidence so far that he will. Again, where do you get the 80% figure? I think you think it's at 80% simply because the scammy ones tend to be exposed a lot more. The rest of us just work like I have for over two years without caring for self-promotion or the image out there, until I meet with a client who calls me all sorts of abusive names and racist names, even before they have seen my work. Then we get curious, and we find forums like this and we find out why.

Your desire to drag down every other Kenyan you see before you have evidence seems to stem from your own biases in my opinion.
I may be with you that it is actually quite impossible to repair the image Kenyans have worked so hard to ruin. I'm not even trying to build that image for all Kenyans. It would probably backfire on me if I tried.