So, if it's spam for a scam company, you'll send Cite's post to the trash, but if it's spam for CP, you'll leave it up. Is that right?

Let's all take a minute to remember that due to anti-plagiarism software, prewritten papers have no value.

More spam from Cite, mods. It's time to draw the line.

I would expect that in a competent company, automatic order forms would be overseen by someone who knows what they're doing before being shuffled into the general bidding pool. Especially if that competent company has good writers, a lot of those orders are going to be requests.

You seem intimately familiar with this behavior, for which you blame writers. As usual, you're all kinds of wrong.

First of all, it's not imbecilic. Writers in this kind of setup are essentially being made to fight for scraps, so grabbing a blank scrap and then waiting on confirmation is a pretty wise move-- especially if you're writing for someone who trusts you enough to include the customer's email on the order sheet.

Jic you haven't been following Cite's parade of travesties, he doesn't play like that. His writers have to talk to him, so that he can pass the message on to the customer. If you're that customer, it's going to take extra time to communicate with your writer.

Also, have you seen his English? It's going to be like playing Telephone with a 6-year-old.

As for that blank order-- who took it without clarifying and confirming with the customer? Who made it available for bidding?

In Cite's case, the buck stops with the grinning charlatan at the head of the parade, not the miserable "suckers for punishment" he keeps in fealty.

This is dynamite stuff! The way you keep the pace moving is what I really like. I'm sure the- ahem- writers at your- ahem- company look up to you as an example, as well as fearing your- ahem- righteous QAD.

PS-- PLEASE post that Martin Luther essay.

Idk, b/c you don't provide any context to who Katie is. But since you asked, I think she's a scam-artist like you. Your English isn't any better than hers, and you're both foolishly determined to judge companies producing academic-level English. I don't know why you two didn't hit it off.

Maybe it's that Katie's probably lived in the US/UK, and I don't think you have. So, that actually puts her one up on you--- she's easier to understand, and about 100x more authentically colloquial. You make similar basic errors. She's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but she appears to be much more self-aware about that than you are. That adds some likeability to her readability (neither of which traits you possess).

You do have a snottier tone in challenging her-- no points for that, as your grammar in the third sentence up there is abysmal. Have you heard the one about glass houses? Don't answer that.

Answer this: how dare you call for guesses about Katie's English-- and who are you calling, the people whom you've been scared to address directly here for almost a year now?

Cite, you doxx your clients, too, right?

Mods, why not put a stop to this utter BS that's been clogging up your site for the past year or so, and give Cite a 3-month ban for spamming/shitposting?

You finally seem to have recognized that he spams for Ukrainian scam sites, in addition to advocating illegal and unethical practices. What do you gain by letting him put on his little shitshow here, day after day?

Cite, who cares what you believe, or how respectful you think someone sounds on the phone? You want to post something useful? Stick to the facts! You obviously haven't ordered an essay from this place, nor could you judge its quality if you did.

Cite, this would be a good thread in which to bust out that Martin Luther essay and show everyone your chops. Why not?

Cite, you also sometimes post incomprehensible, rambling semi-endorsements of AR based on what appears to be inside information-- do you have direct experience with all of the Ukrainian scam companies, or just some of them?

This is, once again, terrible advice. 100% payment should come up front. Drafts are a useless way to charge clients more for nothing, and they exasperate writers.

Let's say you have a ten page order. If you don't trust a company, spreading quarters of that order around all over the place isn't going to make anything easier for anyone. And drafts may even add pages to that total. Doing it the way the incompetent shitposter above recommends is also going to mean that when you add it all up, if that operation was a scam, you're going to have lost all 10 of those pages (10+ if they talked you into paying extra for drafts).

Instead, just place a smaller order first. Have them do just the introduction to that 10 page paper, and if it works out, then order the rest. If it doesn't, you're not out as much, and you can move on much easier.

Cite, can you tell everyone a little more about your own incompetent QAD's fining structure?

Since you have admitted on this forum to promising your customers grades, encouraging them to hand in their essays directly, and doxxing them as vengeance, you do not have a registered academic ghostwriting business in the US or UK (or you're a criminal there, in which case, great long-term strategy).

Assuming you're not lying about having a business, which is kind of a stretch, but not totally impossible, knowing what I know about intelligence, employability, and small business owners, I'd like to know more about where you are located and its official language(s). Are you ashamed to say?

Sounds familiar!

FW is right, Cite-- you should check out people's posting history, and also the responses of long-term members to their posts. That's what potential customers are doing to you.

Are you talking about any companies in particular? And before qualifying your statements with "in fact," try doing some research. You'll find your writing is generally stronger when you're able to back up your assertions with actual evidence.

Cite's post is a good addition to this thread, as he lives in a glass house where he isn't sure how to use idioms, articles or prepositions in English, but also considers himself a big-shot. Hey, Cite: "beware of" throwing stones.

In case you're reading this and wondering about the quotes, Cite, a legend of coherence in his own mind, likes to say things like, "beware for" and "burning the midnight candle." Customers: stay far, far away.

If a company or a representative tells you it's okay to hand in your essay directly, or promises you a certain grade, that is illegal in the US/UK. Therefore, they are either a criminal, or located elsewhere (likely a place where the standards of academic English are a little more ambiguous than you'd prefer as a customer).

That would be true if pre-written essays were useful for anything. I'm sure you're aware that they're not.

Also, in the US/UK, it's illegal to promise people grades. Customers should note that if someone promises you a certain grade, they are likely not operating out of either of those places.

It was a rhetorical question, but thanks for responding.

Why would you make an ID as a company rep and then try to pass off your post as a customer?

Cite is being irresponsible again. If I see a customer who wants work in drafts (as opposed to an assignment that requires their use) as a way of dipping a toe in the water, I double my bidding price. If you don't trust a writer or company, as FW has posted multiple times, the wisest thing you can do is place a very short order (1-2 pages) to test them out. Asking for drafts is a pita move.

Why wouldn't you just warn them not to do it again? Seriously, how did you get to management? Appointment? Inheritance?

This is great advice!

It has nothing to do with any of this-- it's about knowing the English language as it is actually spoken and used. An expatriate writer from the US or UK is fine anywhere without connection to all that irrelevant junk you mentioned, because they learned actual English, not just at school, but in every aspect of their daily life, for years and years.

If English as a living language is something that's abstract to you, you don't belong in this industry.

And before you start persuading people to give you money in return for advanced, academic English, don't forget to study those basic building blocks-- "a," "an," and "the."

This is a site that used to feature ads from any scam company that would pay. They had to change that policy. I foresee a similar situation brewing with incompetent shitposters like the one above becoming "featured writers."

It's ON this forum.

Secondly, this is NOT TRUE. You have to know when to support and defend your writers, even if it means you may have to eat a refund or two. Your policy leads to good writers quitting, hating you, etc.

Also, don't you know that it's illegal to promise grades in the US/UK, and unethical everywhere else?

This is just another sign that you're a con-artist trying to cozy up here and do some damage. You would have been thrown out of here weeks ago if this place made any sense.

How do you know so much about this company and its location?

Your terrible English really hurts my eyeballs, and I feel sorry for any customer who stumbles into your ES-sanctioned trap here. Why do you think you belong in this industry? For God's sakes!

I took a certain language in HS and college, and I'm okay at it. I can get by in that country, ask for directions, buy toothpaste, etc. But I would never even dream of setting up a company offering high-level academic assistance in that language, because #1 I'm not a con-artist and #2 I have a realistic sense of my own limitations. That also actually helped me learn more, because I could recognize my own errors and try to fix them.

You, though-- you assume you belong in this industry, and yet you still don't understand basic stuff about the language, like YOU DON'T ISOLATE THE SUBJECT OF A SENTENCE WITH A COMMA. What gave you the gall to make a career choice where you're crippled from square one? Was it desperation? Privilege? Arrogance?

Cite-- you are a mind-bogglingly incompetent disaster in the English-speaking academic ghostwriting world. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

That's an understandable perspective, Cite, since you've claimed on this forum to have a company and a stable of writers who you feel free to treat like garbage (fining them and not giving them a way to communicate with customers-- and that's likely the tip of the iceberg). You'd probably support a return to feudalism if it benefited your bottom line.

No; don't trust. Ask questions. An unknown company in this industry should NOT be given the benefit of the doubt. As a customer, natural skepticism is your friend. If you're looking into their location, and they don't want to answer your questions, or they give misleading answers, it's not time to roll the dice and see if "things work out." It's time to move on.

If their answers seem okay, as FW has posted, some good advice is to order 1 or 2 pages at first, before making a major commitment. It makes sense to test waters you don't know; anyone who tells you to dive in headfirst doesn't have your best interests in mind.

Is this some sort of euphemism, or do you mean "midnight oil?"


The Professor (whose last post here was years ago btw) would not approve!

Okay, I'm not getting drawn into this OCD vortex. Just one or two more free lessons for you to privately internalize and publicly ignore, Cite, and then you can have the sandbox all to yourself. For a while, anyway. 2 randos joined the club just to tell you to shut up while I've been here, so I'm sure it will continue.


"obviously an ESL learner"
"obviously an ESL student"
You can't say someone is obviously a language, though, unless you don't really know what you're talking about.


"The company's ESL writers."
Oh, so you self-corrected that mistake, great... not. That lack of a possessive is a real tell.


Awkward. "Their means of expression" is nice. "Their caliber of writing." The sky's the limit, if you actually know what you're talking about.


Awkward, ironic. "That person" goes back as a referent to both "the OP's grammar" and "you," neither of which really works.


"They should thank their writer."
You've been over this error yourself, by yourself, to yourself, in another thread. Self-study may not be the best route to knowledge that sticks, in your case.

Did you read this thread? Several people here have done it, or come close. And no one said anything about one client-- you added that.


No you didn't, because "The $20,000 academic writer-- can it be done?" was not the question.

The idiom you're looking for is, "gluttons for punishment." I don't know what a sucker for punishment is; maybe someone who works for you?

Isn't that an optimistic assumption? It sucks, because potential customers in this industry aren't always the brightest. This site could be doing a lot more to protect them than letting various wooly-looking wolves post up here for years on end without question or censure.

99Essay's 7-year-old post was not funny; there was no constructive reason to bump this thread. In addition, GW is one of the more traditionally-perfectionist companies in the industry when it comes to quality control; you are a moron who has not yet figured out how to use pronouns and articles correctly.

Also, the mods' lap-dog should know that GW is up there in a banner ad, right next to your beloved CP. Have you seen it?

If you have a system where you trust your writers to communicate with clients, a little personal info is typically and easily asked for via email when an order comes up that requires a personalized perspective. If you view your writers as untrustworthy (and/or treat them like slaves by fining them), the abovementioned software runaround may be necessary (and embarrassing).

In a similar vein, if you're a customer, it's pretty easy to realize that you are submitting your personal essay prompt to a diverse pool of writers, and if it matters to you, you'd better add a note: "this should be written from X perspective."

Cite, I know you don't like questions unless they are of a certain vintage, but in 5 years or so, could you please post that essay of yours on Martin Luther? I think a lot of people on this forum would love to read it.