I must say that the company must be doing something right and delivering on their promises to the student clients. Why? A search of their company profile showed that the negative reviews for their services comes from their competitor sites. All the negative reviews push other companies as being the better alternative by "students" who could not disguise their paid posts if their lives depended on it. So the company should be alright to deal with. They are potentially, not a scam.

Talk about an impossible dream. Nobody could have pulled this off then, and nobody could pull this off now. The writers are just too much into the business of looking out for number 1. Independent writers can cooperate some of the time, but not most of the time due to various reasons. Not to say that this is not a good intention, it actually is. The problem, is that the globalized format of the industry does not lend itself to such a society, organization, or union.

On the contrary, you did the students here a disservice. It was important that, at the time of the posting, you shared the information with the students. That is because this sort of scam doesn't happen only once and is not exclusive to a single company. Filing a claim in court may be the last resort for students who feel duped by the chargeback system or the non-refund policy of these companies. How I wish I had come across this post at the right time so that I could have convinced you to share the information openly.

The people who pay a writer to do all of the work often find themselves in a heap of trouble anyway. The research is usually unusable and they are out thousands of dollars or pounds because they were either "too busy" or "too lazy" to do the actual work themselves. Those who get usable dissertations find themselves at a disadvantage when having to defend their research because they have no idea how information got into the paper. Preparing them for the defense is not part of the deal when they hire a writer. It is the student himself who compromises academic honesty in this case. The writers, are just willing pawns in the game.

I bet any complainant that uses their registered information to file a complaint will be in for a shock. The address is fictitious, the phone number is not real, and the company, only exists on the internet, where they are beyond the reach of the law. No third rate company will ever give out its actual location and contact information. Dream on. Complaints and the data accompanying it will soon find itself at a dead end.

This is nothing new. Olena is not the only one doing it in the business. Most of the Russian, Ukrainian, Indian, to mention but a few companies, also engage in the same practice. They simply ask their writers to revise the essay based on a "revision request" after a period of time. Thus updating the information, without paying the writer for the extra work, and creating a semi-plagiarized paper that they can sell as "model papers" or pre-written papers to students who could care less about the quality of the paper they are paying for.

Essaybay is just like every other scam company out there. They do not mind paying their writers full and on time, provided the writer does not meet a certain amount earned. That figure is a tightly guarded secret that the writer eventually learns to guess and stay under so that he can collect in full. Contrary to public belief, the company has an allowance for each writer's salary depending on his pay grade. The company is not willing to pay the writer more than an unspecified amount so when he crosses the threshold, based on their computation, they will begin to penalize the writer using the clients as an excuse.

I cannot trust that any file uploaded to an external server is safe to download. I don't even trust files uploaded by clients to OneDrive and Google Drive. I will give the OP the benefit of the doubt and consider the file clean. However, nobody can be sure that a trojan has not attached to the file that will launch "harmlessly" and attach itself to my system. Sorry, but this makes the "student" sound as much of a scammer as the company he claims to want to blow the lid on.

Definitely a scam. The payment system sounds like it was set up with expert advice. Advice coming from an experienced scamming accountant and, a scamming lawyer that can help the company keep the money and avoid being brought up on charges by the writers and the clients. I guess this is the reason why their writers have all but dried up. They lose too much money through penalties, investigations, and other unfair money withholding schemes that the company can think of without any recourse with regards to being able to collect what is fairly due to them. .

He could have been in existence offline and only launched his formal business 3 months ago via an online presence. It is never good to assume that something is a lie without getting all of the information first. I for one, practiced the business about 2 years after I graduated, formally launching my website only 2 years after graduation. During that time I was already servicing the needs of my student clients at an informal level. So I would like to give this person the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he needs to clarify the history of his company instead so that he isn't accused of lying about his company information.

I'm confused. When did WB become one of the owners of this website? I know several owners of this site personally and they have never made reference to him in our conversations. Perhaps the OP misunderstood? The reference to forum rules by WB does not mean he is an owner, just a well versed member of the forum. With non-existent English comprehension skills, there is no way that Member10 can be considered even an elementary level English writer.

The problem is that the whole basis of an internet business has lent itself to globalization. It is difficult to claim that the business is located in just one country or one location due to the very nature of the business. Like you said, the server can be in the USA, the client support in Kuwait, the writers, can be located in any point on the global map. So nobody can claim to have an actual business address anymore. The owners of these companies can claim to be in any location that they have an actual workforce in. Can we prove such a workforce exists? Sometimes we can, sometimes we can't. That, is the situation that academic writing companies find themselves existing in and that, is why it is easier for them to hide who and where they really are.

So, how did the research go? What were the results of your investigative research? The results of this undertaking would have been quite useful to the students here. It sounded like the OP almost came up with a formulation regarding how to compute the "scam" status of any company. Too bad he decided to withhold the information or maybe, change his research topic since the variants for this research constantly move. He would not have been able to develop a completely accurate research based on the parameters he was using. It would give him an idea, but definitely not lead him to the full picture.

Uh, you are trying to use the clients as a pawn in your salary game? Nobody will listen to you. The clients do not care if you are paid or not. They just want to order a paper they can afford to pay for. You, on the other hand, can opt to stop working for a company that doesn't pay you. They have more writers on staff to replace you. You are not a loss to them and no student will not place an order based solely on your say so. Do not think so highly of yourself because in this business, you are just one of the replaceable pawns.

Based on their cost per page, you can bet that they do not have any specialized ENL writers on staff. The best you will get is a writer who studied or majored in English Literature at a university in some third world country. You should not trust this company to provide you with quality work. Go with Custompapers whenever you can afford to. They are pricier for a reason. Client satisfaction is the main reason students prefer to use them. Since your paper is an intricate one, specializing in literature, you should go with the company that isn't known as a scam and can deliver your needs because their writers are native English speakers and writers.

Both companies are scams. I am more concerned about OvernightEssay.com because of the promise that they make to complete 5000 words at a minimum for students, even under the tightest of deadlines. They take pride in completing their work within a matter of hours at reasonable prices. None of which can be believed. A properly researched and developed discussion essay will need at least 2 days, depending upon the complicated research involved in the topic. A simple single page or even 5 page essay can be completed in 24 hours, if the topic is simple to moderate in complexity. More than that and you can expect to receive trash for overnight work.

@Cynn Nice way of introducing an advertisement for the company that you work for. Nobody would have noticed the veiled add except someone who really scrutinized your post. Think about it. A student would not have the time to have the paper they already paid for assessed by a different company for improvements. Students never have enough time to do that. They will submit the paper directly. That is where your error occurred. Additionally, improving the paper? Really? Custompapers assigns the work only to their qualified writers. They do not use ESL writers at all. Room for improvement? Nope. You did a veiled maligning of a company that has one of the best reputations among the student clients. It doesn't work that way. You just got caught in your web of lies.

He eventually stopped. Probably ran out of money to pay for highlighted participation in the forum. The academic writing business isn't the same as it used to be. Though it is mostly recession proof, the pandemic still affected the liquidity of the students. They take the time to actually check the background of a company and consider the reputation of the writers, aside the cost per page, before hiring the company. So WB ran out of people to bully and try to run out of the forum. You might say, he ran himself out of business. Haha !

It would appear that the OP got his money back. It may have taken some time but, he got his money back. However, I believe that he struck a deal with them to not discuss what happened at ES so as to avoid other students using the same method to get their refunds. The other students who posted in this thread sound like they just participated here to keep the thread going, not to make it more informative.

There is actually some reality to the sarcasm. The owners of various writing companies have platinum and titanium credit cards, multiple homes, and luxury cars. All of which came majority, from the fining system they implement on their writers. The rest, comes from the never issued refunds of the students. They live the high life while their writers suffer from sleepless nights, penalties, and slave labor situations. I can only hope that the law eventually catches up to them.

That doesn't make the company sound special. It just proves that all the scam companies run on the same template. Lull the writers into a sense of complacency then pull the rug from under them. They won't know what hit them and, they can fire the writer in the process. Any complaints or inquiries about pay and some writers from writers.ph.DND have found their accounts actually cancelled, with more than a hundred dollars pending.

Also, ignore anyone who just keeps badmouthing other writers or companies. They tend to make the rounds of the threads here. Nothing more than trolls who are looking for a fight. They never intend to be of help to the newbies. Just pretend they don't exist and use your own judgement when considering a company to work for. They will most like test you before offering the job anyway so you will not have to worry about the reputation of the company until then. If you don't pass the test, they won't make an offer.

They were never running scared. They were never planning on covering their tracks. Yes, they might have been legally advised to remove their address from their websites. That proves nothing. All of these companies are still actively participating in the field of academic writing. The companies manage to keep the students coming for some reason. How they manage to stay beyond the reach of law is beyond our normal understanding. There must be a secret known only to them. It is that secret we have to learn about so that we can finally take these companies down.

The company has only 2 positive reviews on an independent site checker site. Both sound like they were paid to make the post since they were all too happy with the services delivered. That always makes me suspicious of these companies. All positive reviews cannot be relied upon. Then again, all negatives cannot be believed as well. A balanced review needs to be found in order to allow the student to see the full picture. The problem is, the guys in this thread decided to fight it out instead, changing the focus and not really being of any help to anyone. Sheesh!

The company was well known for plagiarizing content. They apparently did not have any screening system for their writers and took any writer from a third world country that wished to take on the job. They were happy to oblige since they paid less than $3 per page. They pocketed the money mostly for themselves and never refunded anything. It did take a bit of time for their reputation to make the rounds. When it did, the students stayed away in droves, leading to the eventual demise of the company and the bankruptcy of the original incorporators.

The simplest and most logical solution is for writers to simply not work for these companies. It is not difficult to set up a writing business anymore. The logistics are a lot simpler now that there are places such as UpWork and LinkedIn where independent writers can truly thrive in a market that directly hires the writer, based on skills, costing, and client preference. While essay writing companies will claim to consider the same things when assigning a writer, that is far from the truth. The reality is that they keep shopping the order around until they find a writer who can do the job. Now, writers can directly advertise their services via social media and independent work sites. The practice may not end the companies, but it will certainly give the students more options when it comes to the freelance writers market.

The writers simply have to opt to not work for these fake companies. Remember that there is no employment contract between the two parties. There is no contractual work leading up to regularization. There is only a per project agreement, with the writer in charge of his writing hours, charges, tax payments, and other things. All of which fall under the self employed category. So it is impossible to unionize the workers. They are not governed by a single labor code due to the international setting of the work. So the companies cannot be beaten. There will always be new writers available to take their place. They can't be beat. However, the writer does not need to stay with the company. The lack of contractual obligation allows him to leave, provided he has completed the work on his plate before he does so.

So I am to take it that the OP withdrew his refund claim due to the revision being better than expected? He did not mention that he had a pending revision request so his post can be considered misleading. Incomplete information means the company was unfairly judged in this thread. Next time, the OP must make sure that he gives us the complete information so that people will not jump to conclusions about potentially working with a writing company or writer.

The forum owners encourage both positive and negative posts. The idea is to help the students gain a better idea of certain writing services and the skills of the independent writers based on the experiences the students have with them professionally. There is nothing wrong with a user posting consecutive positive comments if that is the truth of that user's experience. I am sure he would post something negative once he comes across such an experience. The forum though, would benefit from more positive feedback on services and writers if it is truly to help the students looking for reliable writing services.

@Jacky Chen If you are the type of student who just needs a little help in getting started with your writing, then the essay databank will be the most useful to you. Those are previously written essays based on your specific topic. It can help you better understand what you have to write about and how. It also gives you useful leads in terms of academic sources. However, if you are an unskilled writer who needs help with everything, then maybe paying to get an original paper will be your best bet. Just make sure to choose a non-scam company or verified independent writer for this task.

I do not think the OP was trying to advertise the company or sell himself as a writer. Consider that he is complaining about not being paid, then think about any writer who would advertise a company based on non-payment. That doesn't make sense. Reflect on the grammar of the writer in the post and you will realize that there is no way he could advertise his services based on that writing sample. I think he is sincerely posting about his scam experience he had with the person and company services.

Each user has a different user experience with a company. Some students may have bad experiences, others may lean more towards the good. It is really difficult to judge a company based solely on comments on a single forum. Looking into the image of the company based on other forums, review sites, and ratings would be the better way to judge the potential of a company. The problem with ES is that there are only a handful of writers who claim to be authorities on the matter and, have a one track mind. Contradict them and you are in trouble. That is not how a democracy works, that is not how services work. The students should be given useful information not just "scam from wherever" and expect the student to accept the information as biblical truth.

@stu4 Well, that is one way of looking at it. He does tend to consider every person and company his competition which seems to keep him on the edge every single day, 24/7. It is always best to exercise free will in these cases. Look into the company yourself even after asking for comments here. Then, based on that collated information, you can make an educated decision regarding the services and if you will want to hire them based on what you know about them. Do not base anything or everything on simply the word of other people.

@LazyStudent are you thinking of jumping on the bandwagon and starting your own essay writing company? Why would you be interested in getting a US address of any sort? That is the only reason I can think of. By the way, a P.O. Box address does not instill confidence in any student or client, regardless of what services the company is engaged in. Either use a proper office address, with an actual office attached to it, or don't even get started. The address is the first scam indicator in any field of work / service.

The company is now out of business. It is likely that the name did not catch on with the students and, their work, even far less. The owner of the site, at that time, was definitely Vietnamese, but not an experienced capitalist. He could be described more as a kid whose folks had too much money to spare so they indulged his whims and caprices, which included setting up an academic essay company. He got tired of his "toy" and shut it down.

A search provided me with information that they have an "actual" research office at the address that they gave. Some student supposedly visited their "offices" where he formally placed his order. The problem, is that there is no information available to support this claim. Which makes me believe that this was paid for information. The negative reviews that complain about high costs and sloppy work, along with undelivered papers are more believable due to the supporting statements and evidences presented. There is more information that supports the negative than the positive for this company so, guess which one I believe more?

Actually, they can and they will. They are not the only company that has done this to their writers. I have it on good authority that several other firms engage in this practice. Normally, they cancel the account when they owe their writers about a thousand or more. When the writer protests the fines and other penalties that would have ended up with him receiving only 20% of the actual salary they owed, the account gets cancelled. They keep the full amount and do not feel the need to explain to the writer why these things happened. They always believe themselves to be above the law and unfortunately, it often appears that way.

@ErinMay this is certainly against company policy. It is also a way of opening yourself up to individual fraudsters at this forum. While a majority of the writers are legitimate, there are still a few that have questionable methods of doing business. It would have been better if your sourced your writer through the promoted methods at this forum. There is a reason open sourcing of writers are not allowed here. The forum owners do not want to be blamed and told that they sanctioned the deal because they met the writer through the forum. There are other controlled methods that will assure students of getting a good writer at this forum. Just check out the banner above, that is the surest way to get your reliable writer through this forum, without involving the forum owners.

Yes. This is true. I know of several UK based companies that slowly replaced their ENL writers with ESL writers from the third world due to their need to show the business partners an investors a profit. The ENL writers were costing the company too much money and their demands for fair labor treatment were taking a toll on the company profits. The solution? Change the staff, show a profit. Criminal? Probably? Good business sense? Perhaps, Beneficial to the students? Definitely NOT !

Last I heard, the domain name is available for takers. Which means the company went out of business or, decided to change its url due to the strong negative image of the company. Students have nothing nice to say about the company, their writers consider them thieves, and they have problems dealing with their bills as well. The company ran itself into the ground and now, hopes to just get back some of their investment once the total business is sold.