None of these sites, including allwriter are sensible. They do not have ENL writers, they work out of Asia or the Middle East, and they run a cyber slave labor camp in reference to their writers. The writers are overworked, never paid due wages, do not deliver the salaries on time, the problems with these companies are endless. Do not make one criminal out to be better than the other, they are all criminals just the same.

There you have it guys. It seems the scam companies are starting to become litigious. Beware what you say, they may come after you next, even if ES works with them and modifies the post you made. It is time to stop the name calling, unwarranted accusations, and baseless comments. Use logic, reasoning, and opinion based discussion instead. This new presentation type will not only protect you from lawsuits, but it will also help make the board a more peaceful and friendly place to have discussions about these questionable writers and companies. Don't use arguments, use civilized debates instead.

You already did. By posting these information and images from the server, you not only defamed the person, you violated the confidentiality of the server. I am not sure who the bigger criminal is in this case, you or the company. I know why you posted those images, you are hoping that by pretending to be on the level and warning students, you can get direct clients for yourself. However, based on these actions, no student should hire you. Why? If you had no problem violating the trust of the company you work for as a writer, you definitely won't think twice about blackmailing a student based on information you will be acquiring as a part of the order completion process.

I find that yes, the older students tend to pass on the legacy of certain writing companies onto the juniors. It is no big deal to them since they were all in the position of the juniors once before. These juniors fill the client slots as the senior clients graduate. There is usually a sense of familiarity and camaraderie among my writers, myself, and the new clients since we tend to create a special community for ourselves, leading to a fantastic working relationship with one another.

The problem, is that the companies that engage non-contract or contractual writers apply bait and switch systems upon their writers. What their websites say are actually different from the actual experience of the writer once hired. It is imperative to point out that the slave driver companies often have the best work relationship descriptions and writer benefit promises. More often than not, once the writer realizes that the promises and benefits mean nothing, it is already too late for the writer to back out of the contractual or non-contractual agreement (due to work completed)

The writer pretty much covered all of the disguises that the shills use to get around the no-advertising or recommendations allowed ruling of the forum. These people all come to the forum on a regular basis, and always get chased out because they do not know how to deal with the independent writers here. Eventually, this forum will be populated by a gang of writers who believe that this place is their dominion and even legitimate companies and writers will no longer have a place here. They've gotten too used to bullying the other users who may pose a threat to their independent writing gigs. This forum will no longer be a place for free speech and free enterprise, they will see to it.

The problem is, the post sounded more like it was geared towards enticing fellow students to at least look into the company. The wording and word placements sounded like the person posting was instructed to write in a certain way. So I am guessing that the OP was a paid hack. He came to this forum to just do his job and get paid for it. However, the old guards blew his cover and that was that.

Nobody ever bothered to ask where the OP was originally located. It sounds to me like he was merely buying a US office address off the web to establish a US presence, which is what all the scam companies do. He never said he was using US based and educated writers, which means the address is a scam and the quality of writing would be suspect as well. There was nothing about his inquiry that would confirm that he was setting up a legitimate US address for his writing company using US educated writers.

The references have always been a problem for most academic writers. It used to be that one could use a reference provided it was not over 5 years from the date of first publication. However, the speed by which information has been updating has changed this schedule. Now, I ask my writers to use information no later than 3 years, just to be sure that the information is still relevant. They must also do pertinent research to prove their information as accurate by verifying it with at least 2 other sources before they can use it. As for blogs. I instructed my QAD to always return the paper to the writer the minute any information comes up as having been sourced from a blog. Not only is that highly an inaccurate source of information, there is no way of proving the claims. Nobody really knows if the writer who claims to have a PhD actually has a Phd. Hence the reason by even professors do not accept blog references in any sort of paper.

Looks like the student was satisfied with both companies services. Otherwise, he would have been screaming to the heavens on this forum already. Sometimes, the companies that ask students to underpay actually deliver good work. Sure most of them are scams, but there are some that can be considered honest to a certain extent. The student most likely falls under the ESL category and would be satisfied with any paper that did not get him an F in class. Those are the students that these companies find the easiest to satisfy. I guess he ordered from two companies based on the lowest bid. I am sure he asked for quotes from both companies. He went with both, depending upon the cost of each paper.

Yep, that is the trademark of the scam companies. They claim to have already started the work so they cannot refund your payment anymore or, you will receive only a partial refund, which is never going to come. You should have listened to the earlier warnings and not proceeded to place an order with that company. There are just some students who are beyond help. So when the inevitable happens, all we can say is; "We told you so!"

So do you feel the need to constantly thrash the writers here? If you have a good job and you are satisfied with it, you should not find the people here a threat. We are all just trying to make a living after all. There is no logic to your actions. If you are not related to the academic field, then why are you using such a foul mouth to "speak" to the writers here? What does that do for you? What satisfaction do you get from it?

Hahaha! One satisfied client and you think that you have what it takes to service the whole writing field? The other independent writers here will have you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Do not brag until you have actually established a good reputation with at least 50 reviews, posted in independent sites such as ES by actual students and not your paid hacks. One satisfied client cannot be the basis for the reliability of your company. There is no client satisfaction basis with just a single satisfied client, who was probably ESL and did not know the difference between a good paper and trash writing.

Considering hawking yourself directly to the client? You know that is a no, no. A mere comment on the actual usability of the two companies would have been better appreciated by the user. Your response was totally off target. Which is why I suspect you are here not to help the students, but to run a scam yourself.

He was being sarcastic, which I think was lost on you since your supposedly more sarcastic response was ill effective. It would have been better if you just did not say anything since you had nothing useful to add to the conversation / debate/ argument / textual fighting going on. It is enough that the students were warned and this idiot was placed on the defensive. Nobody who uses ES would use his services after that written lashing.

The company has a rotating door of unpaid writers. They keep hiring writers, regardless of their inability to write in English simply because they do not have any intention of paying the writers anyway. The poor souls from the third world countries believe that they will eventually get paid, so they continue to work long after the first month's salary has been owed to them. Some of them count thousands of dollars in unpaid work towards the end. They scam on both sides of the aisle, the students on one side and the writers on the other.

Aside from shaming the client and making it impossible for him to use the paper by posting the essay publicly, there isn't much you can do. Since the business is mostly based on an honor code, if one party chooses to not honor the agreement, then you are pretty much sunk. Unless, you know the full name, school, student ID number, course, and professor's name. Then you can probably try to file an academic dishonesty complaint with the proper academic authorities. I have yet to see a writer successfully bring forth an academic case to a university though.

You are right about that. However, it should make the student think about the potential of the company to actually deliver the paper in understandable English. It should also make the potential client question the writing abilities of the company writers. Additionally, the QAD will be called into question since they let such bad copy get past them and onto the live page.

They are getting it from the very students who pay to have "original" papers written for them. The company may or may not inform the student that the paper that was written for them did not transfer to them as intellectual property, and the company reserves such right to the paper and any future use it might be required for. That is why it is important that students who hire services ask about the transfer or rights regarding the paper. Make sure you own the rights so that the paper will not show up on some database in the future, endangering your ability to graduate on time (if at all).

Oh yes there are. ES is one of them. There are trustpilot, sitejabber, and other independent review sites that allow actual users, and shills to post reviews, both positive and negative about a certain company. Those are the most impartial reviews you can get. Although a bit clouded due to paid posters, the negative reviews are what the student should be looking at as those are the most accurate reference points for the service. Paid negative review or not, the more negatives there are in the review list, the more possible it is that actual students have written the review.

In this business, you can typically wait up to 2 weeks to be contacted by the company. If you are successfully hired, you should receive a phone call for your final interview. If you are not hired, you should know that within 2 weeks. They simply won't bother to contact you at all. Although, I work differently, hired or not, the person receives an email from my HR department, just so he won't keep hoping and expecting. Yes, I also respect the feelings of the people who fail to make it as a writer at my company.

New writers can expect to have limited access to orders at the company servers. Order visibility access increases over time, depending upon how in demand you are as a writer and, if there is a quick return on the investment the company makes in you (spelled: no refunds). You cannot expect to gain access to the complete server immediately. You will see your possible choices increasing as you also take on more and more complicated papers at the server. Do a good job, avoid refunds and penalties, and you should see more orders appearing in your server listing over time. It isn't about seniority all the time. I have senior writers whom I have granted limited access to the server because they have not been proven to be able to write academically beyond a certain type of paper.

Or maybe trying to encourage civilized discussion in the forum threads would work better? Personally, I would not allow any kind of cussing on a forum I own, specially one dedicated to education because that does not portray the participants in a good light. What is the sense in teaching kids to "use your words" when the adults cannot use their words effectively unless cussing each other out? What does that prove? What does that accomplish? Nothing, just further disgust and divide in a forum that should otherwise be united under one cause, stopping scam writers and sites from victimizing students on a regular basis.

Classic essays is owned by Alex Muriuki. He has been known for quite some time in the academic writing circles as a scumbag and rip-off artist. He is conscious of the negative reviews for both his company and himself as he sees it all the time online. Growing with every passing day. However, the stupid students who still consider his services just ask him if the news if true and once he says it is fake, they hire him on the spot. Stupid kids. Only idiots would ignore the warning signs all over the web about this guy. The students get what they deserve.

Never go with a company that trolled you on the boards. These are companies that can tell when a writer can be scammed into working for them, just like they can scam clients to place orders with them. A company that seeks you out, specially if you have posted on ES, is not after your talent, they are after your gullibility as evidenced by your previous posts. Do not fall for it. This can only end badly for you.

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? I mean, you have never spoken professionally to anyone on this board at any given time. Why is that? What has made you so angry with the world that you cannot find a kind thing to say about anybody or anything? Sure you do not like competition, but can't you fight using words that show you are not educationally challenged nor morally bankrupt?

I take it that Melissa eventually gave up the writing business and went into something more worthwhile for her. Since the domains were placed up for sale, she most likely needed the money to pay for refunds and other business related expenses. She could not keep up the financial side of the business so she gave up. I have always believed that enemies are taken down naturally. They eventually dig themselves into a hole they cannot get out of unless they give up on something that they thought they would never have to.

The domain name is no longer on the market, but isn't active on the academic writing front either. My guess is that somebody reserved the name, hoping to start up the business, without realizing that the company had a bad reputation prior to the purchase. Once it was found out, the person that now owns the domain decided not to use it, yet. Who knows, we might get surprised and see this company active again at some time in the future since schools are beginning to open internationally and the demand for academic writers will once again be revived.

I guess the OP was just trying to let his frustrations out for some reason. There was really no point to his post other than to try to harm other writers at this forum, which is not what this forum was meant to do. ES is supposed to help students avoid being scammed. However, if students opt to be scammed, that is another issue. Everyone is entitled to make a living. How they make their living is their business. In this case, the writers in question may or may not be delivering on their client orders. That is none of our business anymore.

The company still exists today even though they are well known con artists within the student communities. For some reason, they still manage to get some sort of clients on a regular basis. I think this is because they are focused on gaining ESL clients rather than actual proper college level students. ESL students will be glad to get merely a passing score in their papers. They don't care about the quality as long as they do not fail. That, is the main reason why companies like these continue to exist in the 21st century.

Truth be told, I have seen instructional letters from clients asking my writers to dumb down their writing because their English grasp is L2 level. No problem with that. It is important to deliver the client requirements as indicated. If I need to find an L2 writer in my roster, then that is what I do. There are no stupid foreigners writing in English as far as I am concerned. That is because ESL students will never require a L1 level of English writing. They fear that they will get caught for having hired someone else to write their papers.

No on both counts. The company is quite well known for its expertise in plagiarizing other published work either through actual plagiarism or, simple cut and paste plagiarism. This is the reason why the students normally avoid hiring this company. They did have some good writers at one time, they eventually left the company due to unfair plagiarism accusations, ending up working at other companies. Yes, I hired some of their previous writers. These were the writers who passed my company plagiarism test that is given to all applicant writers. They actually managed to create a steady income and client base for themselves once they were handled by a fair minded company.

That's true. Oftentimes, students haggle the payment costs and schedules upfront. As an independent writer how and when you get paid all depends upon the schedule that you agree to with the client. It is normal to receive at least 25 % upfront, with the balance being paid over time, normally prior to the submission of the final half of the paper.

How exactly did this happen? When a person writes such an explosive title, I expect the actual posting to have more "meat" to the accusations. Presentation of facts and actual experience depictions often help prove the case of the student. In this instance, I fail to see how such screaming accusations prove a point, warn the students, or make itself of any use in terms of considering the work quality of a company.

I believe that the writers do this intentionally. Most writers, who know that they are writing model papers that could be submitted for a grade tend to muddle some parts to force the student to fix the paper and add their "voice" to the final version. This allows the paper to come across more attuned to the writing style of the student, rather than being obviously written by someone else and then submitted. The teachers and professors tend to immediately catch on to such submissions. So the writer actually did this student a favor in this case.

This was definitely an advertisement that got past the admin of this forum. Or, maybe, just maybe, they knew it was an advertisement but decided to let it stay since it wasn't a blatant ad directed at students. The pretense of being posted by a student is probably what made them keep the thread visible. If it isn't blatant, then it falls through the cracks right? Anyway, I do not think this advertisement helped the company get any students. The presentation really wasn't any good and did not do a good job of building itself into the SEO requirements.

It may not seem complex to you, but can be daunting to others. So don't go making other students feel inferior to you just because they have a different opinion or approach to methodologies. How dare you do that. You are not the best writer on the planet and nobody made you the god of SPSS. Remember that we are entitled to our own opinions and nobody, should judge us by the statements that we make. You should have respected her opinion and not said anything about it.

You know this is BS. You are helping students work the system. You even offer to write in their manner just so the teacher will not find out. Well, guess what? The teachers have ways of finding out when a paper is not written by the student, regardless of how well the ghost writer penned the paper. Stop trying to deceive students. You do not operate within the academic laws of universities. You probably do not work within the legal framework of businesses either. You are not a good company to deal with because you are not helping students but rather, endangering their chances of finishing their studies at whatever level they might be.

Most likely because it is owned by the same company and run by the same people. They did not bother to change the interface because they come from a country that doesn't have much by way of investments. I bet they borrowed heavily to start their business and, because the original company became known as a fraud, they needed to set up another online storefront, just to try and keep their business running. These Filipinos really don't seem to be a bright bunch of people. They don't even know how to run a proper scam. Hahaha!

Got any evidence to prove this? As a wide spreading claim, you should be able to prove your accusations. Otherwise, you have just libeled 500 companies. Although you did not make mention of any company in particular, any company could take offense and claim you just ruined their business. The partial listing of companies you presented further proves the libel case. Those companies could sue you and possibly get away with it too. Regardless of whether your claims are true or not, it is important to ensure that you cover yourself legally when you make such claims.