Just a hello, and some moer :)

Wanted to say hello to all of you. I have been reading through this forum a long time now, but never actually registered. Don't know why exactly, but I suppose the level of bitterness I witnessed towards non-native writers got me off. I do hope I was wrong, and this will prove to be a rewarding, loving community of writers that help each other detect scamming and untrustworthy sites.

Yes, I am non-native, and proud of it. Though, life would be easier..............daydreaming again.

**all "mistakes" are intentional**

Must have read some other forum then :)
There really is no point in trying to conceal your origin. English natives use constructs that are almost impossible to copy. As for my personal experience, customers didn't complain about my writing style, so i imagine it is passable. The other part is much more relevant anyway.

Thanks for the praise. Coming from a fellow writer makes it ever so pleasing.
About the ESL - I work as an editor for several sites, as a part time gig. Majority of writers are ESL, much like me. But, they originate from Pakistan, India and other Middle/Far Eastern countries. While i am not the one to judge, I think it has something to do with the English program they have in schools. Most of them use antiquated words, some of which became obsolete about 120 years ago, others struggle with syntax and use of adjectives.

I think they regard their English skills to be excellent, which is probably true, by Eastern standards. In US/UK they are not however, and that could be the reason why they are so defensive.

Bravo, I suppose we are the ones ordering the papers as well, making a full circle.


Indeed, I can see by your "scholarly" attitude and general intelligence level that you are exactly the kind of person others hold in high regard. If your conduct on this forum is speaking of anything, it is your complete and utter lack of brain cells. Those ran away long ago. So should you, as it seems all you do here is try to provoke and accuse people you know nothing (mostly) about.

I doubt that anyone who actually knows how to write will go for that rate. At best, a semi-decent foreign writer, but I sincerely doubt it would be well researched, or/and written. I could be wrong however, but my first job (in Academic writing at least) landed much more than 3$ a page. Considering I never wrote a commercial paper before that (just my own college work), i'd say your clients will not be fortunate. But, maybe there are plenty of writers with extraordinary English skills and the capacity to write well structured papers, who are willing to work for 3$ PP.

Laughed so hard! You're very funny, did anybody tell you that?

Don't you know McFatsons is bad for your health?

Thank you captain

Stupidity is strong in this one, he will become a Daft Verber

I do believe we are being trolled, so I shall excuse myself from this party and go play backgammon :D

Not that it's any of my business, but is there a reason why this account got terminated? This is essayscam after all, so either you cheated him/her, or he/she cheated you/customer, in some way.

Is this from the 2013 Martian English grammar? I knew I had to buy that damn book..........


LOL

That's not true, not completely anyway. There ARE some legit services out there, but they don't charge silly rates like the sites you mention (and other of that sort). They are either a) scam, or b) below-par work when compared to legit services.

LOL. Completely untraceable.
I do hope you deal with him properly. That sort only causes problems.

On another note.

I haven't been around for long, but from what i've read, and heard, it is clear that you are one of the few "sane" people on this forum. Sad to see you go, for whatever reason.

This type of discourse will probably get trashed by the local "flag-bearers" but whatever, it's my honest opinion.

***sorry for double posting, I tend to forget the "edit" button***

If you are referring to writing companies, I sincerely doubt there are such. But working for a (reputable!!!) company pretty much means you are safe and sound money-wise.

Aside from that, this is a board that aims to reveal scams in the industry, so I doubt anyone will openly direct you. Try searching the Web, and then compare with known scam companies (most of which can be found here, if you dig enough).

If the above was true,


you would have no need for help. What you are asking is not only illegal (maybe it isn't but sure seems it is), but more importantly unethical. If you cannot pass their test, you should not be writing. Period.

And that means you are entitled to cheating?

Congratulations! Now let Paypal catch the SOB. At least you can sleep calm tonight!

Seriously? You post this on essayscam.org and that doesn't ring a bell of warning (to look like a total idiot) in your brain?


Then tell the mod to sticky it, much better solution than simply slandering somebody else (despite the obvious joy you and w2b take in mutual provocations)


Your self-righteousness is appalling, and interestingly amusing at the same time. It is also indication of a severe Narcissistic personality disorder. You really ought to go and check that.

Although I don't engage in the type of discourse that appears to be usual here, I do understand the difference between you two. If I didn't, I would've approached the topic differently.

What she does is really not my concern, nor do I really care. The only difference being,* you actually contribute useful information (which saved my skin several times - even before I was registered), and she simply talks crap.

My facts are straight. Thanks

I thought about putting his full name but since I have no proof, I rather not. If you are interested, PM me, I will provide it. In case the guy really is blameless, it would be stupid to drag his name and academic record on this forum, don't you think? I am just interested in finding out if some other writer came across similar pattern, that's all.

As for your "answer", I will try and avoid any "meaning" you may have attributed to it.

First mail is hotmail.co.uk, and the other one is @aberdeen.co.uk. I imagine he is using a proxy yes, but still, why hide your location if you have nothing to hide?

Archie Hope did the same, he sent mails from several different mails, one of which was a major UK university label. Don't remember which, and too lazy to search.

Erm, moderator. The title should read: "Anybody out there dealt with this client".

Thanks

Indeed, if you come here and proclaim others don't command the English language, and realize not that you yourself lack in it severely, you my friend, are disturbed.

That's all grand, but you can't solicit writers on this board. You have Essaychat.com for that.

Just a hint, although 99 already told you this - 8$ pp won't get you a good writer for you dissertation. You will get mediocre/low quality work at best.

And you completely miss my point no.1. Do not solicit writers here. Against TOS.

Yup, sure.

I am not interested in your sexual preferences, sorry.

Being polite in mails is something I find extremely important, but I understand your point FW - even though I don't agree with it.

As for the scam part, there are only a handful of legitimate private writers, and FW is one of them. Regardless of what you say. I am relatively new to this game (well, not so much anymore), but I've been around long enough to know who can and cannot be trusted.

Yes, oh all mighty know it all forum troll! You are right.

This is true, but these rates are charged by ESL writers, in most cases, or by those who have only recently entered the market. Legitimate and experienced US/UK writers (at least those that I know) - like FW pointed out, charge much more, and their rates are usually same/similar to those of major US/UK companies.

Try jazz or slow instrumental.

What I can tell you is this

a. He is a legitimate writer - when I can't do a contract, or am overflowed, he is one of the 4 writers I can turn to (with confidence).

b. Don't listen to stu4, he is the resident clown

Honesty is cool and all, but if you are honest, and deliver crap, the client will still fly away to another birdy that gives better (and possibly even more expensive) eggs. As for the prices, legit (and good) writers have nothing to fear, their prices can only go up.

[Moved from]:

Raging extortion ring on EssayChat

In the last two weeks I came in contact with two students who were scammed. The origin of the scam is Nairobi (or so I was told). I did not investigate, but I believed at least one of the two students. The scammers, I was told, finish the order, and then ask for large sums in order to keep the clients privacy - somewhere around Ł500.

I implore students to
- not give their personal information to writers (situation is different with companies, I know, but there's a post somewhere about that)
- not use their own PayPal address for fund transfer (at least not in the first go, later, when trust is established there's little to fear)

- use extreme caution when ordering for the first time - order only small paper at first (this advice has been given repeatedly on this site, but still)

IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS SCAM RING, PLEASE SHARE IT HERE

IF ANYONE HAS ANY USEFUL ADVICE ON HOW TO AVOID SCAMS SHARE IT HERE.

and finally, if anyone has a burning desire to trash this post...go ahead. This is meant only as a warning for students, to help them avoid scams.

Yeah, that can be a pain, and it can put a strain on relationship between the writer and the client. Nevertheless, extortion (in the sense that I was led to understand in this particular case) is never a viable option. Again, whether or not the story is true I cannot say, since I have no evidence. All I know is what I was told - by two separate sources. I believe one of them, the other not so much.

I'll leave investigation to others, who may have interest in such things, as I have neither the time nor the will to conduct it.

In any case, STUDENTS - stay on your toes at all times.

I honestly don't know if you're being serious or not, but I'm inclined to think that you are.

It could be that you're not aware of the implications your statement bears, but that only makes it worse.....since that proves you are unable to formulate a coherent sentence, let alone "write" a research paper...

I think you're still a bit confused


I only wish I write could you like I be able to, then money pour me down from heaven.........
Who knows, maybe they need a script for Yoda in Star Wars............

I don't think there's a writer out there who is foolish enough to believe that clients actually change the paper (heck, I think some of them don't even read the stuff). However, when I say that I offer only model papers, I mean it. Not because I want to "sleep", but because I don't want to expose myself legally. This business is a puddle of mud, nobody ever claimed otherwise.


It is not possible to guarantee any grade, let alone an A. You are either fooling yourself or your clients. Teachers, and you would know this if you had any experience in academia, grade students subjectively, based on criteria which is neither consistent, nor coherent. So how can you guarantee that you'll be able to adhere to someone's subjective view? You can't. I don't think that any writer (who holds his reputation to some standard at least) offers such guarantees. Besides, I think its illegal, since it implies your service is not intended to be used as a model paper, but rather as a direct submission - if you're unlucky enough, someone might actually sue you. I am not sure on this, but there are lawyers, and people who are far more experienced than me here who can explain it better.