@strugglingstudent
WB had an overinflated sense of self- importance. She failed to realize that nobody asked her to spend her time looking into company histories. Not that many people cared about the evidence either. They only cared to get a writer for their papers. These reports did little for them because they were not tenacious without cause, in proving company ownerships. Yes, the information is useful, but only for people who cared about it. Even then, there were those who decided to use the services anyway. They preferred to take a chance just the same.

@happy gal
Nice positive review. It's just that you are making a claim within a thread that already has negative comments for the site and service. You therefore, need to back-up your claims with evidence. Show proof that you are a student and not a paid poster here. We have a lot of salespeople posing as students here so getting proof that you are not misrepresenting facts would be great. Note that WB didn't even try to keep this thread going. That's because nobody here gave her something to work with. Which, is a good thing for all of us.

Why not? She made no recommendations, she made noreference to direct independent writers, she broke no rules at this forum. Everyone, please remember that this person is not the one who makes the rules here. Any regulations that appears to come from this person in the past, or in the future should this person come back, is invalid. This person has not authorized by the forum owners or mods to create or implement wles at this site. None of us are allowed to do that.

@carrie4tungtung
The caller knew you were pranking them, which is why he hung up on you. I am wondering how you managed to pull the prank on them. Do you have a burner phone? Or you used your oommates number? These companies tend to keep client related data on the long term. They would have immediately identified your number and ignored the order. Maybe you got a newbie at the company which is why your prank worked.

By the way, how did the refund go? You forgot to tell us how it ended for you. Here's hoping you got at least the 50% refund. These guys mostly don't do even partials ' regardless of their promises.

They actually do and still continue that practice. There are 2 types of plagiarism as far as they are concerned. The first, is the client proven plagiarism based on academically approved plagiarism checkers. Then,there is their in-house software that detects pronouns, verbs, contractions, among others as plagiarism. Their most plagiarized word? The. Go figure.

What WB's intentions truly were for all the pointless whistleblowing that went on here in the past shall remain a mystery. Whether she owned a site or not, or if she was part owner in this forum is relevant. The username though, carries a negative reputation as a troublemaker in most circles that I have joined, just to get to knowthe history of the person. The profile name is memorable, not iconic, for all the wrong reasons. If I were WB, I would be ashamed that most people remember me with spite and disgust.

That is no longer so. Reliable journalism ended when B.0. came into office as 44. Journalism is now for sale for the right price or, the highest bidder. Journalism has nothing to do with academic writing. Neither does it relate to the academic writing company owners. One they deceitful? Not all of them. Do they lie? Yes. Do they stretch the truth? Maybe. All in the name of business promotion. Does any of the information presented matter to the student who just wants a paper completed? Nope. Notin the leastbit.

That usually happens because the other site skills are desperately trying to advertise their company by stealing potential clients from other companies. Thanks for taking the time to getthe topic back on track, no matter how old the thread is. It is always helpful to some student reading this forum.


Don't apologize you were notrecommending your company directly. Rather, you were responding to the OP with useful information, as required. The mods will never have a problem with useful posts that are not direct recommendations. Now, as for the shills, they are a totally different case.

Talk about false assumptions paraded as fact. This lack of proper investigation and lack of verified evidence presentation is precisely why false claims tend to proliferate here. Never present information based on a hunch. That is hurtful to other people's reputation and business. Make statements you can support with evidence that can be backed up by other evidence. But don't make up evidence either just to carry on with the deceit.

It is easy to make such claims. However merely providing screenshots of evidence is not enough to convince me. I need the name of the investigating committee. the agent on the case or, if an actual case has been filed as a part of the investigation, the case number. The name of the actual plaintiff would be even better. One thing the internet has done is allow anonymity to protect bullies. Such is the case here. My own investigations leads me to believe that when this person was still active here, all this person did was make up complaints and evidence. Why? I guess we will never know since this person has now gone dark at this forum.

Until word gets around about how the company treats the writers and then... Yup. The applicants dry up too. The writers tend to net the companies they apply to these days, allowing them to better consider their options. Yes, there are writers whointerview the company ups prior to application nowadays. I guess the con works both ways now.

There you go. You answered your own question. Your tinkering within the old system probably got you locked out when a software portion was migrated. Just send an email to writer support. They should beable tohelp restore your access in no time. stop tinkering with the system after that. IT hates having to restore writer access when in the middle of an upgrade.

All these companies know the papers will be submitted for credit. They only put those caveats in to cover their legal butts. The students can submit the papers without worry. That is why they are charged a premium for the paper produced. There is no company that will sell a "model" paper. That is just for show. They know very well that no student will purchase an originally written paper at a high cost, without the intention of submitting it for a grade.

That explains why the paper is based on science fiction. That country barely has an academic system in place. I don't understand how they can keep establishing academic writing companies in a country whose only claim to fame is a little educated punch drunk boxer who somehow managed to get elected to national public office. I think only a few young people get a proper education there. I heard it costs too much money to attend a school or university that actually produces learned graduates, so only the rich get a real education.

It is not fraudulent when the claim is backed up by evidence. Note that the OP was giving advice regarding howto create a legal and truthful business identity. That means, the settings he suggests must exist before the company owners can use the claim. Nothing illegal or untruthful about those declarations if backed up by facts. It is just professional honesty based on existing factors and a need to know basis.

In what would do you live in? There is absolutely no way the academicians will support online of work because it defeats the purpose of learning as they envision it. They would sooner trust a writing AI or software tool before accepting essay writers as an academic support tool. We are the necessary wil for the students and that is why they will only recognize our profession when hell freezes over.

You should have stopped working for them after a month of non-payment. You sure did not know when to cut your losses. This company does this to all new writers as a baptism of fire. If you hang around long enough, you can expect partial payment. If not, then sayonara, we get to keep your salary. I believe the sayonara scenario is what you fall under. A sucker, is truly born every minute.

1. No
2. No
3. Yes.
4. Yes
5. It depends
6. No.

The basic requirement for a company to be considered American is registration and paperwork that identifies it as a U.S. tied business. Case in point, there are American companies with call centers overseas. The company doesn't become a business in that country. If is still a U.S. based and American company. The service is merely outsourced. Now, with regards to ownership. A Ukrainian national who now holds U.S. citizenship owns an American company because he is no longer an Ukranian citizen. His company is governed by U.S. business laws.

It is always best to ignore the Ukranians. They have no idea what qualifiesas good English writing because English is not the default medium of education in their schools. They know English words but, as the OP proves. They don't know how to form coherent sentences using it.

You will not receive an accurate response from anyone here. There will be people referring to A.I. results, which can be manipulated for a fee. Then there are the self-promoters who believe exaggerating their numbers will bring in new clients. There is noway anybody here can come up with an honest figue due to self interests they wish to serve.

There are no gurus here even though there maybe some who believe themselves to be one. There are only 2 sets of professionals here. The ones who honestly give useful advice hoping it leadsto work, and those who lear - down others hoping that bullying will result in work for themselves. Hopefully there will be less and less of them over time.

@mbastudent
Is the fake identity that the OP used to try and make us believe he wasn't self promoting. These blatant self promotions could be less obvious, but the owners really can't help but brag about themselves , totally . away the original intent of the post.

MODs: This thread remained because?

Hahaha! Nowthat was really funny. There are actually times when their evidence came out of the trash bin or should have been thrown in there. Evidence that never accomplishes a purpose or gets admitted in court proceedings don't count as valid.

Depends upon how the presentation is framed. If delivered based on an honest review that isn't slanted towards promotion thenthe mods won't have a problem with it. Honest positive and negative reviews are always welcome. Veiled promotions, are not.

Uh, yeah, they decided to publish their excuse for not being able to fulfill previously placed orders. They used the excuse too soon. They should've waited for the real pandemic. Now, they can't use the same excuse. Well they tried, but the students didn't believe them. Just like in school, grandma can't keep on dying - Hahaha!

When I made the mistake of working with a company at the start off my carell, the plagiarism card was often dealt, Eventually ' I learned to counter this by attaching my own plagiarism review results as assessed by an independent checker. This prevented their claims since the report was already there. Eventually, they stopped the plagiarism claims. But,they cancelled my account later on due to"lack of quality" complaints. Yeah, right. They didn't want to admit I was able to back them into a corner instead.

Shouldn't the correspondent be the one seeking out and interviewing sources then? Something doesn't seem right about this. The again, if CNN outsources to a correspondent, who then outsources the job , that explains a great deal about the demise of factual journalism at that cable news network. It would appear that nobody really knows what is going on over there. Too much outsourcing going on.

@hellokitty
You did not even try topretend to be a student. The post had way too much specific information about the services. These gave away the the intention of your post. Mods, why was this thread allowed to stay? Of what use is not allowing recommendations when you will allow advertising posts to remain? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the no recommendation rule?

There indeed was a time when certain users of this forum considered it their own kingdom where newcomers who were perceived as potential competitors were not welcome here. That time has passed and most of those users who tried to own the forum are also no longer active here. I do not know why their accounts were deactivated. all I know is, the forum has become a quieter and more useful place without them. Here's hoping they never come back.

He cannot ask fora recommendation, but he most certainly can ask for a review. That is what this forum is all about. sharing experiences, both good and bad with one another in relation toa service. Is that a / recommendation loophole? It could be. It's all about how the review is worded. One cannot directly say"hire this seance" but one can leave the review apen to the reader's interpretation. So go ahead and leave reviews. The mods won't mind.

They are warriors for their own interests. The company has been known for fraudulent dealings with clients and writers. They fight hard not to pay the writers and turn into unstoppable forces when students ask for a refund. They only leave warrior mode when trapping a student into hiring the service or, when inviting writers to come into their den of deceit.

Wire transfer - is the preferred payment method of any company that :
- does not wantto pay you so they can use the up to 45 days to transfer excuse
- wants to pay less than they owe you sothey can explain it through transfer and conversion fees.

Whatever the reason, you can only expect one thing, not getting paid.

We can do that. But there are those who cannot act in sucha civilized manner. While most of them are gone now, You never really know when the fragile peace at this forum can be broken. It is important that we all remember the cause of this forum and stick toit. stop looking for the negatives. The world is in enough trouble as it is. she writers need to help one another rather than pull each other down. Right now, this maybe a possibility. Here's hoping.

True. Unqualified writers are the issue. These barely educated writers have to come from somewhere right? They usually prove to be ESL writers from a 3rd world country. That is why the debate focused on that angle. Although, based on the high school level of writing coming out from INL students these days, it should really be a non- issue anymore. The sloppy and shoddy work my writers edit these days from these students make them wish the dog ate the homework.

You asked the wrong question and ended up witha hijacked thread instead. You should have instead, gone into Essay Chat or inggunned from the mods about how you could advertise as a freelancer instead. always take the job that allows you to set your own price. Working for companies carry way too many risks for a decent and professional writer. You just need to learn how to sell yourself to the potential clients.

Since the fining system worked against the company due toa reduced writing pool, there are some that decided to stop fining the writers. Instead, they try to justify a 30 day hold on the salary of the writer. Early release may be requested in some instances. Those situations of early salary is based on:

- Positive review of the work
- Fast client return / work request
- Emergency salary release request ( based on proper documentation from the writer)

Note that only the known scam artists do this to their writers. The poor souls work hard then have to beg for salary release. may these company owners burn in you know where when their time comes.

Yes, they do. The university server keeps tabs on the student logon ID. They know if you visited a porn site, or an academic writing site. VPN won't help in this case. You should use an off-campus computer or private data on your phone when you want to engage in any browsing that may create problems for you in the future due to misuse of university equipment. That includes the internet and the hardware related to it.

CNN, the harbinger of fake news. Now that everyone knows that their reporters are for sale, one only needs to wonder which competitor site paid for the news feature. This paid ar eake news practice is nothing new. They just perfected it over time. Yup, I believe this feature was one of their minor paid features since academic writing mills were not yet a big concern at that time.

4writers.net still works but their client service channels are difficult to contact. The chat is always offline and the phone number doesn't always connect. When you do getthrough toa ringtone, nobody answers. Use this company at your own risk. When the client communication channels fail. you can T what else the company can fail at when delivering your work.

Since the company keeps the copyright to the paper, the amount paid was too small. Intellectual copyrights are way more expensive than that. The writer should be compensated in thethousands, rather than hundreds of dollars. This writer was such a greenhour that he was easily impressed and duped by the company. The poor shmuck.I hope his rates got better later on.