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Smiley73   
May 06, 2018
Essay Services / edubirdie.com any opinions? [35]

The only question is, who sponsored the BBC investigations and why.

Since there is a belief that journalists are now for sale, it is possible that the BBC was paid to do the investigative presentation. Leads were offered to them, particular companies were listed, and the slant of the presentation was dictated by, guess who? A UK based academic writing company that considers the featured YouTube company stiff competition. It's all about the money to shoot down your opponents so the company can try to steal the business. Whether they admit it or not, academic writing is as cutthroat a business as any. Independent writers tear each other down and backstab each other in the hopes of taking clients from one another and the companies, try to shut each other down so that the field will become less competitive. It's an ugly business supported by questionable money and paid interests. Just like everything else in a capitalist world. As far as I am concerned, the "Who" is an unnamed competitor and the "Why" is to shut down the other business so that more clients can enter the system for the competitor company. These people may even know each other personally and admit to being business competitors for all we know.
Smiley73   
May 02, 2018
Essay Services / edubirdie.com any opinions? [35]

My assumption is that there are international schools in Russia that use English as a mode of teaching. So it is quite possible for some Russians to speak and write in proper English. There are also tutorial lessons in English that some Russian students attend in the hopes of helping them to break out overseas. However, these are not the students who end up working for companies such as edubirdie. Instead, the writers that work for this company are those who have an ESL knowledge of the English language and who thus, cater to ESL students in the UK. These writers know enough to get by using bastardized English and the clients of the company, who don't know the difference since they cannot speak the language properly anyway, hire them because they sound like the student on paper. Believe me, an ENL student from the UK will not be hiring edubirdie services because they know what kind of problems they will have when they deal with such a company. The Russians who attend international schools and get English tutoring on the side? They won't even apply to such a company because their family is moneyed and they don't need to eke out a living in such a manner. They are mostly the Russian equivalent of trust fund babies.
Smiley73   
May 01, 2018
Essay Services / edubirdie.com any opinions? [35]

Maybe the reason the reporters turn a blind eye to the big UK academic outsourcing companies is because of protectionism. You know what I mean... It is alright for fellow Brits to circumvent the law in support of their native students. It is another thing for an outsider to pretend to be in their country and dupe the students. The UK company gives the students a legal recourse should they decide to sue the company, the Ukrainian company is above the British trade and commerce laws since they do not have a physical presence in the country.

That is why, the UK investigative journalists are after the mock academic writing companies using a fictitious UK presence. Granted though that both companies still help the students get around academic policies, the point is, one is homegrown, the other is a pretender. So they run after the ones who take their students for a ride from outside the country's jurisdiction. Personally, I would not trust either company because they both could turn on the students any second.
Smiley73   
May 01, 2018
Essay Services / Legit Essay Writing services. [26]

why not have a sticky thready (locked) with tried and tested sites. Wouldn't that make more sense?

Uh, yeah there is a sticky post for the legit sites recommended by the owners of this forum, not just the writers or people posting here. The approved, but not recommended sites, based on the vetting system of the people who run this place are located in the above banner, indicating indidivual firms and connections to individual writers. Clicking on the links to EssayChat, Essay Directory, EssayBrand, as well as the Writers, and Services links lead to the problem free world of academic writing on both a company based or individual writer level. All of those venues for service have been properly investigated and tested by the powers that be here. Now, while they cannot assure that all transactions will be flawless, these are still the best options available as far as they are concerned. So even if one doesn't use the search box, the potential client will be starting on the right foot by clicking on any of the aforementioned links.
Smiley73   
May 01, 2018

These days, it is safer to assume that any company is a scam until the client can prove that to be otherwise for himself / herself. Since it is extremely difficult, time consuming, and a waste of valuable writing time for the client to go through the investigation process before hiring the company, he should just do his best to investigate via the chat, email, and phone number (if provided by the site). It's really simple, if the grammar, punctuation, and sentence development in the chatroom or email conversation is faulty, then it is most likely a scam. If the accent is not American, British, or Australian when conversing other the phone, then its a scam. These are the simples ways to narrow down the "scam" consideration in terms of the company being considered. Or better yet, directly hire an independent writer instead. They are more open and willing to prove their trustworthiness and legitimacy in the business. As for the negative marketing, these scam companies actually hire writers to write negative articles about their competitors just so they can tear each other down. Their negative war of the words are even far worse than the fighting words that can be found in the threads here because the writers have no idea (just like on this site), who they are doing battle with.
Smiley73   
May 01, 2018

It doesn't sound like the OP was able to find a decent blog writer over here. I guess it was because their information lacked in details such as the Cost Per Page or Per Word for the blog. Any company that simply wants to hire someone they can speak to in English is casting a very wide net. However, I would discount blog writing as an alternative income method for the independent writers or academic outsourcing writers who are looking for a venue to earn during the slow academic seasons. It helps to keep the writer on his toes, expands his intellectual horizon, and increases his network. Not to mention, it helps the writer develop a new writing skill and style that is geared more towards a professional field. I wonder almost no writers from this forum signified an interest in being employed as a blog writer. It is not difficult at all and it really much easier to complete as a task when compared to the academic research and essay papers.
Smiley73   
Apr 30, 2018

@ndungu why on earht would you suggest that a person apply for a job at a company that doesn't pay on time? Nevermind the fact that this is a well known scam company with offices in Asia and the Ukraine, which makes their company even more questionable. You have already suffered at the hands of this company as an overworked, underpaid, or sometimes, never paid writer, why would you punish others by suggesting this stupidity? Misery loves company? You are disgusting. You did not even bother to really think before responding did you? Or were you paid to promote a site and company that is constantly losing writers and requires a constant hiring cue because the revolving door out of the company is moving so fast, it is practically spinning off its hinges? A company that so many negative comments on this site should never be suggested to a newbie, even if that is the last academic outsourcing company on the face of this earth.
Smiley73   
Apr 30, 2018

Whether you should stay and see what happens in terms of salary payment will actually depend on whether or not you are comfortable doing work, possibly for free for these writing companies. Since these companies have major complaints about their services and writer relationship posted here, it would be best for you to weigh your options on a personal basis. After all, not all writing experiences at these companies are the same. Some writers actually have good financial relationships with them. While others don't. It's a catch 22 in most instances. Personally, after reading the comments and reviews, I would not work with them even if I already have an active account with them. I mean, I can't take the financial risk. You can easily make more than $200 a week working for the companies, if you don't get docked for fines and penalties. Make sure you don't become a high profile writer and you can normally avoid the penalties and fines. It's the prolific writers, such as myself at the time, who often ended up with unfounded fines and penalties because I was earning more than they were willing to pay.
Smiley73   
Apr 30, 2018

Well, we never did find out whether the original poster was able to get any of the remaining salary that he was owed. I am wondering as to what the full cost of the order was on the writer's part which resulted in the enormous fine that he received. I cannot say that sympathize with the OP though since he did have to revise the paper 10 times, Which tells me that he wasn't exactly on the same page as the client in terms of instructions and content. Since the client refused to pay for the paper, the company, would definitely want to blame someone for income loss. It is just sad that it is always the writers that get the blame. In this instance, I would like to have known if the client was an ESL as well since the ESL students have the worst reputation when it comes to placing orders. They are the ones who cannot understand instructions and need to be hand held in understanding the requirements of the paper after it has been submitted to them. I can say that I was unduly fined more than 12 times because these ESL students would rather file a revision request when all they wanted to do was ask a question. Doing this every time they had a question for me definitely resulted in my being penalized for "low quality work" when no revision requests were being ordered in the first place. No, the company did not listen to reason and they still implemented the fine even though they could see within the system that questions, not revision instructions were being sent my way as a writer.
Smiley73   
Apr 30, 2018

Using TurnitIn is a very tricky situation for most students. The company has been known to say it won't store your information their database but they do anyway. It is always best, in my opinion to steer clear of checking your essay or research paper via this service. There are other services online that actually do not store your data in their system, which as safe to use. However, there will always be instances of plagiarism detected in any essay that uses in-text citations or paraphrasing within for a quotation. These instances are usually forgivable within a certain percentage. That is why teachers and professors tell the students these days that they may only have X number of quotes or X percentage of in-text citations in their essay. That is the best way to avoid accidental plagiarism, and also, helps the student to not need to use a plagiarism checking service that could work against him once the assignment is submitted. Usually a 30% threshold for in-text citations / plagiarism is what professors use when they run the paper through their approved plagiarism checker.
Smiley73   
Apr 30, 2018
Writing Careers / Writers: What do you say? [150]

The story of the OP sounds exactly like mine, including the way that conversations often flowed. I was everything from a freelance writer, academic writer, research writer, research assistant, even a writer editor for students. Eventually, I had to simply stick to one writing description because it was getting harder and harder to explain what I did for work. When anyone accused me to helping students to cheat the system, I told them, "Jealous much?" and left it at that. They knew from the way that i was living at the time that I was rolling in cash, yet I never left the house and always seemed to have time to take a day off or go on long weekend vacations. That's why I started simply telling people, "I write for students who don't have a clue but want to pass high school / college. Their parents are so supportive, they pay me any amount I ask for. Your kid is in school, want me to help him pass? I heard he/she is struggling/ failing in class." , just to rub it into the do-gooders who were really just envious of my financial success.
Smiley73   
Apr 30, 2018

Craig's List is more of a site for selling physical items and other services. Since there are a number of horrific tales about the site, it has gained a degree of negative and scary publicity which has affected its effectivity as a service for hire site. I strongly doubt that students, who are usually the target of the negative listings on the site would be inclined to hire a writer from there. There are too many unknown factors and too many crazies that exist on that site for it to be a safe place to hire anyone for any service. There are other, far more reputable service sites that a student can use to hire a writer. Go with the safe online places like UpWork for instance. There are several writers from there whom I know personally who became successful in retaining legacy clients because of the safety protocols in place which left both the writer and the student feeling comfortable in dealing with one another. It's better to be safe than sorry in this instance.
Smiley73   
Apr 30, 2018

I would not recommend that you try to get a job as an affiliate writer for any academic outsourcing company as those tend to treat their freelance writers like slaves. Before anybody makes a snide comment and tells me to STFU, I want you to know that I am referring to the scam Ukrainian and Asian academic outsourcing companies and not the legitimate or seemingly legitimate US/UK/ Australia based companies. The legal companies can be counted on one hand anyway. All other companies are a scam. As an independent writer, you are better off trying to get jobs over at the freelancing job sites. Sure it is more difficult to get jobs there because of the bidding system. However, losing the middle man, means that you deal directly with the client, you will be treated with respect, and your income will not be unfairly deducted for made up "penalties and fines", which the scam companies always do in order to keep more money for themselves. Strike out on your own and advertise your services here through the EssayDirectory, EssayChat, writers, services, and EssayBrand sections instead. The students who come here to seek out reliable writers often refer to those listings since those writers are meticulously investigated before being approved for advertising at this forum. No scams will ever be listed here.
Smiley73   
Apr 30, 2018
Essay Services / Coding Assignment - Help Please [9]

While recommendations are not allowed and this site is mostly focused on academic essays and research papers. I am sure that there are some writers out there who are members of this forum who might be able to help you. I am not recommending a particular writer or service to you but, I am within reason and allowable limits to recommend that you start searching for your required writer using the above banner services. Choose between our registered and approved writer and services or, contact the two trustworthy companies indicated in the banners. You may also use our new EssayBrand service to contact, discuss, and deal with your chosen writer or company. EssayScam does not endorse any of the aforementioned services however, they have been investigated and proven to be on the level independent writers and companies who should be able to offer you some sort of assistance for the work you need completed. You may also directly contact any of the independent writers here to inquire about their expertise. It is against the rules for them to openly discuss possible work opportunities at the forum so using the PM system would work best in this case.
Smiley73   
Apr 29, 2018

I do not see the academic writing industry as a method of helping students cheat. Rather, I view the work as a method offering a unique kind or student assistance. As I always say, when a student hires a tutor, the tutor helps the student complete the homework or whatever paper is required for the student's class. An academic writer does a similar type of service which aids the student in completing class requirements. Yes, we do the work required, however, that does not mean that the student cheated. He only asked for help in writing the paper. Since the paper should not be submitted for a grade as it is only a model paper, then the paper that was written for the student serves as a written tutorial or additional reading material in relation to the research paper or essay that he must recreate for submission in his class. The only reason that academic ghostwriters get a bad rap or rep is because the students always violate the agreement that should not submit the model paper for a grade. There is nothing the writer or the academic writing company can do about that.
Smiley73   
Apr 29, 2018

If these students weren't too lazy to do research, the independent writers would be out of jobs and the writing companies would be out of business. I have no problem with the students constantly asking for referrals to companies and writers. That is how the system works. If they are looking for a writer, simply talking to the writers who post in their thread will open the lines of communication and allow them to assess the writer for potential hiring. They can also assess companies based on the company representative claims, which can then be cross referenced with the threads in this forum. There are times when students asking questions does have its benefits. However, the mere fact that there is an EssayDirectory, Writers, Services, and the new EssayBrand sections which can help them find reliable services since those companies and writers are investigated and guaranteed to be on the level, should already make it easier for the students to find a writer or company, without having to use the search engine feature. Unless of course, they would want to use it.
Smiley73   
Apr 29, 2018

This company is not affiliated with any academic outsourcing company, nor do claim ownership of any writing websites. They wish to keep the integrity of this forum, which is why they do not allow the recommendation of sites by the users of this forum. However, just like any other company, the powers that be at this forum need to monetize their investment. Which is why they accept advertising from individual writers and other unaffiliated companies. The paid advertising is investigated and only posted if the veracity of the site claims are completed. If there is a sign of illegality or question as to the credibility of the site, the money is returned without question and the site is not listed in the directory, or banner section of the forum. The only vested interest of EssayScam is in helping the students find proper writing assistance services. They don't make recommendations and never will. It is up to the student to decide which writer or company they wish to hire. The only part EssayScam plays is in the verification of the trust and reliability factor of the concerned writer or academic outsourcing company.
Smiley73   
Apr 29, 2018

I don't think that you were fired from your job because you applied for a regular position with the company. Usually, these companies pretend to "hire from within" without really meaning it. I speak of course, of the scam companies. The upstanding companies honor the promotional hierarchy in the company so they would not fire someone for wanting to advance his status from within. Your application went on file but it was not taken seriously. My guess, is that the company was looking for ways to cut corners and increase profit. They often turn to the writers pool for increased profit and you were probably a casualty of this cycle. While you did a good job, it is possible that you did not rate highly enough for them to retain your services. Perhaps because you were new on staff (last in, first out firing system), or your ratings, although good, were not high enough to make them confident that you would be a continued asset to the company. It could also be that there was a change in management and it is the new management that vetted the writers and you were classified as "removable" by the new company HR.
Smiley73   
Apr 29, 2018

While I disagree with testimonials in this instance because of how it can be faked by having the writer actually write his own testimonial, I know the value of a referral which is why I used to encourage my previous clients to refer me to their friends, classmates, and relatives. In exchange for that, I would give the client one free 250 word essay when he had an assignment that called for it. It worked pretty well for me and I knew that the students coming to me where those who were impressed by the work that I previously did for the person who referred me. This was the cycle that I used to promote my writing services, even though I did not have a website to refer the clients to. It turns out, the clients were more interested in the assured quality of work being delivered rather than the testimonials from people they did not know nor whose opinion they could care nothing about. The referral cycle for me, functioned in this manner until I decided to leave the academic writing field a few years back.
Smiley73   
Apr 29, 2018

A reputable academic outsourcing company will pay upwards of $25 per page. A scam could pay as little $1.00 per page. It all depends upon the type of writing company that the writer is attached to. A scam, is a waste of time in terms of wages. The salary is not fixed because the "complexity" of the order dictates the total price that the company charges. The company knows how much they charge but they do not let the writers know the full cost of the paper. The company shows the writer only the amount they are willing to pay for the total order. The writer has a "take it or leave it" choice in this instance. More often than not, the unsuspecting writer "takes it" because he needs the work. A writer attached to a company will see some of his wages increasing depending upon the rate of his "promotion" in the company. So the cost or price per page is not fixed. If the writer is unlucky, the company will even implement a "lowest bidder" method in the server to make the payments go even lower for the writer per page.
Smiley73   
Apr 29, 2018

This writing gig can actually go two ways. For some, they prefer to do the regular 8-5 job with the computer off and the mobile phone disconnected at 5 PM, That's why they make sure to time the writing tasks to be completed not on a page number basis but rather, hours of work basis. The other side, works till their eyes get so tired, it closes on its own and the writer practically slumps over the keyboard, snoring away (figuratively speaking). Whichever way works best I guess. For those who have their money on the prize (increased salary), then work till their body asks them to stop. For those who are doing the job more as a form of additional income, the work clock chimes the end of the work day at 5. When I was actively working, I would work for 20 hours, sleeping only for 4 hours per day. I had my eye on the salary at the time as I had some specific financial projects in mind that required me to work like a hamster on the wheel. These days though, I work only when called upon by consultation clients. That job normally takes me just 30 minutes to an hour, 2 hours at the most, to complete. Then I have the rest of the day off.
Smiley73   
Apr 29, 2018

Funny how this thread ran so off topic that nobody remembered to discuss the absolutely crazy scheme that the original posted tried to get going. I am not sure what made him think that he could hack a scam. Since a scam site is one of the most difficult to infiltrate. I mean, owing to how their ping their URL through so many channels, even the channels don't know where the ping actually came from. Anyway, I'm glad to see a silly person try to take down the behemoth that are the Ukrainian and Asian scam writing companies. Too bad he could not follow through on his threat. It would have been an interesting action to have read about. I am sure he wasn't able to do it. There was really no way it could have succeeded since he did not even represent a plan of action, just a banner message for the site. This guy is definitely not a member of Anonymous and if he tried to join, I bet he would have been thrown out for being a pretender. He could not even get 10 seconds of fame though, poor guy.
Smiley73   
Apr 27, 2018

I always disclosed information about my freelance writing career on a need to know basis. Depending upon the type of employment I applied for, I would adjust the description and work duties so that the interviewer would not pry too much into the background of my job. Most of them pretty much did not care to ask about it in-depth anyway and I never found a reason to disclose that I was once an academic freelance writer. All management knew is that I was pretty smart and knew about more things than my immediate supervisors did. They turned to me for the more difficult office cases and had me working on their reports and other documents because I was the most competent in the office. They did not care how I became competent, just that I could do the job. This resulted in my becoming an indispensable part of the company. These are the reasons why I learned to just keep my mouth shut because of the benefits of the adaptable work description. Eventually, I ended up getting paid more than the average rank and file because of "on the side" jobs for the higher ups.
Smiley73   
Apr 27, 2018

Ghost-Writer BookWhile I had a different start in my academic writing career from Mr. Tomar, I would have to say that she share similar experiences and that our enlightenment was on similar paths.

I did try to justify the work I was doing back then in terms of being a helpful service to privileged students. Students who had no idea what they were doing in college in the first place.

These clueless students helped me stay afloat financially, although they did tend to tax my health with their seemingly endless revisions and arguments regarding why their paper was written in a certain way. It took longer to explain their homework to them than it did to actually do the work.

Am I sorry I did the job back then? Nope. I found myself being better educated over the years I spent as an academic ghostwriter than all the combined years I spent in school.

Yes, I count early grammar school in that as well. It was nice of him to write the book. While it was more of a soul cleansing on his part, the fact that he called universities on their dollar sign education helped to explain why academic ghostwriters exist and why the profession will not be disappearing anytime soon or in the foreseeable future.
Smiley73   
Apr 27, 2018

It is quite possible to write a 10 page essay within 24 hours. This sort of paper is par for the course when it comes academic writing. In fact, 24 hours could even be considered to be a lengthy amount of time to complete the paper. Some students I worked with in the past asked me to turn in 10 pages within 5 hours which, although it had me really irritated at the student, I always found doable anyway. A student has to be conscious of the fact that when the turn around time is short, he needs to make allowances for possible improvement in the paper after it is submitted to him or her. While I always made a conscious effort to make sure that the paper was excellent upon submission, there were instances when the students, in their rush to get their order in to me, neglected to include certain aspects of their professors instructions with their order. In those instances, revisions do happen, for which I charged extra since that is something I considered to be a change in instructions or additional instructions and therefore, I should be paid extra to accomplish within the 24 hour time frame.
Smiley73   
Apr 27, 2018

Since independent writing is slowly being taken out of the hands of the academic outsourcing companies and being placed in the care of real "freelancing" websites, I would strongly urge any aspiring academic writer to shy away from applying at the companies and instead, try their luck bidding for their first job at the bidding sites. You can price your bid based upon your actual writing talent and paper requirements. This is something that you cannot do when working for an academic outsourcing company. When you work for a company, you have to take the offer, whether the pay is worth it or not because you want that income to reflect in your upcoming paycheck. As a true freelancer who is reliant on a non-middleman bidding process, you will have the opportunity to earn more and actually keep the money you earn because there is no pretend QAD around trying to fleece you of your earnings that came from your hard work. Try not to work for academic writing companies and instead, work for yourself. That is the best way to get a fair deal in this business.
Smiley73   
Apr 27, 2018

I have long suspected that this was happening to the writers of the Ukrainian owned academic outsourcing companies. I just did not have proof to back up this suspicion of mine. So I am wondering how the OP managed to confirm this information since the writers at these companies are prevented from talking amongst themselves and they see only specific orders in the system based upon their writer level. It is true that there is a variation in the salary because the companies these days offer a "bid" on an order that was priced too low when it was placed or, the writer has the option to request for a CPP increase if he feels the need to do so. Not that he will be granted the CPP increase, but at least he can try. This is something that is really a despicable practice among these companies. Writers should be paid based on the quality of their work and not their country of origin. There is a big difference between the two. The quality is more important than the location of the writer. If the writer is in a Third World country but manages to deliver First World results, why should he paid less? It doesn't make sense.
Smiley73   
Apr 27, 2018

Who isn't a scam is all dependent on the working relationship that you have with the writer or company that you hired to write your paper. The first order that you place with a writer or a company is always based on a wing and a prayer. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst as they say. Not all of the writers who advertise their services, nor the companies that pay to advertise here are scam artists. In fact, EssayScam now says that all of the paid advertisements on this forum is guaranteed to be 100% scam free. Their vetting techniques apparently have been working well over time so, if you pluck a writer from this forum, who pays to be here and highlighted in the services and EssayBrand.com section, then you are almost sure to have an excellent working experience with that writer. So I suggest that you based your hiring of your writer on that criteria. Hey, at least the writer has been pre-vetted for you and there will be consequences for any con artist who tries to put one over a student based on the advertising on this forum. So you at least can trust in EssayScam criteria for advertising and be confident that you are hiring someone "on the level".
Smiley73   
Apr 26, 2018

Throwing in my ten cents worth into the discussion here. I know it's late. Don't bite my head off please. I just want to share my thoughts regarding this highly interesting and still relevant topic. I still believe that the line has been erased in terms of ghost writing and academic writing because both of them should be considered illegal if you think about it. A ghost writer pretty much writes a speech, solely based on an idea given to him by the speaker. The speaker doesn't care about what the speech contains, as long as what he wants to say get across to the listener. The same goes for academic writing. The student doesn't care how the paper is completed, as long as the instructions for writing the paper are followed. So one is no better than the other since the same objective is accomplished in the end. So the line isn't just fine, it doesn't exist. If one considers that the students these days spend a specific amount of time with tutors after school, asking for writing help can't be considered a bad thing or amoral because we are simply offering up a service that the tutors can't. Our purpose is also to help educate the student by helping them develop papers that they can read and learn from prior to submission to their professors or teachers.
Smiley73   
Apr 26, 2018

Kenyan writers are very aggressive in the market because it appears that there is not much of a market for a regular 9-5 office job in their country. Scamming students through essay writing services is their answer to their earning problems and making themselves high profile in social media and forums such as these help to serve their purpose of advertising their "services" and heightening their "profile" in a "respectable" sense. Students who deal with them go into these negotiations with open eyes and delicate agreements. Some of these writers will deliver, most of them won't. These will be hard learned lessons for the students. EssayScam does their best to make sure that these con artists do not stay on the site for long. However, they can't work fast enough to accomplish the task as they really are proliferating the market. I just hope that eventually, these Kenyan con people will find a different avenue to work in and the essay writing industry will be able to repair the damage these Kenyans have done to the industry over time.
Smiley73   
Apr 26, 2018
Essay Services / Academic Paper Files [10]

Technically, he wasn't really advertising but rather, discussing his work experience and professional skills in his post. He just happened to be discussing his partnership with those companies in the process. It isn't advertising as it is informing the reader about himself as a professional. There is a big difference between simply discussing, which is what I believe he was doing here, as opposed to blatant advertising of a website, which he was doing in a veiled manner. Hence the powers that be allowed his post to stay and did not close the thread or anything like that. I guess there are ways around the advertising and reference ban after all, One needs to only be creative in handling the situation in order to get past the eagle eyes that monitor this forum. If you can do that, then you are one pretty good and creative writer. Which I believe the OP is. He managed to advertise without coming across as a real advertisement. I don't think the moderators just overlooked it. They knew it could get past them based on a technicality.
Smiley73   
Apr 26, 2018

The messages sound like a scam to me. This definitely reeks of a fly by night company that had no intention of honoring their agreement with you. That's why they only had contact forms for clients to reach out to them. They also sent you automated responses which did not need to have a human on the other end. As long as you emailed a particular address using the form, an automated response was generated within a set time frame for each step of the "Revision" process. I hope that you contacted them for a refund or, set a chargeback in progress so you could have gotten your money back at the time. From what I can tell, these types of websites are still run by con artists from the usual suspect countries. So it would be useless to try and figure out where they are actually located. I hope that you found a proper writing service to help you out after that horrible experience. I mean, I hope you did not let this one traumatic interaction represent your overall impression of the other writing companies. There are some on the level companies out there. You just need to know how to find them.
Smiley73   
Apr 25, 2018

Professors definitely know when the student is using a model paper for his submitted homework or research paper. The most telling sign for them is when the student, who doesn't do well in terms of class participation, exams, and homework, suddenly turns in a stellar research paper. Which is why I always tell the students to grab hold of a writer at the start of the semester and then have that writer do all the homework, essays, and research papers for them throughout. That is the only way to "dispel" and possible doubts the professor may have about the student's ability to write. Then again, they need to be able to participate in class as well. I also tell them that, in order to keep the deception active, they must enroll in English language lessons so that they have a "provable" reference for the "overnight" improvement of their English language grasp and written presentation. If they fail to create their backstory and then suddenly come out as proficient English writers, then they will definitely be in trouble and in that instance, the writer will not be able to help the student anymore.
Smiley73   
Apr 25, 2018

My writer friends have just contacted me with some disturbing news. It appears that some academic outsourcing companies have found a new way to keep even more money for themselves. They figured out that by implementing a two tiered "Quality Assurance" method, they can fine the writers twice for the same order instead of only once. They did this in the guise of "promoting" top tier writers in the company but adding a few duties and responsibilities to it. These new "Team Leaders" who have "Business Accounts" are now in charge of the following:

Writing pool outsourced1. The ability to have up to 20 writers in their writer's pool. They may assign orders and remove orders at their whim. They are also in charge of deadline extensions and writer contact.

2. All submitted work will pass through the TL for preliminary screening, revision, editing, and low scale fining. BTW, all their fining decisions are final and will be supported by the QAD.

3. All writers payments will come through the TL already rather than from the company itself.

Now, this sounds to me like the perfect set up for a non negotiable fining system on 2 levels. The TL gets to fine the writer and keep some money for himself and then the QAD comes in with their own fines and keeps more money for the company. Writers are even more unsure now as to whether or not they will be paid and when. They can't even contact the Payment department for questions anymore regarding unpaid salaries.

From the looks of things, the writers could work very hard and achieve nothing in the end as in, they could come back in the negative and owe both the TL and the company money after the "QA" process is completed on both ends. It is slowly becoming clearer and clearer why more and more writers are simply trying to strike out on their own these days. These companies and TL:'s will nickel and dime the writers to death.
Smiley73   
Apr 25, 2018

There are good sites and there are bad sites. On the level writing companies and fly by night scam companies. They all proliferate the same space on the web. The problem is that it is next to impossible to pick out the good from the bad. Mostly because their overall information is difficult to confirm. Hence, the difficulty in separating the two. That is the difficulty of hiring an academic outsourcing company. This isn't the same problem you face when you hire a writer directly. You can avoid the hassle of trying to figure out the location of the company when you can instead, be talking directly with the write whom the company would have hired to work on the paper for you anyway. I say, if you don't want to get scammed then you should eliminate the middleman and contact the writer directly instead. It makes the deal easier to close on both sides. For transparency purposes, I am not an independent writer and I do not do any academic writing work anymore. I am way beyond that already and I have moved on to greener pastures. I am just here helping out a friend.
Smiley73   
Apr 25, 2018

Writer screening is extremely difficult to complete because of varying reasons. Choices A-C only work in Lalaland. If a client really wants to get to know the writer and his actual abilities, he has to first, do a verbal interview of the writer over a number of days. Call it contract negotiations. This is the best way to measure the intellect of the writer and his true English abilities. After that, if the client and writer come to an agreement regarding the order, the client should place the order, asking for specific draft percentage submissions, depending on the length of the paper. This way, revisions can be immediately implemented in required sections. This is the best method of assessing the writing abilities and credentials of the writers. He can make all the claims he wants in terms of the blurb on his ad, but his actual writing will tell a different story and that, is what the client should be on the lookout for. Pre-screening is hugely difficult to do and you won't find a writer who would be cooperative regarding any of those aspects of screening.
Smiley73   
Apr 25, 2018

Submitting a writing sample for any reason doesn't make sense. The student should be able to tell whether or not the writer will be able to do the job while speaking to the writer. Providing free samples to the student doesn't help anyone. However, posting a few pages of various work samples along with the writer profile makes more sense. I have heard of a few academic writing companies that now implement these methods and they have told me that the method works very well for them. Even the writers find that the clients they get are more attuned to the writing style of the writer and they have lesser revision requests because of the new method of choosing a writer for a specific order. I guess the method of choosing writers will also evolve with the way that orders are placed and what new writer screening methods can be cooked up by the academic outsourcing companies. It is one thing to provide a writing sample for general reference, it is another thing to give a writing sample on a specific topic to a client. The latter is something that should never be done because the writer will not be paid for it.
Smiley73   
Apr 25, 2018

Less Writing OrdersAnother reason that the essay order have been down these days is because there has been an influx in the "free" essays and "paraphrased" essay business of companies.

They openly rehash old papers for new clients, based on their "free" essay choice for their paper. All the student has to do now is choose the paper that they feel will best represent their homework and then work with the company writer in revising the paper.

Some students, opt to do the revision work themselves and then submit the paraphrased paper for a grade.

They are more inclined to do this because the essay already has quotes and a bibliography page thrown in.

They adapt the paper to their own thoughts and writing style and in a matter of hours, they have an original paper they can submit for a grade.

As long as they keep the in-text citations, the work is practically done on their end.

Most of my writer friends admit that they have been making their income mostly from these types of work these days. They don't mind, the work is easier and less stressful according to them.
Smiley73   
Apr 25, 2018

Optimized Writing BusinessThe only thing that I can think of to explain why the SEO isn't working for your website is that your company website must be a complete mess. If the client finds it difficult to navigate your website, then they will think twice about placing an order. If your chatroom proves to always be crashing when the client tries to access it, then they will not be inclined to hire your services either. If the grammar on your site is obviously ESL, then the client will run for the exit. If your call center has agents whose accents can be cut with a knife, then that will definitely make them not sign up for your service.

There are a number of problems that could be directly related to your website set up and client assistance department that could be the cause of the SEO failure on the part of your company. I am also wondering how you could keep a company running for 2 years without a client. I have heard of running in the negative for a few months but 2 years is preposterous.

Or maybe the SEO procedure did not work for this client because he was engaging the services of the search engine for a purpose that it no longer allows? Ever since Google clamped down on the academic writing website listings, it has become more and more difficult for students to find services that way. Which is also the reason why the writing companies have taken to listing themselves on social media websites such as Twitter and Facebook.

Writing companies these days use the social media sites as alternatives to the search engine listing because the social media sites pretty much do not care what services they advertise as long as they get paid for it. Targeting advertising seems to work better for them as opposed to SEO rankings these days. It works better for their advertising purposes and it also brings down their VOIP costing since they use messenger to contact the clients and vice versa.
Smiley73   
Apr 25, 2018

Lessons in dealing with scam sites do often come at a price. That is why it is important that the student knows how to screen these companies for reliability and trustworthiness prior to placing an order. It is simple enough to do a search. Sometimes, coming up with a thorough investigation is as simple as using the search engine box. Just type in "reviews for..." and indicate the name of the writing company then watch the number of negative returns that come up. Based upon the potential client's review of the comments coming from various places, and it is important to look for the negative comments as part of an equal search and information investigation, the student can decide if he or she wants to take a chance on hiring this writing service. Personally, I think that personal references from friends can help to limit the problems when dealing with the writing companies but then again, it might not. Just remember, always use Paypal and never the credit card to pay for the service as it is easier to collect a chargeback from Paypal than the credit card company.


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