The iron chains in your brain are too rusty now because you're dreaming of me even in a thread where I have not posted. You know you're so hilarious a person especially when you beg for cheap attention. Why do you waste so much time in doing nothing but speak utter nonsense? Get a life bro! Stop cyber-stalking me.

Now, don't make a post in which you so ridiculously try to impress me (and the random visitor) by making a fake show of your bravery saying that you had weapons drawn at someone in your school. Lolz!

This is a Ukrainian company because the visitors are from two countries only, Ukraine, US and Kenya. How they control the traffic is another story. Second, the web copy is full of basic English errors, and some are of very serious nature. For instance, the headline states "for only $7,5* per page" and elsewhere "Rich your goal".

Your litmus test, however, has kind of empirically proven that there is a lot of misrepresentation. Looking at the UI, I am of the opinion that 'possibly' it is being run by just one person or something like that because the website has been developed with a ready-made template. Whois record is also private. Majority of reviews of Edusson that are published online are fake and non genuine (not a surprise if you ask me).

Affiliated with EduBirdie and Essayvikings.com.

Search results can at times bring 'fabricated research', i.e. paid reviews pointing to an all-good reputation of a company. However, as Google does not control all of the world's search, a company, no matter how big it is, cannot just throw everything positive about them no matter what technological strategies they employ.

Therefore, looking around is always a good idea. But, it seems that most of the people looking for custom essay assistance, are in a hurry and can be easily lured into the traps set by these companies. This is why every other day we have new stories of people being scammed.

Lolz!

This is sad to learn. Over the Internet, I wonder, how easy it is to get away with serious fraud/misrepresentation. How many people have been/are being affected on a daily basis is just anybody's guess.

Thanks for your invaluable contribution, but it is a bit too late.

I can see that the censorship is coming along gradually to the administrative matters of the forum. Maybe I should say that such a move has already too late because so much water has passed under the bridge of bullying and unnecessary arrogance.

If the forum were run with properly laid down guidelines, there is no doubt it would flourish once again because more and more people would be able to contribute to its growth. Right now, the conditions are such that new members do not find much room in the forum, and the seniors are keeping at bay.

I do not think that calling names, bullying, and similar unethical ways of interaction benefit a discussion at length. This I am saying WITHOUT pointing to anyone in particular. So, do not take offense, anyone!

Certainly, anyone visiting the forum has their own agendas, perspectives, standpoints, or anything. The point is that, probably, it is the MEANINGFULNESS of the discussions that should follow so that it benefits everyone in general.

Most probably, a forum full of derogatory expressions, irrelevant (and certainly unnecessary) fights, show of arrogance, will not attract a serious visitor looking for some solid assistance.

Haha, looks like I hit you right in the place: Where your hollow ego sits. You're an online bully in the right sense. You never go against those who kick your sorry behind; you've cleverly become party with those you were against at some point. The saddest thing is you've lost all of your allies here.

Now, all you want, just like any other bullies in real life, is find a weaker person you can bully on to satisfy your sadistic obsession while saving your behind from those who can kick you. That's why you bemoan in vain to pick fights with anyone and mostly the polite person, FLW.

You have ALWAYS pointed out my English being of low standards by using very derogatory terms always. This simply shows you have not even the slightest feelings about others' self-respect.

Though my English may have certain deviations from standard American dialect, the fact is that not only FLW but even WB and Major have come to terms with it. It is manifest that they've put me in some position and have accepted me the way I am. If someone still finds it a matter of being amused, it's you because you need someone to bully on always.

I am 100% sure you were bullied some real bad in your childhood. You're such a disgrace to yourself. I have LONG ago stopped dirtying my hands with you because you're without feelings.

You've lost all your energies in trying to belittle others.

MODs, I would appreciate if you could notice his incessant bullying pointed out to me most of the times I post and randomly at others. I hope you understand that bullying members can result in loss of traffic.

Thanks for the lesson but, unfortunately, I do not need it.

Okay, you can sure disrespect me because my English does not sound American to you. However, you're wrong in saying that you disrespect me because of my English alone.

The evidence is just right above: You openly pick fights with other native writers. There are too many to quote. The point is that you're one egotistical, arrogant, and most of all, misbehaving individual who is never ready to admit his fault. I won't respond to your post any further for the same reason: I do not have time to waste.

Your clarification comes at the right time. It has happened to me in the past too. I think the moderators should ask a member permission before doing so because it's in a way using and probably manipulating their virtual reputation without their consent.

So the last part of my post above was rightly raised though not toward you!


I was trying to motivate other fellow freelance writers like yourself. Have you forgotten the value of dreaming big? When would you learn to respect others?

I think a freelance writer is, in the first place, accountable to their professional ethics and conscience. To say that they can run away easily is probably too naive. Yes, adventurous or scamming freelance writers may do so; however, for a dedicated freelance writer, it may not be possible because their livelihood depends on this profession which puts them into a critical position, i.e. to not scam ever, maintain quality, be communicative, etc.

More importantly, a freelance writer is an entrepreneur in the first place. So, I would find it save to infer that at least most, if not all, of the essay writing companies being run today have CEOs that probably worked as freelance writers at some point in their life just like Michael Dell, William Henry, etc.

Though FLW has already built a very good case above, I would just add that being a freelance writer has its minuses, and one of these is that we cannot have a vacation that frees us from our workload.

Freelance writers are not in competition with the companies; I think both operate in their distinct niches. Both have distinctive strengths and downsides. It's the customer that has to decide which way to go. As of today, as freelance writers still operate (if I am allowed to include myself too!), I think all the companies can do is bemoan at the fact, haha.

Last, I am of the opinion that, most probably, this thread was created to instill some life in the sluggishly going forum these days. :->

I couldn't agree more though I am also an ESL writer. Most probably, some people do not pay attention to the we copy because they might be too pressed for time. Or, it is also possible, given the sophisticated and highly interactive interface of the website, that they readily assume that this website is legit.

Did s/he explain the criteria (if any) applied to reach these suggestions?

India has a three-language formula or language policy. A child in a school anywhere in India, at least as postulated in its language policy, is expected to learn 1) his/her state language, for social integration at the local level; 2) Hindi, for national integration and upward socioeconomic mobility within the country; and 3) English, for global and national communication and upward socioeconomic mobility.

India presents the MOST linguistically diverse and culturally dynamic case to the entire world from prehistoric times to this day. The greatly diverse fabric of Indian linguistic repertoire has offered unique language situations to linguists so much so that there are concepts in linguistics (the filed of studying languages) that are identified with India only: Sprachbund is one such concept.

That said, unfortunately, the hegemony of the ruling elite has continued, and a limited number of people can be considered (according to credible research) actually fluent in English though its middle-class is steadily rising. Because India has the largest human population on earth, its elite and educated middle-class can easily outnumber many countries' populations.

Pakistan can be regarded a mini-version of India because it was once part of India in the recent past. However, there are striking differences between the sociopolitical cultures of both the countries.

So, it is possible for someone to run into an Indian writer who can write fluently; however, as FLW noted above, there may be some visible linguistic deviations that will sound unfamiliar to a person not acquainted with such deviations. This does not just include the native English speakers from the U.S. or U.K., it can also be equally applicable to another ESL context such as Pakistan. Since we do not share many such linguistic deviations with the Indians (though we have our own; much like the U.S. and the U.K. idiosyncrasies and idiolects), reading an Indian writer rings a bell.

6 years have elapsed, and the post we get in return does not have much to offer. How sad!

Okay.

I got your point. Most probably, hiring writers is not an issue for a company; however, the question is if all they hire is the native English writers from US and elsewhere.

I understand your point.

I hope you're earning much more now. I think this per page compensation is a relative thing that involves a number of variables beyond native language. The simplest example may be your assessment of the level of difficulty a writing task carries. 10 writers might suggest 10 different price tags for the same task because, due to relative factors, they see it differently.

Probably, it is these variables/factors that impact any writer to react differently to a task at hand. So, probably, the American writers who you found working for as low as $9 a page may have been influenced by the relativity in this area.

I am convinced that skills in our industry sell for much more when you know how to position yourself and create greater perceived value.

Positioning yourself as a premium writer is much more convenient when you work as a freelance geek than for a company which would never want you to demand an increment only because they found your work pleasantly satisfactory. So they usually want more out of you.

One thing I usually wonder about is that how a misrepresenting writer can continue to maintain his/her fake identity throughout the contract/transaction that essentially involves certain identity disclosure phases such as money transfer. I am not aware of any e-commerce platforms that do not verify a person's identity via several checks.

I put up this suggestion in the original post above that was inspired by a piece of comment made by you. I didn't mean to drag/develop it here. Hope you understand.

I don't think legit writers need to remain anonymous or they even do so (at least the ones I am in contact with). My clients know me very well.

I am not generalizing but being in this industry has taught me one thing: You never know who's who. To say that a company is really originally from the UK, i.e. if it is registered there, has a physical address there, and, MOST importantly, if it really operates being in the UK, can be a very big thing.

It is a general observation that most every company in this business has freelance writers hired from around the globe. I cannot mention the names here, but, (as is common knowledge here on this forum), the top-notch players in this industry (based in the US at least), have EXPLICITLY mentioned on their websites that they hire 'qualified' writers from around the globe.

The point is, as has been admitted by almost all the members of this forum over a long period of time, the qualified writers is what matters.

So may be your initial niche is to land a legit company regardless of its physical location. Trust me all the students from the US and the UK (as from elsewhere) do not really know if a company they're placing an order with is REALLY from the UK/US/Aus. Most end up.... (Hope my ellipses is meaningful enough).

Haha! Wait for your chump the Mighty Queen to jump in.

It's a register (field-specific phrase) coined by W2B to denote the (much) lower writing standard/skills ESL (those who use English as a Second language) writers seem to demonstrate in the custom essay industry and/or elsewhere. EFL (users of English as a foreign language) can also be included in this group.

It's not really assertions; most of it comes from my homework that I continue to do because it is good to keep informed. However, I am not saying I am 100% correct or well-informed. I maybe wrong.

Second, FLW, Flukes, and even you have somewhat endorsed this statement I made. Third, I stated that I wanted to learn from others' experience which means I am saying it out loud that I do not know everything.

Last, please learn to argue with reasons only. Do not give the reader an impression (by using derogatory phrases) that you've failed to understand what it means to argue with reasons.


This part-time thing skipped my attention above :).

I have been thinking about this thing: how important it is for a client to 'keep in touch' with their writer (freelance or someone at a company).

I am aware that while most of the freelance writers here and, most probably, elsewhere reply 'in person' to their clients, most of the companies (legit at least) have managerial filters through which such communication transits, and it is eventually slower. Second, at most companies (if not all) writers' and clients' identities are hidden from one another as if to carry it to the grave.

Would that be a good idea to start a thread around this topic to learn from the experiences of clients, writers, and, possibly, from some company reps?

My fallible interpretation of the original question:

If, at last, I gather enough courage to write myself a persuasive essay for my high school language arts class, then would it not be more rational to first do a detailed homework to produce a masterpiece that can baffle the world?

If you think I've made a solid point, would you mind sharing with me a few resources from where I can get this information.

Very interesting experiences indeed!

FYI: Yes, there really are!

Just wondering if you mean the female writers who have been writing or you mean all the writers regardless of their gender...?

Different freelance writers and companies have their own standards as to how many words mean 1 page to them.

However, one thing remains the same across all the writers and companies: they charge on the basis of words divided by the total number of words that they believe makes up for 1 page, i.e. 1100 words / 275 words = 4 pages.

Most frequently, I have come across 275 words as one page or 300 words as one page offered by different companies and writers.

Yet, a majority have the 275-word length as the standard one page.

Double-spaced, Times New Roman or Ariel type faces, 1" margin on all four sides of the sheet, are usually the requirements from most of the institutions.

So, these have also been added to the standard page length norms.

So, I think most of us might mean one page as: 275 words, Times New Roman, double-spaced, 1" margin on all four sides.

I also follow the same word length as one page.

You will find a lot of meaningful information about some decent/legit companies here (on this forum). Second, once you've shortlisted a few companies, try initiating a chat with their customer care personnel. You will get a better idea about their legitimacy. This forum is full of such chats. Reviewing them can also be helpful.

More importantly, try googling the name of the company you want to choose with a few keywords (e.g., scam, complaints, dissatisfied customer, poor quality, etc.) that should return any negative/positive reviews. Do not, however, include "reviews" in the search because then you'll be presented with targeted traffic.

But, please keep in mind that even the best products/businesses in the world have dissatisfied customers. So, the point is gaining a holistic view about which one is legit and which not. Naturally, a legit company should have more satisfied than dissatisfied customers.

Once you're satisfied with your search, try placing a smaller order with that company and pay careful attention to everything: the email replies, the way they treat the factor of time, your order, the neatness/crudeness with which the paper is done, and most importantly the language and accuracy of the work. A responsible company is good at these areas.

Almost all that I have discussed above is already available on this forum: hardly any new information.

Since the flow of skills like website development, etc. has increased globally, most every website today presents quite attractive interfaces, layouts, and designs. So, it is now a thing of past to say that because the website looks great, they company must be genuine. It may not be so.

Hope this helps you some.

So what you're saying can be interpreted as follows:

Yours is a startup business but with a committed team of writers. How should clients know you're legit and provide high-quality product? They should read the reviews provided on your website.

A brilliant formula to get attention. However, it's a cliche now. Say something different.

Most probably, this is the higher side of the per-page compensation. What about the lower end? $2 a page?

Cyber thieves.

Given that Ed75 is out for self-promotion:


his evidence-based point that your nearly 500 posts:


present a very different scenario for the readers.

You've made an incredibly higher number of posts, no doubt, in such short time.

Would that be possible for us to learn about your story? What really happened is what we're interested in knowing.

An account of a manifest scam. I wonder if you did any basic research before applying to them. Second, I would suggest that you spread the word out and do anything possible to fight for your rights. But it feels bad to learn about your story.

I don't understand why you would keep a team of editors. Just wondering if your writers lack necessary language skills, do they? In that case, yours are most probably with underdeveloped skills because to date I think all of the senior writers here and elsewhere I know do the editing themselves whether freelance or tied to a company.

This is an interesting post to read, and the reply by Major. Sometimes the nature of scam in this industry makes me laugh at the kind of tricks people use to scam.

I would look forward to seeing your question addressed as well.